Richard Ferguson

Rugby Championship – Argentina vs South Africa


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks, The Rugby Championship on 25 Aug 2012 at 20:00
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Argentina hosts their first Rugby Championship match, taking on South Africa in Mendoza. Argentina lost their first match against South Africa and will hope to improve on their showing in Cape Town and be slightly more competitive before taking on the likes of Australia and New Zealand.

The Argentinian team has been forced into a few backline changes, with Martin Rodriquez taking over the fullback jersey from Lucas Amorosino, and Juan Martin Hernandez being ruled out through injury giving way for Nicolas Sanchez at flyhalf.

South Africa were also forced to make a few changes, injury ruling out Bismarck du Plessis, opening the door for Adriaan Strauss to take over at hooker. Keegan Daniel gets dropped to the bench in favour of a bigger and bulkier loose trio, Jacques Potgieter coming into the starting team. The backline is unchanged.

This should be a closer encounter than the opening game in Cape Town, but the South Africans should still be too strong for Argentina, even away from home.

Argentina (revised): 15Martín Rodríguez, 14 Gonzalo Camacho, 13 Marcelo Bosch, 12 Santiago Fernández,11 Horacio Agulla, 10 Nicolás Sánchez, 9 Nicolás Vergallo, 8 Juan MartínFernández Lobbe (c), 7 Álvaro Galindo, 6 Julio Farías Cabello, 5 PatricioAlbacete, 4 Manuel Carizza, 3 Juan Figallo, 2 Eusebio Guiñazú, 1 RodrigoRoncero.

Replacements:16 BrunoPostiglioni, 17 Marcos Ayerza, 18 Leonardo Senatore, 19 Tomás Leonardi, 20Martín Landajo, 21 Lucas González Amorosino, 22 Juan Imhoff.

South Africa: 15 ZaneKirchner, 14 Bryan Habana, 13 Jean de Villiers (c), 12 Frans Steyn, 11 LwaziMvovo, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Francois Hougaard, 8 Willem Alberts, 7 Jacques Potgieter,6 Marcell Coetzee, 5 Andries Bekker, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2Adriaan Strauss, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.

Replacements: 16 TiaanLiebenberg, 17 Pat Cilliers, 18 Flip van der Merwe, 19 Keegan Daniel, 20 RuanPienaar, 21 Pat Lambie, 22 JJ Engelbrecht.



91 Comments

  • The bateries of the technologies not lasting…..
    On my 3rd device now…
    Don’t tell the wife, its hers

  • Comment 1, posted at 25.08.12 21:05:02 by Franshark Reply
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  • Hope to see another good game, think both the last 2games was good….

  • Comment 2, posted at 25.08.12 21:06:07 by Franshark Reply
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  • I like this side better than last weeks (obviously Bizzy would be a better choice) but Strauss was great last week…

    However would have started with JJ ahead of Mvovo….

  • Comment 3, posted at 25.08.12 21:08:52 by Hmmm Reply

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  • …Geez that was close … I though Ras Dumisani was singing our national anthem again

  • Comment 4, posted at 25.08.12 21:11:52 by byron Reply

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  • Sound not so lekka

  • Comment 5, posted at 25.08.12 21:16:00 by Franshark Reply
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  • Both sides with missed pk

  • Comment 6, posted at 25.08.12 21:19:54 by Franshark Reply
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  • Eish my electricity just went off….

  • Comment 7, posted at 25.08.12 21:20:23 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Arg 3 – 0 SA
    12min

  • Comment 8, posted at 25.08.12 21:26:11 by Franshark Reply
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  • Argentina being allowed to fall over the ball

  • Comment 9, posted at 25.08.12 21:28:28 by byron Reply

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  • Go Argentina! :twisted:

  • Comment 10, posted at 25.08.12 21:31:07 by Ben Reply

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  • Fernández in under the posts, must say bekker is having a shocker so far….

  • Comment 11, posted at 25.08.12 21:31:21 by Franshark Reply
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  • Wow. First bekker then etzebeth. Disgraceful tackling

  • Comment 12, posted at 25.08.12 21:32:07 by jako Reply
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  • Arg 10 – 0 SA 18min

  • Comment 13, posted at 25.08.12 21:32:17 by Franshark Reply
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  • If robbie deans is out of his depth, Heyneke is on the wrong planet. Missing divvy

  • Comment 14, posted at 25.08.12 21:34:52 by jako Reply
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  • Time to replace bekker

  • Comment 15, posted at 25.08.12 21:37:24 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Franshark (Comment 15) : Wow, he truely has been appalling hasnt he.

