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Sharks make some interesting changes


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Posted in :In the news, Sharks, Super Rugby on 2 May 2013 at 11:00

The Sharks have announced the team to face the Highlanders on Saturday morning, with some welcome changes in the backline, and some less obviously pleasing ones in the pack.

The strike power is taken up several antes with the dangerous and speedy Lwazi Mvovo and mercurial JP Pietersen returning pretty quickly from injury. Coupled with the solidity of the 100kg+ Meyer Bosman and Francois Steyn at midfield to combat the Highlanders’ physicality down the inside channels, things are looking good out back.

Its up front that things get a bit more debatable, with the hard-working Anton Bresler dropped for the lineout prowess and experience of Franco van der Merwe, and particularly surprising, the bulk and breakdown ability of Jean Deysel and Derek Minnie dropped for Keegan Daniel and Marcel Coetzee.

Certainly, the latter 2 are Springboks and integral parts of the team over the last few seasons, but last week’s performance included some great forward play (including the return of the stalwart driving maul) and it is hard to believe that it was mere coincidence that Minnie and Deysel were on the field during this resurgence.

The bench looks good with staalbaard JC Janse van Rensburg adding his reassuring bulk, and Deysel and young Piet Lindeque looking to make a late impact. Tiaan Meyer makes his debut off the bench, and right now it’s a toss-up as to whether Minnie or Odwa Ndungane (who sadly looked off the pace last week) takes up another spot. Given the likely physical nature of the contest, I think Minnie would be the right call.

1. Wiehahn Herbst

2. Kyle Cooper

3. Jannie du Plessis

4. Pieter-Steph du Toit

5. Franco van der Merwe

6. Keegan Daniel (Capt)

7. Marcell Coetzee

8. Lubabalo Mtembu

9. Charl McLeod

10. Patrick Lambie

11. Lwazi Mvovo

12. Meyer Bosman

13. Francois Steyn

14. JP Pietersen

15. Riaan Viljoen

Replacements

16. Craig Burden

17. JC Janse van Rensburg

18. Anton Bresler

19. Jean Deysel

20. Tian Meyer

21. Piet Lindeque

22. Odwa Ndungane / Derick Minnie



150 Comments

  • I would replace interesting with another word. Use your imagination.

  • Comment 1, posted at 02.05.13 11:02:29 by Letgo Reply
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  • Luckily our backline is good, because they’ll have to clean the ball out so that Keegan and Marcel can enjoy some possession. Oh and nothing against Tera, but he’ll be standing along side these two wondering what the hell they’re doing there with him.

  • Comment 2, posted at 02.05.13 11:04:04 by Letgo Reply
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  • I give up trying to understand Plum’s logic. :x

  • Comment 3, posted at 02.05.13 11:04:15 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Lets make a prediction. Cleanout and pilfer stats for next week – Bosman will have more in both columns than Keegan.

  • Comment 4, posted at 02.05.13 11:05:25 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 1) : I thought the same thing when I saw the title. Perplexing is perhaps better…

  • Comment 5, posted at 02.05.13 11:07:13 by King Shark Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 4) : :oops: Ouch!!

  • Comment 6, posted at 02.05.13 11:07:44 by King Shark Reply
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  • KD back to break the Sharks team, how ironic.

  • Comment 7, posted at 02.05.13 11:12:51 by Uli Reply
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  • Seriously, if we do not pick up 5 points against the highlanders this weekend we might as well start preperations for S15 2014. That is if we win the relegation match against the Lions!

  • Comment 8, posted at 02.05.13 11:13:42 by Viking Reply
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  • some clever, some stupid, but all interesting nonetheless :)

  • Comment 9, posted at 02.05.13 11:15:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 7) : he’s going to have a blinder – you know it!

  • Comment 10, posted at 02.05.13 11:15:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 3) :
    “We took a step up in the try-scoring department against the Chiefs when we scored four tries against the current champions and we’re hoping we can continue that this week against the Highlanders,” said Sharks coach John Plumtree.

    Yes this clearly explains his logic! He’s thinking – We scored tries. Lets see if we can score some with both these guys on the field. Why the hell wouldn’t we be able to do it with them on the field? Minnie and Deysel is just bigger and stronger and more willing to clean the rucks and send some go forward possession to Tera and Piet Steph. Now we’ll have two more guys that can carry the ball – AND THEY WILL WAIT UNTIL THAT BALL GETS TO THEM NO MATTER WHAT! – That can’t be bad can it? Kyle can also carry and Franco doesn’t really carry and doesn’t really do anything at the rucks, but he’ll catch the ball at the line out. Jannie and Wian won’t do that much carrying, but that’s okay I’ll still teach them to wait for the ball too, they’ll get there. Yippy we’re going to win this game because I’m so smart, everyone else thinks you need to have players in the team that will clean out rucks, but I know if they clean out rucks they can’t play with the ball because their heads are in a ruck. I have the most ball carrying players of all the teams. I’m so smart.

    If you make selections like Plum has, this is the only logic that could possibly be going through your head.

  • Comment 11, posted at 02.05.13 11:17:36 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 11) : Whether it is good logic is another thing entirely.

  • Comment 12, posted at 02.05.13 11:20:29 by Letgo Reply
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  • If I were coach and for the sake of consistency which does not seem to be the forte of referees or SANZAR (just look at their thresholds for red cards), I would have sent Daniel back to SA to sit it out with Kankowski.

    Rather have Deysel on the field in his place and bring Minnie on later as a replacement for either Deysel or Coetzee.

