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Mornes in hot water


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Bulls, Currie Cup, Original Content on 22 Oct 2012 at 13:31
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Blue Bulls prop Morne Mellett and flyhalf Morne Steyn have both been cited, following Saturday’s semi-final loss against the Sharks in the Currie Cup.

Mellett was yellow-carded for a blatant trip on Patrick Lambie in the first half, which the citing commissioner clearly felt warrants a harsher punishment. Steyn was caught on camera flying into Sharks fullback Louis Ludik with a swinging forearm late in the game, and has been cited for that incident, as well as another, according to Rugby365. The details about the second incident are not yet known.

Both players will attend a disciplinary hearing in Pretoria on Tuesday.



41 Comments

  • Good!

  • Comment 1, posted at 22.10.12 13:37:44 by Pokkel Reply
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  • It has not been a happy 2012 for Steyn. Time he withdraws himself from the scene until Super rugby next year. I dont think he is a bad guy at all, just someone caught up in a lot of hype with a hell of a lot of expectations from many quarters and being used to prove other peoples points.

  • Comment 2, posted at 22.10.12 13:38:17 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • Morne Steyn must clearly be a frustrated player in need of a decent rest. He’s never resorted to this sort of play in the past.

  • Comment 3, posted at 22.10.12 13:38:40 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 2) : he’s got some background family shit going down too

  • Comment 4, posted at 22.10.12 13:39:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : Yeah…besides the birth of his child, I think its a year he’d rather forget.

  • Comment 5, posted at 22.10.12 13:42:57 by Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : Exactly, and its very notable that his dip in form coincided with that event. He needs a break, has needed it for a long while.

  • Comment 6, posted at 22.10.12 13:45:12 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • Steyn will not be banned, nor does he deserve to be.

    While I’d like to see Lambie at 10 for the Boks (especially after his performance over the weekend), it’s never going to happen under Meyer.

    The guy has terrible technique when punting which means he doesn’t find nearly the distance that others do. For that reason don’t expect to see him in the Bok 10 jersey anytime soon.

  • Comment 7, posted at 22.10.12 13:45:32 by hendrikp Reply

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  • Mellett should be suspended for at least a year for even hinting to lift his leg towards Mr Pat Lambi !!

  • Comment 8, posted at 22.10.12 13:52:07 by Franshark Reply
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  • Steyn has been cited for striking as well as dangerous tackling – same incident – two different breaches within the same action.

  • Comment 9, posted at 22.10.12 13:55:20 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 9) : oh thanks :)

  • Comment 10, posted at 22.10.12 14:12:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • Well at least the bully boys are getting what they deserve.Hopefully the suspense agrees too.

  • Comment 11, posted at 22.10.12 14:22:02 by Dunx Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 7) : its called a kicking coach…

  • Comment 12, posted at 22.10.12 14:57:28 by MJ Reply

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  • @MJ (Comment 12) : and why does he need to kick 80m if frans steyn can kick it next to him, you can alwys swap first receiver around in the game.

  • Comment 13, posted at 22.10.12 14:58:57 by MJ Reply

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  • If it is impossible to win the game… try to at least win the fight. a Blue Bulls directive!!! :evil:

  • Comment 14, posted at 22.10.12 14:59:02 by Jr88 Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 3) : Clearly you have forgotten the red card against the Sharks several years ago for a nasty tip tackle???????

  • Comment 15, posted at 22.10.12 15:11:39 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @MJ (Comment 13) :

    Then you might as well play Frans at 10.

    Besides, Frans himself has a very long motion leading up to his clearance kicks.

    Think sometimes people on here really underestimate the value of a strong kicking game.

  • Comment 16, posted at 22.10.12 15:15:01 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 16) : whats with you and this ” distance ” thing. a long kick isnt always an effective kick. Lambie is a tactical kicker and his range hasnt let him down yet. his up and unders are accurate and perfectly weighted.

  • Comment 17, posted at 22.10.12 15:20:55 by The Duke Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 16) : Agree with you. Lambie needs to work on his out of hand kicking, which is pretty average. Even when he has time, such as taking a penalty kick to touch, he often doesn´t gain much ground.

  • Comment 18, posted at 22.10.12 15:54:59 by rhineshark Reply

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  • @The Duke (Comment 17) :

    What you’re suggesting is that it doesn’t matter if you can’t kick the ball far when you’re in your own half.

    Sorry but that’s just ridiculous. Can’t say it any other way :|

  • Comment 19, posted at 22.10.12 16:00:13 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 19) : No he did not say that. You have a tendency to misrepresent other points of view to help support your own. What he said is that “a long kick is not always an effective kick” meaning if not kicked to touch or to open space, it is ineffective. Nowhere did he say that an effective short kick is as good as an effective long kick. This tendency of yours to misrepresent other views is the only ridiculous thing here. :evil:

  • Comment 20, posted at 22.10.12 16:03:50 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 20) :

    You live in the US right?

    Saying Lambie has a good enough kicking game is like saying Tim Tebow has a good enough arm.

    You might be able to get by with it for a while, but long term it’s going to be exposed.

