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Let’s just blame the ref


Written by Scott Bevan (The Hobbit)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 12 Aug 2013 at 14:32
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I am probably going to get a bit of flak for this but here goes….

I found myself doing it again this weekend and it really gets under my skin. I started blaming the ref for the Sharks loss. I shouted at the TV, called the ref blind, offered the ref my spectacles all because MY team was losing. I didn’t think much of it until I overheard a telephone conversation this morning where our loss was placed in the hands of Jason Jafta. Conversations and comments like these are being overheard by school kids who will in turn think its right to blame every loss or call on a ‘cheating’ ref.

Now before you all start pointing out where Jafta got it wrong for the Sharks, I want to say that a post-match analysis will show that he also got it wrong for the Griquas. Maybe not as many bad calls for the Peacock Blue outfit but he made bad calls both ways.

It seems that the culture of looking for a scapegoat other than the team themselves seems to be growing. From park touch rugby to international rugby, it’s always the ref. How many times have you heard “[email protected]#ck the Sharks have Watson this weekend, we’re definitely going to lose that one” or “Man United had Howard playing for them again….”?

The referees do not walk on to a field with a ‘favourite’. These guys are professional and do get scrutinised and punished if they don’t do their job well. These guys have done extensive training courses and exams to be refereeing at a particular level!

The Sharks this weekend were solely to blame for the loss. They were flat, indecisive and just seemed to be slow off the mark. If our scrum gets pushed back, can we blame Jafta? No we can’t! Can we blame the new binding call? No we can’t! We can only blame the team and back room staff for not doing what they get paid to do.

RANT OVER!



102 Comments

  • The sharks didn’t play with any heart nor passion. On the other side the Griquas played with passion and derserve to have won.. My point is, is that the sharks players aren’t well manage and I think personally they have NO passion or heart to play any rugby, I am going on superbru with the lions with ±50 because sharks are going to lose badly and show us again that they only play for the money

  • Comment 1, posted at 12.08.13 14:38:34 by Flippie Reply
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  • Can’t agree more. Did Jafta make some mistakes? Of course, he’s human as am I.

    But the better team on the day won.

  • Comment 2, posted at 12.08.13 14:42:43 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • I actually rate Jafta as one of the fairest, honest refs in the game.

  • Comment 3, posted at 12.08.13 14:44:08 by The Hobbit Reply
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  • @Flippie (Comment 1) : sorry to have to put this quite so bluntly, but that’s a completely idiotic thing to say.

    Either you have an axe to grind against the Sharks, or you’ve added a moerse shot of brannas to your morning coffee… come on, which is it?

  • Comment 4, posted at 12.08.13 14:44:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • Comment 3: When last did you see charl mcleod pass a ball like a scrumhalf must pass a ball, when did you ever see someone steal a ball in the hands of the big man Jean deysel

  • Comment 5, posted at 12.08.13 14:48:47 by Flippie Reply

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  • @Flippie (Comment 5) : Sorry but i don’t follow?

  • Comment 6, posted at 12.08.13 14:52:54 by The Hobbit Reply
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  • Like Bernard Stander he had a bad game but he won’t play against the lions at all, that I can promise you and we have such good talent and we don’t use it at all, like hanco venter en stefan

  • Comment 7, posted at 12.08.13 14:55:58 by Flippie Reply

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  • @Flippie (Comment 5) : Last I checked that wasn’t passion or commitment. That’s form.

    Charl might be suffering a little bit of a confidence issue as Reinach kept him on the bench right until he got injured and that was the only way he got a look back in. He played well when he came back but with Reinach back to full fitness there might be a bit of a question in the back of the mind if he’s gonna get dropped again.

  • Comment 8, posted at 12.08.13 14:56:36 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @Flippie (Comment 7) : Who’s Bernard Stander? Brynard’s father?