  • Comment 16, posted at 25.08.12 21:38:48 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Morne fucking steyn kick away one more ball you useless idiot. This monkey meyer is gonna ruin the shark players in that team. Even mvovo goes for the uppie when its not on

  • Comment 17, posted at 25.08.12 21:39:07 by jako Reply
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  • @jako (Comment 17) : The problem is we lose the ball almost evertime we go to ground, so they are putting it in the air. Retarded response to poor ball protection

  • Comment 18, posted at 25.08.12 21:40:48 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Wow we take up an under penalty’s now……

  • Comment 19, posted at 25.08.12 21:41:50 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Pablo Dinero (Comment 18) : this is hard to watch

  • Comment 20, posted at 25.08.12 21:46:06 by jako Reply
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  • Oh Heyneke our savior! :roll:

  • Comment 21, posted at 25.08.12 21:46:29 by Ben Reply

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  • Hahaha!!!!!

  • Comment 22, posted at 25.08.12 21:46:35 by Franshark Reply
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  • Arg 10 – 3 SA 32min

  • Comment 23, posted at 25.08.12 21:47:36 by Franshark Reply
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  • Argentina pre sempre!!!

  • Comment 24, posted at 25.08.12 21:49:20 by Argex Reply

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  • @jako (Comment 20) : This is fcuking aweful to watch.

  • Comment 25, posted at 25.08.12 21:49:29 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Arg 13 – 3 SA 35min

  • Comment 26, posted at 25.08.12 21:50:11 by Franshark Reply
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  • The boks havent even looked like breaking a tackle yet and the forwards are getting bitch-slapped. @Argex (Comment 24) : Para siempre, no sé, pero por ahora… sí.

  • Comment 27, posted at 25.08.12 21:50:49 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Arg 13 – 3 SA HT

  • Comment 28, posted at 25.08.12 21:55:59 by Franshark Reply
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  • Well, it looks like Argentina are about to win their 1st 4 nations game. Their first against SA too. So much for SA being the biggest threat to NZ. The boks look like outmuscled high school bullies.

  • Comment 29, posted at 25.08.12 21:56:04 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • I cannot handle Hougaard as a scrumhalf…..

  • Comment 30, posted at 25.08.12 21:56:05 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @jako (Comment 17) :

    Between him and Hougaard…I donno who is frustrating me more…

  • Comment 31, posted at 25.08.12 21:57:14 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Changes in 2nd hlaf…

    Pienaar for Hougaard
    JJ for Mvovo

  • Comment 32, posted at 25.08.12 21:58:21 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 32) : seconded

  • Comment 33, posted at 25.08.12 22:00:58 by jako Reply
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  • Naas and Mallet opt to say…… Nothing :twisted:

  • Comment 34, posted at 25.08.12 22:01:38 by Franshark Reply
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  • Pablo Dinero : Yo hablo el espanol rioplatense.

  • Comment 35, posted at 25.08.12 22:03:15 by Argex Reply

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  • I aqm glad Meyer made a point of bringing on bigger guys…else we would have been bullied even more…
    Seems he could foresee a bully battle….

  • Comment 36, posted at 25.08.12 22:04:14 by Hmmm Reply

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  • HM is 4 years late. No more victor bakkies and du preez… and outdated game plan. Don’t think he’s a good enough coach to change his ways. Were in for a world of pain with this blou bloed bliksem

  • Comment 37, posted at 25.08.12 22:06:39 by jako Reply
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  • HM is 4 years late. No more victor bakkies and du preez… and outdated game plan. Don’t think he’s a good enough coach to change his ways. We’re in for a world of pain with this blou bloed bliksem

  • Comment 38, posted at 25.08.12 22:07:10 by jako Reply
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  • Get lambi and pienaar pleaaaaaaase

  • Comment 39, posted at 25.08.12 22:09:27 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Argex (Comment 35) : Vale, entiendo. :) Tu equipo está jugando muy bien. Muy fuerte. Buena suerte por la segunda parte.

  • Comment 40, posted at 25.08.12 22:11:41 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • South Africa are clueless with the ball in hand, but to give credit where its due. Argentina have done their homework. They have the boks figured out.

  • Comment 41, posted at 25.08.12 22:16:52 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Arg 13 – 6 SA 49min

  • Comment 42, posted at 25.08.12 22:17:11 by Franshark Reply
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  • Bekker off…..

  • Comment 43, posted at 25.08.12 22:17:50 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Franshark (Comment 42) : The only thing worse than losing will be if we win 15 – 13 with all Morne kicks. Then we will be truely doomed

  • Comment 44, posted at 25.08.12 22:18:19 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Flip on, first oppertunity he gives Arg a penalty…..

