robdylan

Looking for a leader


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 6 Feb 2013 at 10:59
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So how much, exactly, has Frans Steyn grown up during his time in France? That’s the question that John Plumtree seems to have an answer to, but the rest of us don’t.

Let’s not beat around the bush – selecting Frans Steyn as captain for the first warm-up and in so doing sending a clear marker that Steyn is seen as a potential alternate captain for the season is an unexpected step, particularly for those Sharks fans who remember Steyn as the “petulant and wilful child” who left the Sharks in a bit of a huff three years ago. I think it’s fair to say that most of us, based on “that perception” of Steyn (whether true or not), wouldn’t consider him a particularly sound choice as a captain. Incidents such as the set of howlers towards the end of the 2007 Super 14 final, which arguably cost the Sharks the title, would tend to reinforce this position.

We’re told that he’s grown up, matured and changed and that he’s now a senior player, ready to take on more responsibility in the team. For Plumtree, having a guaranteed starter as an alternate captain gives him plenty of options; for one, he can mix and match his loose trio (where he has ridiculous depth) without always needing to have Keegan Daniel among the starters. Identifying another loose forward as stand-in skipper ties his hands, especially if either Jacques Botes or Jean Deysel, neither of whom is a likely starter, were to get the nod.

All of this sounds great in theory, but to my way of thinking, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. We’re never going to know if Steyn has what it takes to captain this side unless we give him the chance and Friday’s warm-up provides that opportunity. Furthermore, the fact that none of the really strong, established leaders among the forwards will be starting the game, makes it even more vital for Steyn to take a firm grip on proceedings, without a Daniel, Alberts, du Plessis to fall back on. As “sink or swim” goes, it should be a pretty good test.

The major unanswered question here, though, is “why Steyn instead of Lambie?”. That’s not something that I have enough information to even attempt to answer; we’re not sure if Lambie is at all interested in the job, for one thing and perhaps his goal for the season is to concentrate on his own play at flyhalf, rather than taking on vice captaincy as well.



39 Comments

  • I think it’s a good thing. It shows the coaches has faith in Steyn, and I’m sure he’ll do great. I expect at least one weird call from his part! I’m sure Lambie wants to focus on his game and become recognised as the best flyhalf in the country.

    Is the game going to be televised?

  • Comment 1, posted at 06.02.13 11:04:03 by PTAShark Reply
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  • Yeah I also think Lambie will be given this year to concentrate purely on playing fly-half, without the added burden of captaining the side.

    Next year should see Lambie stepping up as VC.

    For me, it’s a wise decision.

  • Comment 2, posted at 06.02.13 11:06:18 by FireTheLooser Reply
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  • He sure has matured a lot apparently. To be able to be named captain, a player certainly must have the passion to really do good as a team. TEAM, and not as individual. Sounds good for the Sharks.

  • Comment 3, posted at 06.02.13 11:16:21 by JustPlainSHARK Reply
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  • Give Frans a chance_see what I did there :lol:

  • Comment 4, posted at 06.02.13 11:23:08 by Talent Reply
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  • i think people are reading way to much into this

  • Comment 5, posted at 06.02.13 11:25:04 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 5) : I agree.

  • Comment 6, posted at 06.02.13 11:30:07 by Ben Reply

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  • I think that the captain must be in a certain way popular against his team mates also. Is it the case with Steyn? What will happen if the captain gets hurt in a big clash and is Steyn then the right one to take over at that minute? I think that Lambie has got the personality and the calmness on the field and is popular. Even Botes would be a good choice. But … lets see

  • Comment 7, posted at 06.02.13 11:34:54 by springbok Reply

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  • Wil the match be on tv ? And i think lambie wil be the sharks future cappy .

  • Comment 8, posted at 06.02.13 12:18:54 by johnny Reply

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  • Wil the match be on tv ? And i think lambie wil be the sharks future cappy ..

  • Comment 9, posted at 06.02.13 12:19:52 by johnny Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 6) : guess who got his law degree :)

  • Comment 10, posted at 06.02.13 12:20:22 by Poisy Reply
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  • I am glad that Fransie is getting a shot at it. I read the arti in SARugby of him last year and it really seemed like he grew as a player and as a person a lot while being oversees. This will really be the test of how much. One thing I can give him is that he does not get involved in off the ball incidents and he is a person willing to take responsibility.

  • Comment 11, posted at 06.02.13 12:22:42 by Viking Reply
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  • @springbok (Comment 7) : They have tried Botes before, and he reall did not relish the experience, and if I remember correctly even stated so in public. Lambie, needs to concentrate on his role as FH this year, not have the added responsibility of captaining the side should Keegs get injured/rested. Lambie will be Cpt, just not this year.

  • Comment 12, posted at 06.02.13 12:24:02 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Poisy (Comment 10) : Awesomeness! Well done bud!

  • Comment 13, posted at 06.02.13 12:26:14 by Ben Reply

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  • Perhaps Plum wanted a ‘senior’ player to Captain this fairly young side for this game? I agree – my take would be Lambie, but I am actually excited to see Fransie being captain. One needs to think if some sort of phsycology also went into this….you know – I have seen it before. Give the “wild child”some responsibility and they take to that challenge like a house on fire – sometimes rebellious just because they want to prove themselves albeit in the wrong way, but nevertheless.

    From what I read – Frans is very popular amongst the players too…

  • Comment 14, posted at 06.02.13 12:44:09 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 14) : Ja same thing happened with Keegan, he used to be a bit of a trouble maker on the field and seemed a hard player to lead. Then voila, he’s made captain and is suddenly in the best form we’ve ever seen him.