    The backline is pretty much to be expected although the only other selection that could have happened was to drop Steyn to the bench and bring JP in at 13. Although the lack of a proper recognised winger to take JP’s place probably scuppered that selection.

  • Comment 13, posted at 02.05.13 11:22:44 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @Viking (Comment 8) : I think we are already there, being on four losses. The Reds will be loss no 5 – then we still have Bulls away and the Blues at home. Drop either of those and we are on 6 losses, which will probably see us lose out on playoffs.

  • Comment 14, posted at 02.05.13 11:23:32 by King Shark Reply
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  • wow deysel dropd! :mad: for marcell who turns his back and tries making meters while facing his own goal line! for daniels sake i hope he shows some form because right now his in that squad because he is the captain. as for the backline what difference does it make exactly because its the forwards showing more skill and scoring tries backline is just there to defend and knock on the ball :evil:

  • Comment 15, posted at 02.05.13 11:24:34 by Poisy Reply
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  • @King Shark (Comment 14) : @Viking (Comment 8) : On the other hand, the Cheetahs play the Hurricanes, Reds, Bulls and Blues at home with the Kings and Stormers away.

    We could still overtake them…

  • Comment 16, posted at 02.05.13 11:25:54 by King Shark Reply
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  • Against the Rebels we had to ensure physical dominance before we started to chuck the ball around a bit.
    In that game we scored a couple of rolling maul trys, dominated up front and then scored a few more out wide.

    Against the Chiefs, we socred a few rolling maul trys and then once we had the Chiefs matched physically, we started to dominate them.

    Against the Landers, our task has just become a whole lot more difficult without Deysel and Bresler. The Landers aren’t the Rebels, Plum. We wont just dominate them with a relatively light pack like we did the Rebels.

    I have a feeling that if and when the Landers start to dominate the breakdown and collisions, we are going to be in for a long and frustrating night.

  • Comment 17, posted at 02.05.13 11:26:26 by John Galt Reply

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  • @King Shark (Comment 14) : Bulls also have no trouble winning in Durban

  • Comment 18, posted at 02.05.13 11:26:28 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 11) : lmfao my gf loves your comment

  • Comment 19, posted at 02.05.13 11:27:38 by Poisy Reply
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  • @John Galt (Comment 17) : Especially when they can send the fast men around Steyn at 13.

    If you can dominate their forwards, you can get away with Steyn at 13. If you can’t I see real problems out wide

  • Comment 20, posted at 02.05.13 11:28:05 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 15) : The backline’s cause isn’t helped when guys like PSDT moers the ball away… He conceded three tries that way and lost possession a couple of times by trying to emulating Victor-flyhalf-Matfield. And he is one example.

  • Comment 21, posted at 02.05.13 11:28:16 by King Shark Reply
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  • Very happy we have JP and Mvovo back.
    And please put Minnie on the bench instead of Odwa.
    Even if you have to play Minnie on the wing.

    He’d still be quicker.

  • Comment 22, posted at 02.05.13 11:28:25 by John Galt Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 10) : I highly doubt it. But lets hope so.

  • Comment 23, posted at 02.05.13 11:28:42 by Uli Reply
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  • Ah FFS! Make the whining stop?? :razz:

  • Comment 24, posted at 02.05.13 11:28:43 by Ice Reply
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  • I quiet like the team, Coetzee at least will know what to do now, KD has played well at 6 before and Mtembu get another shot. All in all im happy

  • Comment 25, posted at 02.05.13 11:30:06 by Tintin Reply

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  • I guess the coaches have watched the Highlanders previous gsmes and feel tjat they dont pose a big breakdown threat. In addition, Daniel used to play openside for us most of the time until Kanko left. He may not be a fetcher, but he has often been first choice opensider.

    I think the backline and bringing Cooper back are good decisions. In any event, this is a team selection built for running the ball.

  • Comment 26, posted at 02.05.13 11:30:33 by Big Fish Reply
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  • i know what you saying but even when the backline gets the ball moving forward they just stuff it up even when theres overlaps its annoying they not doing they job

  • Comment 27, posted at 02.05.13 11:31:43 by Poisy Reply
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  • Unless Plum is pulling a last minute surprise ala Mac, this selection policy screams Heyneke! ie we had a plan to rest Coetzee and Daniel in game one and ready them for game two, and damn we’re sticking to that plan come hell or high water.

  • Comment 28, posted at 02.05.13 11:36:59 by neilster Reply

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  • @Poisy (Comment 27) : We often see the worst passers in the pack, popping up in the crucial outside channel, only for the pass to die! Whats with that…

  • Comment 29, posted at 02.05.13 11:38:00 by neilster Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 26) : Sorry I feel any team selecting Coetzee at the moment is hell bent on crashing it up…unless they are going to use him as a decoy. Its not his fault though, he is not being coached to look outside and vary his game.

  • Comment 30, posted at 02.05.13 11:39:36 by neilster Reply

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  • Ai guys, seriously too much hate being shown towards the players.

    Steyn is too fat and slow, Coetzee does nothing but defend, KD will cost us the game, blah blah blah.

    Just like the Sharks players, us supporters must get to the point where we actually enjoy our rugby again.

    Might as well adopt a “glass-half-full” attitude when supporting the Sharks or stop watching them play. Enjoy the scrum, the big hits and that rare moment that we finally manage to score a try. ;-)

  • Comment 31, posted at 02.05.13 11:40:45 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 24) : When a woman says the whinging must stop, then we know it has really gone too far :lol:

  • Comment 32, posted at 02.05.13 11:42:13 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 32) : :mrgreen: Funny man!