  • Comment 45, posted at 25.08.12 22:19:04 by Franshark Reply
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  • Flip comes on and picks up right where Bekker left off

  • Comment 46, posted at 25.08.12 22:19:29 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Arg 16 – 6 SA 52min

  • Comment 47, posted at 25.08.12 22:20:07 by Franshark Reply
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  • Arg 16 – 9 SA 54min

  • Comment 48, posted at 25.08.12 22:21:35 by Franshark Reply
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  • Was that a line break from JdV?? My goodness first of the game!

  • Comment 49, posted at 25.08.12 22:21:39 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Go go potgieter……

  • Comment 50, posted at 25.08.12 22:24:20 by Franshark Reply
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  • All looking good till the ball stolen on the ground 2 m out… Missing Bismark a bit are we?

  • Comment 51, posted at 25.08.12 22:25:12 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Pienaar on.. come on bring on lambi

  • Comment 52, posted at 25.08.12 22:26:45 by Franshark Reply
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  • That pass was forward because Morne’s pass was too sloooooow

  • Comment 53, posted at 25.08.12 22:28:29 by Franshark Reply
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  • Morne needs to leave

  • Comment 54, posted at 25.08.12 22:30:40 by byron Reply

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  • Thank you F Steyn…..

  • Comment 55, posted at 25.08.12 22:33:35 by Franshark Reply
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  • Arg 16 – 16 SA 66min

  • Comment 56, posted at 25.08.12 22:35:10 by Franshark Reply
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  • So thats the only way we can score tries now. Sad really

  • Comment 57, posted at 25.08.12 22:35:53 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Pat on… No not Patrick……

  • Comment 58, posted at 25.08.12 22:38:02 by Franshark Reply
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  • Arg 16 – 16 SA 71min as Morne missis another

  • Comment 59, posted at 25.08.12 22:43:28 by Franshark Reply
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  • Keeeeeegannnnnn

  • Comment 60, posted at 25.08.12 22:44:46 by Franshark Reply
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  • Come on Argies. Heyneke needs to be taught a lesson! :twisted:

  • Comment 61, posted at 25.08.12 22:47:41 by Ben Reply

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  • 3min to go, we need the ball to score, and Morne keeps on kicking the ball…..

  • Comment 62, posted at 25.08.12 22:47:42 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Franshark (Comment 62) : Hes too scared we will lose it in our own half. Its a cowards approach

  • Comment 63, posted at 25.08.12 22:50:07 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Jeaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

  • Comment 64, posted at 25.08.12 22:51:03 by Franshark Reply
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  • How unfortunate. Heyneke stays unbeaten as Bok coach. :(

  • Comment 65, posted at 25.08.12 22:51:31 by Ben Reply

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  • Hahahaha
    Arg 16 – 16 SA Full Time

  • Comment 66, posted at 25.08.12 22:52:03 by Franshark Reply
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  • Moral victory to the Pumas. Big time. Felicidades Argex.

  • Comment 67, posted at 25.08.12 22:52:26 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Pablo Dinero : Don’t know if I should cry or laugh! ;-) at least its a step closer to win!!

  • Comment 68, posted at 25.08.12 22:52:47 by Argex Reply

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  • What a joke.

    Heyneke not nearly as clever as he thinks he is. F’ing doos.

  • Comment 69, posted at 25.08.12 22:53:04 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @Argex (Comment 68) : Laugh. Your team was unlucky. They were never behind in the game and only conceded an unlucky try.

  • Comment 70, posted at 25.08.12 22:55:51 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 69) :

    His constant yelling into his radio is pathetic as well. Should have done the preparation before the game.

    I tried my best to give Heyneke a chance. I predicted this when he got the job, but got told to give him a chance.

    He’s had his chance. Now he needs to resign. He’s not building f all. He’s just a bag full of excuses.

  • Comment 71, posted at 25.08.12 22:56:58 by hendrikp Reply

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  • Gracias senor!

  • Comment 72, posted at 25.08.12 22:58:18 by Argex Reply

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  • “Giving everything all the time”

  • Comment 73, posted at 25.08.12 23:00:01 by Argex Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 71) : I can hear the excuses already. “The team didn’t execute the game plan.”

    What a joke!

  • Comment 74, posted at 25.08.12 23:00:08 by Ben Reply

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  • Pablo Dinero : Your Spanish is exceptionally good. Are you from Spain? Or Spanish heritage?

  • Comment 75, posted at 25.08.12 23:04:01 by Argex Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 74) :

    That would be true… but it’s difficult executing a game-plan when the players you picked are freaking useless.

    Knew this was coming. Didn’t want to believe it.

    Jake White took over a complete joke in 2004 and turned them into Tri Nations champions.

    Heyneke takes over a pretty damn good side, and can’t even beat Argentina :shock:

  • Comment 76, posted at 25.08.12 23:04:49 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 76) : Dude after the last game against England I said NZ will beat us 50 zip in the Rugby Championship. Now let’s wait and see.

