You score four, we score four and then let’s play the game…

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Lions, Original Content, Sharks on 10 Oct 2012 at 09:00
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Hands up everyone who’d like to see Griquas return to Kings Park to play a semi-final against the Sharks next weekend. Ok, now while I can’t actually see those hands, I can only imagine that there may be a fair few of them, given that if you have to pick any of the sides in this new “strengthened” Currie Cup format, the underdogs from Kimberley are the ones you’d least hate to face.

Now, keep your hand up if you’re 100% confident about a Sharks semi-final win against the Blue Bulls, albeit at Kings Park. Slightly fewer hands, I’d imagine and I’m not ashamed to admit that mine certainly isn’t one of them. Truth is, though, if the Lions do indeed opt to “take the weekend off” when they play the Bulls, that’s pretty much exactly the scenario we could be facing. Pretty clever of them too, you’d fancy, for reasons that go far beyond the ones stated by their coach…. let’s face it, if I were in the Lions camp right now, apart from being absolutely livid with Griquas for destroying the home final dream, I’d be wanting to engineer the toughest semi for the Sharks that I possibly could. Remember, a Sharks loss next weekend will bring the final back to Joburg.

What can we do about this, though? Certainly, giving Griquas a bit of an easier game ourselves and allowing them to leave Durban with as many log points as possible (without compromising our own position) could work to our favour. Unfortunately, they’re not far enough ahead of either the Bulls or the Cheetahs for a bonus point or two to guarantee them fourth place, but a high-scoring game in which Griquas score four tries, but ultimately lose by fewer than seven points, could just prove to be as much in the favour of the hosts as it is the visitors.

The problem with the above scenario, though, is that it’s far too easy for the Lions to counter, given that they play a day later than the Sharks do. Should Griquas end up on 22 log points after Friday night, it’s completely conceivable that the Lions could then engineer a bonus point win for the Bulls a day later.

All in all, for the Sharks, I think it would be best to ignore all permutations and simply aim for the biggest win they can this week. And next week. And the week after that. Far simpler, all things considered!


  • I agree. Sharks should play to win and win good. Screw this permutations before it screws you.

  • Comment 1, posted at 10.10.12 09:12:10 by JarsonX Reply
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  • If our guys pitch up, we can and will win against anybody!!!!

    Cmon Sharks….. We have learnt our lessons regarding these sort of situations more than the other teams have… We should be experts at this by now. Get the mind right, and the body will follow… No mattter who you play against!

  • Comment 2, posted at 10.10.12 09:23:16 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • For me if you want to be the best you have to beat the rest.

    Just play to win and build the focus for the Semi’s and Final , this is why not all Boks should be rested now and the team should be playing together to build momentum

  • Comment 3, posted at 10.10.12 09:31:35 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Can someone write a article about Super Pat on Sharks World.

    In my opinion tha Sharks Pecking order Should always wave been…Lambie then Michelack… the Boks to be honest Goosen should have been eased into this Test series-without the presure, no presure at all….Lambie should have started @10 and then moved to 15….or maybe even better not play 15 at all. I would love to see the average stats for these youngsters…defensivly Lambie is the best with when taking up his backline in terms of communication…he also breaks the line the flatest of all the 10′s making him the easiest player of the lot to link up with in other words he creates momentum for his support runners. He also never kicks crossfield when kick for terretory, making his forewards love him(they don’t get tiered as fast). He is also very strong in contact and never spils a ball…not like the other 2…I just feel in my opnion he is a General of the backs he is a natural leader and that’s what you need at pivot….he also has no dissapline problems…he aparently trains untill his satisfied and not like Fransie until his “training time” has finished. I also have a good mate in the side and from his opion before the championship lambie was the man to take the boks into a new game…So what happen?…the Blue Bulls happen! With heineke sticking to his 2007 game plan no flyhalf who doesn’t kick the Ball 80meters is safe(not that Janjies can….I can’t help but wonder if Lambie was a player of colour(with all respects to the players its not there fault) would Jantjies have been there? I can’t help to think maybe not?

    Then from the bottom of my Sharks Hart if we don’t play you at 10 Bambie! Take your stuff and move on to the stormers-there captain would love to use you at 10!

  • Comment 4, posted at 10.10.12 09:41:43 by BoerSeun Reply

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  • Interesting and interestinger ;-)

  • Comment 5, posted at 10.10.12 09:42:15 by lostfish Reply
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  • @BoerSeun (Comment 4) : In all fairness Lambie was injured and Michelak stepped in and he was in some pretty good form so how could we justify dropping him.

  • Comment 6, posted at 10.10.12 09:44:30 by lostfish Reply
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  • @BoerSeun (Comment 4) : There is also no reason to play the colour card there because it had nothing to do with colour. Elton is a better flyhaf than Morne but he wasn’t picked ahead of him. Colour has nothing to do with it. Sheesh.

