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Sharks player ratings v Rebels


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 25 Mar 2013 at 08:00
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The Sharks recorded a 64-7 drubbing of an horrendously weak Rebels team on Saturday. While the opposition wasn’t up to much, you can only play what’s in front of you and it was particularly pleasing to see the Sharks stick to their guns and fine-tune their own game.

In the context of a team performance that warrants an 8/10, despite the quality of opposition, let’s see how the players stacked up.

1. Beast Mtawarira. Wonderful in the scrums, where he killed Laurie Weeks. No slouch in the loose either, also a few more carries wouldn’t have gone amiss. 8/10
2. Kyle Cooper. His best game in a Sharks jersey to date. Set piece work was flawless and he was all over the park too. The try was the cherry on top. 9/10
3. Wiehahn Herbst. A destructive scrummaging display coupled with some lovely supporting touches, where his great hands were put to good use. Some big hits on defence too. 8/10
4. Pieter-Steph du Toit. Quite possibly the best player on the pitch for the first hour. Carried and hassled the opposition with an assurance that belied his years, all the while maintaining high standards in his primary tasks. If he can stay injury free, he’ll win a Bok place on this kind of form. 9/10
5. Franco van der Merwe. I’m battling a little with Franco, to be honest. While he did a lot more in this game than in the past, I’m not seeing enough to warrant leaving a home-grown youngster out for him. Lineout work was great though, but did little with ball in hand. 7/10
6. Jacques Botes. The sort of game tailor-made for the veteran flanker, with a strong tight-five giving him a platform to showcase his skills and versatility. 8/10
7. Marcell Coetzee. Played very well for the time he was on the field and it was particularly pleasing to see him attacking space and offloading, rather than simply bulldozing. 8/10
8. Keegan Daniel. Showed the benefit of an extra week’s fitness and turned in a very credible all-round performance, reminiscent of his best form. 8/10

9. Cobus Reinach. A week on the bench did him the world of good, it seems, with only a silly tip tackle, which earned a yellow card, detracting from a top-drawer display. 8/10
10. Pat Lambie. Battled with line and place kicking into the wind, but the rest of his game was of a high quality, including some good distribution and solid tackling as always. 8/10
11. Lwazi Mvovo. In a game where the forwards had a lot more ball than the backs, Lwazi worked hard and made a few good sniping runs. Would have expected him to get amongst the try-scorers, though. 7/10
12. Meyer Bosman. An outstanding performance from the oft-maligned Bosman, whose distribution and reading of the game are second to none. 9/10
13. Paul Jordaan. Some great pressure work on defence, but had few chances to showcase his fancy footwork with ball in hand. 7/10
14. JP Pietersen. I can’t shake the feeling that JP simply hasn’t “got into” this season. He appears to be coasting and in a game when he would have been expected to run riot, was actually rather quiet. 6/10
15. Louis Ludik. Another solid performance from the most consistent Shark, with two great tries to boot. 8/10

16. Craig Burden. Another player who’s yet to find his mojo this season. Would have expected him to run riot in the last quarter, yet that didn’t happen. 6/10
17. Jannie du Plessis. My money was on the big Bok scoring his first-ever Super Rugby try. Jannie apparently had other ideas, though, leading me to believe he was mentally still with his wife and infant daughter. Did a holding job, no more. 6/10
18. Jandre Marais. Appeared to be trying a bit too hard, leading to some indisciplined play and ultimately, not the impact he would have liked. 6/10
19. Ryan Kankowski. A great game, even playing out of position at flank. Kanko is running hot this year and will only get better. 8/10
20. Charl McLeod. Tried to play the game faster than even he was able to keep up with, resulting in far too many individual errors. 6/10
21. Frans Steyn. A simply incredible bit of defence kept the Rebels out when they looked sure to score. Still tried to do far too much on his own on attack, but there were some encouraging signs. 7/10
22. Riaan Viljoen. Scored the simplest of tries, but otherwise battled to find much rhythm in a patchwork backline. 7/10



58 Comments

  • Very happy! The Sharks finally put away opponents to their full potential! No running up a big score and then sitting back and defending it.