  • Comment 33, posted at 02.05.13 11:44:27 by King Shark Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 31) : Except for the very real possibility of havin to play against the Lions for relegation :evil:
    Nope mediocrity should not be accepted in a team as good as the Sharks! Otherwise we would be called the Cheetahs or Lions! Even the Cheetahs have woken up this year and are sitting above us on the log :(

  • Comment 34, posted at 02.05.13 11:45:23 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @neilster (Comment 29) : they taking matters in to they own hands u honestly think our backline can do better? they havent shown that the whole season

  • Comment 35, posted at 02.05.13 11:47:46 by Poisy Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 32) : hell, say your say once…but some has been carrying on and on and on. Sometimes on the same thread… I reckon we have got the point of their view by now… #sigh :lol:

  • Comment 36, posted at 02.05.13 11:50:31 by Ice Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 35) : Well, when Mvovo and JPP got the ball things happened. Same with Andries Coetzee and Piet Lindeque. Problem is that Steyn at 12 was too greedy and Jordaan crabbed towards the touchline – eliminating any opportunity the outside backs had. When PJ passed, it was usually forward.

    In a sense Steyn at 13 is perfect – we now have a 13 that will straighten the line and when he does pass to the outside backs, they still have some space to manoeuvre in.

  • Comment 37, posted at 02.05.13 11:51:53 by King Shark Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 35) : I’m not criticising the pack for wanting to be enterprising, I’m critisising the game plan for not having informed players what their roles are based on their strengths…so what I’m saying is PSDT should never have been in that channel attempting a pass to start with. The backs are rank poor at the moment, I completely agree.

  • Comment 38, posted at 02.05.13 11:54:45 by neilster Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 34) : Remember last year how we struggled until Beast came back from injury?

    This year we have approx. 13 injuries. I think losing guys like Bismarck, Whitehead, KD & Alberts at the start of the season will have a huge impact. Add to that the injuries of Ludik, Mvovo, JP, Beast, Jordaan, Deysel, Reinach whilst only getting some players back at the middle of the competition will have a huge impact.

    I also want to see the Sharks play to their potential, but I’m forced to be realistic about the injury predicament we find ourselves in, all this with a new green team doctor having to perform miracles with players he hardly knows.

    The team is truly up against it. Time to cut them some slack.

  • Comment 39, posted at 02.05.13 11:55:54 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • I like this team. I think it is right to have the captain back to redeem himself…. and I don’t think Minnie was that great at the breakdown last week, despite the two tries.

    I wouldn’t have picked MArcell ahead of Deysel, nor would I have had Franco ahead of Bresler.

    Otherwise, not much to complain about.

    Come guys…. we need a win BADLY here and Plumtree has brought 4 Boks + 1 Bok tourist back into the starting lineup. Can’t really fault the reasoning.

  • Comment 40, posted at 02.05.13 11:55:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 36) : Why Ice are you actually happy that the Sharks are losing? Or is it because Coetzee is part of the loosies? Really The Sharks are in danger of being at the bottom of the SA conference! I am not happy to be sitting there when clearly we have an extremely talented team! and while the injuries have not helped, that is not where the problem lies!

  • Comment 41, posted at 02.05.13 11:57:20 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • I feel for Lindeque and Bresler after good performances last week. Plum has a love affair with average Franco v/d Merwe and Bosman who provide no clout.

    Bresler for Franco and Lindeque for Bosman, with Frans moving to 12, should have been the call

  • Comment 42, posted at 02.05.13 11:58:03 by Saffex Reply

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  • @Saffex (Comment 42) : Never – Frans should not be in the 12 channel at the moment.

  • Comment 43, posted at 02.05.13 12:00:42 by King Shark Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 41) : now why would I be happy?

    But seriously having to hear how kak KD and MC in every second comment by the same people are nauseating. I don’t say I entirely disagree. What o disagree with is the sting in some of the comments.

    I have asked a question – could some of Coetzee’s lack of form be attributed to tiredness? But no one has bothered to give me an answer because they are so busy slandering the guy.

  • Comment 44, posted at 02.05.13 12:06:21 by Ice Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 39) : I do agree to a point. However, where I am unhappy in the absence of Bismarck who is good at pilfering (am I using the right word) we have no one that really steals the ball in the team now, there goes our possession, Coetzee and Keegan have been out of sorts the entire season, but you cannot replace the Capt. and KD has shown glimpses of his form so keep Minnie with Coetzee on the bench. BUT what has me in knots is the Derick Minnie bracketd after Odwa!

  • Comment 45, posted at 02.05.13 12:08:18 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 44) : NOPE I do not believe that Marcel’s form is tired related, I believe he has been, how did Rob put it last week, Plummed or Heyneked! Where he has been forced to be a bash it up at all costs, and has last what made him special in the 1st place and made him predictable, like what has happened to JD last season!

  • Comment 46, posted at 02.05.13 12:12:35 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • Because of the poor balance of the loose trio Terra will not be as effective this week and then Plum will probably drop him for the next game.

    I’m not happy with changes in the loose trio, the rest I can live with.

  • Comment 47, posted at 02.05.13 12:13:18 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @King Shark (Comment 37) : we will see if that makes any difference

  • Comment 48, posted at 02.05.13 12:17:18 by Poisy Reply
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  • Let’s hope we can see the wonder of Steyn passing the ball again. Plum’s really testing my believe to never go against the Sharks on Superbru.

