A sad day for SA rugby

Written by Sharon van Wyk (Shaz)

Posted in :In the news, Original Content, Springboks on 26 Aug 2012 at 11:23
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Heyneke Meyer doesn’t like losing. But yesterday, on a field which gave all who watched on TV a headache with its distracting signage, the Springboks lost in Mendoza to an Argentinian side which had South Africa’s number from the moment the starting whistle blew.
The scoreboard may have declared a draw, but the shocking performance of a Bok side with more than 420 Test caps between them divvied up a loss in more ways than one… South Africa’s forwards were outclassed, the midfield outplayed and an almost non-existent backline outwitted. And once more we were left asking why the powers that be cling to players who are evidently past their sell-by date when fresher, faster and downright more tenacious talent is either sitting on the bench or waiting for a call-up.
When is it going to be the right time to blood South Africa’s stunning array of young players and ditch the has-beens? Most who know their rugby onions say now is that time after a game which should have been won in the opening quarter saw the Springboks scramble to break even in its dying minutes. Can anyone tell me why Bryan Habana deserves a Springbok shirt after yesterday’s lacklustre showing? And what the hell was the point of bringing on Flip van der Merwe, who promptly rewarded the effort by giving away a penalty? What, precisely, is Zane Kirchner’s outstanding plus point?
Meyer needs to take stock of his ill-gotten game plan and face up to the fact that the perpetual kicking away of possession is doing nothing but giving the opposition a chance to make us look stupid. At no point in yesterday’s game did one of Morne Steyn’s ill-conceived up and unders work to our advantage. And his two missed penalties, combined with two missed by his namesake Francois which should have been kicks for a lineout deep in Argentinian territory, cost us both the win and some sorely needed national pride.
But most aggravating is Meyer’s apparent snubbing of Patrick Lambie, who spent his second Test in succession on the bench while both Zane Kirchner and Morne Steyn failed to make any headway.
Anyone who knows Lambie knows that he is a game-changer, a player with that all-important X-Factor with an innate ability to rally his teammates around him and create something from nothing. But he has been relegated to benchwarmer, with his national coach knocking public holes in Lambie’s self-confidence by his declaration that he is not good enough to start for a team he both started for and represented with flying colours in last year’s Rugby World Cup.
If anyone wanted to kill Lambie’s God-given talent, this is surely the way to go about it. He has been pushed from pillar to post this season in an effort to make headway in the Springbok squad, forced to play in a position he is not ideally suited to (fullback) and that, combined with unfortunate injuries, has largely neutralised a player who has set every field he has ever played on alight with flair and excitement.
If this is what is in store for us throughout the Castle Rugby Championship, then the kindest thing for Springbok supporters would be to shoot us all now and spare us the pain and embarrassment of a repeat of the Mendoza performance, which in itself was a repeat of the final performance against England in Port Elizabeth.
Goodness only knows at what point Meyer will accept that he’s got the wrong mix of players and that experience counts for nothing if you play like pooh.
Nuff said. I rest my case.


  • Knew this would turn from a good article to a lambie praising article somewhere along the line :roll: :lol:

    Basically Meyer needs to get his mindset and game plan out the dark ages ,I don’t think he will, his pride pill is to large to swallow for him.

  • Comment 1, posted at 26.08.12 12:13:21 by Talent Reply
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  • Recipe for disaster ; 1.Pinch of provincial bias 2.Arrogant and oblivious coach 3.Failure to implement fundamental structures on defense that should be rudimentary 4.Go to ground ,rather -mindset

    As South Africans we are in for a torrid time .This guy wont have the grace to admit and consequently rectify his game plan ,he’ll plod along till we ,by fortune, win something and then point at that performance as to how it should have been executed all along

  • Comment 2, posted at 26.08.12 12:25:34 by Talent Reply
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  • 8 9 10 axis worries me. It is an area intelligence is needed. :|


  • Comment 3, posted at 26.08.12 12:28:29 by Talent Reply
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  • I don’t like blaming coaches ,Ive defended some that took flak this year, but I’m not optimistic about Meyers capacity as a head coach. Hope he proves me wrong.

  • Comment 4, posted at 26.08.12 12:33:02 by Talent Reply
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  • I fell asleep in the second half I thought we’d lose saw when I woke up we drew I don’t like HM either every post iv made criticized him but until we actually lose people need to take a chill pill and maybe he will change and if he doesn’t he will get sacked

  • Comment 5, posted at 26.08.12 12:59:50 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 5) :


    We’ve lost the Rugby Championship with that draw. Against a country we’ve never lost against, and should’ve beaten.

    Heyneke made promises, but hasn’t delivered.

    We’ve all got a right to be very angry I’d say. Going to take me at least a week to get over this.