  • Comment 15, posted at 06.02.13 12:51:52 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Poisy (Comment 10) : congratulations Poisy!!!! Well done! Now hurry up and get your articles and bar axam under your belt so I can hire you as my defence attorney when I throttle my eldest son!!! :twisted:

  • Comment 16, posted at 06.02.13 13:19:57 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Poisy (Comment 10) : congrats bud!

  • Comment 17, posted at 06.02.13 13:28:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 14) : I think he grew up a lot…. because when he left, he wasn’t popular. I overheard Jannie duP say that. Jannie’s words were “I know most other people don’t agree, but I’m going to miss Fransie”.

  • Comment 18, posted at 06.02.13 13:29:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • And so he follows ever further in Percy’s footsteps…

  • Comment 19, posted at 06.02.13 13:53:16 by Seaton Reply

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  • I am wondering if you are just wanting to stir the pot a bit Rob – because your memory isn’t usually so selective.
    BTW….Frans for VICE President – I like Keegan as the Captain, think the chap has earned his stripes.

  • Comment 20, posted at 06.02.13 14:16:20 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • Wow, all these people wanting Lambie as captain. I ask this question, his playing ability is never in question, nor his ability to read the game. But what has he shown that would make you think he is going to be a good leader and captain? I venture to say nothing yet. Keegan was, before being appointed captain already showing leadership among the pack, often seen in the middle of the huddle exhorting his players on. He showed leadership before being appointed captain. So again I ask, how has Lambie exhibited this kind of leadership? Let the young man become the best flyhalf in the world. Dan Carter never had to be captain to be the best.

  • Comment 21, posted at 06.02.13 15:02:57 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 21) : Hi DB!

    I have seen many a time when Lambie commanded the backline – talking to the players – giving instructions. He is in complete control, he has the calmness. and he is not afraid of communicating to the seniors. He is quite comfortable. I think he will make a good captain – the fact that DC has never been Captain is irrelevant. You can be the best and be the best Captain too.

  • Comment 22, posted at 06.02.13 15:08:22 by Ice Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 21) : Come to thik of it – I have never thought of DC as a Captain…he just dont strike me as one…where Lambie does. Call it womans 6th sense! ;-)

  • Comment 23, posted at 06.02.13 15:10:09 by Ice Reply
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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 20) : how do you mean?

  • Comment 24, posted at 06.02.13 15:11:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 22) : Hi Icey! Flyhalfs are supposed to lead the backline, it is the job of a flyhalf. Just because he does this well, does not mean he will be a good captain. DC also leads the backline as well or better than Lambie, but he is not captain material. Sorry, just think Lambie is too young for the additional pressure, and he has not shown me that he is ready to be a captain. Let him concentrate on becoming the best flyhalf.

  • Comment 25, posted at 06.02.13 15:24:42 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 25) :

    Howzit DB? How are thing over there is the US of A?

  • Comment 26, posted at 06.02.13 16:14:18 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 13) : thanx man :)

  • Comment 27, posted at 06.02.13 21:21:31 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 16) : thanx :) a case can be made for temporary insanity if he’s a bulls or stormers supporter :wink:

  • Comment 28, posted at 06.02.13 21:23:32 by Poisy Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 17) : thank you rob :mrgreen: how about 10points for that so i can get closer to my 4th star?

  • Comment 29, posted at 06.02.13 21:26:46 by Poisy Reply
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  • Rob, are you ever going to get over FS and the 2007 final?
    Be reminded there was 14 other players on the field that day too ;)

  • Comment 30, posted at 07.02.13 08:21:23 by Uli Reply
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  • BTW kings use the same kit as the sharks now… WTF
    http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Super15/Kings-go-all-black-at-home-20130206

  • Comment 31, posted at 07.02.13 08:46:32 by Uli Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 31) : That must be the UGLIEST logo in sports ever! :shock:

    Let’s hope their official SR jersey looks better than that.

  • Comment 32, posted at 07.02.13 09:13:18 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • I know how am beginning to sounds like a struck tape recorder, but looking at a future captain, keep an eye on Allan Dell if he makes the step up successfully. He’s definitely the type of leader the Sharks would thrive under

  • Comment 33, posted at 07.02.13 09:16:46 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 33) : Do you perhaps have a little “man crush” on Dell :lol:

  • Comment 34, posted at 07.02.13 09:22:41 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Poisy (Comment 28) : :lol: unfortunately for me, all my boys have been brought up, brainwashed and if they wished to eat support the Black and white cause! I am afraid that they are staunch Sharks Fans all three! :)

  • Comment 35, posted at 07.02.13 09:23:39 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 34) : there’s nothing little about it :)

  • Comment 36, posted at 07.02.13 09:29:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 31) : Whamo, an original brainwave washed over the Eastern Cape like a tsunami.

    “Lets make our home jerseys black and our away jerseys white”

    Genius

  • Comment 37, posted at 07.02.13 09:44:24 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 36) : @FireTheLooser (Comment 34) : hahaha, just admiration for a promising young player who just happens to be a very good friend gentlemen

  • Comment 38, posted at 07.02.13 09:57:31 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 35) : we can always plant some evidence i.e bulls tshirt,than you can say you were performing an exorcism he was possesed by bulls demon :mrgreen:

  • Comment 39, posted at 07.02.13 10:54:54 by Poisy Reply
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