  • Comment 49, posted at 02.05.13 12:24:25 by JD Reply
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  • I would have liked Lindeque to get another opportunity. He played pretty well once he got used to the team. I think he is better off at centre. For now though, let Steyn use the 13 jersey to get back to his best, and then I would drop Bosman and have a Steyn 12 and Lindeque 13 centre combination. I also wouldn’t have dropped Bresler. I most certainly wouldn’t have dropped Deysel for Coetzee, who is way off form. I don’t disagree with starting Daniel. I think a game on the bench would have done him good. We can’t forget how awesome he was last year. We need to give him a chance to get back to his best (and to be honest, Minnie didn’t really have that much of an impact, only 2 maul tries). It’s good to see JP and Mvovo back, though!

  • Comment 50, posted at 02.05.13 12:27:24 by David12246 Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 46) : thanks. Now having read your answer, then its hardly all a fault of his own if he is being plummed and Heyneke’d. Listen, don’t get me wrong, I am not blind. But I am also not one to believe a guy can play special one season and suddenly he is shit. (Which I don’t thon MC is. But yes, he can be better) but for that reason, I believe he is being treated a bit harsh.

  • Comment 51, posted at 02.05.13 12:27:31 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 51) : NOpe I do not believe he is all that bad and I honestly do not believe he is to blame, Lambie is another one comes back from the Boks and is reduced to 2 line breaks in 11 games ? and look how they worked when he got the Skop at all costs out of him. I just liked having someone on the field that pilfers a bit, like Deysel or Minnie that is all, and based on last weeks performance I would have sat KD out, but he is captain blah blah

  • Comment 52, posted at 02.05.13 12:34:03 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 52) : I reckon a lot of boys lost their spark, after THAT bok gameplan. We are sitting with a problem.

  • Comment 53, posted at 02.05.13 12:39:23 by Ice Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 52) : @Ice (Comment 53) :

    Come now girls play nice!

  • Comment 54, posted at 02.05.13 12:41:59 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 54) : what?? We are having a chat? If it comes across a feisty, its correct, coz we are both little packets of dinamite! We understand each other, don’t worry Pokkel! :lol:

  • Comment 55, posted at 02.05.13 12:46:35 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 55) :

    I’ve seen girls fight, not pretty…..unless there is oil involved! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 56, posted at 02.05.13 12:50:20 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 54) : Ice is right, we are having a chat nothing more :) You do know that dynamite comes in small packages :)

  • Comment 57, posted at 02.05.13 12:57:37 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 40) : Totally agree…backline changes make sense, although Lideque did impress!!

    Deysel is ahead of Marcell at this point!! And Keegan did reasonably well at #6 last year!!

    And Bresler has been overlooked again. He was our no1 lock last year. Show the man some respect!!

    If coached properly we can rack a few wins together with this team and then dominate when other big names return – Kanko, Bissie, Ludik??, Beast

  • Comment 58, posted at 02.05.13 13:11:11 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @King Shark (Comment 43) : Disagree, he is a 12, Bosman is a pretender – adds no value at all

  • Comment 59, posted at 02.05.13 13:14:44 by Saffex Reply

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  • @Saffex (Comment 59) :

    Something we finally agree on.

  • Comment 60, posted at 02.05.13 13:26:28 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Saffex (Comment 59) :NOOOO
    Ill take all of Serfontein, de Villiers, Ebersohn etc.

    The man has always had the skillset, but if you needed someone to take the kick to win the match, would you pick Steyn?? THAT IS IN THE MIND

    Think of all those times he had kicks charged down, or when he took those insane quick throws on his own try line…

    My opinion

  • Comment 61, posted at 02.05.13 13:27:10 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @Saffex (Comment 59) : Your thoughts re. Bosman has been well documented. :roll:

    Care to discuss any player/position other than 12/Bosman? ;-)

  • Comment 62, posted at 02.05.13 13:27:24 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Saffex (Comment 59) : The Sharks “brain trust” just needs to get some support players to run off Frans once he goes on his barging runs. He can offload quite well. I would have had him at 12 for this game, and bring Bosman on later.

  • Comment 63, posted at 02.05.13 13:27:24 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Saffex (Comment 59) : That being said Bosman is a 10 in my mind. A very good passing game and good kicking game, but no running threat

  • Comment 64, posted at 02.05.13 13:31:57 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 44) : Coetzee had a very busy year last year plus throw in the crazy travel schedule last year. I would have had him on the bench specifically for that reason.

    However he could have a look at Tera against the Chiefs and see how to gain ground without trying to run over everyone too. He just does not have the bulk to try and do an Alberts impersonation.

  • Comment 65, posted at 02.05.13 13:33:23 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 62) : Try read, I have commented on the players that should not be there……ie Bosman and Franco – get it?

  • Comment 66, posted at 02.05.13 13:48:55 by Saffex Reply

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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 61) : You have lost me…..why would Frans be kicking. I want him at 12 for the Sharks

  • Comment 67, posted at 02.05.13 13:50:26 by Saffex Reply

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  • - I think its a good team!!!!!!
    - Keegan Daniel not too long ago was playing 6 and 8 and
    won Vodacom Super rugby player of the year 2012. So whats
    the fuss with him??

    - Minnie must be on the bench.

    - Bosman fine at 12. Tackles hard 90% of the time and had a
    few decent outings so far except maybe last week.

    - Steyn at 13: Has looked better as every game has gone past.
    Another chance to show his class.

    - The only change I would consider is to keep Deysel in, and
    Coetzee on the bench.

