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Paper view: Sharks vs Province


Written by Pierre McLeod (pierre_mackie)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Reader Submissions, Sharks, WP on 26 Oct 2012 at 10:08
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With only one game left in this year’s Currie Cup season, we see the Sharks from Durban hosting Western Province from Cape Town.

Just a quick look at what happened in the round robin matches, the Sharks hosted Province on 15 September and it was more like a water polo game than a rugby match.

Most will remember the match for the ill discipline from Province who ended the game with 12 men, final score Sharks 43 Western Province 27.

The game in Cape Town on 11 August was a much closer affair after Province enjoyed a 13-3 half time break, but 2 quick tries put the Sharks right back into the game and in the end Sharks walking off victorious 25-23.

Lets see how the two teams face up for the final,

Front row
With the likes of Jannie and Beast current Springbok front row and only Burden still to play a test must be overwhelming favourites against a young and still a bit inexperience Province front row with Kitshoff representing the Boks u/20 side in the IRB Junior World Championship.
Sharks 1 WP 0

Locks
Its going to be an interesting tussle with Bresler and Etzebeth, both young and talented guys to watch for the future, a guy like Etzebeth already nominated for 3 SA rugby awards after only his 1st year of senior rugby.
Sharks 1 WP 1

Loose forwards
Daniel, Coetzee and Alberts guys you would rather want in your time then to play against, facing Vermeulen, Armand and Fourie. Fourie has done well in leading this Province side to the final and also the one responsible for putting the nail in the Lions coffin last week.
Sharks 1 WP 0

Scrumhalves
Two very exciting scrummies with Reinach really challenging McLeod for the no9 jersey this Currie Cup season, Groom and Shreuder also two very capable scrummies for Province. Shreuder also added life to Province back line when he came on at flyhalf last week.
Sharks 1 WP 0

Flyhalves
Don’t need to go into to much details here, Lambie vs Catrakilis. With Lambie returning to CC duty hes really showed everyone why he should be considered and no10 and not 15 for the Springboks.
Sharks 1 WP 0

Centers
Whitehead and Jordaan two fan favourites among Sharks supporters, Whitehead being the quiet one among the two just going about doing his business unnoticed while Jordaan not needing a second invitation with half a gap. De Jongh partnering with De Allende and Brache on the bench one can only wonder what can be expected from this midfield?
Sharks 1 WP 1

Back 3
It will be a case of Province attacking backs vs Sharks last line of defence. Aplon, VD Heever and Habana 3 dangerously attack backs with another speedster in Peterson on the bench waiting to cause trouble in the last 20min like he did against the Lions last week.
Sharks back 3 more known for their solid devense can also turn your mistakes into points, with Mvovo and JP always keen to run, and if you give them enough space you looking for trouble, then there is Ludik safe as anything under the high ball and don’t expect him to tackle anywhere higher then your ankles.
Sharks 1 WP 1

Bench
With some senior and Springbok players among the replacement its going to be interesting to see what these guys bring to the ball game.
Sharks 1 WP 0

It all makes for interesting reading and Sharks looks like overwhelming favourites on paper, but that counts for nothing when you run onto the pitch, the amount of finals you’ve played, the amount of awards you been nominated for, the amount of tries you’ve scored.

All i can say is put your bar fridge next to the couch and don’t try and start that braai half time.

Sharks: 15 Louis Ludik, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Paul Jordaan, 12 Tim Whitehead, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Pat Lambie, 9 Cobus Reinach, 8 Keegan Daniel (captain), 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Marcell Coetzee, 5 Anton Bresler, 4 Steven Sykes, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Craig Burden, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.
Replacements: 16 Kyle Cooper, 17 Wiehahn Herbst, 18 Jandre Marais, 19 Jean Deysel, 20 Charl McLeod, 21 Meyer Bosman, 22 Odwa Ndungane.

Western Province: 15 Gio Aplon, 14 Gerhard van den Heever, 13 Juan de Jongh, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Demetri Catrakilis, 9 Nic Groom, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Don Armand, 6 Deon Fourie (captain), 5 De Kock Steenkamp, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Scarra Ntubeni, 1 Steven Kitshoff.
Replacements: 16 Deon Carstens, 17 Brok Harris, 18 Wilhelm van der Sluys, 19 Jebb Sinclair, 20 Louis Schreuder, 21 Marcel Brache, 22 Joe Pietersen

Date: Saturday, October 27
Venue: Kings Park, Durban
Kick-off: 17.00 (15.00 GMT)
Referee: Jaco Peyper
Assistant referees: Christie du Preez, Stefan Breytenbach
TMO: Johann Meuwesen



26 Comments

  • My bar fridge doesn’t fit next to my seat in the main stand. Lucky I am on crutches my mates will have to do the beer runs. I won’t miss a second of the game.

