Richard Ferguson

Unchanged Bok team for England


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 21 Nov 2012 at 12:15
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The Springbok team to face England this Saturday has been announced, with the starting team unchanged from the one that did duty against Scotland last weekend, with two changes coming on the bench.

Pat Lambie gets another go at impressing, and this will in all likelihood be his toughest test as he faces the English.

The changes on the bench see Pat Cilliers coming in for CJ van der Linde and Elton Jantjies replacing Morné Steyn to potentially see his first bit of game time on this tour.

South Africa: 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Juan de Jongh, 12 Jean de Villiers (captain), 11 François Hougaard, 10 Pat Lambie, 9 Ruan Pienaar, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 François Louw, 5 Juandré Kruger, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Gurthrö Steenkamp.

Replacements: 16 Schalk Brits, 17 Heinke van der Merwe, 18 Pat Cilliers, 19 Flip van der Merwe, 20 Marcell Coetzee, 21 Elton Jantjies, 22 Jaco Taute, 23 Lwazi Mvovo.



12 Comments

  • kick and chase ….

  • Comment 1, posted at 21.11.12 12:17:26 by Zibbie Reply
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  • Good to see Jantjies on the bench, and no CJ (I know it is due to injury)

  • Comment 2, posted at 21.11.12 12:28:58 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • very relieved to see JP there

  • Comment 3, posted at 21.11.12 12:34:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • No change is a good thing actually.

    I could stomach a loss against the Paddys or the Scots; England is a non-negotiable win for me.

    Would love to the skop n donner come a cropper and have Meyer’s head on a platter (or at least a push towards a more progressive gameplan). But against England I’ll just be happy with a win. Any win. Even by a point. Even 7-6 with our only points coming from a penalty try. Anything. Just a win. Please!

  • Comment 4, posted at 21.11.12 12:48:04 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Would also love to see Schalk Brits get a half. England is his place to shine. He knows the conditions and the opposition players and has played Twickenham more than any other Bok!

  • Comment 5, posted at 21.11.12 12:49:05 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • I hope Lambie and all the backs for that matter forget everything HM,van Graan, Koen and co. have ‘taught’ them in the last couple of weeks and play their natural games.

  • Comment 6, posted at 21.11.12 12:59:05 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 6) : Amen to that!Give Taute a go for a half or so as well as Britz. :o

  • Comment 7, posted at 21.11.12 13:13:01 by markm Reply

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  • No MS anywhere in sight :shock:

    Which means no “insurance policy” – could this mean a bit more freedom for Lambie?…..yeah right :roll:

  • Comment 8, posted at 21.11.12 13:31:32 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • I kno Lambie wants to play 10 and thats hwre he needs to play. But unfortunately the problem with our backline is not 10 but 12! JDV’s passing and offloading game has become non-existent-he cant seem to pass anymore! So unless they skip 12 and move the ball straight to 13 im afraid we are not going to see many linebreaks or any decent attacking from our backline. i know its a big call but with the squad they have there, id move Lambie to 12 with Janjies at 10 in 2nd half. Outside of the squad and assuming Frans Steyn is injured- Meyer Bosman at 12 with an attacking 10 and quick 13 will create because of his passing game.

  • Comment 9, posted at 21.11.12 13:35:46 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 9) : I think moving Lambie to 12 with 25 – 30mins remaining could be a stroke of genius.

  • Comment 10, posted at 21.11.12 14:48:10 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • I think the players that’s there is good enough, but the plan isn’t.

    We need to see, better protection of the ball and the cleaner and more ball to the backs.

    I haven’t actually confirmed this, but I think the Boks rarely ever passes the ball more than 3 times a phase. Why does that matter? Because the first few passes are always more predictable and it’s only once you’ve managed to confuse the defense with a good line or a good step that you could put players into that extra space with one or two extra passes.

    Defensive lines are so good these days that unless there’s a bad tackle you rarely ever see a clean line break before a couple of passes or one good off load is made.

    I completely understand that HM would approach his first few games more conservatively, but he should not be doing this at the expanse of an expansive game. Once the base is set the players should feel backed by the coaches to throw a few more passes.

    We’ve been losing the ball in the contact and at the breakdown anyway, we might as well take a few more chances after Alberts and co has made a good run up the midfield and set up good front foot ball.

    If the Boks aren’t willing to do this, they will look stagnant with any number of players in the backline, including any of the All Blacks.

  • Comment 11, posted at 21.11.12 15:07:09 by Letgo Reply
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  • OK, so this might be a long post. I watched the Scotland match again last night. First with regard to early engagement. There was one early engagement penalty with the starting front row. I watched the scrum carefully and it was clearly an 8 man drive with the pack “hoping” to get the timing right, it was clear that everyone including the Number 8 all drove into the engagement and were horribly early, thus penalized. It was certainly not the fault of the props. All other early engagements came with the replacement props. CJ could not even stay on his feet, he really scrummed terribly. With the new 8 man bench, there is no need for a prop that can scrum on both sides like CJ, so makes much more sense to have a specialist TH and LH on the bench as we see for the England match.

    With regard to Lambie, and this is not a one sided supporter defending him, clearly he was playing to the coaches game plan. What I was impressed with is that he played that game plan as well as Morne Steyn does at his best, hence no more need for Steyn, even on the bench. Lambie has so much more ability than Steyn in other areas, ultimately I have no doubt he will be a much better 10 than Steyn. I certainly do not think that Goosen was any better than Lambie while playing for the Boks. I am pleasantly surprised that Lambie was given a chance in all three matches, I just wish he was given more freedom to expand his play.

    De Jongh is a better defender than Taute in my opinion. Last week Taute came out of his defensive line several times, he generally made the tackle, but if he misses tackles like he did against NZ in the Rugby Championships, he will put his team under extreme pressure. De Jongh holds his line and does not miss tackles.

    In my opinion, Hougaard is purely an impact player. He makes things happen with ball in hand, but does nothing to look for extra work. He should be used exclusively off the bench either as a scrumhalf or wing replacement.

    Vermuelen is a solid 8, but I would rather have an 8 that makes things happen, like a Kanko, Daniel and yes, I know I will get flak for this, but even a Spies.

  • Comment 12, posted at 21.11.12 16:42:39 by Dancing Bear Reply
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