  • Comment 68, posted at 02.05.13 14:00:13 by CPT Shark Reply

     
  • Everyone now is saying Daniel is too light to play 6 or 8, after having an incredible 2012 of rugby. Dont understand it one bit. He came on last week and played well!! Voted Vodacom super rugby player of the season 2012. Just watch him this week and see how he proves all his haters wrong.
    Marcell Coetzee is part of the tried and tested so how can people complain about his inclusion?? He has been okay.
    Frans Steyn need the games because the more he plays, the better he gets. On try scoring, we scored from 2 mauls. The other 2 were scored because of good continuity of ball possession including Daniel’s good try!! We will win this week with a bonus point try. Watch the Space :-) )))

  • Comment 69, posted at 02.05.13 14:06:17 by CPT Shark Reply

     
  • @CPT Shark (Comment 69) : I am not convinced that Keegan and Tera will necessarily complement each other very well. Hoping Keegan gets his hands dirty at ruck time, rather than trying to play like an 8 with a 6 on his back.

  • Comment 70, posted at 02.05.13 14:11:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 70) : I find Coetzee’s inclusion a bit mystifying as both Minnie and Deysel provided way more go-forward than the clearly fatigued Coetzee.

  • Comment 71, posted at 02.05.13 14:16:09 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @CPT Shark (Comment 69) : I have always been a Keegan fan. However apart from finishing off the move started by tight forwards I don’t recall him contributing much else except for giving away the silly penalty that cost us our second bonus point. I don’t think the guy is in good form at the moment, and in my opinion lucky he is not sitting next to Kanko on the beach.

    You recall that we scored from 2 mauls, but then Plum removes the beef that helped us maul in the first place. Our back line still did not set the world alight, apart from a good set piece try which I attribute to Lambie catching the opposition asleep by actually running at them and some good support play from Tera.

    We had a couple of good runs from Frans but I don’t recall any of them really resulting in much, because we still can’t continue the momentum generated by Frans.

    I would be very happy if we just win this game.

  • Comment 72, posted at 02.05.13 14:18:25 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Tintin (Comment 25) : I also like the team.

  • Comment 73, posted at 02.05.13 14:32:15 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @CapeShark (Comment 71) : yeah… I hear you.

  • Comment 74, posted at 02.05.13 14:44:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • @CPT Shark (Comment 69) : Who said Daniel was too light for 6?

  • Comment 75, posted at 02.05.13 14:48:30 by Saffex Reply

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  • @Saffex (Comment 67) : No no. I just used that situation as an example.

    BMT when the chips are down and someone needs to come up with the winning play when the pressure is on.

    U know like a Carter, Wilkinson, ODriscoll etc…

  • Comment 76, posted at 02.05.13 15:14:50 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 44) : Ice, you know I like Marcell (I’m not the biggest fan of Keegan, but last year admitted that he had a great year), but neither of these players are having the best time on the field this year.

    Deysel and Minnie had one game together and when we had the ball we looked miles better than in any other game this season. It’s not because they definitely are better quality players than either Marcell or Daniel, but rather that they were better suited to their specific roles and combined well as a unit with Tera.

    I think Marcell is fatigued, but more than that he’s been thrown around in different roles that he’s just not comfortable with and it has affected his form. It’s different being the go to guy who needs to make all the meters and being the guy that takes the ball up after Alberts or Bissie set up good go forward ball. (Or not just after them, but specifically sharing that load). I’m rooting for him and think he’ll look much better playing at 7, but do not think based on his form that he deserved starting ahead of Deysel this week (who btw has not had a bad game this entire season).

    Keegan is not a 6 and did not win his Super rugby player of the year title in this position. He played 80% of the games at 8, but aside from that his form has been poor this season and he has cost us with silly decision making and poor execution since he came back for the Brumbies game. His inclusion in this side in any position can also not be justified.

    I believe we will win against the Highlanders, but if we select the same loose trio against the Reds with Liam Gill working on the ground, we will be taught a lesson again. You can’t play an eightman none the less an eightman who enjoys playing as loose as Keegan does, at 6. Why has it worked in the past, because we had guys playing with him who picked up the slack. Bissie has a huge workrate around the contact area and has been a stand in openside when Botes wasn’t playing.

    Keegan spends more time in the midfield or hanging around the rucks than he is ensuring that our ball carriers will get good clean ball. Unless he’s put up his hand and said, I’ll take that responsibility, but I doubt we’ll be seeing Keegan doing much work at any rucks. And I’d be happy to admit that I was wrong if he proves to be effective in this area against not just the Highlanders but especially the Reds.

  • Comment 77, posted at 02.05.13 15:15:14 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Saffex (Comment 75) : Daniel is not too light for 6. I don’t like calling any player to light for any position, but he’s unwilling to do the job of a 6.

  • Comment 78, posted at 02.05.13 15:16:13 by Letgo Reply
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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 76) :

    o’Driscoll?

  • Comment 79, posted at 02.05.13 15:19:15 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 76) : I dont see what that has to do with Frans at 12 for the Sharks

  • Comment 80, posted at 02.05.13 15:23:59 by Saffex Reply

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  • Not too sure why certain folk want Lindeque in the team again, he cost us a try when he failed to collect a textbook kick and did not do much else on the day.

    Not sure what Minnie did other than give away penalties, Mtembu was far better at stealing ball on the ground.

    Naah, I think Plum’s selection is pretty decent.

    P.S. – Interesting to note how so many of us had so much to say about McLeod and how poor he is. I’ll be one of the few to admit that he put up a pretty decent showing and made some serious meters with those breaks of his.

