Richard Ferguson

A coach worthy of his position


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :All Blacks, Original Content, Springboks, The Rugby Championship on 20 Aug 2012 at 09:42
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The Springboks won Heyneke Meyer his third game in four starts, with the other being the draw in the dead rubber third test against England. A positive start for a new coach, who is heading into the tougher part of the Rugby Championship still unbeaten.

Now I know that a few wins against England and then a scrappy performance against Argentina is nothing to write home about, but I think Heyneke Meyer is doing a pretty good job, and calls of making the Springbok jersey cheap, as well as having blue-tinted shades are unsubstantiated.

For all his Bulls bias, he selected a Springbok forward pack without a Bulls player in it, this for the first time in ten years. He could easily have shifted Willem Alberts to eight to make way for Jacques Potgieter to start, but he stuck to his guns and rewarded the form player, who has already played for the Boks, in Keegan Daniel.

In fact, his selections last week made me realise, thanks to an insightful chat with Rob, that Heyneke Meyer is doing everything BUT make the Springbok jersey cheap. Until last week’s positional switch of Bryan Habana to the other wing, Meyer has not once shifted a player into another position, something Bok coaches of the past did regularly.

Here’s an example, when Frans Steyn missed the third English test, he did not put Jean de Villiers in the 12 jersey and shuffle the backline along, he simply replaced the player with another, albeit Wynand Olivier played. But in this case, which centre in South Africa deserved to be at 12? And he played a Springbok, in the process not giving away another Springbok cap.

As for the Bulls bias he supposedly has, I think we can all agree that his teams reflect for the most part, the players best suited to their positions. Where his outlook differs slightly from other coaches, is that he puts the trust in the player to find form again, and not to simply drop a player for another player based purely on form.

Jacques Potgieter, since pulling on the Bok jersey for the first time, has done nothing to warrant him being dropped for the in-form Siya Kolisi. Yes, Kolisi is playing brilliant rugby, and is unlucky to have to compete with Marcel Coetzee, but a player worthy of the Bok jersey will go back to his union, play the rugby we all know he can play, and wait for his chance. The point here is that the coach believes in coaching a player into the right form, and not depending on the union’s coaches to get them into form by dropping them.

You won’t see Steve Hansen drop Dan Carter because Aaron Cruden is in the form of his life, so why should any of the current Springboks be dropped, after playing winning rugby and not doing anything substantially wrong? This argument is valid even if you look at Zane Kirchner. For those that know me, I am not a Zane fan, but his selection in the team is justified, if one understands the coach’s thinking.

The player played one game against England, where he was solid until he got injured. He is now fit again, so he deserves to be in the fullback jersey until such time that he no longer plays at the required standard. No other fullback in country can really put their hand up and say that he deserves the 15 jersey more, not even Pat Lambie, who has not been the same player since his injury.

So next time, before cursing Meyer for another cheap selection, or Bulls biased call, think about the bigger picture. For once, the Boks have a coach worthy of his position. Rugby is about more than just putting 15 players on the park, and I personally have high hopes for this team to do well in the Rugby Championship this year.



66 Comments

  • Good article Richard

  • Comment 1, posted at 20.08.12 09:51:45 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Let’s just hope he has a solid plan B in place for when kick and pray fails to work.

  • Comment 2, posted at 20.08.12 09:56:28 by PTAShark Reply
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  • All valid points, but there is nothing new or different in how the Boks are playing under HM than how they were playing under PDV.

  • Comment 3, posted at 20.08.12 10:02:31 by Loosehead Reply
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  • I disagree to a certain degree,I think he his bulls biased if what you saying is true than dejong should have been on the bench or aplon because they are already boks and have proved they worth even before HM was coach yet he picked jj no offense to jj but he hasn’t done enough in my opinion to warrant a cap no more than kolisi anyway so the only conclusion is that playing for the bulls is what swayed things in jj’s favour and than you have vermaak who has played patches of rugby,yes he was not in the 22 but is stil in the squad I think he tries to make it seem like his not biased but so far that is all I’m seeing there are other arguments when it comes to poitgueta(spelling) and van de merver(spelling) but you catch my drift

  • Comment 4, posted at 20.08.12 10:11:26 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 4) :

    JJ is probable the only player available to the Boks that can cover both wing and centre, as de Jongh does not have the same pace. Obviously Meyer has knowledge about Bulls players, more so than say the non-Boks at WP and the Sharks etc, but he didn’t simply put him in a Bok jersey, it was forced through injury (Habana going down)

    As for Potgieter and van der Merwe, again, both players have done nothing to warrant them being dropped, whilst they are still performing the job that the coach requires from them.