  • Comment 1, posted at 26.10.12 10:39:22 by markp Reply
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  • In all fairness the only difference between these two teams is experience in the front row the rest are very evenly matched when based on skill.

    15 Louis Ludik vs Gio Aplon = Aplon
    14 JP Pietersen vs Gerhard van den Heever = JP
    13 Paul Jordaan vs Juan de Jongh = de Jongh
    12 Tim Whitehead vs Damian de Allende = Tim
    11 Lwazi Mvovo vs Bryan Habana = Habana
    10 Pat Lambie vs Demetri Catrakilis = Lambie
    9 Cobus Reinach vs Nic Groom = Tie
    8 Keegan Daniel (c) vs Duane Vermeulen = Tie
    7 Willem Alberts vs Don Armand = Alberts
    6 Marcell Coetzee vs Deon Fourie = Tie
    5 Anton Bresler vs De Kock Steenkamp = Bresler
    4 Steven Sykes vs Eben Etzebeth = Eben
    3 Jannie du Plessis vs Frans Malherbe = Jannie
    2 Craig Burden vs Scarra Ntubeni = Craig
    1 Beast Mtawarira vs Steven Kitshoff = Beast

    Sharks take the XV 8 – 4 thanks to the front row 3-0

    Subs:
    16 Kyle Cooper vs Deon Carstens = Deon
    17 Wiehahn Herbst vs Brok Harris = Tie
    18 Jandre Marais vs Wilhelm van der Sluys = Tie
    19 Jean Deysel vs Jebb Sinclair = Tie
    20 Charl McLeod vs Louis Schreuder = Charl
    21 Meyer Bosman vs Joe Pietersen = Joe
    22 Odwa Ndungane vs Marcel Brache = Odwa

    Based on impact the bench is tied.

  • Comment 2, posted at 26.10.12 10:46:25 by Zandman Reply
     
  • Ludik ties with Aplon
    Cooper ahead of Carstens
    Bosman and Pietersen a tie at least – Bosman has been very good in this Currie Cup

    Apart from that I agree

  • Comment 3, posted at 26.10.12 10:51:17 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Daniel beats Vermeulen
    Coetzee beats Fourie — by a country mile
    Marais beats V D Sluys
    Deysel beats Sinclair
    Bosman beats Joe — Joe only has a good boot.

    Go Sharks

  • Comment 4, posted at 26.10.12 11:13:46 by Ernie Reply
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  • Brache and Bosman should be compared here, they cover centre on the bench, as should Odwa and Joe who covers the back three.

    I would say based on form both the Sharkies takes it here, although Joe was great when he came of the bench in the Semi!

  • Comment 5, posted at 26.10.12 11:24:15 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Ernie (Comment 4) :

    Angree on Marcell and Fourie, but Keegan and Duane is harder to call.

    They’re very different players, so you have to consider their impact for their teams and I would say right now, Daunne is more important to his team and has made a difference, not unlike Keegan did since he came back from the boks.

    It is still a close call, since Keegan has been playing great and been leading from the front … And more importantly, always seems to play his best rugby in the finals and semis.

  • Comment 6, posted at 26.10.12 11:27:19 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Ernie (Comment 4) : A very shark based view. Looking at it from a neutral and judging on this years form. Only real dispute can be between Cooper and Deon but Deon gets it for his experience.

  • Comment 7, posted at 26.10.12 11:28:39 by Zandman Reply

     
  • Seriously guys some of you clearly do not watch the games. Based on current form (i.e. last 3 games) Ludick is way ahead Aplon and is getting better every game. It will be an interesting match up between the 2 best fullbacks in the country. Marcell is in a different league to Deon although Deon has played out of his socks this Currie Cup. Marcell was brilliant at Super Rugby and for the Boks. On the bench Sinclair couldn’t even tie Deysels shoe laces never mind match him on the field. I don’t believe that the Sharks front row is that much better and it will come down to the attitude on the day. In fairness its not the front rows but the management of the game. Reinach & Lambie I believe will be better at it. I also can’t wait for the Daniel & Vermeulen match up.

  • Comment 8, posted at 26.10.12 12:05:49 by markp Reply

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  • @Zandman (Comment 2) : Think you got it a bit wrong. I am not a bias sharks supporter, but I do tend to agree with the next 2 comments ;)

  • Comment 9, posted at 26.10.12 12:45:08 by HeinF Reply

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  • @Zandman (Comment 2) : You obviously don’t rate Ludik much if you put Aplon ahead of him.In head to heads in the last games between the teams, Ludik has run rings around Aplon literally.A couple of your other calls are contentious as well. That is why this blog is so great, we can agree to disagree – even if I am right! :lol:

  • Comment 10, posted at 26.10.12 13:33:38 by markm Reply

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  • @markp (Comment 8) : “Seriously guys some of you clearly do not watch the games.” I was about to say the same earlier but I resisted the temptation. We’ll just have to agree to disagree then. As long as both teams play some great rugby on Saturday i’ll be happy.