    We’re quick to climb into players when they struggle for form, but when they put up a decent showing we sure are slow to give them credit – we kinda suck as supporters don’t we :twisted:

  • Comment 81, posted at 02.05.13 15:32:29 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 77) : He did try a couple of times to steal or slow down the Chief ball, but they just cleaned him off every single time.

  • Comment 82, posted at 02.05.13 15:34:30 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 78) : Well he is not an eigthman…….purely from a physical point of view. The modern game is about size and skill these days……one can almost set minimum benchmark weights for players in the various positions. Props and locks +115kg but closer to 120kg, 2,7&8′s +105kg but closer to 110kg, 6 – 100kg, wings, fullback and centres +90kg, but closer to 95kg……9&10 size is not an issue

  • Comment 83, posted at 02.05.13 15:34:31 by Saffex Reply

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  • @Saffex (Comment 83) : Okay so he shouldn’t be an 8, but even when he plays 6 he wants to play like an 8?

    I’d rather have him at 8 playing like an 8 than at 6 standing next to Mtembu saying, okay it’s my turn now.

  • Comment 84, posted at 02.05.13 15:37:42 by Letgo Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 81) : I think if you go back to the player ratings post you’ll see that most bloggers here pointed out that Charl had one of his best games in a long time.

    We’re all rooting for them to play their best game, but you can’t just put them in the team week after week hoping for it to happen. Charl had some time of and knew he had to give his best to impress the coach. Against the Chiefs he did, but as you may recall against the Brumbies when he also got a start, it was a different story.

    I don’t understand are we not suppose to say anything when players are in poor form.

    It’s not like we’ve been taring into Marcell or keegan since the first game they played this season, but as their form got progressively worse so did our comments about them.

  • Comment 85, posted at 02.05.13 15:40:57 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 84) : I’d be telling him you play a linking 6 role or not at all as you are not big enough for 8 – end of!!

  • Comment 86, posted at 02.05.13 15:43:05 by Saffex Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 85) : It comes down to the fact that no matter how much we moan and complain about these players, it doesn’t change things.

    We only get to see what happens on the field during the game (and not even all of it), we don’t know what’s happening behind the scenes, during practice, in the coach’s “office”, during technical sessions etc.

    We blame the players, but maybe their playing according to the coach’s instructions. Then again we blame the coach but maybe the players aren’t doing what they’ve been coached to do.

    We’re making emotional guesses regarding the team, but none of us really know what’s happening in the squad.

  • Comment 87, posted at 02.05.13 15:51:09 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Saffex (Comment 86) : Fair enough, but then you’d have to be the coach wouldn’t you. There was a time that Keegan was more effective at 6, but I have a feeling he was playing under the guidance of Botes who is a more natural openside.

  • Comment 88, posted at 02.05.13 15:59:59 by Letgo Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 87) : So what you’re saying is we should all just shut up? :mrgreen:

    I know it’s all just guessing, but if I’m not venting here I’ll be doing it with my family and we annoy each other enough already.

    The coach should always take some of the blame, especially of a player continues to play a certain way and the coach continues to select him.

    I hope we have a great game, I just don’t see it with that loose trio.

  • Comment 89, posted at 02.05.13 16:02:05 by Letgo Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 87) : It is not like Plum is coaching the “dorpspan” in Pongola. He has all the resources of a major SA union behind him.

  • Comment 90, posted at 02.05.13 16:04:58 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Maybe these old guys just arent up for it anymore?

    There seems to be a seismic shift every few years where the next generation of players just blows the older guys out of the water.

    I mean, do you think any of Mark andrews, Francois Pienaar or James Small would hack it in today’s game with their physiques?
    I certainly dont.

  • Comment 91, posted at 02.05.13 16:05:35 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 90) :

    Well, I mean, he’s not in Cape Town, but I take your point. He does have a few resources…

  • Comment 92, posted at 02.05.13 16:06:18 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Saffex (Comment 86) :

    It’s all about a balanced loose trio. Keegan has played his best rugby at 8 but then you need the right players around him to make it work. You can’t have Kanko and Keegan or Keegan and Botes in the same loose trio against a quality side. If Keegan plays 8 then you need Deysel at 6 and Alberts at 7 as an example.

  • Comment 93, posted at 02.05.13 16:07:59 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I thought you were joking about Pongola – seems it really is a place. Can we send Pierre Spies there?

  • Comment 94, posted at 02.05.13 16:08:18 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 94) :

    Probably the hottest town in SA.

  • Comment 95, posted at 02.05.13 16:10:31 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 94) : What – you have never heard of Pongola? :roll:

  • Comment 96, posted at 02.05.13 16:11:17 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 93) : No, you should never be playing Daniel at 8 and you should never be playing Deysel and Alberts at flank. If you wanted those 3, you would play Daniel at 6, Deysel at 7 and Alberts at 8…..not the selection I would make, but if I was playing those three, that is how I would play them

  • Comment 97, posted at 02.05.13 16:13:00 by Saffex Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 96) : He lives on the mud island.

    And for anybody in CT South Africa ends at Sir Lowry’s pass and at de Doorns. :lol:

  • Comment 98, posted at 02.05.13 16:13:30 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Saffex (Comment 97) :

    Your opinion. Daniel to me will never be a 6. He has done some amazing work at 8 though. He has initiated many tries with his speed of the back of a scrum.

    Anycase I’m not going to push the issue, it’s not like I’ve seen you change your mind very often.

  • Comment 99, posted at 02.05.13 16:16:30 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 89) : Venting – yeah we all need a good dose of that every now and then.