  • Comment 5, posted at 20.08.12 10:16:30 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Nice on Rich. :smile: It’s still early to judge HM to this extent. He is picking most of the guys which is playing good rugby now. Every coach will pick dead wood now and again.

  • Comment 6, posted at 20.08.12 10:26:00 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 5) : yes it was forced on him threw injury but what I’m saying is that aplon is already a bok so why not him? Why risk it with a debut? Lambie was on the bench he can also cover centre but he picked jj for reasons I can only see as because his a bull,and how much can he actually know about jj I mean the guy joined the bulls last year? As for the other 2 they haven’t done anything to warrant a drop but gosh they also haven’t. Shown they belong there why must we watch mediocre players when we have new exciting prospects like kolisi

  • Comment 7, posted at 20.08.12 10:34:39 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 7) :

    As I said in my previous post, of all the players you mention, JJ is the only one able to cover centre and wing.. Aplon is no centre, Lambie is no wing..

    I don’t think any player in the Bok jersey so far this season has been mediocre?? PLease elaborate on where exactly any player was of such a standard that it required him to return to his union?

  • Comment 8, posted at 20.08.12 10:36:38 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Hmmm…

  • Comment 9, posted at 20.08.12 10:40:01 by Morné Reply
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  • Nice article makes me rethink how i feel, but what would help is HM speaking through the media more as to what he is trying to do because so far it does look like bull rugby.

  • Comment 10, posted at 20.08.12 10:40:37 by Dunx Reply

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  • I agree with you Rich, I highly doubt whether any coach would pick a player purely because he plays for a certain union. He would pick the players that he believes he’ll have the best chance of winning with, because at the end of the day that’s all that matters. In HM’s case, this might mean that he picks more Bulls players than say, Cheetahs or Stormers, because the way that union and its players play is more suited to the way he wants the Boks to play and so he believes they’ll be better in his team, but not just because they are Bulls or Sharks.

    He needs to pick the players that he can best work with, whether we agree with that gameplan is another story, but why should he change the way he coaches. That’s why he was picked as the coach in the first place wasn’t it? He hasn’t done anything unexpected yet.

    I don’t think the Boks will do well against Australia and specifically New Zeeland if they don’t drastically improve though.

  • Comment 11, posted at 20.08.12 10:44:55 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Dunx (Comment 10) : It looks like Bull rugby, because that’s what it is. Did you expect anything else? That’s the way HM has always coached, why would he change that now. It’s worked for him throughout his coaching career and it is probably the reason why he got the job in the first place. Why would you appoint a coach that coaches Bulls rugby and expect him to coach the team to play … Reds or … flair rugby?

  • Comment 12, posted at 20.08.12 10:48:54 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 9) :

    Your thoughts Morne?

    I’d love to hear what you think..

  • Comment 13, posted at 20.08.12 10:50:41 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @ Letgo (Comment 12) True but you can’t blame me for wanting more from the boks, but with Morne at flyhalf why do we have a backline we should put in another 15 loosies whom have played sevens.