    Great weekends fishing and then the Sharks play an amazing game :mrgreen:

  • Comment 1, posted at 25.03.13 08:05:21 by StevieS Reply
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  • After Saturdays performance I don`t see another start for Frans ” Tubs ” Steyn in the near future . . .
    Go Bosman! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 2, posted at 25.03.13 08:27:22 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 2) : Bosman was superb, particularly on defence.

  • Comment 3, posted at 25.03.13 08:29:06 by StevieS Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 2) : weren’t you one of Bosman’s most vocal critics just a season or two back?

  • Comment 4, posted at 25.03.13 08:33:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • Can we rate Lourens vd Merwe? I’ll give him 2/10.

  • Comment 5, posted at 25.03.13 08:35:57 by SteelShark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : Yes I was, the season he started with us.
    Think he hit top form last year and still believe we would`ve won the CC if he was on the field.

  • Comment 6, posted at 25.03.13 08:41:26 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • Ray Mordt having a real go at the Sharks on IOL.

  • Comment 7, posted at 25.03.13 08:49:03 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 7) : What did he say?

  • Comment 8, posted at 25.03.13 08:50:41 by StevieS Reply
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  • Atmosphere in the stands felt like a carnival. Thought I was in the 90s again. Is PSDT the next big thing? yebo

  • Comment 9, posted at 25.03.13 08:52:34 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @SteelShark (Comment 5) : I don”t think there is a rating scale he could possibly be rated on. -1/10 might just do it! :twisted:

  • Comment 10, posted at 25.03.13 08:57:53 by markm Reply

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  • @StevieS (Comment 8) : In a nutshell – reckon the Sharks of 2013 play a very conservative bashing game that will only work if your forwards dominate totally. Saying players such as Coetzee and Alberts are not encouraged to bring other aspects of their game into play – easy to turn over in the end.

    Blames it on coaching in the end.

  • Comment 11, posted at 25.03.13 08:59:30 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • We must give Bosman credit for the way he play at the moment. You can see he talks on the field all the time, so the backline also know what to do. I hope they give him as nr 12 for the next game, bacause they said on Saturday that it was his 99 game. For a player on 27 and a 100 super rugby games must say something.

  • Comment 12, posted at 25.03.13 08:59:42 by springbok Reply

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  • Seeing Beast pack down at the side of the scrum was something to behold! And it looked like he enjoyed it too!

    Also, first SR try ever for the big man, well done to him.

    BEEEEAAAAASSSSSSTTTTT

  • Comment 13, posted at 25.03.13 09:03:26 by Die Kriek Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : I’ve never been the biggest fan of Bosman, but he really came to the party and he’s showed up Frans Steyn big time with some solid attacking play, good defense and great goal-kicking. Having a reliable back-up to Lambie’s boot is vital for the Sharks on tour. Will he be the Sharks most improved player this season? Let’s see.

  • Comment 14, posted at 25.03.13 09:06:39 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @SteelShark (Comment 5) : Ja, the ref was a showpony. “Okay, I’ve seen it on the screen, let me handle this!” Heh-heh

  • Comment 15, posted at 25.03.13 09:09:20 by CapeShark Reply
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  • The Crusaders will now be without Read and Carter for the SA trip.

  • Comment 16, posted at 25.03.13 09:10:37 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 11) : I thought we showed just the opposite on Saturday. We moved the ball away from contact after sufficiently drawing in the defence.

  • Comment 17, posted at 25.03.13 09:17:53 by StevieS Reply
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  • Ok so our Fickle SHarks fans are back to showing themselves again.

    Lets get rid of Frans, Lets get rid of This one and that one, should we start a new lets get rid of PLum FB page??

    Arhggggg it is what puts me off Sharks supporters…. Never freeking satisfied, always finding fault, we can scsore 100 points and there will be those shouting poor play from the rooftops.

    SO Steyn is in a bit of poor form, Lambie has not been that bright so should we get rid of him?? or is he still flavour of the month?

    FFS people Support the team, and that means all it’s contents.

    It seems Frans Steyn is still hated on rumours from 5 years ago?? Build a bridge and get over i, no other team has suporters that so quickly turn against their own team or some of it’s players.

  • Comment 18, posted at 25.03.13 09:28:56 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 17) : I think he was not commenting on the Rebels game as such – rather the games before.