  • Comment 21, posted at 22.10.12 16:14:53 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 20) :
    Long time no see. I see the pimp hand is still strong.

  • Comment 22, posted at 22.10.12 16:21:43 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 16) : We want our backline to be effective. That’s why we want Lambie at 10.

  • Comment 23, posted at 22.10.12 16:27:54 by Ben Reply

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  • I see it like this…the closer we can get lambie the ball, the better for the sharks…after a few recycles of the ball by the forwards and you give lambie the ball…you just know something is going to happen… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 24, posted at 22.10.12 18:50:19 by sharktooth Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 21) : Again, you are misrepresenting what I said, I never said anything about Lambie’s kicking length, all I said is that simply because a kick is long does not make it effective. You keep trying to make that into a defense for Lambie’s kicking, but it is not, it is simply a statement of fact. I sure as hell didn’t say anything about Tim Tebow.

  • Comment 25, posted at 22.10.12 19:29:35 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 22) : Hiya BF……

  • Comment 26, posted at 22.10.12 19:32:51 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 21) : No it’s kinda like you saying Eli Manning is not a good QB because He does not have as big an arm as Brady. There is no such thing as the perfect player, you can have a player that kicks but does not play his back line (morne) a player that has flair but no experience (goosen), a player that can step and pass, but not the best on defense (elton) or a player that dictates the game and plays the back line, but not the biggest kicker (Lambie) they all have there short comings but interms of current form there is only on option, its not rocket science.

  • Comment 27, posted at 22.10.12 19:55:48 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 27) : i agree…and at this stage lambie is the best playing 10 in SA

  • Comment 28, posted at 22.10.12 19:58:48 by sharktooth Reply

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  • @sharktooth (Comment 28) : exactly, Morne is off form and needs a break, Goosen is injured so can’t go, so take Lambie and Elton on EoYT, there will have to be a third flyhalf, and give both Lambie and Elton game time to see who takes there opitunity. I personally am a Lambie fan, but Elton is also good and deserves a chance.

  • Comment 29, posted at 22.10.12 20:31:00 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Firstly Mellet should have received a red card on the field so I hope he receives a ban< not a lengthy one though. As for Morne…he took a cheap shot out of frustration and deserves to pay the consequences as he would whine like a little girl if it happened to him! The best thing Morne Steyn could do is go and play 2 seasons in New Zealand and then come back a year before the next RWC. He needs to re-discover the old Morne Steyn- the running Morne Steyn!

  • Comment 30, posted at 23.10.12 07:50:03 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Seth101 (Comment 29) : A third flyhalf…and I know it wont be everyone’s choice…but Meyer Bosman!! He has done it before..one of the best passes in the game and his kicking % has improved!

  • Comment 31, posted at 23.10.12 07:51:36 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 30) : The Penalty for tripping is a penalty kick. he received a yellow card and we got a penalty kick. So, I doubt that anything further will happen to him.

  • Comment 32, posted at 23.10.12 08:21:44 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 32) : Under normal circumstances, yes, but this trip stopped an almost certain try, it would not have been wrong to award a penalty try for it, and that may count against Morne at the hearing

  • Comment 33, posted at 23.10.12 08:26:57 by Die Kriek Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 31) : Bosman also has the added versatility of being equally good at 10 and 12, now that he’s sorted out his defense… It’s fair to say he’s the ideal bench player for the Boks in that position.

  • Comment 34, posted at 23.10.12 08:48:14 by The Quirk Reply
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  • @Die Kriek (Comment 33) : I agree that it was a try – or should have been a penalty try. Unfortunately ML blew the whistle. However – the correct and even a bit harsher penalty was given on the field that would normally have been given – and that is why I think it wont go further. All in all, I guess you cannot penelise the player for the mistake made by the ref?

  • Comment 35, posted at 23.10.12 09:44:43 by Ice Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 31) : I do agree with you, but I honestly don’t see him being chosen, not with HM’s tendency to pick not so deserving Bulls youngsters, but who knows, I thinking it will probably be Morne.

  • Comment 36, posted at 23.10.12 10:06:28 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 15) : Nope, it was 2008 if I’m not mistaken.

  • Comment 37, posted at 23.10.12 11:22:26 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 19) :

    but its not the be all and end all like you make it. are you one of those size matters guys … :shock: hahaha

  • Comment 38, posted at 23.10.12 12:04:08 by The Duke Reply

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  • @Seth101 (Comment 36) : Yeh i know exactly what u mean. But we can dream of a non blue world!haha@Ice (Comment 32) : I disagree, it was a delibrate and a professional foul preventing a try. It should have been red. We dont need that in the game…its not soccer!

  • Comment 39, posted at 23.10.12 12:20:01 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 39) : Just stating what the Law says Sheldon…

    “(d) Tripping. A player must not trip an opponent with the leg or foot.
    Sanction: Penalty kick “

  • Comment 40, posted at 23.10.12 13:14:04 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 40) : The thing is, though, that the ref has discretion to show a card for any incident of foul play. That doesn’t change what the sanction should be.

  • Comment 41, posted at 23.10.12 13:18:19 by robdylan Reply
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