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First Division v Premier Division


Written by Pierre McLeod (pierre_mackie)

Posted in :Cheetahs, Currie Cup, EP Kings, Original Content, Reader Submissions on 23 Oct 2012 at 10:14
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On Friday night we saw the first of a two leg promotion / relegation game between 1st Division Champions EP Kings and bottom of the Premier Division log The Cheetahs in Bloem.

At no time during the 80min game did it look like the Cheetahs might struggle and they were just too strong for the Kings, outscoring them 8 tries to 2.

Even in the forward play where the Kings had given the opposition uphill in previous games they struggled and popped up under pressure at scrum time. We saw the same in their driving mauls where the Cheetahs easily kept the maul in the air and turned possession over.

On the few occasions when the Kings ran with the ball, they lost it in the tackle situation due to a lack of players competing at the ruck. The Cheetahs were just too quick with the turn over ball and scored a few tries from Kings attacking efforts. One of these came when Andries Strauss received the ball from Raymond Ruhle after he left Paul Perez grabbing at his ankles.

Final score Cheetahs 53 Kings 14.

Not only did we see the Cheetahs end the Kings 16 game unbeaten record, they also ended all hope for the Kings to turn it around in the second leg of the promotion / relegation game in Port Elizabeth this coming Friday night.

The Cheetahs not only ended the Kings hopes of playing in the Premier Division of the Currie Cup but we also witnessed the huge gap between 1st Division and Premier Division.

The Kings who dominated the 1st Division with 12 victories and 2 draws, managing to rack up 62 points from 14 games, looked out of their depth and a bit bewildered against a team that has been playing with the big boys for years. Even the Kings big names like Clint Newman, Jaco Engels, Michael Killian, Paul Perez and SP Marais struggled and looked out of sorts against the opposition.

Even though the Kings took a beating on Friday I do believe it will be a different story in PE this coming week. The Cheetahs showed the Kings what it means to play amongst the big boys, but I reckon they will be up for the challenge and to show the rugby public they have outgrown the 1st Division and given a bit of time they will be able to hold their own amongst the best in South African rugby.



22 Comments

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  • Comment 1, posted at 23.10.12 11:12:56 by Megatron Reply
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  • i reckon the currie cup should expand to 7 teams, giving 1 a bye every week. Bring the kings up.

  • Comment 2, posted at 23.10.12 12:15:06 by Dunx Reply
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  • we should have a itm cup format for the cc 7 teams in each division with some cross conferance games being played as well

  • Comment 3, posted at 23.10.12 12:24:21 by BR Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 1) : Do you have to pay to subscribe?

  • Comment 4, posted at 23.10.12 12:28:01 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @BR (Comment 3) : What exactly is the ITM format?

  • Comment 5, posted at 23.10.12 12:28:44 by ChrisS Reply
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  • Sorry to say guys but the kings in the Premier division is just a huge joke, they themselves know they need major help from the outside just to compete at a higher level .Initially they pleaded to be included because they have such a large pool of talent, and deserved the oppertunity ,now they say they need outside help to go forward???? where then is this huge deserving talent that was spoken of??Meg help me please with my obvious ignorance in this matter if you can?

  • Comment 6, posted at 23.10.12 13:05:22 by CLASSIC SHARK Reply

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  • @CLASSIC SHARK (Comment 6) : that’s incredible naive. Any talent needs to be developed and one of the way to further develop existing talent is to expose it to top class competition…

  • Comment 7, posted at 23.10.12 13:20:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • I don’t think comment 6 is naive at all. You can have all the depth in the world but without good talent you are nowhere, any good talent from the Eastern Cape ends up elsewhere. The Cheetahs have struggled to hold onto their talent, the Kings will have an even bigger problem. Hence they will always struggle against the bigger unions. They have only been given a year to build a team to compete and remain in Super Rugby. This time next year they will be back in the B Div with all the “talent” running for contracts with A Div and Super Rugby teams. That, for EP rugby, is the unfortunate truth.

  • Comment 8, posted at 23.10.12 13:44:51 by markp Reply

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  • So how different is the S15 Kings team expected to be from this team of mostly has-beens like Falie Oelshig and Jaco Engels that competed on Friday?

    I know of the Catrakilis (sic), Strauss and Sykes – I assume Tiger and who else?

  • Comment 9, posted at 23.10.12 13:47:31 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @markp (Comment 8) : what I meant, though, is that it’s naive to expect the just because the EP region has a lot of “talent”, that will immediately translate to success against teams that have been playing top rugby for longer.

  • Comment 10, posted at 23.10.12 13:58:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 10) : Sad thing is at the moment they are not trusting the “talent” to get them into the Premier CC division either

  • Comment 11, posted at 23.10.12 14:00:44 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 11) : I think they’re going to get slated whatever they do…

  • Comment 12, posted at 23.10.12 14:06:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • @ChrisS (Comment 5) : they have 2 divisions, premiership and championship each consisting of 7 teams each, you play the teams in your division once and 4 cross conference games , to my opinion the cross conference games help that the gap between premiership and championship teams never get too big, some of the beter championship teams actually pull of wins against premiership teams from time to time

  • Comment 13, posted at 23.10.12 17:38:26 by BR Reply
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  • @BR (Comment 13) : This only works because they have a salary cap in place, meaning the bigger provinces can not just scoop up all the talent.

  • Comment 14, posted at 23.10.12 20:39:14 by MysticShark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 7) : Rob , is it not naïve of the eastern cape to think that they are deserving of a s15 place when they (by the look of things ) cannott even get into the CC premier. Surely the CC Premier should have been happening before trying for s15 (Baby steps). They should have been trying to attract these Bigger players long ago , not just before s15, am I really being they Naïve?

  • Comment 15, posted at 23.10.12 23:47:46 by CLASSIC SHARK Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 7) : btw did you at all think that Ep would put one over the FS on Friday? Just asking?

  • Comment 16, posted at 23.10.12 23:50:45 by CLASSIC SHARK Reply

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  • @CLASSIC SHARK (Comment 15) : I think you ARE being Naive. How would they have attracted big name/better players? With the promise of 1stDiv CC?

    Take Catrakilis and/or Andries Strauss as examples, do you think he would have moved to the Kings if they were only playing in the Vodacom Cup?

  • Comment 17, posted at 24.10.12 05:52:25 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Here’s the way I see the near future.
    *Kings get a few players for the SR
    *Kings don’t do well in SR
    *Kings have some of those players left over from SR to convincingly win the 1st Div CC again.
    *Kings win CC Promotion/Relegation.
    *More players join/are discovered and they do better in SR (if they are given a 2nd season)
    *Their quality slowly snowballs from there.

  • Comment 18, posted at 24.10.12 05:59:47 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @CLASSIC SHARK (Comment 15) : it’s naive to think that those players would sign for the Kings without the prospect of Super Rugby exposure, yes.

  • Comment 19, posted at 24.10.12 06:30:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • @CLASSIC SHARK (Comment 16) : I wasn’t sure. Hoped they would.

  • Comment 20, posted at 24.10.12 06:30:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @MysticShark (Comment 14) : even though they have salary cap teams like canterbury, waikato, auckland, wellington and taranaki still seem to pick up the big names

  • Comment 21, posted at 24.10.12 08:31:29 by BR Reply
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  • @BR (Comment 21) : True, but the spread is more even.

  • Comment 22, posted at 24.10.12 10:48:04 by MysticShark Reply
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