  • Comment 14, posted at 20.08.12 10:53:48 by Dunx Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 8) : maybe midocre was to nice morne steyn for example was super poor against england yet he stil got picked! If it was for example aplon he would have been sent back to wp quicker than you can say blou bulle and in any case he still got droped yes he didn’t have the best game when he got to start as fullback but morne was just as poor but he got given chance after chance some might say yes with good reason because he performed Saturday but shouldn’t evryone get that chance than includin aplon? No one person is bigger than the team aplon is not a flyhalf but that doesn’t mean his useless and I’m sorry dude but potg nd van de merwer have been midiocre in my opinion I may not be a rugby head as most of you here but even I saw that and see how bull players get preference and special treatment,daniel was average Saturday I bet his gonna get dropped

  • Comment 15, posted at 20.08.12 10:54:13 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 15) :

    Meyer coached Morne Steyn back into the player he was on Saturday, that was clear for all to be seen..

    And just for interest sake, which other flyhalf in South Africa really deserved to wear the Bok jersey? Grant is not availabe? Lambie is not fit? Johan Goosen is still on the sidelines? Jantjes is not that great either?

    Your Aplon argument carries merit, but after been given a shot when Kirchner was injured, he didn’t do anything to warrant a place in the squad again.. Yes he can count himself unlucky, but he was always just a replacement, not a starter..

  • Comment 16, posted at 20.08.12 11:00:52 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 13) :

    I’ve personally said Meyer should only really be judged by next year’s Rugby Championship. Not only have we lost 4 or 5 crucial cogs within the Bok team from 2012, the man has had a total of 1 week with the players in 4 tests outside the week leading up to the match.

    My early observations of his approach so far leaves me concerned in one area specifically though;

    His seeming preference to lean towards the known… (and trusted).

    Not totally unjustified as I mentioned the time to his disposal above, but I do believe the Boks need to build a brand around themselves which divorces the one created in 2004, through to 2011.

    I believe Meyer is bringing a very similar approach to what Jake did, and although it won us some titles no-one every believed we played to our ability as a nation.

    I am hoping Heyneke in time, creates a brand around the Boks similar to what he did with the Bulls (but not the same brand) and I have faith that he will, if given the time, but I am not sure he will be…

    There is only one selection I have faulted him on since the England series, the rest, as you said, well justified.

  • Comment 17, posted at 20.08.12 11:04:15 by Morné Reply
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  • I think it’s way too early to pass judgement on HM at this point in time. A lot of his first choice players are injured and he hasn’t spent a lot of time with the team yet.

    I do question some of his selections at times (really would have preferred Aplon or Ludik at 15 and Kolisi instead of Potgieter) but heck, that’s just one of the many guilty pleasures of being a rugby fan.

  • Comment 18, posted at 20.08.12 11:09:35 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 17) :

    Cogs were lost in 2011…

  • Comment 19, posted at 20.08.12 11:10:10 by Morné Reply
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  • @Dunx (Comment 14) : No, just don’t expect more. :smile:

  • Comment 20, posted at 20.08.12 11:13:38 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 16) : lambie is fit maybe just alil out of form but my point is so was morne why must he continue to get special treatment,if what you say is true about meyer coaching morne to his best why doesn’t he do it with evryone that’s out of form than? He is evryone’s coach not just morne but evryone gets droped except for morne,aplon was a replacement not a starter sure but so is potg and van de mrwer but low and behold they make the damn bench or atleast tour this is just ridiculous,we can go on and on about this but my opinion is that he is biased you see it differently and only time will really tell but I already have a bad taste in my mouth about this

  • Comment 21, posted at 20.08.12 11:17:41 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 21) :

    Where has everyone been dropped?

    You are missing the point dude!

    The point here is, nobody has been dropped. Injury has forced other players to be selected, Aplon was one of these players. Now that the original player has returned from injury, he gets to start again..

    This means that no player has been dropped?

    How would you have liked it if Aplon was the first choice, he then got injured to be replaced by Joe Soap, and now Joe Soap plays as the first choice, even though Aplon is fit again?

  • Comment 22, posted at 20.08.12 11:23:35 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 5) : “Until last week’s positional switch of Bryan Habana to the other wing, Meyer has not once shifted a player into another position, something Bok coaches of the past did regularly.”

    how many times had jean de villiers played 13 BEFORE the english series?

  • Comment 23, posted at 20.08.12 11:41:24 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 23) : :shock: You survived the hangover?