  • Comment 9, posted at 12.08.13 14:57:08 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • We could be lucky to have 2 wins in this currie cup but we going to go to regalation rounds and then the pumas will take your place next year

  • Comment 10, posted at 12.08.13 14:57:33 by Flippie Reply

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  • It wasn’t Jafta! The Sharks played off 9 all night which meant that it was going to be a game dominated by the forwards. Only problem 9 was way off track as were the tight 5. Stander has never been a fetcher – would have thought that the Rovers coaches would have known that. Botes is the genuine fetcher and Tera a geniune 8. If one onjury requires 2 personel changes then so be it.
    Brendon Venter says Brad is head coach, Smit says Brad and Sean both assistant coaches. Brad is sent to face the press after the game. Where was the director of coaching – he has the experience is this area. Smit on the park in warm up and after the game – his job is upstairs and not in the team space. He should concentrate on getting more than 7000 spectators

  • Comment 11, posted at 12.08.13 14:57:45 by BBB Reply

     
  • Bernard stander is the guy who played blindside flank for the sharks friday against the griquas

  • Comment 12, posted at 12.08.13 14:58:38 by Flippie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : I’m def going the Brannas option….

  • Comment 13, posted at 12.08.13 14:59:35 by The Hobbit Reply
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  • @Flippie (Comment 12) : Um, that’s Brynard Stander.

    Think you watched the wrong game.

  • Comment 14, posted at 12.08.13 15:00:07 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @The Hobbit (Comment 13) : Forgot the Brannas. Think the tokolosh took a steaming hot dump in his oatmeal.

  • Comment 15, posted at 12.08.13 15:01:03 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @BBB (Comment 11) : Brendan has stated that the media will be left to the 2 coaches. Although i would love him to give an interview like he did when at Sarries

  • Comment 16, posted at 12.08.13 15:05:38 by The Hobbit Reply
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  • Flippie I don’t think you know what you talking about the Sharks winning 2 games and then loosing to the Pumas,its the 1st match with new coaches give them time and they will make you eat your words,if you such a Big sharks supporter then why do talk like that?

  • Comment 17, posted at 12.08.13 15:16:22 by Duncan Betteridge Reply

     
  • @Duncan Betteridge (Comment 17) : thank you Duncan! Agree withe you 100%

  • Comment 18, posted at 12.08.13 15:22:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @The Hobbit (Comment 16) : that was the most bizzare interview ever

  • Comment 19, posted at 12.08.13 15:31:19 by Ludz Reply

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  • “We could be lucky to have 2 wins in this currie cup but we going to go to regalation rounds and then the pumas will take your place next year” Excuse me Flippie, I don’t like dissing other bloggers, but are you a troll by any chance? Because if The Sharks was your team, surely then your sentence should have read “…the Pumas will take our place next year” not so, so why then don’t you let us worry about the Sharks and you go and worry about your own team?

  • Comment 20, posted at 12.08.13 15:35:01 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Duncan Betteridge (Comment 17) : Agreed! I have been thinking HARD before saying anything today!
    Ouens The TEAM (incl managers etc) THEY need our support now! We can start blaming after the CC season was a flop! John tweeted that this was not how they wanted to start they 11 week plan. So they must have a vision and a path of correction after setbacks. ANYWAY I was so disappointed that I started downing beers when we where 10-nill down. Hence my total silence… Just remember change does not come easy! THEY need US now!!!!! I know we need them to brag, but THEY need US now more than ever!!!
    GO SAAAAKS!!!

  • Comment 21, posted at 12.08.13 15:37:09 by R Hayward Reply

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  • @BBB (Comment 11) : @The Hobbit (Comment 16) : Maybe Brendan should rethink that strategy in light of the savaging the Afrikaans press (Rapport) gave BMH in their match report article.

  • Comment 22, posted at 12.08.13 15:49:57 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • I thought this article was about the ref, but Im glad that its been redirected to the real reason for our loss. : :twisted:

  • Comment 23, posted at 12.08.13 15:55:26 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • HOOR HOOR !!!!!

    I have started to think that blaming the ref is South Africa’s national team sport . We seem to have the best players . if only the ref would realize that ?!?!?!

  • Comment 24, posted at 12.08.13 15:56:20 by Zibbie Reply
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  • Thanks guys for agreeing with me,but now that I had time to think about what Frikkie said,I will not blame the Coaches nor the Players I won’t even Blame the Ref but I will Blame Supporters Like Frikkie!!(That is if he even is a Sharks supporter,if he isn’t the same goes to him either way) ia Sharks supporter my Wife is a Loin and you know what we enjoy it,she stands with me when the Sharks play any other team and ill stand by her when her team is playing anyone but the Sharks,the Sharks are Building to higher strides and I’m helping them build it

  • Comment 25, posted at 12.08.13 15:58:55 by Duncan Betteridge Reply

     
  • @Duncan Betteridge (Comment 25) : Oh man then you’ve got it coming this weekend!!! Good luck!

