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Changes (again) for Sharks


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 8 May 2013 at 11:03
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Sharks coach John Plumtree has made a number of changes, both enforced and unenforced, to his side as they prepare to take on the Reds on Friday.

The loss of centre Frans Steyn to a serious leg injury has necessitated a backline reshuffle, with JP Pietersen switching to outside centre and Piet Lindeque handed a start at right wing. The rest of the backline remains unchanged, which is a positive move given all the disruptions to date. Odwa Ndungane comes onto the bench to sit alongside Tian Meyer, as the only two backline replacements.

The front row is all-new, with Wiehahn Herbst switching from loosehead to tight and JC Janse van Rensburg handed a maiden start in the number 1 jersey. Jannie du Plessis takes his place on the bench, alongside new boy Monde Hadebe, who replaces injured Craig Burden as the standby hooker.

Tera Mtembu is another who’s had to cry off this week, after two successive starts at number 8 and his place at the back of the scrum goes to Keegan Daniel, with Jean Deysel ocming in at blindside flank and Marcell Coetzee moving over to the open. Willem Alberts has been named on the bench, along with Derick Minnie to cover the loose forward positions. The second row remains unchanged, with Anton Bresler providing bench cover for Pieter-Steph du Toit and Franco van der Merwe.

The Sharks

1. JC Janse van Rensburg
2. Kyle Cooper
3. Wiehahn Herbst
4. Pieter-Steph du Toit
5. Franco van der Merwe
6. Marcell Coetzee
7. Jean Deysel
8. Keegan Daniel (Capt)
9. Charl McLeod
10. Patrick Lambie
11. Lwazi Mvovo
12. Meyer Bosman
13. JP Pietersen
14. Piet Lindeque
15. Riaan Viljoen

Replacements
16. Monde Hadebe
17. Jannie du Plessis
18. Anton Bresler
19. Derick Minnie
20. Willem Alberts
21. Tian Meyer
22. Odwa Ndungane



48 Comments

  • I may have said this before, but I think we can win this ;-)

  • Comment 1, posted at 08.05.13 11:10:04 by Tintin Reply
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  • That is a potentially awesome front row. With Deysel there we will get some good go forward ball and Daniel can concentrate on doing the linking job that he does so well.

  • Comment 2, posted at 08.05.13 11:11:37 by KingRiaan Reply
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  • Looks like Cooper, PSD and Lambie are the only consistency in this team. Has Lambie now played every single minute of every game thus far this season?

  • Comment 3, posted at 08.05.13 11:14:07 by Viking Reply
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  • this is a very good team. No more excuses, Sharks…. we can and should win here

  • Comment 4, posted at 08.05.13 11:14:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • Only one I didn’t predict was JC, but I thought it would be a good move since Jannie is looking tired and both he and herbst is actually tightheads.

  • Comment 5, posted at 08.05.13 11:14:38 by Letgo Reply
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  • I do like the loose trio. Would have loved to See Albert come in at 8 though.

  • Comment 6, posted at 08.05.13 11:15:02 by Viking Reply
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  • The only changes I would make is to switch Pietersen and Lindeque, but even that I’m not sure about, and Bresler for van der Merwe.

  • Comment 7, posted at 08.05.13 11:15:11 by David12246 Reply

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  • @Viking (Comment 3) : No he was replaced in the Rebels game.

    So every single minute bar maybe 25

  • Comment 8, posted at 08.05.13 11:15:27 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Viking (Comment 3) : He was rested for about 20 minutes against the Rebels.

  • Comment 9, posted at 08.05.13 11:16:12 by David12246 Reply

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  • I think Plum is hoping he holds out until Butch is back, then will give him a rest

  • Comment 10, posted at 08.05.13 11:17:55 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 8) : @David12246 (Comment 9) : So he has played aboyt 780 of a possible 800 minutes this year. Scary!

  • Comment 11, posted at 08.05.13 11:18:25 by Viking Reply
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  • So the most consistent thing about this team would be the coaching staff and the results.

    2 + 2 = …?

  • Comment 12, posted at 08.05.13 11:18:50 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Heart says Sharks by 3 ,Super Bru says Reds by 5 :sad:

    If we cant pull it out the bag here with our backs to the wall, we’re toast. Expect us to have a good Currie Cup campaign and deem the year a relative success… :roll:

  • Comment 13, posted at 08.05.13 11:20:18 by Talent Reply
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  • Good looking team. We should beat the Reds. Just keep Gill away from our ball.

