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Kirchner tipped to start


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks, The Rugby Championship on 13 Aug 2012 at 09:45
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Expect Zane Kirchner to once again be named at fullback ahead of Pat Lambie when the Bok side to face Argentina on Saturday is named.

Heyneke Meyer was forced to use three different men in the number 15 jersey when his side took on England earlier in the year and that merry-go-round looks set to continue, with Kirchner likely to be asked to reprise the role he played in the opening test, before injury saw him replaced by Sharks man Lambie for the second.

Gio Aplon, who played fullback in the third-test draw in Port Elizabth, has been left out of the squad for the Rugby Championship.

Lwazi Mvovo looks set to start at wing in place of the injured JP Pietersen, with Bryan Habana the only member of the back three set to remain from the unit that last played against Englans. The Bok team to face Argentina will be named on Wednesday.



33 Comments

  • Fair enough…..Lambie has not been at his best. I don’t know if it’s the injury or being messed around but Lambie had a bit of a mare in the S15 final.

  • Comment 1, posted at 13.08.12 10:05:00 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 1) : After being out of action and getting a few minutes of game time under his belt and reinjuring himself he wasn’t exactly going to set the world alight. He was put in an unfair position and expected to work miracles.

  • Comment 2, posted at 13.08.12 10:14:53 by lostfish Reply
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  • Good morning, Lambie will hopefully be back to firing on all cylinders soon…go Lambie, go Kirchner…and GO BOKKE!

  • Comment 3, posted at 13.08.12 10:15:02 by Ladyshark Reply

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  • I dont mind Kirchner being named ahead of Lambie but I would rather have Lambie starting at 10. Im really worried about Morne Steyns mental make up at the moment.

  • Comment 4, posted at 13.08.12 10:17:12 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 4) : I am not worried about Morne, the sooner he is out of the Bok team the better.

  • Comment 5, posted at 13.08.12 10:24:00 by lostfish Reply
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  • How I wish it was Ludik their instead of Kirchner. He at least adds a little attacking impetus from the back.

  • Comment 6, posted at 13.08.12 10:32:41 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 5) : But that is just it…he is still there and in all honesty he could not have been any worse than he has been this year (progressively getting worse as the year has gone on). Im not confdident that change will happen.

  • Comment 7, posted at 13.08.12 10:42:02 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 2) :

    I agree with everything you’ve said but would you have started him ahead of Krusty?

  • Comment 8, posted at 13.08.12 10:42:43 by Pokkel Reply
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  • go zane, all three sharks fullbacks this season have been mediocre at some point, only ludik lately has shown any form…he must sustain the form to even be in bok reckoning.

  • Comment 9, posted at 13.08.12 10:59:58 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 9) : But why reward Kirchner’s consistent mediocrity in the Springbok jersey at the expense of another player’s present good form?

    If it’s about experience then surely call up Aplon instead.

  • Comment 10, posted at 13.08.12 11:20:39 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 10) : no, to meyer it is about EXECUTION above anything else. i’ve been carefully listening to the man and it is there in EVERY interview, whether about a backline player or forward…meyer wants players who are an extension of his thoughts on the field and NOT individuals..

    on boots n all last thursday he said it plain out “EXECUTION OVER INNOVATION” any day for him. if he was coaching the sharks, they’d still be doing what they were doing beginning of the season but HARDER!

  • Comment 11, posted at 13.08.12 11:35:06 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Ladyshark (Comment 3) : thanks for the support Phill….. :-)

  • Comment 12, posted at 13.08.12 12:09:13 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 11) :

    Sad that. :roll:

  • Comment 13, posted at 13.08.12 12:10:46 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 11) : Thanks, missed that one. Let’s hope for the Springboks’ sake it pays off then.

  • Comment 14, posted at 13.08.12 12:15:31 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Nice one HM!! How are those blue tinted goggles working out for you?

    Probably trying to make the Kiwis and the Aussies underestimate us by putting the WORST SA fullback in the Bok team.

  • Comment 15, posted at 13.08.12 12:28:31 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 14) : @Pokkel (Comment 13) : owen asked him if has been working on a plan b or even c for the boks and meyer replied that for him it is execution over innovation and that he has to work with the players to improve execution which is why in his mind what is wrong with morne is fixable. in his eyes everything that didn’t go well for the boks was down to execution at different points in the series – breakdown in the 1st test, tackling in the 2nd and general intensity @ collisions & tactical kicking in the 3rd – fix those and the boks win according to meyer.

    he said, he believes we have to FORCE our game plan on the opposition and not vary because they show resistance at first.