  • Comment 6, posted at 26.08.12 13:15:29 by hendrikp Reply

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  • Any votes to return Peter De Villiers as Bok head coach? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 7, posted at 26.08.12 14:43:42 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 4) : You do know you could have said all of those things in one comment ;-)

  • Comment 8, posted at 26.08.12 14:45:14 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 6) : we haven’t lost anything,a lot can still happen don’t think the all blacks can just take us down and argentina you really underestimate us and argentina, yes he made promises that he would do his best and if his best is not good enough he will get fired,no coach wants to lose and hopefully the so called lose(draw) wakes him up with his seletions and game plan

  • Comment 9, posted at 26.08.12 14:50:05 by Poisy Reply
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  • Just watched the game for the first time this afternoon. It felt like sitting through a Sharks performance at the start of the season.

    The rot started at the forwards, who were completely outplayed by their opponents. Coetzee, Alberts and co did nothing but run into brick walls all day. The lineouts were poor, the scrum under pressure and ruck cleanouts so bad that Hougaard had Argie forwards all over him most of the time.

    The less said about the backline the better. Steyn is useless. The midfield made one line break, which led to a gain of 10 meters before turning the ball over. Our wings just stand and wait for things to come their way. Kirchner is a one trick up and under pony.

    The kind of performance this lot dished up under the “leadership” of JdV and “game plan” of Meyer was just plain pathetic.

  • Comment 10, posted at 26.08.12 14:57:46 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @The Sharks Sharkie (Comment 8) : :lol: shhh

  • Comment 11, posted at 26.08.12 15:27:13 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 1) : No praise, just some common sense and no small amount of outrage. I doubt I am alone in feeling robbed with Lambie sitting on the bench while we get served up luke-warm leftovers dressed as Springboks. :evil:

  • Comment 12, posted at 26.08.12 16:22:49 by Shaz Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 2) : I agree with you to an extent. I have a sinking feeling that the only game plan in town is the Loftus game plan, which might work year-in, year-out at the Bastion of Blueness but doesn’t stand a hope in hell in the international arena, and especially not against the All Blacks. If we don’t get creative, we are going to get hammered by both the Wallabies and the Kiwis. And we can’t get creative when creative players are being sidelined in favour of the usual one dimensional single-brain celled amoebas (bless them) whose only vice is that they keep getting picked. I would rather see Gio Aplon at fullback and Elton Jantjies at flyhalf than what I had to sit through yesterday. :sad:

  • Comment 13, posted at 26.08.12 16:33:09 by Shaz Reply
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  • @Shaz (Comment 13) : At least Aplon and Jantjies show signs of having a pulse. :lol:

  • Comment 14, posted at 26.08.12 16:35:14 by Shaz Reply
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  • It seems our public is intent on praising the bulls. They are not what they were 4 years ago. Some of their players dont deserve to be there. Who contested the semi’s? yet because bulls were there previously apparently they are good enough now. Stormers were heading the way the enitre season only to be snubbed at the turnstile by the national coach.

  • Comment 15, posted at 26.08.12 18:29:32 by Dunx Reply

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  • My only question is, if this result was 1 year ago with PDV in charge, what would the media have said then?? And how is their reaction different because Hyneke is in charge? Seems to me like not mot too much has changed from the PDV era.

  • Comment 16, posted at 27.08.12 07:46:54 by SheldonK Reply

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  • The boks is obviously missing that X-Factor. With Bissie and JPP on the sidelines there is very little remaining. Fransie has got some but is not getting quality ball to make something happen. For me it is just a misplacement of players. Hougaard to move to wing. Pienaar on 9, Lambie on 10, Alberts on 7 and for goodness sake bring Kanko into the mix. He is wasting his talents in Japan!

  • Comment 17, posted at 27.08.12 08:34:17 by Viking Reply
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  • Trust the Sharkies to punt the Sharkies,how can you take a dig at Habana who saw no ball whatsoever and when it did come,125kg wing was waiting there to mess up the whole thing. So now the Shark wingers should both for Boks when JPP is fit?? What about lock,is it because no Sharks player can come in there for Bekker that it’s not highlighted???

    Kirchner has absolutely no attacking game,but he wasn’t poor in that game,solid maybe. I agree Lambie at some point should have been brought on to add a spark.

    The loosies were all utter nonsense on the day,Marcell,Potties and Alberts,the further away Potties gets from Bok rugby the better,played into a gap and you run straight into the man,really??

    How about we highlight the Beast’s missed tackle,before Andries Bekker’s woefully half hearted attempt of a tackle.leading up to the Argies try.

    Steyn’s man of the match performance last week is sweeped under the carpet now,we could atleast be a bit objective when discussing national issues

  • Comment 18, posted at 27.08.12 09:52:59 by Ludz Reply

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  • Oh ya,Meyer’s gameplan will get us nowhere,Aussies will redeem themselves against us and NZ will give us the mother of all thrashings

  • Comment 19, posted at 27.08.12 10:02:19 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 19) : Can’t be worse than 49-0 . . . I hope

  • Comment 20, posted at 27.08.12 10:17:02 by Die Kriek Reply

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  • @Die Kriek (Comment 20) : haha,1 can only hope,but the way we playing,NZ will run us out of the game,we can thank our lucky stars SBW won’t be playing against us

  • Comment 21, posted at 27.08.12 10:34:41 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Talent (Comment 3) :

    Why not give Elton a go as well ?