  • Comment 14, posted at 08.05.13 11:20:53 by PTAShark Reply
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  • Good team given what we’re working with. Sharks by 2.

  • Comment 15, posted at 08.05.13 11:25:19 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Should Alberts come on at 7 and Deysel move to 6, with Bresler replacing Franco, we could have an extremely powerful pack of forwards to close out the game with. Add Bissie in there in a week or 2.

  • Comment 16, posted at 08.05.13 11:26:17 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • I still don’t see Marcell as a 6, but aside from that it’s a very good team and if Marcell manages to disrupt the ruck a little, or we’ll probably see Deysel do that, then this is one of the more balanced trios we’ve played.

  • Comment 17, posted at 08.05.13 11:26:35 by Letgo Reply
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  • Frankly I think that consistency should rule and if Kanko didn’t tour because he was off form then Captain not-so-Fantastic (at the moment) should be given the same brow beating and sent packing back to Durban. It has been his poor leadership and defence in the last two games which have resulted in us losing the plot and the games.

    Last week against the Highlanders he was guilty of trying to talk to the Always-So-Fabulous-Mind-If-I-Touch-Your-Bottom-Walsh instead of concentrating on defence and left his channel undefended for the comeback try by the Highlanders scrumhalf.

    Rather drop him completely or to the bench. Let Deysel be captain and have Alberts at 8.

  • Comment 18, posted at 08.05.13 11:31:39 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 17) : at hte risk of opening a can of worms….

    What do you see Marcell as?

  • Comment 19, posted at 08.05.13 11:39:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 18) : I might be missing something, but I was pretty sure Keegan was the only oke who actually attempted a tackle when Smith scored that try…?

  • Comment 20, posted at 08.05.13 11:39:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • Our season is basically in tatters already, unless we can win all our remaining games, so lets hope the guys go out there now and just jol. A guy like Daniel looks like he is not enjoying playing at the moment. That is where a quack could come in handy.

  • Comment 21, posted at 08.05.13 11:42:02 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 19) : Ill answer that!!! He is a blindside like so many big boys in SA…hard as nails, big on D, carries hard. Not great on the ground. not great at linking either

  • Comment 22, posted at 08.05.13 11:56:55 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 22) : his carrying is a weakness at the moment. Battles to cross the advantage line.

  • Comment 23, posted at 08.05.13 12:04:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 21) : if this team can beat the Reds, then the cat is truly going to be among the pigeons.

  • Comment 24, posted at 08.05.13 12:05:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • And again we come to this point:
    - if dear old Plum and skipper Keegan play the right type of game with the right intensity and we can still win BECAUSE THAT IS THE POTENTIAL OF SA RUGBY. but the Reds play too smart for Plum. Gill will have to be checked

  • Comment 25, posted at 08.05.13 12:07:01 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : predictability is easy too defend against

  • Comment 26, posted at 08.05.13 12:08:09 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : Too true, instead of driving into the tackler ala Deysel, he turns his back towards the tacler, and then gets driven back in the tackle.

  • Comment 27, posted at 08.05.13 12:10:51 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 22) :
    I’m not sure where Marcell fits in at the moment. His work rate is high if you look at his tackle count, but he doesn’t cross the gain line with his carries if he goes into contact, and doesn’t look to shift the point of contact (either by running to space or passing the ball) at all. To be fair, I think he is going through a patch of poor form -I remember him hitting gaps and being pretty pacy last year – and he’ll get better.

    To really set the cat among the pigeons, I feel Deysel is better suited to 6 than 7. He is our most prolific ball stealer, his defense is solid and he can set up some good play from broken play with his offloads. His hands aren’t always the best, so he shouldn’t be the first receiver of the ball in a crash situation (which is what I would expect from a no. 7)

  • Comment 28, posted at 08.05.13 12:23:48 by josefgremlin Reply

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  • @josefgremlin (Comment 28) : I think Marcell is unsure of what role he is suppose to fill. He is getting asked to play like a fetcher but played like a 7.

  • Comment 29, posted at 08.05.13 12:28:44 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • Can’t say I rate JC. I find it strange that Franco continues to start ahead of the more physical Bresler. Daniel is not an 8, when will Plum wake up to this fact?

    Why is JP, a wing at 13 and Lindeque a 13, on the wing? But saying that I like JP at 13!

