Richard Ferguson

SARU get it wrong again


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Bulls, EP Kings, Lions, Original Content, Sharks, Stormers, Super Rugby on 30 Jan 2013 at 08:39
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The men in charge of South African rugby seem dead set on making life as complicated for themselves as possible, with another logistical blunder awaiting us once the Super Rugby league stage is complete.

SARU has announced that the promotion/relegation match in which the Lions will play against the lowest finishing South African franchise for a spot in next year’s competition, is to be played over the same weekend as that of the Super Rugby play-offs.

If it hasn’t clicked yet, that would mean that loaned Lions players plying their trade at other Unions, would have to return to the Lions before the actual completion of the Super Rugby tournament, to represent their union in the all-important match.

Now the Sharks are in a position that they would lose the on loan Franco van der Merwe at a critical point in the competition, while the Stormers would lose Jaco Taute and Martin Bezuidenhout should he still be in the Cape, and the Bulls Callie Visagie and Lionel Mapoe.

All three those teams have a pretty good chance of being involved in the last few weekends of Super Rugby and it could be a huge blow to their momentum if they suddenly have to change combinations and bring in second choice players. One has to wonder whether these teams would have loaned the players had they known this move back at a critical stage of the tournament was on the cards.

You would notice that the players above specifically exclude Elton Jantjies. Only once I started digging (thank you Mr Otto) did it come about that Jantjies signed a Super Rugby contract with the Stormers that will keep him there until the completion of the Super Rugby tournament.

This raises the question – Why did the other teams not think of this, and more importantly, if the Stormers did think of this, why did they not sign Jaco Taute on a similar deal?

One can only speculate as to what happened behind closed doors, but there are numerous reasons that Jantjies’ deal is so different from the others, but I will leave that thinking up to you…



25 Comments

  • Saru seems to have no budget for thinking caps :roll:

  • Comment 1, posted at 30.01.13 08:45:49 by SteelShark Reply
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  • This is absalutely stupid from SARU and I will put money on it that the dates will change yet again. Even if Jantjies signed a super Rugby contract with the stormers, I am sure the Lions counted on having him back for the promotion / relegation game.

    Well done SARU on showing yet again how useless you can be!

  • Comment 2, posted at 30.01.13 08:46:43 by Viking Reply
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  • Ha – I’ll be keeping an eye on my email inbox to see how well this headline goes down :)

    I guess they’ll argue that with the calendar as crowded as it is, there simply isn’t any other window to fit these games in. At least they know that the team playing against the Lions won’t be in the knockouts….

  • Comment 3, posted at 30.01.13 08:51:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • Elton has a clause in his Lions contract that allows him to play for another franchise if the Lions don’t play SR so his deal with the Stormers isn’t a loan deal and was negotiated between him and the Stormers. The other players’ deals were loan deals negotiated between the Lions and the franchises, obviously in consultation with the players

  • Comment 4, posted at 30.01.13 08:54:09 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Viking (Comment 2) : Unfortunately there are no other dates available.

    The SR final is on 3 Aug, the CC starts the next weekend (10/8) and the Rugby Championships the one following (17/8)

  • Comment 5, posted at 30.01.13 09:17:54 by Baylion Reply

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  • I have to ask what happens if 4th and 5th place end on the same points difference? Is there any rules regarding who comes last?

  • Comment 6, posted at 30.01.13 09:29:57 by shaniboi Reply

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  • @shaniboi (Comment 6) : I doubt that has been discussed and I doubt anybody will be able to beat the Kings to the wooden spoon? :twisted:

  • Comment 7, posted at 30.01.13 09:37:21 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @shaniboi (Comment 6) :
    Tie breaking rules

    In the event of two or more teams being equal on competition points for any position on either the Conference or Super Rugby Standings tables, either during or at the end of the season, such position will be decided upon using the following steps until the tie is broken:

    (a) Most wins from all matches;
    (b) Highest aggregate points difference from all matches;
    (c) Most tries from all matches;
    (d) Highest aggregate difference of total tries for versus tries scored against from all matches;
    (e) Coin toss.

  • Comment 8, posted at 30.01.13 09:39:02 by Baylion Reply

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  • Elton had a clause in his contract allowing him to sign that kind of contract . Obviously the Lions want the players back so thats why they did not allow the other players to sign similar contracts …

    simple really :P

  • Comment 9, posted at 30.01.13 09:42:06 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Viking (Comment 2) :

    No they have not . Kevin De Klerk is well aware of this ;) (would you believe that ?)

