Richard Ferguson

de Jongh replaces Taute for Scots


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 14 Nov 2012 at 12:20
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Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer has made two changes to the starting line-up for the match against Scotland with Gurthrö Steenkamp starting in the front row and Juan de Jongh getting his chance in midfield. The two replace CJ van der Linde and Jaco Taute respectively, who are both on the bench, with Pat Cilliers missing out on the match 23 altogether.

Pat Lambie will get another chance to prove his worth in the flyhalf jersey, and with the All Blacks showing the way last weekend, he might get more chance to run with the ball, and even let the ball go past him to the centres and wings.

The bench remains largely unchanged, with de Jongh’s spot on the wood taken by Taute and the two unused replacement from last weekend, Schalk Brits and Morne Steyn, hoping to get some game time this week.

The Springbok team to face Scotland in Edinburgh is:

15. Zane Kirchner
14. JP Pietersen
13. Juan de Jongh
12. Jean de Villiers (captain)
11. Francois Hougaard
10. Pat Lambie
9. Ruan Pienaar
8. Duane Vermeulen
7. Willem Alberts
6. Francois Louw
5. Juandré Kruger
4. Eben Etzebeth
3. Jannie du Plessis
2. Adriaan Strauss
1. Gurthrö Steenkamp

Replacements:
16. Schalk Brits
17. Heinke van der Merwe
18. CJ van der Linde
19. Flip van der Merwe
20. Marcell Coetzee
21. Morné Steyn
22. Jaco Taute
23. Lwazi Mvovo



46 Comments

  • great . now i have no reason to watch the rugby this weekend …

  • Comment 1, posted at 14.11.12 12:22:41 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 1) : I stopped watching rugby after the currie cup final.

    I rather just read the results on Monday mornings, better for my hart and having a healthy long life.

  • Comment 2, posted at 14.11.12 12:29:06 by Uli Reply
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  • This is a scary stat:

    Only Jean de Villiers, Francois Hougaard and Jannie du Plessis will have started in all Springbok test matches in 2012.

    Continuity in team selection is a big problem. And I am also shocked that Hougaard has managed to start all matches without doing anything significant in any of them.

  • Comment 3, posted at 14.11.12 12:34:23 by Orelando_G Reply

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  • @Zibbie (Comment 1) :

    Other than Zane Kirchner, what other change would you like to see?

  • Comment 4, posted at 14.11.12 12:40:58 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Orelando_G (Comment 3) :

    I think in a time where so much rugby is being played, it is necessary that players have to sit out matches..

    That said, I would have like to see JdV take a break, but as captain, he can’t exactly take a week off..

    As for Hougie starting every match, are you sure about that?

  • Comment 5, posted at 14.11.12 12:42:17 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Orelando_G (Comment 3) :

    Apologies, he did start every match..

    Somehow I thought he was on the bench for the one match..

  • Comment 6, posted at 14.11.12 12:43:46 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 2) :

    And now that i dont have a super rugby team any more my garden will look majestic …

  • Comment 7, posted at 14.11.12 12:44:16 by Zibbie Reply
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  • So the OBVIOUS question….AGAIN – Why is Hougaard still starting at 11? :?: :?:

    Because of his superior speed? – superior to whom?
    Superior defense? – Ja I don’t think so, he probably has no missed tackle stats ’cause the players are able to run that easily around him.
    So what does he offer??? :evil:

    Once again HM and his so-called assistant coaches are so out of their depth, and our national team is paying their school fees? :shock:

    Oh please, will this madness ever stop :twisted:

  • Comment 8, posted at 14.11.12 12:49:13 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Still no Elton on the bench :sad:

  • Comment 9, posted at 14.11.12 12:58:14 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 7) : hehe, no Kings for you? ;)

  • Comment 10, posted at 14.11.12 12:58:43 by Uli Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 5) : I agree but I think that they should be taking breaks at a franchise/provincial level so that they are fit for the national side.

    I just find it strange that HM started off letting each player supposedly know where they stand. I thought he would have a clear idea of who he wanted to play and he would stick with that. If he truly believed JJ Engelbrecht or Jacques Potgieter were boks, he should stick with them and not chop and change otherwise he is doubting himself and if he doesn’t know what he is doing, how are the players to know.