  • Comment 16, posted at 13.08.12 12:31:55 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 16) :

    and today it was reported on other sites that Ricardo Loubscher said that they are working on plan B…..

    Conflicting opinions coming from the Bok camp. Not a good start by Meyer. :???:

  • Comment 17, posted at 13.08.12 12:48:41 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 11) : execution over innovation – so he basically wants a team of brain dead zombies void of any thought, able to do what HM commands and nothing else.

    When you don’t want people to think for themselves and only do what you command them to do, it tells me you’re a control fanatic with a fare few self esteem issues.

    Seems we’ve dropped the “clown” for the dictator :roll:

  • Comment 18, posted at 13.08.12 12:49:04 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 16) : Implying that he expects Hougie to possess the same sort of skillset Fourie du Preez has. Poor guy is still trying to figure out how to box kick!

  • Comment 19, posted at 13.08.12 12:50:44 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 17) : Or they’re all busy brushing up on the Sun Tzu’s Art of War. :mrgreen:

    “Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent’s fate.”

  • Comment 20, posted at 13.08.12 12:55:46 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 18) :

    A dictator who has won numerous Currie Cup and Super Rugby titles!! :twisted:

  • Comment 21, posted at 13.08.12 13:15:09 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 21) : Nobody ever said that Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Mussolini never won their fair share of battles….but all of them were intimidated by individuals able to think and decide for themselves. ;-)

    Tells us a lot about the character of that blue team up north :roll:

  • Comment 22, posted at 13.08.12 13:44:03 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Persoanlly I would have prefered Gio but HM has stated pretty emphatically that he rates physicality over agility. Well done to Mvovo though, he should have been in the team long ago.

  • Comment 23, posted at 13.08.12 14:12:28 by Leviathan Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 17) : NO, “plan B” with a proviso “if it RAINS” not if the opposition is matching us mano a mano or fielding our kicks.

  • Comment 24, posted at 13.08.12 14:13:14 by Megatron Reply

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  • That’s what you get for not selecting Ludik, the form full-back at the moment. Now we are stuck with Krusty and Lambie. An overrated player and a fly-half playing out of position.

  • Comment 25, posted at 13.08.12 17:23:21 by TRF_Ezequiel Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 24) : Brilliant way to go Meyer. So if the opposition comes up with an effective and innovative counter to our game plan, the problem is execution so the players must just try harder to implement the original game plan, even if the opposition is countering and scoring at will. Is this something you agree with or are you just reporting what you heard Meyer say?

    If this is indeed the case, the players will be sick of pounding their heads against the wall implementing an ineffective game plan that is easily countered by the opposition. Honestly I should not expect much more from Meyer or his sidekick Rassie, both are dictators of the first degree.

  • Comment 26, posted at 13.08.12 17:43:25 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 26) : I think the New Zealanders are extremely relieved we don’t have decent coaches in SA… or we’d potentially kick their asses everytime. :shock:

  • Comment 27, posted at 13.08.12 20:38:35 by CS Reply

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  • We have the INNOVATION but don’t allow them to EXECUTE !!!

  • Comment 28, posted at 13.08.12 20:39:20 by CS Reply

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  • @CS (Comment 28) : I’m so glad we have the CC to get our rugby fix….’cause Springbok rugby’s irritating effect has just continued.

    Last decent coach we had was Mallet, at least Springbok rugby was excited back then. We really don’t have any coaches in SA that inspire any confidence for our future. :???:

  • Comment 29, posted at 13.08.12 21:01:20 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @CS (Comment 27) : To place 100% of your faith in execution is a very bad mistake and that statement is not only limited to Rugby. I have written on here before about the differences between strategy and tactics. What Meyer is saying is throw tactics out the window, come up with an effective (hopefully) strategy and keep executing it whether it works or not. As with any sport or even business, a person must be able to tactically change their course of action when they realize the strategy is not working as expected.

    Now personally I did not hear Meyer say this, but considering his history as a coach, it would not surprise me one bit if he said exactly that.

  • Comment 30, posted at 13.08.12 22:46:21 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 26) : lol…just reporting :-)

    what is clear is that heyneke is either a pedantic perfectionist – NOT dicktactor – or an astute analysts who understands that the margins in Test rugby are miniscule and that with the little time he has to actually ‘coach’ he wont complicate his players’ lives with elaborate gameplans.

  • Comment 31, posted at 14.08.12 02:35:54 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 31) : Very valid point you make.

  • Comment 32, posted at 14.08.12 10:59:42 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 32) : the mind is quite lucid at 2 in the morning :lol:

  • Comment 33, posted at 14.08.12 12:45:40 by Megatron Reply

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