    How’s KingsWorld.co.za coming along? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 24, posted at 20.08.12 11:45:21 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 22) : well DUDE! Since I’m missing the point let’s talk all the better fullbacks than zane the guy shouldn’t even be on the bench but his starting,ludik nd joe are better and so is lambie the guy should be 4th in line but his a bull so he starts,you are the one missing the point and that is meyer is biased no matter what you say and no matter how you wanna twist it

  • Comment 25, posted at 20.08.12 11:46:42 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 23) :

    He played him there, and has not shifted him since.. That was my point..

  • Comment 26, posted at 20.08.12 11:53:06 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 26) : you have a lot of points today

  • Comment 27, posted at 20.08.12 11:59:21 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 25) :

    No dude, Joe P is overrated.

  • Comment 28, posted at 20.08.12 12:01:37 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 28) : still better than zane

  • Comment 29, posted at 20.08.12 12:21:16 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 29) :

    Not so sure.

    I’ve been one of Zane’s biggest critics (I think), but given our lack of quality/depth at fullback, I’m coming to terms with his selection.

    He’s definitely a better fullback then Joe Pietersen, who sparks jack-all from the back & is far more vulnerable to the high ball.

  • Comment 30, posted at 20.08.12 12:26:13 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 26) : so shifting hougaard from scrumhalf to wing and pulling out lwazi is NOT playing a player out of position? right :cool:

  • Comment 31, posted at 20.08.12 12:29:57 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 31) :

    You know what.. I give up..

  • Comment 32, posted at 20.08.12 12:31:46 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Zane is not the best but he’s not that bad either. Give HM this year at least to get a great team together. Rome wasnt build over a weekend.

  • Comment 33, posted at 20.08.12 12:36:02 by JarsonX Reply
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  • You know we are in one fortunate position, our team is winnning, regardless of tries or points, a win is a win. And here we are discussing how we think he should improve. I would love to have other players in instead of bulls, even play differently but above everything i want the Bokke to win.

  • Comment 34, posted at 20.08.12 12:56:37 by Dunx Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 8) : Hey Richard

    Just a side note. Jean de Villiers cover wind and centre.

  • Comment 35, posted at 20.08.12 13:04:51 by Ben Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 32) : yeah give up mate, because shifting a player does not only refer to changing the STARTING line up as you clearly want us to believe.

  • Comment 36, posted at 20.08.12 13:05:07 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Dunx (Comment 34) : against argentina, we are supposed to win even if richard ferguson is the coach :lol:

  • Comment 37, posted at 20.08.12 13:07:25 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 35) : Wing and centre I mean.

  • Comment 38, posted at 20.08.12 13:11:39 by Ben Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 31) :

    Hougaard played left wing for a full season in SR.

    Some would even say he is a better winger than he is a scrum half.

  • Comment 39, posted at 20.08.12 13:15:00 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 39) :

    He’s best off the bench.

  • Comment 40, posted at 20.08.12 13:26:17 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 37) LOl that was a good chuckle there. Yeah we are meant too but it doesnt mean that the Pumas are gonna lie down and give it to us either. Hopefully we dont kill them before the Aus & Kiwis tackle them.

  • Comment 41, posted at 20.08.12 13:37:48 by Dunx Reply

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  • Great article. 2 things:

    1 – I wish people would stop complaining about the boks playing “bulls” rugby, Heineke Meyer made the Bulls and they have played a lot differently under Frans Ludeke. Therefore it is not “bulls” rugby the boks are playing but HM rugby, which by the way appears to be winning rugby.

    2 – I think HM has proved he definitely does NOT have a bulls biase by picking on overwhelming number of sharks players.

  • Comment 42, posted at 20.08.12 13:40:24 by Orelando_G Reply

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  • On Siya Kolisi…

    He needs to model his game on that of Marcell Coetzee. Become a bit more active on the defensive side of the ball, and focus on playing openside.

    He’s too short to be playing elsewhere.

  • Comment 43, posted at 20.08.12 13:51:29 by hendrikp Reply

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  • Meyer needs to add to his game plan. It seemed to me that we spent considerable amount of time in the opposition 22 and couldn’t come away with points for that BP.