  • Comment 11, posted at 14.11.12 13:09:25 by Orelando_G Reply

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  • @Orelando_G (Comment 11) : I agree 100%

  • Comment 12, posted at 14.11.12 13:10:55 by Uli Reply
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  • @Orelando_G (Comment 11) : I agree to a degree but surely we should allow him some room to rectify mistakes too? No coach is going to get it right all the time. I’m glad he didn’t stick to some of his beliefs (especially that Morne Steyn would mysteriously find form if he kept on starting him).

  • Comment 13, posted at 14.11.12 13:16:01 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 4) :

    i honestly dont know … everybody plays crap .. maybe just a new coach ?

  • Comment 14, posted at 14.11.12 13:24:12 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 10) :

    i would rather be finger mingled by a cow in my lower back area …

  • Comment 15, posted at 14.11.12 13:27:45 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 13) : I do agree with that, the same way I don’t think he should be persevering with Hougaard.

    I think if you give a player sufficient opportunity and they don’t perform, they should be dropped. At the moment however, players are getting dropped and promoted without any real justification.

    Keegan plays vs England and Argentina and then you never see him again? Burden carries tackle bags for 2 months and then doesn’t go on the EOYT. Elton is 2nd choice flyhalf against New Zealand, then the 1st choice gets injured and now he is 3rd choice. Players being continually selected out of position. It just seems a bit messy and confusing.

  • Comment 16, posted at 14.11.12 13:29:40 by Orelando_G Reply

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  • Maybe mvovo should play 9 next year. Then he can play 11 for bokke.

  • Comment 17, posted at 14.11.12 13:29:58 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 17) : you missed the critical aspect… he has to play 9 FOR THE BULLS

  • Comment 18, posted at 14.11.12 13:35:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 15) : kekekeke haven’t taught that much for some time haha!

  • Comment 19, posted at 14.11.12 13:47:22 by Uli Reply
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  • @Orelando_G (Comment 16) : “I think if you give a player sufficient opportunity and they don’t perform, they should be dropped. At the moment however, players are getting dropped and promoted without any real justification.”

    I’d like some more consistency from Meyer in that department too.

  • Comment 20, posted at 14.11.12 13:48:35 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Orelando_G (Comment 16) : After the Currie Cup final and semi-final I don’t think Burden can feel too aggrieved about not going on tour.

  • Comment 21, posted at 14.11.12 13:54:02 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 19) : laughed? :)

  • Comment 22, posted at 14.11.12 13:55:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 21) : Burden was always in there as a replacement for Chilli, so makes sense for him to miss out now that Chilli is back…

    Then again, Liebenberg is also out, so Brits has kind of leap-frogged Bruce from nowhere.

  • Comment 23, posted at 14.11.12 13:56:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : I wonder if Liebenberg would have toured if he was available?

  • Comment 24, posted at 14.11.12 14:02:28 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Orelando_G (Comment 3) : I read somewhere that Jannie has not missed a game that he was eligible to play in this year. If so its damn amazing.

  • Comment 25, posted at 14.11.12 14:58:39 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 25) : I think you might find he was benched at the start of the season by Plum for misbehaving after getting hitched.

  • Comment 26, posted at 14.11.12 15:08:43 by Shaz Reply
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  • @Shaz (Comment 26) : Hardly an appropriate punishment for getting shackled.

  • Comment 27, posted at 14.11.12 15:26:32 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 25) : I am not too sure about that but would love to find out how many games he has played this year. I do know he has played a lot and has played very well.

    Let’s hope the smiling tighthead can keep it going next year!

  • Comment 28, posted at 14.11.12 15:28:09 by Orelando_G Reply

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  • @Orelando_G (Comment 11) : If a player is playing well for his franchise, why should that franchise rest him on the off-chance that the Springbok management might see fit to use his services? Franchises have far more at stake than the national rugby union in terms of coaches having to deliver results, players having to perform and money having to be made… Take the Lions as a prime example of this. SARU is not about to be relegated if it fails to dish up the goods, and the chances of Meyer getting fired if he screws up are minimal compared to a provincial coach who consistently gets it wrong in the eyes of the powers that be.
    And then there’s the players themselves… None of them want to be rested at the start of the season, injuries notwithstanding. The plain fact is that the season is far too long and human bodies, no matter how well honed, cannot deal with the amount of workload our pro players are being expected to handle. This shows itself most plainly in the End of Year Tour. My feeling is that SupeRugby needs to be severely shortened and that a sensible rest period needs to be introduced between SupeRugby and Bok incoming tour schedules and before the start of the Rugby Championship and Currie Cup. That would make the EOYT easier to handle, even if a player was selected for every Test.