    We did some good things against the Rebels – much better support play for example. We created a lot of momentum by players picking up the ball at the back of rucks and running up the middle. One needs to take the quality of the opposition into account, but at least we played a lot better too.

    However the question to me is how we will play in the next 2 big games against quality opposition – Crusaders and Stormers. The Crusaders are starting to look like the easier one of the two.

  • Comment 19, posted at 25.03.13 09:31:49 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 18) : :shock:

  • Comment 20, posted at 25.03.13 09:54:56 by Poisy Reply
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  • Great team performance. PSDT and Cooper were phenomenal in getting us over the gainline.

    Rob, I think you are wearing your homegrown heart on your sleeve regarding Generaal Franco. I think he has been very good all season. He adds calm, does the basics well and is the perfect foil to our strike runners and ball-carriers. I think he was a great acquisition.

  • Comment 21, posted at 25.03.13 10:00:55 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 18) :

    In the words of Metallica

    Sad but True!!

  • Comment 22, posted at 25.03.13 10:01:58 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 20) : :shock:

  • Comment 23, posted at 25.03.13 10:03:04 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 11) : Ray Mordt, apart from being a legend as a player, is also a very astute rugby critic. I have read what he had to say about the Sharks deficiencies this season and there isn’t one aspect of it that I disagree with. I’m pretty sure what he wrote was done before the Rebels game and to some extent some of the issues he raises were addressed there. It will be how the Sharks choose to play against the sterner opposition in our next run of matches that will be the acid test of their commitment to a more expansive gameplan, IMO.

  • Comment 24, posted at 25.03.13 10:16:10 by Greg Reply

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  • I’d like to see what PSDT / Bresler combo would look like too.

  • Comment 25, posted at 25.03.13 10:35:40 by Ice Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 18) : We care and want what is best for the team… Will the players be sitting back and thinking “We have done as well as we possibly have could, there is nothing to work on”? I hope not, and luckily I don’t think they will either. I reckon many of the subs especially will be a quite annoyed with themselves that they didn’t do better in what turned out to be as much a training match as a official fixture could ever be.

    Why should we, people who are putting our money into the players hands, be wholly satisfied with a performance when the players themselves are not?

    Personally I think the team did well and did better than I would have expected even if given the hindsight of the Rebels’ limpness. Still doesn’t mean there is nothing to be worked on, I am neither happy or unhappy, they could have done better and equally could have done worse.

  • Comment 26, posted at 25.03.13 10:41:56 by Seaton Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 18) : :twisted: I am so with you on this one! There is this supporter mentality that the players are the avatars of our egos and that they should deliver a perfect game each week. The ratings are given as an opinion and that of the author, not tools to blast a player.
    Our boys played as a unit for the first time this season, and that is what brought about the change. We did so for 80 minutes, not allowing the Rebels posession.
    The Rebels are a good unit and will suprise their rivals soon. They just stepped into the same rut we were in 7 days before. They got their game together in the last 15 minutes and scored. We turned the ball over at 3 occasions but VD Merwe gave it back to them. But this is a SR side and the idea of putting up 100 over them is just a pipe dream!!!
    But nothing turned our game into a bad game. Even our subs were great. What is this ranting about one shark against the other, breaking down our players? I read this week in week out where some are deemed as gods and others as mortals. EVERYBODY on the pitch made mistakes and played some good rugby as well.
    We played as a unit with very few mistakes. :twisted:

  • Comment 27, posted at 25.03.13 10:55:08 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 25) : :twisted: Yip! That would be spectacular to see. :twisted:

  • Comment 28, posted at 25.03.13 10:59:23 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @KILLER SHARK (Comment 27) : I agree. The boys looked full of enthusiasm and played as well as they could.

    The changes in positions and subs etc did disrupt things, but the boys gave it their all.

  • Comment 29, posted at 25.03.13 11:02:55 by StevieS Reply
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  • @Seaton (Comment 26) : SO i do not care becausede i do not call players silly names and i do not try an act as the Sharks coach??

  • Comment 30, posted at 25.03.13 11:20:54 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @KILLER SHARK (Comment 27) : 100% correct boet, and I agree for the most with Robs ratings,

    Its the general comments in here and many blogs which gets my hair up.