  • Comment 11, posted at 26.10.12 14:32:34 by Zandman Reply

     
  • @Zandman (Comment 2) : I think you have the match ups pretty well covered. We have to watch Etzebeth closely. He is a destroyer. I agree with Plumtree, we have to watch the WP x-factor. They have based their season on defense but have the ability to score tries from way out. Smart money has to be on Sharks. I have them to win by 10 on superbru but it is a final. Anything can happen.

  • Comment 12, posted at 26.10.12 15:51:04 by Amateur Reply

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  • @Zandman (Comment 2) : Jebb moers Deysel…KNOCKOUT! :mrgreen: :lol:

  • Comment 13, posted at 26.10.12 17:04:58 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 13) : haha… let’s see him try that again :)

  • Comment 14, posted at 26.10.12 17:08:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • Yeah, let Jebb get another red card.

  • Comment 15, posted at 26.10.12 17:09:50 by TRF_Ezequiel Reply

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  • @TRF_Ezequiel (Comment 15) : where’s Tyrone Holmes this week?

  • Comment 16, posted at 26.10.12 17:12:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • This post contains a lot of Sharks bias. Etzebeth, Habana, De Jongh, Vermeulen… These Stormers have clout. However I think the crucial difference between the Sharks and the Stormers is the partnerships… Whitehead-Jordaan, Pietersen-Ludik-Mvovo, Mtawarira-Burden-Du Plessis, Daniel-Alberts-Coetzee… These are partnerships that have been tested at SupeRugby even… Province don’t have these partnerships which could result in their ‘stars’ playing individualistically whilst the Sharks players will play as a team.

    Although, with province being written off they may just gel and play as a single unit.

  • Comment 17, posted at 26.10.12 17:51:13 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • Ah, the other crook. It’s quite funny. Sinclair punches Deysel, both on the bench. Holmes punches Botes, both are not in the 22.

    I still feel for Botes. He deserves to be in the match 22. I rather had Alberts as lock cover, Botes on the bench and have Sykes on a plane to PE.

  • Comment 18, posted at 26.10.12 17:51:22 by TRF_Ezequiel Reply

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  • Have just watched a re-run of the 2010 final. Very obvious we are going to miss Bizzie. Vermuelen saw his arse big time. Kanko owned him and it amazes me after his performance in front of PdV how Lambie did not become Bok 10.

    What ever happened to Riaan Swanepoel. Was wondering why he didn’t give Windham Solon a right klap after a cheap shot.

    Are we a better side than 2010…………..backline yes, although Strauss was huge. Kockett had a great game. Forwards yes as well, although I think we going to miss Bissie.

    Go sharks…………make us proud

  • Comment 19, posted at 26.10.12 18:13:15 by Bayshark Reply

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  • Going to watch the match tonight. As a warm-up. Already watched the reg. season matches of the past 3 seasons. Have to kill the time somehow ;)

  • Comment 20, posted at 26.10.12 18:37:30 by TRF_Ezequiel Reply

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  • Can’t agree more Bayshark, a young 20 year old comes out in a Currie Cup final plays a class game for his team scores 25 points, wins man of the match, wins the Currie Cup for his team . Two years later after a number of brilliant performances at number 10, just think 2 man of the match winning performances in the last two games after warming the bench for the Boks the whole Currie Cup season. You would have to be the worst national coach on the planet to miss that.

  • Comment 21, posted at 26.10.12 19:42:20 by markp Reply

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  • What is the weather like in Durban? Is it raining?

  • Comment 22, posted at 27.10.12 07:26:27 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I just feel that alberts and beast shouldve played of the bench…. but in fairness, how do you leave guys like that on the bench in a final.

  • Comment 23, posted at 27.10.12 09:13:24 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • LOL @ Coetzee and Deon tie.

    Cobus and Groom Tie.Not after Cobus recent performances.

  • Comment 24, posted at 27.10.12 09:23:45 by Honey Badger Reply

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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 23) : I think Plum will be hoping for a first 20mins. blitzkrieg same as 2010 final.

    Else it might well have been better to get their energy on the park with 30mins. to go.

    Let’s hope it pays off.

    Oh boy, I’m getting a bit nervous, you just never know what can happen in a final!

  • Comment 25, posted at 27.10.12 10:33:37 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Seems my matchups were pretty rubbish. When those young guns outplayed the sharks front rowers their only deficit was erased. And they won. What a great spectacle it was.

  • Comment 26, posted at 27.10.12 21:25:12 by Zandman Reply

     

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