  • Comment 44, posted at 20.08.12 13:53:42 by Talent Reply
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  • @Orelando_G (Comment 42) : that’s like saying I have a black friend so I’m not racist (calm down evryone just an example) just because he has picked a lot of sharks players doesn’t mean his not biased because there bulls players he clearly favours regardles who is on form and who might be a better option that’s why I say he is biased he is way more patient with the bulle mense than the other players,just my opinion I’m willing to accept maybe I’m wrong as other people have stated and disagreed but that’s just the vibe I’m getting from HM,but we winning so it doesn’t really matter(for now)

  • Comment 45, posted at 20.08.12 13:59:15 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 45) : No it’s more like saying I prefer strawberries to apples therefore I will add more strawberries to my fruit salad. If I like apples as much as everyone says I do I would probably have more of them even though they have a boring taste.

    My point is, he has left out a lot of bulls players that played very well in Superugby. I agree he favours certain players but I don’t think it is because they are from the Bulls. Every coach has his favourites and all good coaches take chances with players in which they see potential.

  • Comment 46, posted at 20.08.12 14:06:44 by Orelando_G Reply

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  • @Orelando_G (Comment 46) :

    Can’t think of any Bulls that played well that he left out :mrgreen:

  • Comment 47, posted at 20.08.12 14:12:41 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 39) : “He could easily have shifted Willem Alberts to eight to make way for Jacques Potgieter to start, but he stuck to his guns and rewarded the form player, who has already played for the Boks, in Keegan Daniel”

    alberts, as we’ve heard here ad nauseum also played 8 for the lions – as robdylan would say “to great success”.

    can you, rich ferg or heyneke meyer CLAIM that hougaard has been the FORM player at wing this season? :grin:

  • Comment 48, posted at 20.08.12 14:16:47 by Megatron Reply

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  • Generally though, there does seem to be method here. I’ll be interested to see when Meyer does have to drop one of the old stalwarts. You have to be able to do that. But I think he’s doing a great job. There isn’t a coach alive who doesn’t have critics. I must say I wonder when he’s going to blow a gasket. Never seen a rugby coach get so emotional.

  • Comment 49, posted at 20.08.12 14:24:19 by MikeSebMatt Reply

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  • @MikeSebMatt (Comment 49) : And he’s got some serious cotton mouth going on….drink bietjie water meneer die coach.

  • Comment 50, posted at 20.08.12 14:29:31 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @MikeSebMatt (Comment 49) : i was sitting about 10 metres away from the coaching box and he was BARKING orders like a mad man on that walkie talkie…i can’t wait for the all blacks game @ soccer city! :lol:

  • Comment 51, posted at 20.08.12 14:37:17 by Megatron Reply

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  • Funny thing. Meyer is playing mostly the same players and style Jake started in 2004, but unlike PdV he isn’t getting flack for it or apparently letting senior players run the show.

    I’m not saying he hasn’t done ok so far, but I do withhold judgement until we play Oz or the AB’s. The current gameplan and selections have not shown any real imagination or courage. And the argument presented as to why he doesn’t have a Bulls bias is weak. As far as I am concerned, the jury is still out, but I hope to be convinced.

  • Comment 52, posted at 20.08.12 16:06:43 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 23) :

    JdV is an exception.

    HM needed a captain from WP to calm the Cape hysteria and there was an opening at 13.

    I suspect that by this time next year when Burger is healthy and a real 13 has emerged that JdV would be no more.