  • Comment 10, posted at 30.01.13 09:43:06 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Baylion (Comment 5) : So in other words SARU did not get it wrong then and utilised the only possible date available.

    @robdylan (Comment 3) : If the above is correct then you deserve the email. :twisted:

  • Comment 11, posted at 30.01.13 10:38:35 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Well as Sharks supporters, if there is one thing we should know by now, it is to stick with the team that got you through the season in the first place.

    I can’t see the Lions having to rely on their A-list players to be able to beat the Kings.

    Those A-list players will be a disruption to the team as hardly any of the current Lions squad have played with them.

  • Comment 12, posted at 30.01.13 10:44:01 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Wel it seems like SARU is not alone in the strugle to find time for other matches. Readin on Rugby 365 the ausie franchises are now moaning about a 3week camp before the BIL tour. It seems that there is no time for anything other than SANZAR.

  • Comment 13, posted at 30.01.13 11:28:32 by Viking Reply
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  • saru did get it wrong as the knew they had to fit in these promotion/relegation match as this game was created by them and they determine when the Currie Cup starts. The problem is Super rugby is to LONG!!!!!!! and should not continue after the June/July tests and yet again saru is to blame cause they agreed to make the season longer.

  • Comment 14, posted at 30.01.13 16:31:24 by JD Reply
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  • @Baylion (Comment 5) : Why does it have to be played immediately after the Super Rugby season? Why not have the match at the end of the year?

  • Comment 15, posted at 30.01.13 23:29:44 by TRF_Ezequiel Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 4) : Dude, I’ve got a t-shirt with the exact design on it as your avatar. :grin:

  • Comment 16, posted at 31.01.13 18:14:47 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 16) : A Lion at heart? :lol:

  • Comment 17, posted at 01.02.13 06:35:56 by Baylion Reply

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  • @TRF_Ezequiel (Comment 15) : Many players’ contracts expire at the end of Oct after the CC. Then there’s still the EOYT. Not feasable.

  • Comment 18, posted at 01.02.13 06:41:35 by Baylion Reply

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  • In other news:

    Blitzbokke scrape into NZ 7′s qtr. finals. Losing first to Samoa and then to….shock horror…Canada.

    We managed to beat Wales 21 – 0, and thus went through on points difference.

    Given, we are without our two play makers (Cecil and Bronco) and Captain Kyle. But our 7′s game plan pretty much falls apart when Cecil is not playing.

    So, is it time yet for a new coach….one Neil Powell is making serious inroads as a sevens coach. First winning the Cape Town sevens and now most recently taking the junior 7′s Bokkies to victory WC victory in OZ.

  • Comment 19, posted at 01.02.13 11:10:46 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • How did the Blitzbokke get this bad? Remember when the team had Kabamba Floors, Vuyo Zanqa, Phillip Burger,Schalk vd Merwe < Jonothan Mokuena and Stefan Basson – Yaso they were on fire

  • Comment 20, posted at 01.02.13 12:04:47 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 20) : I don’t think it’s that we got that bad, the rest of the world has just been catching up due to 7′s inclusion in the Olympics.

    We just haven’t changed and we’re pretty much still doing that which worked 5 years ago for us.

    True did a lot for our 7′s with the structures he implemented, but I think he needs to pass the baton on.

    Get True to implement his 7′s structures throughout the country, especially club and franchise level.

  • Comment 21, posted at 01.02.13 12:13:53 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 21) : Not sure if i agree completely.

    Yes Treu has done plenty for our 7s structures, that will not be contested but for the longest time he has been picking school leavers in the backs and forwards that don’t offer much.

    You could argue that he is building towards the Olympics but then why chop and change the squad all the time?It also cant be wise to put all your eggs in the Olympic basket

  • Comment 22, posted at 01.02.13 12:43:16 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 22) : I’d like to see Neil Powell stepping into the head coach position.

    He was able to beat star studded teams during the Cape Town sevens with his team of nobodies and won the junior tourney in Oz.

    So yeah, time for a new coach.

  • Comment 23, posted at 01.02.13 14:37:32 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 17) : Rasta at heart. :grin:

  • Comment 24, posted at 01.02.13 18:14:02 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 20) : The SA 7′s group has never been constant performers and they probably never will be. There are way too few big guys with speed and skill and the majority of players have a 15-man mentality.

  • Comment 25, posted at 01.02.13 18:17:01 by rhineshark Reply
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