    With the Sharks though, best we learn to be veeeeeeery patient and looooooooooooooooong suffering. Everyday life is far too willing and able to hand out gray hairs, our leisure time should be ridding us of gray hairs, not aiding it. :lol:

  • Comment 100, posted at 02.05.13 16:17:37 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 99) : Surely Plum believes Coetzee and KD complement each other, hence the two of them benching together, then getting game time together and now both starting this weekend.

    So I guess at some level Plum is thinking of combinations.

    He also likes Franco because he believes him to be like Muller. I never could tell what exactly Muller did during general play, and the same is true of Franco, but it seems Plum has a clearer idea than me. :lol:

  • Comment 101, posted at 02.05.13 16:23:09 by FireTheLooser Reply

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    Benching together… hmmm…
    Well, at least they can hold hands.

  • Comment 102, posted at 02.05.13 16:36:39 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 77) : Now THAT sounds a hell of a lot better than how you have been going on.

    Yes, I like Marcell – both as player and person. People must remember he set an extremely high standard last year. And people are expecting that from him game in game out. Somethings gonna give.

    Yes, he is not playing to his own EXTREMELY high standard, but that does not make him shit. In the least! We see a drop and now he is not worth being in the team? Cut the guy some slack! His workrate is still high, as you pointed out as well – how must he be a ball carrier and a fetcher if he is not given the chance to settle in one position by the coaching staff?

  • Comment 103, posted at 02.05.13 16:37:07 by Ice Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 98) :

    WTF is de doorns? Is that inland… I dont really do inland… I think its because I want to be near the sea so that I can swim away if the Vaalies ever do a reverse-Great Trek. Or if the Germans attack I can row away in my rubber dingy.

  • Comment 104, posted at 02.05.13 16:38:32 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 103) :

    Yup, extreme.

  • Comment 105, posted at 02.05.13 16:40:06 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 104) : Heard of Prieska?…. :lol:

  • Comment 106, posted at 02.05.13 16:45:55 by Ice Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 99) : Ja that’s true, I dont see Daniel as an 8 as he is too small, you just dont see 100kg players playing 8 for a reason

  • Comment 107, posted at 02.05.13 16:49:29 by Saffex Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 106) :

    Lol, no… you’re making that up, arent ya?
    Wow, I just google mapped that. Wow, thats really in the middle fo nowhere.
    I can just imagine the place… dusty… tumbleweed.

    Is Prieska in Kordonia? When i was growing up they always mentioned Kordonia on the weather report and I was always like wtf is that? Eventually, in my mid-twenties I met somebody that was from Kordonia and I discovered it really was a place.

    This guys dad was a local farmer… his mom was the local teacher… talk about cliche! But I suppose you take waht you can get.

    Is that home Ice?

  • Comment 108, posted at 02.05.13 16:49:32 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • A huge thing that has been baffling me this season is all the forwards in the backline. How the hell is a guy suppose to steal ball, get over the advantage line etc and secure ball for the backs, if the one or two loosies fight for the ball with the light backline players and our forwards play centre and wings?

    Also, what happened to counter rucking? it cant happen, because the big guys are waiting in the wings?

  • Comment 109, posted at 02.05.13 16:52:38 by Ice Reply
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  • @Saffex (Comment 107) :

    You dont really see them anywhere but on the wing or holding the whistle these days.

  • Comment 110, posted at 02.05.13 16:52:45 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 108) : Its the MIL’s place….45 – 50 degrees in December…DRY heat!

    Nah – Im from a similar place next to the might Vaal, Mom has restaurant and pub, Dad has bottlestore, sis is the dance teacher and BIL is a police diver… Good combination if you need entertainment and it gets out of hand! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 111, posted at 02.05.13 16:56:33 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 111) :

    Did you struggle to find boys that werent related to you though?

    I dont suppose its an easy place to dump a body either…

  • Comment 112, posted at 02.05.13 16:59:01 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 110) : @Ice (Comment 111) : oh, but then I am addicted to Karoo lamb, and that makes up for it! :grin:

  • Comment 113, posted at 02.05.13 16:59:16 by Ice Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 112) : Nah – its not close to Brakpan… :mrgreen:

    Believe me…it horrendous the amount of drownings etc. Not nice if you have to get a kid from the river on Christmas day etc…

  • Comment 114, posted at 02.05.13 17:01:00 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 113) :

    I’m also quite impartial to Karoo lamb… thankfully we have these things called shops where I live… :cool:

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 115) : :lol: Yeah at 4 times the price!

  • Comment 116, posted at 02.05.13 17:03:30 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 114) :

    What other terrible things happen there on Christmas Day that you need to have an etc. on the end of that sentence?

    Im never going there. I’ll bet you lot abuse Santa too.

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 117) : What happens in XX stays in XX… :cool:

  • Comment 118, posted at 02.05.13 17:10:32 by Ice Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 117) : You will LOVE it….loads of characters! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 119, posted at 02.05.13 17:11:27 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 118) :
    @Ice (Comment 119) :

    Ermm… thats tempting and titillating at the same time Ice.

  • Comment 120, posted at 02.05.13 17:16:05 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 103) :
    Just remember its a compliment to the player when everyone’s so hard on them.

    I agree Plum hasn’t been helping him, but that’s why I don’t want to see him in the team right now, because i don’t think that it will improve under these circumstances. I’d rather rest him right now.

    It’s better that he’s at 7 though, but not so great that KD is playing 6 with him.