  • Comment 7, posted at 10.10.12 09:46:00 by lostfish Reply
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  • @BoerSeun (Comment 4) : @lostfish (Comment 6) :

    Besides Lambie having been injured , you must remember at the early stages of the sauper15 both Lambie and Freddy were playing well, Ludick and Viljoen were not, PLum thus had to find a way to have both inform players on the field of play, FReddy was brought in as 9 cover, was not that hot thus when playing 10 he performed,

    The situation had the time is what had plum play Lambie at 15 and not as some people think that Freddy was better than Lambie

  • Comment 8, posted at 10.10.12 09:53:56 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 6) : yes but does it justy making Lambie a no body? How much long term damage has this done to Lambie? only time will tell.

  • Comment 9, posted at 10.10.12 10:09:22 by Uli Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 9) : whoa, I am all for Lambie playing but he was just coming off an inury then so why throw him into the hotseat when he hadn’t played in months. It is also up to Lambie to say I am a flyhalf so pick me there rather than being willing to fill in wherever he is required. The guy is young and wants to play. The Sharks also need to think about where to pick him and stick to that.

  • Comment 10, posted at 10.10.12 10:17:31 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 10) :I agree 100%, he needs to stand up now, but then again he might become the devil on Sharksworld for not wanting to play out of position, like some other centre, who “did not” want to take one for the team….
    For Lambie’s sake, he needs to man up now, or go play with RP in Ireland.

  • Comment 11, posted at 10.10.12 10:23:17 by Uli Reply
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  • @BoerSeun (Comment 4) : the colour card is not allowed here. Please do not make comments like that again or you will be banned.

  • Comment 12, posted at 10.10.12 10:32:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • The Kwas will come out hard for this game. A win will guarantee them a place in the semi’s.

    So we need to take this one seriously and not try and play any games with log positions. We do need to top the log so we can get a home final provided we win our semi of course.

  • Comment 13, posted at 10.10.12 10:36:45 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • We are good enough to beat anyone on any given day.

  • Comment 14, posted at 10.10.12 10:51:20 by Dunx Reply

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  • @Dunx (Comment 14) : Except in the last 2-3 years the Lions in Johannesburg :shock:

  • Comment 15, posted at 10.10.12 11:03:46 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • I really don’t think it matters if we play the Bulls. Our forwards are better than theirs and as has been proven at Super Rugby level, Currie Cup level and International level :evil: when you match the pack playing their tactics they have trouble keeping up.

  • Comment 16, posted at 10.10.12 11:35:17 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @BoerSeun (Comment 4) : If anything this argument should have been made for Elton instead, he was the in-form flyhalf once Meyer decided to drop Steyn. Lambie’s time will either come through injury crisis or lack of in-form flyhalves. Writing articles stating the same points that have been made countless times before won’t force Meyer’s hand.

  • Comment 17, posted at 10.10.12 11:48:34 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 11) : I would hope that the Sharks have learned by now that they are not going to keep the players if they keep shunting them around especially if it is stunting them as a player.

  • Comment 18, posted at 10.10.12 13:24:31 by lostfish Reply
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  • We beat the reds in sydney we beat the stormers in capetown..we thrashed wp in durban..we beat the lions in durban..we beat the cheetahs in durban..we beat the bulls in durban and we will most probably beat the kwas in durbs too..we have home ground advantage..hopefully enough support and a team who could take on nations..we don’t need permutations..we just need our fans to they have every year..and for a bit of interesting reading..2008 currie cup champs..2010 currie cup champs..2012???? All even number years…

  • Comment 19, posted at 10.10.12 13:38:20 by shaniboi Reply

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  • @shaniboi (Comment 19) : sorry guys brisbane my bad..

  • Comment 20, posted at 10.10.12 13:41:59 by shaniboi Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 8) :

    Actually when Lambie was used at 15, Ludik was in pretty fine form. And even I, a very big Lambie fan, said Plum had to play Lambie at 10 or from the bench.

    He didn’t do Lambie any favors by playing him at 15.

  • Comment 21, posted at 10.10.12 14:13:34 by Letgo Reply
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  • @BoerSeun (Comment 4) : You got your wish!! Lambo wearing the 10 on Friday!! :grin:

  • Comment 22, posted at 10.10.12 15:24:34 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 22) : Fabulous news :grin:

  • Comment 23, posted at 10.10.12 15:26:22 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 23) : Hows the newbie? ;-)

  • Comment 24, posted at 10.10.12 15:28:15 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 24) : She is great thanks. Sleeps like a dream 11pm until 9:30am most nights. I have to say that she has become quite good at predicting Sharks wins and losses.

  • Comment 25, posted at 10.10.12 15:33:40 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 25) : Wow that is great!

    How does she do that? is she a bad girl when we are about to lose? LOL

  • Comment 26, posted at 10.10.12 15:35:58 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 26) : lol, she has a Sharks babygrow. She wears it every Friday (I know I am lame) If she has an explosion and I need to change her out of the babygrow the Sharks have lost. Recently she hasn’t been doing that.

  • Comment 27, posted at 10.10.12 15:40:18 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 27) : Whatever you do – keep her in that outfit untill the CC is over! LOL – that is too damn cute man!

  • Comment 28, posted at 10.10.12 15:50:58 by Ice Reply
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