  • Comment 77, posted at 25.08.12 23:07:57 by Ben Reply

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  • And the excuse is:
    Lack of experience…
    LMAO!!!
    Comon HM!!!

  • Comment 78, posted at 25.08.12 23:23:02 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Franshark (Comment 78) :

    :lol:

    What a fool.

    Will be in for more of the same until this guy finally gets the sack.

  • Comment 79, posted at 25.08.12 23:26:57 by hendrikp Reply

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  • hendrik
    We’re all upset about tonight’s performance but let’s not resort to name calling.

    I’m sure Heyneke will soon realise that his plans are outdated and that he needs to include the likes of Lambie, Kolisi, Daniel, De Jongh, etc.

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  • @wpw (Comment 80) :

    Wrong.

    He’s going to keep doing as he pleases. The only way things could get worse is by him going with players and a game-plan that he doesn’t believe in or care about.

    Just the wrong man for the job.

  • Comment 81, posted at 26.08.12 01:11:59 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 81) : fcuk!! That’s true. He is not talented enough to change.

  • Comment 82, posted at 26.08.12 07:54:37 by jako Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 80) : @hendrikp (Comment 81) : He’ll blame the execution.

    Next please!!!! Bring back Mallet

  • Comment 83, posted at 26.08.12 09:34:52 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 83) :

    Not much of his excuses been heard yet.

    At the moment he’s blaming inexperience. Wouldn’t think a starting line-up with 422 test caps was ‘inexperienced’. Extremely frustrating when the guy is on the wrong track but refuses to acknowledge it.

    @wpw (Comment 80) :

    If he ever starts Lambie at 10, while Steyn or Goosen are both fit, I’ll eat my hat.

    Kolisi also isn’t enough of a grinder for what he’s trying to do. Forget about that one.

    CJ Stander would’ve been ideal, but he went for the lesser of the two Blue Bulls in Jacques Potgieter :shock:

  • Comment 84, posted at 26.08.12 10:15:22 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 83) : Indeed, really enjoyed Mallet’s straight talking after the game. The rest of the commentators seemed either too scared or intellectually ill-equipt to express their point of view!
    Too put it mildly, disgraceful, but well done to Argentina! Meyer’s comments are also seriously concerning, since they are so naive you almost have to do a double-take.
    He said we were poor as we could not get quick ball. When asked why, he said it was because thats how Arg played and hopefully we will get quicker ball against Australia! It was fairly obvious to me that the reason we could not get quick ball is because our game plan is so predictable that Arg knew where the ball of going and simply flooded the breakdown…
    You sandwich those statements against the “Whats the point in having a plan B when you can’t execute plan A?” that he offered after drawing with Eng, and you are thinking who this the supposedly gifted coach?? Quite frankly I’ve seen nothing so far.

  • Comment 85, posted at 26.08.12 10:19:49 by neilster Reply

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  • @neilster (Comment 85) : I wonder how much more of this “execution” talk the players are willing to stomach before they too turn on the coach.

    Surely the core of the group also gets frustrated when undeserving players are given opportunity after opportunity when everyone can tell that the ship is going in the wrong direction.

    How much more will the guys take before they hijack the game plan and play the game the way it is obviously intended to be played?

    I’m hoping for a player revolt sooner rather than later.

  • Comment 86, posted at 26.08.12 10:56:33 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • One of the worst games I have ever seen the Bokke play….

    Terrible

  • Comment 87, posted at 26.08.12 22:39:00 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Heyneke Meyer said that this is a rebuilding phase. Fair enough. I can accept that, but if you treat this like a rebuilding phase, just f*king rebuild already!!! Keeping Morne Steyn in the team is not rebuilding. He cost us 2 wins already with his piss poor kicking and his countless up-and-unders going nowhere.

  • Comment 88, posted at 26.08.12 22:44:18 by TRF_Ezequiel Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 80) :

    Lambie yes…not sure about the rest….De Jongh could not even get a hand full of breaks in the S15 behind a great pack….

    I would leave Coetzee and Alberts….but bring in Kanko….that will be a great trio….

    I will also drop Bekker…he is a show pony…start Juandre…

    Morne needs to take a break…and Hougaardt needs to work on his scrumhalf play…

  • Comment 89, posted at 26.08.12 22:47:54 by Hmmm Reply

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  • No, Hougaard should play on the wing. He is not Test level material in his current position. Just bring in Pienaar, give Lambie a freaking chance and get rid of the high kicking combo of Hougaard and Steyn. Heyneke Meyer wants to rebuild but he sticks to the part that don’t work.

  • Comment 90, posted at 26.08.12 23:13:34 by TRF_Ezequiel Reply

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  • I remember PDV’s Boks thrashed the Argentinians a year after they finished 3rd at the 2007 RWC – and by a record score I might add.

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