  • Comment 30, posted at 08.05.13 12:33:38 by Saffex Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : Don’t hold your breath on that one. The Reds are a very good team with Cooper and Genia running things again.

  • Comment 31, posted at 08.05.13 12:34:27 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Saffex (Comment 30) : I like the selection of JP at 13 only because affter last weeks showing, Piet must be dejected. Playing him at wing where he is a bit further removed from the action, might be a good way of getting his confidence up

  • Comment 32, posted at 08.05.13 12:36:18 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @josefgremlin (Comment 28) : I think you have to look at the coaching!! if someone is doing something wrong (not passing, or stepping into the gap) then the coach should give him the advice. if the player continues in this vein then he is not good enough….

    More importantly I think the Bok setup messed him up. because as you say he was hitting gaps with pace and even offloading last year

  • Comment 33, posted at 08.05.13 12:47:59 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : what is the truth in these rumours of Lindeque running sub 11 or close for the 100m??

  • Comment 34, posted at 08.05.13 12:49:59 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 33) :

    I remember clearly last year when the NZlanders were raving about Marcell on Reunion that TJ said something like ‘ Marcell Coetzee is like Schalk Burger with an offload’

    I want that Marcell back.

  • Comment 35, posted at 08.05.13 12:52:31 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Just realised that Lindeque will have to cover Digby Ioane. :shock:

  • Comment 36, posted at 08.05.13 13:09:50 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 32) : Fair call, pity Lindeque let is slip a little last week after such a good debut

  • Comment 37, posted at 08.05.13 13:23:06 by Saffex Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : The problem is that he looked about as interested in that tackle as I was in becoming a Bulls supporter. Only tackled cos Smith ran right into him.

  • Comment 38, posted at 08.05.13 13:57:16 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 35) : I know right!!! Last year he was hitting gaps. Twisting and turning through hits and then offloading…

    bad Bok Marcell, bad

  • Comment 39, posted at 08.05.13 14:05:37 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • However the Sharks choose to change the team all I wish for is some consistency week to week , yes everyone has an off day but try to keep the same team once you have made a choice, the players need the consistency to keep up performances.

  • Comment 40, posted at 08.05.13 14:07:32 by snowflake Reply

     
  • @Pokkel (Comment 36) : Only one man can stop Digby in full flight…LOUIS LUDIK!!!

  • Comment 41, posted at 08.05.13 14:07:34 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • On the Marcell topic, why not get him to play some 7′s so he can get some confidence back and learn how to run into space and pass the ball to create space? Just an idea, though it back if you dont like it

  • Comment 42, posted at 08.05.13 14:07:50 by Tintin Reply

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  • @Tintin (Comment 42) : Im a fan of the idea…but this is SA rugby. THat is far too advanced, attacking thinking for SA rugby..

  • Comment 43, posted at 08.05.13 14:17:48 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 38) :
    That penalty was given within 10 metres from our try line.

    Therefor Daniel had to get behind the line first and then come forward to defend. Catch 22 and he couldn’t, realistically, do anything about it.

    Had he made the tackle without retreating, Im pretty sure Welsh would have had no option but to award a penalty try.

  • Comment 44, posted at 08.05.13 14:18:08 by John Galt Reply

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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 38) : I think its harsh to nail KD for that, he and JP were the only ones that were watching for a quick tap, the other players should have been watching

  • Comment 45, posted at 08.05.13 14:29:06 by Tintin Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 19) : A ball carrying forward,so blindside or eightman, but he’s young and has the potential to move to open side if that’s what he wants, but so far it hasn’t seemed like he tends to try and do the same work that Brussow would do. He, like Daniel tends to wait for the ball to come to them instead of working close to the contact point.

    Having said that if he concentrates on a few things and tries to play the game good opensides play then I have no issues with him shifting to openside, but Plum shouldn’t shift him from one position to another either.

  • Comment 46, posted at 08.05.13 14:35:50 by Letgo Reply
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  • @josefgremlin (Comment 28) : I agree with you. Marcell is a ball carrier playing without any players around him willing to set up good clean, quick possesion for him to run unto. He was our best ball carrier last year, but that was when he was getting clean ball and wasn’t expected to clean out, as well as make most of the meters.

    He had a lot more space to work with.

  • Comment 47, posted at 08.05.13 14:39:44 by Letgo Reply
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  • Really nice to see some positive critique on the players! Nice thread!

  • Comment 48, posted at 09.05.13 09:29:36 by Ice Reply
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