  • Comment 26, posted at 12.08.13 16:11:55 by R Hayward Reply

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  • Haha thanks R Hayward I will not be the one sleeping in the dog box come friday

  • Comment 27, posted at 12.08.13 16:17:29 by Duncan Betteridge Reply

     
  • @Duncan Betteridge (Comment 27) : Jislaaik ja! The ouens must come right now!!!

  • Comment 28, posted at 12.08.13 16:22:46 by R Hayward Reply

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  • One thing about Jason Jafta – he can be a card. That death stare of his at that player who talked back was the funniest thing I ever saw in a rugby game. Remind me – which game was it?

  • Comment 29, posted at 12.08.13 18:29:23 by Caratacus Reply

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  • My point is the sharks will lose the weekend against the lions with ±50 points just saying its my opinion

  • Comment 30, posted at 12.08.13 19:20:20 by Flippie Reply

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  • :twisted: No Jafta had a shocker! It is difficult to contest a ball on the ground when everyone goes of their feet and dives into the ruck. The stopping of the malls was contradictive as well. But the Kwasse played it well. I wanted Botes to call these to the refs attention, but it was only Deysel who was penalised for going of his feet.
    We could have done better with our ball, though. Playing of 9 is not a bad call, but then then we must protect 9. Odwa was good on the attack from behind but our tactical kicking stays a problem to sort out. I needed to see more grunt from Edward and no6. Hope they are as disappointed as we are with the loss and are ready to leave some skin on the field this weekend. :twisted:

  • Comment 31, posted at 12.08.13 19:49:04 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @Flippie (Comment 30) : my opinion is that you know NOTHING :)

  • Comment 32, posted at 12.08.13 20:00:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • Flippie I think you should rather not be a Sharks supporter anymore,rather Join the Bulls,we don’t need Supporters like you,the Sharks don’t need you,and if I would give you my opinion Rob would kick me out of his Site,so Flippie thanks for nothing and we don’t need your opinion

  • Comment 33, posted at 12.08.13 20:53:21 by Duncan Betteridge Reply

     
  • A few rows behind me at the game there were two young whippersnaps sitting, shouting the whole game. True little rugby supporters I thought. Cheering for their team on and on and on and on and then they said something that made my hair stand on end.

    “C’mon ref give this game to the Sharks!!!” Says it all about the image the public has about referees these days. :(

  • Comment 34, posted at 13.08.13 04:22:01 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Flippie (Comment 10) : :shock: :shock: :shock: [email protected] MY!!!!!!! Jy is meer negatief as ek. En dit aleen behoort vir jou te laat besef jy het fout.

  • Comment 35, posted at 13.08.13 04:24:03 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I must admit I was frustrated with some of Jafta’s calls, but the Sharks should never have been in the position to lose the game in the last minute against the Griquas in Durban. Our own fault. There were glimpses of things to come so I’m not too worried, we’ll get it right soon.

    The Griquas killed us in the scrum and their close to the ruck defence was pretty brutal with their line lying very very flat and rushing up on the big guys to rob them of momentum. I would have liked to see the Sharks changing their game plan when it was evident that we were getting pretty much hammered close in. The players should have the confidence to change things up when they realise things aren’t working and they’ll get there. The new coaches aren’t wizards, it’ll take a little time for them to get into a new rhythm.

    Flippie, I actually hope you are nothing but a troll. If I EVER felt that my beloved Sharks will lose by 50 to the damn lions I’d kill myself.

  • Comment 36, posted at 13.08.13 08:26:18 by PTAShark Reply
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  • Good morning chaps.. Aii you guys don’t have anything else to do than to complain about the truth, if we can’t win the weakest team in the currie cup on hone durf we will not win one game at all

  • Comment 37, posted at 13.08.13 08:35:36 by Flippie Reply

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  • Maybe I can be wrong but I don’t have a lot of hope in the sharks this weekend I don’t think we will win against this strong passionate lions team, just saying my opinion

  • Comment 38, posted at 13.08.13 08:38:53 by Flippie Reply

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  • @Flippie (Comment 37) : :mrgreen: :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 39, posted at 13.08.13 08:39:44 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Flippie (Comment 37) : First game with new coaching structures you chop. And the Griquas are damn hard to beat early in the season with full strength squad. We lost our first game against them last year as well and made the final. Go learn some history before talking rubbish.