  • Comment 29, posted at 14.11.12 15:48:14 by Shaz Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 27) : Ho ho ho. Getting shackled is punishment enough, is it? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 30, posted at 14.11.12 15:51:21 by Shaz Reply
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  • @Shaz (Comment 30) :

    Not a very ‘environmentally friendly’ car that! :twisted:

  • Comment 31, posted at 14.11.12 15:58:14 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I agree that the season is too long, but let’s face it, it is not going to get any shorter.

    So for their own sake, franchises should look at operating more of a squad system and resting key players even if they are in good form. This will enable key players time to recover and help other players get more experience creating more depth. Franchises have got to plan their seasons better. It is no use going at a million percent every week and driving your best 15 into the ground only to be left with players with no experience when it really matters.

    In an ideal world, it would be best if Franchise coaches could manage their squads well enough so that by the time the finals of Super Rugby or Currie Cup are played, your key players are not burnt out and are available and your second string guys have enough experience to fill in if there is an emergency. The bok squads are usually selected around the same time as the finals and so the bok coach should then be able to select the best.

  • Comment 32, posted at 14.11.12 16:00:41 by Orelando_G Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 22) : haha yea…

  • Comment 33, posted at 14.11.12 16:16:38 by Uli Reply
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  • @Shaz (Comment 26) : yes – but even though he didn’t start, he still played

  • Comment 34, posted at 14.11.12 16:18:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 31) : Actually, it is! Because no one can afford it! :razz: :mrgreen: Eco conscious as I am, it does me in just looking at it. It is an object of lust!

  • Comment 35, posted at 14.11.12 16:20:53 by Shaz Reply
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  • @Shaz (Comment 30) : Slow, intoxicating poison. :grin:

  • Comment 36, posted at 14.11.12 16:21:38 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 36) : Bit like Sharks rugby then? :lol:

  • Comment 37, posted at 14.11.12 16:26:36 by Shaz Reply
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  • Whats the point in playing de Jongh if he’s not going to get any ball from de Villiers?

    I wonder if he’d have gotten the opportunity to make that game-changing break in the CC final if JdV had been playing?

  • Comment 38, posted at 14.11.12 16:41:04 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 38) : You just had to bring that try up :evil: :lol:

  • Comment 39, posted at 14.11.12 17:05:32 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • I really think Coetzee deserves a start and Alberts really deserves a break. Otherwise I think this is a good team. Consistent. Might have let Elton sit on the bench in place of M.Steyn. Taute will hopefully replace Kirchner and get a chance at fullback.

  • Comment 40, posted at 14.11.12 20:03:10 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 38) : Probably because the ball went 10 Catrakilis –> 13 De Jongh.

  • Comment 41, posted at 14.11.12 20:04:36 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • @The Sharks Sharkie (Comment 41) : Wonder if Lambie will give De Jongh a couple of old fashioned hospital passes to get him back for breaking all our hearts? :twisted:

  • Comment 42, posted at 15.11.12 06:57:57 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • Aussie gets 8 weeks for tip tackle.
    All Black gets 1 week for stamping on head.

    Really fair outcome!

  • Comment 43, posted at 15.11.12 07:59:08 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • Taute for Kirchner please. I was hoping Mvovo would get a run in place of Hougaard. Otherwise I think it is as expected. Nice to have De Jongh in the team. Would like to see Brits get a run just for the hell of it. He must be raring to go. I could have also accepted Alberts at lock and Coetzee at 7 to give us more mobility. Would weaken line outs a bit but Strauss is best thrower around so could get away with it.

  • Comment 44, posted at 15.11.12 09:10:22 by Amateur Reply

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  • I just wish HM would realise that he does not have the luxury of converting players to play different positions.

    He still has a franchise mentality and it hasn’t dawned on him that he does not have the luxury of working at age group level with future players.

    He’d be well advised to trust the structures in place at franchises and apply what they give him.

    He can’t, nor should he try to change the way they do things, it is working for three of the five SR franchises.

  • Comment 45, posted at 15.11.12 09:24:00 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Listening to Mallet going through the simplicity of Bok game plan on attack just showed how easy it is for the opposition to plan and defend against our attack.

    He had a wry smile on his face as it obviously dawned on everyone in the studio (and watching on tv, and every coach around the world) how juvenile our game plan actually is.

    Sad that he’s sitting on Boots & All able to exploit our Bok weaknesses with absolute ease, he should be the consultant coach to the Boks – like Henry for the Argies.

  • Comment 46, posted at 16.11.12 07:58:29 by FireTheLooser Reply

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