    Steyn for example saved 2 certain tries with great defense late in the game, is ge getting credit for it?? no, and again i am not talking about Rob here, and of course Steyn has a little weight issue, so now he is being called fatty and tubby etc etc etc

  • Comment 31, posted at 25.03.13 11:24:24 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • I thought Pat played better last week than this week. Still he made a few kicking mistakes, and although he looked unhappy, he didn’t let it affect he rest of his game.

    Bosman’s defense has improved, and also his speed training looks like it has helped him a lot.

    Keegan is such a vital cog in our attacking game, his offloads resulted in 2 tries, and his own try surely makes him MOTM!

  • Comment 32, posted at 25.03.13 11:32:13 by Gaff Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 31) : :twisted: The best way to rate the game is to watch it more than once, excuse the minor mistakes and remember that when we play(ed) we were just as human. In my mind I was good in the games I played, but when I watch the games now, I seem pretty average to K*K-LOL.
    We should be honest in our oppinions and not call for a guy’s head for a error. Got my panties in a bunch again when reading about the McLeod / Reinach favourism by some bloggers. They are both outstanding players, working on their weaknesses. The competition for that jumper is the best thing that can happen to a us.
    Crit the players on the game, not personal hates. :twisted:

  • Comment 33, posted at 25.03.13 11:34:01 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @Gaff (Comment 32) : :twisted: Keegan played a great game. My favour for MOTM would have be PSDT. He showed the controlled aggression that a man of his size should put on the opponents. But as you state, it was the offloads by the players, rather than the meters gained, which won the game for us! :twisted:

  • Comment 34, posted at 25.03.13 11:37:54 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • I enjoy the move where Reinach wraps around Pat. He adds a lot of pace to the line and keeps the defense guessing.

  • Comment 35, posted at 25.03.13 11:39:12 by Gaff Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 31) : :twisted: Different game and Steyn would have been a god for saving those two! Frans shed some killo’s last week, I could see. :twisted:

  • Comment 36, posted at 25.03.13 11:40:45 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @KILLER SHARK (Comment 34) : PSDT played very well. I was especially impressed with his speed around the park. A couple of times he picked the ball up first from the ruck, beating Reinach to the ball. He’ s going to get better and better.

  • Comment 37, posted at 25.03.13 11:45:43 by Gaff Reply

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  • @Seaton (Comment 26) : “Why should we, people who are putting our money into the players hands, be wholly satisfied with a performance when the players themselves are not?”

    Because if you can’t be happy with a 57 point victory I worry that you won’t be happy with anything which does not make supporting a team very enjoyable.

  • Comment 38, posted at 25.03.13 11:46:45 by Orelando_G Reply

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  • @Orelando_G (Comment 38) : :twisted: :lol: :lol: :twisted:

  • Comment 39, posted at 25.03.13 11:57:04 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @Greg (Comment 24) : :twisted: True dat! In Rugby you are only as good as your next game. :twisted:

  • Comment 40, posted at 25.03.13 12:01:48 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @KILLER SHARK (Comment 33) : I always watch the match more then once, first time you watch you are too tense and into wanting to win, 2nd or 3rd time you are seeing many things you did not see before, lol

  • Comment 41, posted at 25.03.13 12:12:22 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Gaff (Comment 37) : I think everyone in the team is always there before Reinach, so not that big of a achivement :D He must be the slowest scummy in SA to the rucks.

  • Comment 42, posted at 25.03.13 12:18:32 by Uli Reply
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  • I’ve been scanning through the articles and comments, so if I missed anything I apologise… My question is why did the players (some of them) play out of position? Eg. Beast on flank somewhere, Keegan on wing at some stage.

    Were they just having fun? Or was Plum trying to rotate and save some players game time?

  • Comment 43, posted at 25.03.13 12:29:29 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 43) : I think Steyn replaced JP, Ludik moved to wing, Riaan replaced Pat, and Charl came on, so when Mvovo injured himself I think Burden replaced him cause there were no more back line subs.

  • Comment 44, posted at 25.03.13 12:41:45 by Gaff Reply

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  • This is a laugh. Did Bosman play? They guy was completely anonymous in a 10 try blitz. Give me an unfit Frans at 12 anyday.

    Hell we had Frans as the best SA 12 in the first two rounds, he along with the rest of the Sharks slumped in the two games thereafter and poor Frans has taken the hit.