  • Comment 40, posted at 13.08.13 08:41:29 by PTAShark Reply
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  • @Flippie (Comment 37) : I hereby dub you Flippie the troll. Just like Shrek, except you’re a troll and not an ogre.

    And Shrek is a little funny and sort of grows on you.

    You’re just sad. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 41, posted at 13.08.13 08:41:41 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @Flippie (Comment 37) : Please repeat in either English or Afrikaans so we might have a chance to understand you and letting you know you talk kak :mrgreen:

  • Comment 42, posted at 13.08.13 08:46:51 by The Hobbit Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 41) : Flippie also grows on you, but he’s more like a rash….or mould :twisted:

  • Comment 43, posted at 13.08.13 08:46:52 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Talking about history hahaha, it doesn’t make a different about history dumbass its about wht the sharks does now not about what they did in history and what’s your histoey against the lions hey?? Oh yeah its also not good

  • Comment 44, posted at 13.08.13 08:48:04 by Flippie Reply

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  • @The Hobbit (Comment 3) : But do you think he is a good ref?

  • Comment 45, posted at 13.08.13 08:57:41 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Jason jafta is a fantastic ref don’t blame it on the ref blame it on the passion of the sharks that is that they don’t have any bloody passion at all

  • Comment 46, posted at 13.08.13 08:59:02 by Flippie Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 34) : Hope you enjoyed the game (other than the result of course). Knowing you were at the game I was wondering what your thoughts on the reffing were in real time as the game was being blown.

  • Comment 47, posted at 13.08.13 08:59:38 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Flippie (Comment 44) : “… your histoey… ” Ai meneer. Tik liewer in Afrikaans en n goedhartige Afrikaanse Sharks ondersteuner soos ek sal jou help met die vertaling en sinskonstruksie. That said… you’re obviously not a Sharks supporter… I don’t know many Sharks supporters that would refer to OUR team as YOUR :cool:

  • Comment 48, posted at 13.08.13 09:09:26 by SuperEtts Reply
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  • @Superetts meneer is hierdie n spel klas of wat, en luister hierso dis nie die plek om onderwyser, onderwyser te speel nie

  • Comment 49, posted at 13.08.13 09:12:07 by Flippie Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 45) : I dont think he is a bad ref. He is no Craig Joubert but he is not bad. Not to international standard as yet but could see him being a very good ref

  • Comment 50, posted at 13.08.13 09:20:54 by The Hobbit Reply
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  • Jafta’s positioning at ruck and maul time was not all that great.

    In addition he looked nervous at times and gave the impression that he actually was by referring quite a number of simple decisions to the TV Ref for adjudication. He ended up being poor both ways and as any ex-player knows the Ref is part of the game. You need to play beyond poor decisions.

    Our set pieces were not crisp enough and we allowed ourselves to either get beaten by Griquas or penalised by the Ref.

    Our scrums are dismal and need to be sorted out. The Lions will hurt us on Friday if we try the same kind of intensity against them.

    Our backline lacked cohesion and dare I say leadership. They did well considering it’s a new combination and we can only hope a guy like Ludik puts up his hand and leads by example.

    All in all… We were poor. Griquas are always a tough nut to crack. You have to respect a team that practices on a field that’s harder than tarmac.

  • Comment 51, posted at 13.08.13 09:25:53 by SuperEtts Reply
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  • @Flippie (Comment 49) : Poor grammar and spelling make your comments harder to read :)

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  • @SuperEtts (Comment 48) : Ek stem saam. Die twak vat hy nou praat lat my dink sy koppie raas so bietjie (my spelling may be off)

  • Comment 53, posted at 13.08.13 09:28:19 by The Hobbit Reply
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  • @Flippie (Comment 44) : Your point of view was that since we lost against the “weakest” team, we’ll lose all the games. We lost to the Griquas last year and made the final, so your deductions about Fridays loss is incorrect.

    We are quite civil here on most occasions to each other, so name calling isn’t justified. Go troll on keo’s site if you want an internet fight.

  • Comment 54, posted at 13.08.13 09:59:01 by PTAShark Reply
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  • You guys know your spelling rules very good but your rugby you guys are screwless with that, lions going to walk away with a bonus point in the bag and 50 points on the end result

  • Comment 55, posted at 13.08.13 10:03:07 by Flippie Reply

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  • @SuperEtts (Comment 51) : We hardly used the back line when we got into their 22. We seemed hell-bent on bashing it up with a forward pack that was actually bullied by the Kwas, while our very experienced back line bar one was catching a cold. It got so bad that centres started joining mauls just to get in on the action. Even Plum (whose teams were guilty of the same BTW) commented on it at halftime.

