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Overseas quota for Springboks?


Written by Scott Bevan (The Hobbit)

Posted in :In the news, Original Content, Springboks, The Rugby Championship on 7 Aug 2013 at 09:50
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A debate has been raging in my office after the announcement of the 30 man Bok squad for the home leg of the upcoming Castle Rugby Championship, in regards to the amount of overseas based players that Heyneke Meyer has selected. Should this be allowed? I read somewhere that Heyneke is basically letting these players ‘Have their cake, and eat it’.

A third of the 30 man squad will be made up of players based abroad. These 10 players are:

Guthro Steenkamp (Toulouse), Juandre Kruger (Racing Metro 92), Chilliboy Ralepelle (Toulouse), Francois Louw (Bath), Zane Kirchner (Leinster), Bryan Habana (Toulon), Morné Steyn (Stade Francais), Ruan Pienaar (Ulster), Fourie du Preez (Suntory Sungoliath) and Jano Vermaak (Toulouse).

In a an interview with Die Burger’s website, Jurie Roux, SARU CEO, has said that a limit on the number of overseas based players included in the squad could be set in the future.

“Yes, it’s something we are considering. But within the context of a constantly changing industry that is fast developing into a global sport rather than just being a national sport in terms of opportunities offered,” said Roux.

“Players playing locally will always get first consideration, provided that the selectors have faith in their abilities.

“However, we are in a unique current situation with six players (Kirchner, Habana, Steyn, Vermaak, Kruger and Ralepelle), who were part of the Bok squad this past year, now deciding to go overseas. You can’t just replace so many players in the middle of the season.

“But these players know their chances of playing for South Africa in future cannot be guaranteed.”

Roux said it could offer an opportunity for new young players to make a name for themselves but nevertheless confirmed they will be attending to the matter.

“Naturally, it is concerning and we are working on a plan to ensure that our top players do not head abroad.”

Is the inclusion of these overseas based players unfair on those who have chosen to play local rugby rather than seek larger pay cheque abroad? Or should these local Bok stars strike while the iron is hot and go for the money in France, Japan and the UK. Is Heyneke sending out the wrong message?

Maybe I’m wrong but keep SA talent in SA.

Thoughts?



22 Comments

  • i agree with you there players that leave should not play for the springbokke and second thing is it’s easy to replace those 10 players but again those players are hm favorits that’s way they are there

  • Comment 1, posted at 07.08.13 09:58:48 by sharks4eve2013 Reply
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  • We have so many really talented scrumhalves in the country so why does Meyer call up his former Bulls buddy Du Preez that is way past his sell date anyway.

  • Comment 2, posted at 07.08.13 10:01:38 by TELECASTER Reply
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  • Hobbit, is maar net want ‘n kakhuis vol bloubulle nou oorseese spelers geword het!
    In Afrikaans there’s a saying: Jy pluk ‘n lat vir jou eie gat!
    In my opinion meaning Heineken has opened a can of worms now in SA rugby!!! YES surly you don’t replace 6 first team springboks in the middle of a season (look at how kak the sharks where), but in my book some of them NEVER deserved a callup in the 1st place.
    Ayway – just my 5cents worth of rambling!
    GO SAAAAAAKS!!!!

  • Comment 3, posted at 07.08.13 10:02:04 by R Hayward Reply
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  • In my books, I would only have called up Habana, Peinaar and as much as it pains me to say this….Steyn. And to the rest i say ‘totsiens, lekker bly, geniet julle vakansie’

  • Comment 4, posted at 07.08.13 10:07:14 by The Hobbit Reply
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  • @TELECASTER (Comment 2) : love the nic…. do you play one?

  • Comment 5, posted at 07.08.13 10:09:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • Pick the overseas players. As long as the best available Bok team plays. And wins. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 6, posted at 07.08.13 10:30:19 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 6) : would you have picked that 10?

  • Comment 7, posted at 07.08.13 10:32:44 by The Hobbit Reply
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  • @The Hobbit (Comment 7) : Are we discussing whether Meyer picked too many foreign based players, or whether he picked too many foreign based players some people don’t rate?

  • Comment 8, posted at 07.08.13 10:38:40 by McLovin Reply

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  • Out of that 10, 8 is old Bulls. Now if that does not point to favoritism from HM then I don’t know.

  • Comment 9, posted at 07.08.13 10:39:36 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • If playing abroad isn’t a problem, then why not pick JP? Oh ja, because then that useless Basson will be stuck carrying tackle bags.

  • Comment 10, posted at 07.08.13 10:41:01 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 8) : both. I believe in local is lekker and part of the argument stems from the 10 picked. I would say that the 10 picked are not all necessarily the best in the country.

  • Comment 11, posted at 07.08.13 10:43:01 by The Hobbit Reply
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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 10) : JP was a contractual issue

  • Comment 12, posted at 07.08.13 10:43:36 by The Hobbit Reply
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  • @The Hobbit (Comment 11) : With the number of overseas boks I don’t have a problem.

    As far as individuals go there will always be some disagreement no matter where they are based.

  • Comment 13, posted at 07.08.13 10:47:25 by McLovin Reply

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  • Also, Meyer is certainly not the first or last coach to pick his favourites. All coaches do that.

  • Comment 14, posted at 07.08.13 10:49:01 by McLovin Reply

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  • In my opinion there are far too many overseas based players. We should only make an exception if there is no one else in South Africa. If a South African based player is almost as good then I would want the local player picked. I would only go for the overseas player if he really was far better than anyone local.

  • Comment 15, posted at 07.08.13 10:49:30 by lostfish Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 14) : Don’t take this the wrong way, but for a WP ou you seem to smaaak oom Heineken???

  • Comment 16, posted at 07.08.13 11:07:36 by R Hayward Reply

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  • @R Hayward (Comment 16) : Just reckon the Bok coach deserves a fair crack. Bok coaches seem to go very quickly from messiah to lucifer incarnate for mainly two reason imo. One, he’s from a different province, and two, the Boks aren’t winning every test by 100 points.

  • Comment 17, posted at 07.08.13 11:19:56 by McLovin Reply

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  • Most likely outcome for Meyer is that he will end with a 65% – 70% win ratio. Pretty much the long term standard for the Boks.

  • Comment 18, posted at 07.08.13 11:22:14 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 18) : Heck, I’ll take a 30% win ratio over the AB’s as a start. Thus far old HM is stuck on 0%.

    Win the home games against the kiwis and ozzies and maybe one away win over the ozzies, which shouldl be the bare minimum to be expected for HM’s second year in charge.

    If should be a VERY realistic target.

  • Comment 19, posted at 07.08.13 11:32:09 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 18) : Did you know… He was the stormers assistant couch in their most successful season? 1999.
    Anyway, I too was one whom called for him as coach back in 2007, but since then REALLY started to doubt the ou.
    And this year is NO different. Still doubt the ou, whom does not seem to think ahead on development. (new blood)

  • Comment 20, posted at 07.08.13 11:33:43 by R Hayward Reply

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  • @R Hayward (Comment 20) : Yes, he was at SWD if I remember correctly.

  • Comment 21, posted at 07.08.13 11:36:48 by McLovin Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 19) : Sounds good to me.

  • Comment 22, posted at 07.08.13 11:38:33 by McLovin Reply

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