    Bosman is a bog ordinary player who brings no creativity or flair to the 12 role. If the Sharks want to progress, they cant do that with ordinary at 12.

    A fit Frans is a must at 12, he has the skill and physicality to beat the man, take contact and offload…..we need to see that from Frans, as he did against the Cheetahs

  • Comment 45, posted at 25.03.13 13:53:11 by Saffex Reply

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  • @Saffex (Comment 45) : didn’t watch the game?

  • Comment 46, posted at 25.03.13 14:07:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 46) : I think the point he is trying to make is, that even though Bosman might have had a good game ( I wont know as I was at a wedding at the time of the game) , is how quickly when things are going bad with the Sharks Frans always seem to get most of the blame. When in actual fact there are 14 other players on the field as well.

  • Comment 47, posted at 25.03.13 14:19:56 by Uli Reply
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  • Bosman and Botes are both valuable players to the Sharks cause. They may not be Bok material, but they certainly slot in well to the team.

  • Comment 48, posted at 25.03.13 15:47:13 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 46) : He clearly didn’t watch the part where Bosman nailed all his kicks in the difficult swirling wind whereas Pat missed a lot of his.

  • Comment 49, posted at 25.03.13 17:21:59 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 47) : he made the point in far too subtle a way for me to pick it up :)

  • Comment 50, posted at 25.03.13 18:05:42 by robdylan Reply
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    Yep I saw every minute of the game, the one in which Bosman did nothing of value given the one sided affair. Hell in a 10 try blitz, you would expect your 12 to feature with ball in hand. Fact is Bosman has no creativity or flair and there is no way in hell he will ever make an impact on a game.

    A player is not defined by his kicking for goal. I expect a 12 to provide some attacking clout. Bosman is a bog ordinary rugby player. The chances of him beating his opposite number through skill is a big fat zero

  • Comment 51, posted at 25.03.13 18:30:21 by Saffex Reply

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  • @Saffex (Comment 51) : And on that positive note…. :roll:

  • Comment 52, posted at 25.03.13 18:57:15 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • There’s nothing wrong with Meyer Bosman … He’s has great distribution skills and an accurate boot which makes him the perfect foil to lambie in second or third phase. His defence has improved by leaps and bounds. Defences have become so organised, I think you will find very few players who can beat their opposite number using ‘skill’. Frans steyn’s biggest issue has not been poor play. In the last couple of weeks we’ve had no go forward ball from a pack that has just managed to hold its own. PSD gave us that go forward on first phase and cooper on second phase.

  • Comment 53, posted at 25.03.13 19:05:56 by byron Reply

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  • @Saffex (Comment 45) : @Saffex (Comment 51) : In the face of being caught in the crushing, pincer-like grip of your logic, I have to accede – Meyer Bosman is crap. :roll:

  • Comment 54, posted at 25.03.13 20:01:24 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Anyone doubting Bosman’s form is kidding themselves…AND i was one of the doubters after his 2011 season. His regained his mojo in the Currie Cup and deserves his starting place. Brings great width and a backup kicking option is vital. What will be interesting is when Whitehead returns…i love that guy!!!

    Oh and how good is Pieter-Steph!!!!

    1 last thing..with regard to Steyn…those claiming he is the best #12 in SA. he was poor for the Boks last year as well!!

  • Comment 55, posted at 26.03.13 07:31:56 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 54) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 56, posted at 26.03.13 10:04:41 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 30) : Of course not, hence why I started off with “We” ;)

    And I don’t call them silly names or try to analyse their performance as though I am the coach and that it will make any difference. The team wants what is best for the team, we want what is best for the team, some have different opinions on how this should be achieved whether through berating, critical analysis, realistic criticism, pessimistic criticism, congratulations, etc…

  • Comment 57, posted at 26.03.13 11:07:20 by Seaton Reply

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  • @Orelando_G (Comment 38) : Never said I wasn’t happy, I am ecstatic and very pleased with the result.

    Am I wholly satisfied and think there is no realistic room for improvement? Nope, and before you ask yes there are times when I have been entirely satisfied with their performance and see criticism of them as futile and unnecessary.

  • Comment 58, posted at 26.03.13 11:12:00 by Seaton Reply

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