    Bash-up rugby becomes very easy to defend against, especially if you playing against a hardened pack like the Kwas. We on the other hand struggled to contain the Kwas pick and drive.

    I think the coaching team is obviously still finding their feet and needs to be given time to settle in.

  • Comment 56, posted at 13.08.13 10:03:08 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Flippie (Comment 55) : I can like to think that my english is delicious but I have never heard that expression before… screwless. What can that like to be?

    Dude, you aren’t a Sharks supporter.

  • Comment 57, posted at 13.08.13 10:06:36 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • I am a sharks supporter for 60 years now

  • Comment 58, posted at 13.08.13 10:10:17 by Flippie Reply

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  • @PTAShark (Comment 54) : We did not lose to Griquas at home…not last year or at any time while Plum was coach.

  • Comment 59, posted at 13.08.13 10:17:40 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 56) : I was sitting next to a guy at the game on Saturday and he made quite a fair comment. Back in the day we used to play the expansive running game and kept on losing to the bash-up / 10-man game the Bulls played. We either got tired of losing or the low risk Springbok game rubbed off, but either way the Sharks started playing more physical bash-up rugby. As supporters we liked seeing it, because we liked dishing out what we had been receiving for so long.

    Enter the now and we end up with a 10-man pack utilised at maul time where our centres are having to join in to give weight advantage. I don’t get this by the way. If our forwards can’t maul without the centres there is something wrong with the technique…. but I digress

    The 10-man maul is eventually stopped – be it that we travelled from our own 10m line to their 22m line – we get told to use it and what happens? We have no backline. In fact we end up with Jean Deysel being the lone recipient on the short side having to face three defenders…. penalty.

  • Comment 60, posted at 13.08.13 10:25:01 by SuperEtts Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 57) : at the moment i am speech-leeeeeessssss

  • Comment 61, posted at 13.08.13 10:27:31 by The Hobbit Reply
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  • @Flippie (Comment 58) : Good to know, but sad to see you’ve become that cynical

  • Comment 62, posted at 13.08.13 10:28:16 by SuperEtts Reply
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  • There are very few good refs. someone will always disagree with them. So what should a side with 5 Springboks in the starting lineup do? Surely the experience in this Sharks line up is more than equipped to deal with some “questionable” decisions! 5 Other players have vast Super rugby experience. Come on, this game is not Jaftas fault!!!

    Is it because there are new coaches? They said that they changed very little, “just a tweak here and there”. It certainly didnt look like it. Either the players have no idea what has been asked of them, could not adapt to what they have practiced, they actually are not a good team or there may not be what Smit has spoken about all the time – refreshing enthuiasm!

    Botes and Odwa only two who were worth anything. Louis wanted to go and Sharks refused, so he’s not happy, Charl needs to face reality and see that he is playing poor poor rugby, front row should have but could not???? Lock pairing needs to change and finally maybe let Butch control the game more! If playing like we did was his call then change him too

  • Comment 63, posted at 13.08.13 10:29:14 by BBB Reply

     
  • @Flippie (Comment 58) : With that attitude, I’m surprised you still called yourself a fan in the dark days of the B league.

  • Comment 64, posted at 13.08.13 10:29:24 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @SuperEtts (Comment 60) : I think it is a case of more variation needed when on attack in the oppo 22. Nothing wrong with using bash-up rugby, but silly to only use it. It becomes predictable and easy to defend against.

    The Bulls don’t play 10 man rugby BTW. Once their forwards have created space, they do use their back line in the strike zone. That it why they have been the top try scoring S15 team in SA for a number of years now, with many of those tries scored by back line players.

    The Sharks seems to use the back line in the middle of the field, but then once we in the strike zone the forwards start bashing up.

  • Comment 65, posted at 13.08.13 10:31:30 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 59) : It was in Kimberley, but we still lost to them.

  • Comment 66, posted at 13.08.13 10:35:28 by PTAShark Reply
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  • @PTAShark (Comment 66) : Huge difference losing a home game to losing a game in Kimberley, of all places. Winning away games are bonuses, losing home games can sink you.

