Richard Ferguson

No exemption for Kings


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :EP Kings, Original Content, Super Rugby on 28 Jan 2013 at 08:23
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Even though an official announcement is yet to be made, SARU seem set to deny the Kings’ request of playing more than two foreign players in a match day 22.

A report was run in the Rapport yesterday stating that the SARU meeting held on Friday to finally decide on the Kings’ request came up with a big NO for the Kings.

Kings president Cheeky Watson spoke to Rugby15.co.za, stating that they will accept the decision and comply by the rules of the competition.

The Kings applied for exemption to the foreign player rule, which only allows two foreign players to be named in a match day 22. The Kings have a number of foreign players, but should this SARU ruling be true, the Kings will only be allowed to play two per weekend.

Super Rugby squad recently announced by the Kings:

Forwards:

Boetie Britz, Rynier Bernardo, David Bullbring, Kevin Buys, Cornell du Preez, Jacques Engelbrecht, Jaco Engels, Schalk Ferreira, Ross Geldenhuys, Lizo Gqoboka, Virgil Lacombe, Tomas Leonardi, Bandise Maku, Edgar Marutlulle, Mpho Mbiyozo, Darron Nell, Daniel Adongo, Devin Oosthuizen, Steven Sykes, Wimpie van der Walt, Luke Watson (captain)

Backs:

Demetri Catrakilis, Ronnie Cooke, Wesley Dunlop, Siyanda Grey, Johan Herbst, Michael Killian, SP Marais, Scott Mathie, Waylon Murray, Hadleigh Parkes, Sergeal Petersen, Marcello Sampson, Shakes Soyizwapi, Wayne Stevens, Andries Strauss, Elrich van Vuuren, Shaun Venter, Nicolas Vergallo, George Whitehead



14 Comments

  • So, SARU keeps shooting themselves in the foot? The way this has been handled from the start was damn embarrassing, but this is getting insane. One year and no dispensation to prove themselves? Sheesh.

  • Comment 1, posted at 28.01.13 08:31:16 by PTAShark Reply
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  • I am not a Kings fan, and I disagree with how they got in to Super Rugby, but SARU have really dealt them a raw deal.

    They only got confirmation of their involvement late in the year, so couldn’t recruit local players or overseas players.

    That being said, there is a certain amount of arrogance from Cheeky, so it’s hard to remain sympathetic.

  • Comment 2, posted at 28.01.13 08:33:15 by StevieS Reply
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  • I would have loved to see Adongo and Parkes getting a run, but playing Lacombe and Vergallo would prob b better they a bit thin at 2 and 9

  • Comment 3, posted at 28.01.13 08:46:45 by pierre_mackie Reply
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  • wow will the madness never end

  • Comment 4, posted at 28.01.13 09:04:35 by Poisy Reply
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  • start Monday morning rant …..

    i believe this is the correct action from SARU . The Kings got into Super ruby based on the amount of talent in the region . now they go on a buying spree ? how is this then different from what the Lions (would) have done .

    Its like me demanding to be a super model and when i show up for the photo shoot i tell them that they first have to give me 5 years to loose 50KG ..

  • Comment 5, posted at 28.01.13 10:02:56 by Zibbie Reply
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  • There was an interesting interview with Luke Watson on Sports Talk on 702 yesterday evening. Anyone catch it?

  • Comment 6, posted at 28.01.13 11:16:57 by vanmartin Reply
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  • The Kings were given enough rope to hang themselves with but not enough to weave a safety net with.

  • Comment 7, posted at 28.01.13 14:31:55 by King Shark Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 6) : Give us the highlights please? :smile:

  • Comment 8, posted at 28.01.13 14:32:31 by King Shark Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 5) : It would have helped the talent to develop if the could stay in the cup a couple of seasons. Let’s be honest, the Lions are back next year and then the year of Superrugby will have been for naught, as the few good players from the Kings will be snatched up by the bigger unions.

    I would have liked to see them granted the opportunity to have five players for the first year and reduce the number by one every season until they also only have two. That way you get the young regional talent to learn from the experienced guys.

    Face it, experience matters. A team with superb talent and no experience will not win against a talented but experienced team (as 14 of the Superrugby teams are).

  • Comment 9, posted at 28.01.13 14:36:50 by King Shark Reply
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  • @King Shark (Comment 8) : Didn’t catch the whole interview but really enjoyed the part I did. Highlights:
    - Luke is of the opinion that the way the Kings were given entry into Super Rugby is unfair towards the Lions
    - He pretty much apologised (in a personal capacity) to the Lions players for the way SARU handled the affair
    - He’s definitely troubled by the fact that there’s an “us vs them” feeling when it comes to the Lions and the Kings and reiterated the point a number of times that the he didn’t want the Kings to gain entry at the expense of the Lions
    - He’s however (obviously) not unhappy about the Kings being afforded a chance to play in Super Rugby and echoes what others have mentioned – the region needs representation at higher levels in order to keep promising players from moving to other provinces.

    I thought he came across as a very mature, considerate and most-importantly balanced person. The time away from home was time well spent in my opinion.

    Personal disclaimer: I like our coastal cousins and I wish them all the best. I didn’t like that Luke was used as a political pawn during Jake’s tenure. I thought he could have better phrased some of his comments during that infamous speech but still like Luke as a player and I’m of the opinion that bygones are bygones. Make of my post what you will but it’s not meant to incite arguments.

  • Comment 10, posted at 28.01.13 14:59:17 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @King Shark (Comment 9) : Sure experience matters . no one can argue with that .

    So you are telling me the Kings will not do what every other union in SA does ? Buy players …

    so with that in mind there is no difference between the Lions and the Kings .

    Where players who looked to make name for themselves would have gone to the Lions , they will now go to the Kings . Then one of the Sharks Bulls or Stormers will recruit the players … and nothing would have changed .

    My question is why will the Kings be different to the Lions ? personally i cant see any reason …

  • Comment 11, posted at 29.01.13 09:39:26 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 11) : We can argue all day but if one is not willing to consider a view beyond one’s own, then there is no reason to continue a debate. The reality is that we will now not be afforded the opportunity to see the Kings go through a renaissance as they are doomed from the outset.

    As for buying players – obviously they would too. Now, go and count how many Eastern Cape players are playing for the five big unions. Last time I went through this exercise with a mate of mine, we found 17 regular Superrugby starters that came from PE or East-London – more than the number of Pretorians. I think that makes a case for inclusion.

  • Comment 12, posted at 29.01.13 11:58:37 by King Shark Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 10) : Thanks bud. I caught some of it on Sport24 and on Planetrugby. Luke is everybody’s favourite villain but he is agood captain and a good player.

  • Comment 13, posted at 29.01.13 11:59:44 by King Shark Reply
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  • @King Shark (Comment 12) :

    im willing to change my mind . i just need to be convinced .

    But one must look at the stats holistically . At some stage last year when the sharks played the Lions the Lions had more players from durban the players from Jozi and the sharks had more players from jozi than Durban.

    I would be very surprised if the stats is different for any other franchises .

    I remember Rob or Richard did a count at some stage in the CC . HE counted 22 sharks academy players playing for other provinces through the Curie cup .

    the question in my mind is how will the Kings be competitive ?

    the answer is they need to develop AND retain players .

    for me the Lions and the Cheetahs has proven that super rugby status on its own does not guarantee that players will stay in your region.

    IF you look at the amount of school boys the Bulls bought this season . The Kings might have the most talented school boys in the world in the region . Once the Bulls come knocking they are gone .

  • Comment 14, posted at 29.01.13 14:38:47 by Zibbie Reply
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