    Sorry that I’ve been so hard on your player, but you know I don’t spare anyone. I just want Plum to get some balance to that loose trio, if Marcell was playing with Minnie that would have been better also.

  • Comment 121, posted at 02.05.13 17:34:23 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 3) :

    Did you name yourself after a squirrel?

  • Comment 122, posted at 02.05.13 17:34:23 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 109) : Unfortunately Marcell is one of those forwards, which wouldn’t be so bad, if some of them were cleaning out. It doesn’t work if everyone wants the ball all the time. Someone has to be willing to do the grunt work.

    We have no one right now.

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  • I agree. :mrgreen:

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  • @Ice (Comment 103) : Anyway, talk to me directly if you think I’m too harsh. I’m better when people take me on directly.

  • Comment 125, posted at 02.05.13 17:37:02 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 121) :

    Never apologise – Rule #6

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  • @Letgo (Comment 123) :

    Do you know who I think you need…? Yup, Eben Etsebeth…

  • Comment 127, posted at 02.05.13 17:42:03 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 122) : Good guess, although I didn’t name myself. First day at a new school and one of the girls called me that. 25 years later I’m still stuck with it.

  • Comment 128, posted at 02.05.13 17:49:50 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 128) :

    You joking! I suppose i shoulve looked at your avatar… :oops:

    Do you know ive got that tune in my head now? Na na na na naaaaaaa, na na na na na.

  • Comment 129, posted at 02.05.13 17:52:01 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 129) : There was a kids program with a squirrel called ‘Pokkel die Eekoring’ Apparently I looked like him. My poor wife is nou called ‘Soentjie’ Pokkel’s girlfriend in the story.

  • Comment 130, posted at 02.05.13 17:56:08 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Why are you lot worrying so? Its not like youre playing the Blues on the weekend; its only the bloody Highlanders! I reckon Prieska’s second team could do a number on them.

  • Comment 131, posted at 02.05.13 17:56:40 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 130) :

    Yeah brew – I know. Its that bloody tune I have in my head now!

    Its the only Afrikaans cartoon I can remember. Besides Het jou katvis! of course.

    Thats quite sweet about your wife actually.

  • Comment 132, posted at 02.05.13 17:58:15 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 132) :No use fighting something like that, then you anly make it worse.

  • Comment 133, posted at 02.05.13 18:04:35 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 133) :
    Was it cos u kept making sure your nuts were safe?

  • Comment 134, posted at 02.05.13 18:34:11 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Plumtree is quite simply, insane.

    He changes or subs the Sharks biggest strengths of last weekend for a more physical team in the Landers. I can understand fans wanting and hoping to make sense of this but unless those benched have niggles he is concerned about, this is fucking daft.

  • Comment 135, posted at 02.05.13 19:47:10 by Morné Reply
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  • holy crap but the Landers have picked a formidable tight 5…. not sure taking those okes on without Bresler is a good idea.

  • Comment 136, posted at 02.05.13 21:43:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • Plummo…. Wtf????

    Locks and loosies…. Cmon!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 137, posted at 02.05.13 22:16:54 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 137) : at least I now know who to pick in my superbru which im going to make now….. Tnx Plum

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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 138) : ag hell I’m a fool for punishment, can’t get myself to pick against the Sharks on Superbru, just picked them to beat the Lander. GO SHARKS PLEEEEEAAAAASSSSSEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!! :shock:

  • Comment 139, posted at 02.05.13 23:16:15 by JD Reply
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  • @Saffex (Comment 80) : @VinChainSaw (Comment 79) :

    Oh My Word guys…Im not talking about positions its about BMT under pressure. And Yes ODriscoll comes up with the big plays in the big moments.

    Steyn wont. Players who have done that for the Sharks in recent times, are Lambie and Pienaar. And in fact Kanko seems to play well in finals.

    All Im trying to point out is a players ability to perform well, consistently under pressure. Those are the players you want in a winning team.

  • Comment 140, posted at 02.05.13 23:36:12 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • Rumours that Frans Steyn and JP Pietersen will miss the match through injury….anyone have updates?

  • Comment 141, posted at 03.05.13 06:05:45 by grant10 Reply

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  • @grant10 (Comment 141) : I haven’t seen anything like this. Who rumored it?

  • Comment 142, posted at 03.05.13 07:52:09 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 142) : Saw on Sky news….apparently both in doubt…

  • Comment 143, posted at 03.05.13 08:20:23 by grant10 Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 135) : Thank you – those were the exact words I was looking for – fucking daft

  • Comment 144, posted at 03.05.13 08:21:43 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @grant10 (Comment 143) : Lets hope they’re ready.

  • Comment 145, posted at 03.05.13 09:02:11 by Letgo Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 132) : Just for you, have a look at the picture ‘South Africa according to Capetonians’ here:
    http://blogs.sport24.co.za/thepride/2013/05/03/friday-funnies-12/#comments

  • Comment 146, posted at 03.05.13 09:47:05 by Greg Reply

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  • @Greg (Comment 146) :

    Lol. That’s not too far wrong!
    I know (many) people that have never been outside the Western Cape!

  • Comment 147, posted at 03.05.13 10:19:07 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 147) : And I know one or two who should not be allowed out of the Western Cape!

  • Comment 148, posted at 03.05.13 10:31:59 by Greg Reply

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  • @Greg (Comment 148) : LOL :)

  • Comment 149, posted at 03.05.13 10:43:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Greg (Comment 148) :

    True that!

  • Comment 150, posted at 03.05.13 10:50:20 by VinChainSaw Reply
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