  • Comment 22, posted at 27.08.12 10:46:08 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Shaz (Comment 12) :

    Same thing with Elton when he was on the bench against the pommies .. Nothing new

  • Comment 23, posted at 27.08.12 10:48:14 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Ludz (Comment 18) : I honestly can’t see poor selections being the only contributing factor in our performance on Saturday. Even with second-choice players we shouldn’t struggle this badly against the Pumas.

  • Comment 24, posted at 27.08.12 11:17:24 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Bring back Helium Pete! :???:

  • Comment 25, posted at 27.08.12 11:37:33 by klempie Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 24) :

    i wonder if some players might be complaisant .. I can kick how ever badly i want . i wont be dropped . ect .

  • Comment 26, posted at 27.08.12 11:50:35 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 25) :

    Bwahahahahaha……… :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 27, posted at 27.08.12 11:55:43 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I have not been this dissapointed since my grandma joined facebook… :???: :lol:

  • Comment 28, posted at 27.08.12 12:06:48 by Ice Reply
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  • I dont particularly feel thatr lambie has to start a game, (as he has been off for some time), but he sure as bloody hell needs to get some gametime and not 3 minutes a game either.

    The sooner we get him back to a decent 60 mins plus per game the better. He can make decisions and has authority – something Morne has none of.

    If heyneke is just carrying him around to please everyone else, he should rather release him to the CC in order for him to start building on his confidence again.

  • Comment 29, posted at 27.08.12 12:10:27 by Ice Reply
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  • Locks:
    Heyneke needs to let Bekker go – he is not adding value. Play Juandre Kruger. Then frop Flip too and bench Bresler. Flip’s 15 odd caps does not make a great deal of a difference, so might as well cut it short before he really does cost us a game.

    Loose forwards:
    Keegan is ok on the bench for his utility but Alberts should not be 8. Play him at 7. Pottie does not really cut it at the moment. HM needs to play either Vermeulen or Kankowski in the 8 jersey.

    I would probably give FH another go but I would rotate him and RP more often in order to ensure that both remain sharp.

    Drop Morne now. Let him rest a bit – he would mean a lot more to the boks by the end of the year if he had a rest. Play Lambie and bench Elton.

    Back three:
    Not a ZK fan but he really did not play badly. LM was probably the worst of the three actually.

    JDV clearly is not able to rouse his team and he is filled with too much self doubt. Play him at 13 for the leadership from experience but appoint another captain. I would personally go for either Strauss or for Juandre Kruger whom have led the Bulls with great aplomb in the past.

  • Comment 30, posted at 27.08.12 12:35:04 by King Shark Reply
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  • I need to reiterate some of the comments: -
    1)Why is Ludik still playing in CC whilst Kirchner is giving his worst & still keeping his place?
    2)Scrumhalf is also a problem area when Hougaard is not allowed to play his natural game. Ruan is a more forward thinking person.Why Jano Vermaak was chosen is beyond me. Watch out for Cobus Reinach in the future!
    3) Potgieter should go back to CC or the Kings.Bring Kanko back (HM put your pride in your pocket & say you are sorry).Alberts/Coetzee good combo as flankers with Daniel impacting later.
    4)Why,oh why, is van der Merwe playing? Whoever checks our stats please check the Potgieter/vd Merwe penalties?
    5)Morne Steyn – nothing can be said.
    6)JdV his penalty counts are pretty high as well
    7) Lastly – What on earth is Andries Bekker doing in the side apart from giving away advantage & opening up for them to score a try.Bresler/Sykes please!

    I will get off my soap box now with this parting shot. Why choose Lambie to warm the bench & have no intention of using him than put an extra forward on & use him rather. Go figure! :o

  • Comment 31, posted at 27.08.12 12:39:28 by markm Reply

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  • @King Shark (Comment 30) : I have been saying it for months, I would love to see what Lambie can do if he gets tossed the armband. Preferably from FH, but even from FB if need be

  • Comment 32, posted at 27.08.12 12:39:48 by Die Kriek Reply

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  • @King Shark (Comment 30) : very insightful and not a hint of Sharks bias,thank you sir for that

  • Comment 33, posted at 27.08.12 13:43:07 by Ludz Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 25) : Well if Snor was there, Fransie and Ruan would not have been – how much worse would we have been then! It doesn’t matter how frustrated we are with HM for saturday’s game – it is still way better than anything we had to endure under PDV

  • Comment 34, posted at 27.08.12 13:56:07 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 27) : :razz:

  • Comment 35, posted at 27.08.12 14:30:51 by klempie Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 34) : I was being ironic, gorgeous. :smile:

  • Comment 36, posted at 27.08.12 14:32:44 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 35) :

    So wie is volgende op die lys? Mallet? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 37, posted at 27.08.12 14:38:16 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 36) : I thought so….but i had to make sure ;-)

  • Comment 38, posted at 27.08.12 14:48:38 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 37) : As Sharks afrigter? Vir seker! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 39, posted at 27.08.12 15:43:21 by klempie Reply

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