  • Comment 53, posted at 20.08.12 16:56:22 by fyndraai Reply

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  • I know I’ve waded in here rather late and I don’t comment all that much, but I think the point of the debate here is not what has Potgieter done wrong to be dropped from the Bok Squad – and I would also argue that he hasn’t really done anything right either but I digress – but what did he do to get selected in the first place? Not alot really. He made the least running metres out of any loose forward from the stats I saw. Of course its bias, but people should not get so defensive for being accused of bias! After all, the definition according to Wikipedia “Bias is an inclination to present or hold a partial perspective at the expense of (possibly equally valid) alternatives”
    Its basically Meyer sticking to what he knows, at this stage.
    His loyalty to his ‘warriors’ is admirable. But, what does it actually take to get dropped? Steyn has been poor the whole season and he slots his goals in one test, and now he is back. Give me a break! He is no better at getting a backline away now than he was at 2011, and even then he was selected just for his goalkicking.
    The same with Kirchner.
    The way I see it some Bulls players whose claim to the Bok jersey was 50/50 at best before the Eng series, are being allowed time to play themselves into the jersey and own it, at the expense of more talented footballers.

  • Comment 54, posted at 20.08.12 16:59:18 by neilster Reply

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  • @fyndraai (Comment 53) : So Rich Ferg’s assertion is null and void then :D

  • Comment 55, posted at 20.08.12 17:14:33 by Megatron Reply

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  • I think Daniel actually did very well, he was at a lot of rucks as far as I can remember and tried his best to do what the wasn’t really done by the other forwards a lot, and that is trying to protect the ball.

  • Comment 56, posted at 20.08.12 17:27:27 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @neilster (Comment 54) :
    Nicely put. So far, I tend to agree.

  • Comment 57, posted at 20.08.12 18:15:24 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Neilster (Comment 54) I agree fully nicely put.

  • Comment 58, posted at 20.08.12 18:46:14 by Dunx Reply

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  • @neilster (Comment 54) : Exactly

  • Comment 59, posted at 20.08.12 20:23:52 by Talent Reply
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  • @neilster (Comment 54) : spot on! rich ferg here wants to be meyer’s cheerleader he can go right ahead! watch when the sharks players get DROPPED like brussow – who apparently CANNOT be coached to play meyer’s game like off-form morne.

    Potgieter is a EP boy, played for the Kings up until September last year now all of a sudden he is a regular BOK?!!! as they say in Xhosa: tell that to the hunchbacks!

  • Comment 60, posted at 20.08.12 23:45:37 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 60) : Lost in translation. Tell me more about these hunchbacks.

  • Comment 61, posted at 20.08.12 23:53:29 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 60) : Thats a very good point wrt Brussouw. He must go away and work on his game in the currie cup – injured at the moment so mute point – as he is leaking too many penalties, whereas others as you say get to work on their game in national colours…
    I’ll tell you one thing, if your attacking game is sterile, nothing improves it quite like a few turnovers against the tide!

  • Comment 62, posted at 21.08.12 07:31:12 by neilster Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 61) : i don’t know the origins of the saying but it is based on someone who apparently told hunchbacks to carry heavy loads up a mountain for him promising them that it would unwind their spine and they believed it – clearly telling porkers :D

    so when someone is trying to convince you of something you can clearly see is bogus then you say “uyakubuxelela izifombo obo bubhanxa” >>>> tell that nonsense to the hunchbacks.

  • Comment 63, posted at 21.08.12 09:34:09 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 63) : That’s awesome! :smile:

  • Comment 64, posted at 21.08.12 09:52:11 by Letgo Reply
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  • @neilster (Comment 62) : speaking of “sterile” attacking game, i was mortified to find out while reading gavin rich’s column from last week that our bok FORWARDS coh johan van graan DOUBLES as our ATTACK coach :shock:

    who is the sharks attack coach?

  • Comment 65, posted at 21.08.12 11:06:48 by Megatron Reply

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  • STOP KIDDING YOURSELF.

    Hougaard is not the best #9. (great wing In my opinion)
    Morne is not the best #10 – no matter what HM and other’s fetish is with kicking.
    I can believe Im saying this but Kirchner has done well recently..would still pick the FORM #15 in Ludik but hey.

    Potgieter has nothing going for him apart from size – but that seems to be sufficient for a Bok forward. I rate Dewald Potgieter much higher than him…

    Untile we have a 9/10 that have a complete skill set and ARE ALLOWED TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES…we will never dominate world rugby…AS WE ALWAYS SHOULD

  • Comment 66, posted at 22.08.12 07:45:41 by pienaar111 Reply

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