  • Comment 67, posted at 13.08.13 10:39:47 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 65) : What I forgot to add is that the Bulls have adapted and moved away from the 10 man game. So I agree they don’t play it now. Percentage wise the Sharks probably play more forwards rugby. This leaves us very vulnerable when we don’t have our key forwards during the Curie Cup. It also exposes our backline. The poor okes can’t win either way. They don’t have a steady platform from which to attack nor are they able to adapt quickly enough to a more attacking or running type of game because they don’t have the structures in place.

  • Comment 68, posted at 13.08.13 10:45:48 by SuperEtts Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 67) : My point is that the sharks should never lose to the Griquas. We did it last year and made the final, we’ll do it again. It’s much more difficult to beat them in Kimberley, but that is what we should do now.

  • Comment 69, posted at 13.08.13 10:47:27 by PTAShark Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 67) : Salmo, there’s another big difference here.

    Playing Griquas in the first round (regardless of venue) v playing them in the second round. Correct me if I’m wrong, but this is the first time in a while that we’ve faced Griquas at home first?

    We have to concede the point that Griquas have been preparing for this competition for around 3 months, with a settled squad and coaching team. They haven’t yet been hit by injuries either. In other words, Round 1 is the worst possible time to play Griquas

  • Comment 70, posted at 13.08.13 10:50:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Flippie (Comment 58) : you talk kak. I’ve seen your photo on Facebook and you’re closer to 18 than you are to 80.

  • Comment 71, posted at 13.08.13 10:51:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Flippie (Comment 30) : nooit, you right in saying its your opinion but that’s about it

  • Comment 72, posted at 13.08.13 11:02:13 by pierre_mackie Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 71) : :lol:

  • Comment 73, posted at 13.08.13 11:04:06 by pierre_mackie Reply
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  • @Flippie (Comment 10) : Lions lost against Kings at home, and won in PE by an intercept try, the only way the Lions will get close to 50 against the Sharks is if Lourens vs Merwe is the ref

  • Comment 74, posted at 13.08.13 11:10:26 by pierre_mackie Reply
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  • @pierre_mackie (Comment 74) : oh Lord… please tell me he isn’t????

  • Comment 75, posted at 13.08.13 11:12:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 70) : Griquas are always hard and yes first up even harder but in all honesty with our lineup, experience, home ground advantage, etc we should have won and got a bonus point. (I actually thought the tide had turned in the game and that we would win comfortably at one stage)

    Griquas were also disrupted (slightly) with Super rugby call ups and they also have some new faces and they had a really bad (for them) Vodacom Cup so to be honest I dont really know how good this Griquas (or Sharks for that matter)team really is.

  • Comment 76, posted at 13.08.13 11:37:15 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • The last time we lost to the Griquas in the opening round (40 – 34) we ending up winning the final against WP. :cool:

  • Comment 77, posted at 13.08.13 11:38:32 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @pierre_mackie (Comment 74) : Well the Lions have already munched us once this year and if we dont get our scrum sorted out I can see the same happening again.

  • Comment 78, posted at 13.08.13 11:38:44 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 76) : I think the Griquas are always a little bit of unknown quantity going into the Currie Cup. They have changed from last year and you don’t get to see them in Super Rugby.

    Plus how many ex-Sharks were in that team and wanted to prove a point?

    I thought it was going to be close and that they were going to fight right to the end. I thought we’d win but never a landslide win.

  • Comment 79, posted at 13.08.13 11:41:55 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 77) : Was that in 2010….I would love a link to the comments after that game and the subsequent articles, some really heavy, nasty stuff was spewed. The team and coaches are having an easy ride with the bloggers after this home loss.

  • Comment 80, posted at 13.08.13 11:46:13 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 79) : Yes the guys with a point to prove, forgot about them. I really thought that we had weathered the storm and were going to win the game with a bonus point – we had done so well to reduce the deficit and go into the lead that it certainly seemed on.

  • Comment 81, posted at 13.08.13 11:48:58 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 81) : Haha, the start of your reply sounds a little bit like Brenden Venter’s response to those English journalists.

    I had the same feeling that we were going to win with a bonus point, but I thought the Griquas would always be close and fighting at the end and get their own bonus point for losing within 7.

  • Comment 82, posted at 13.08.13 11:51:20 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 71) : BWAHAHAHAHA!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 83, posted at 13.08.13 11:53:23 by Caratacus Reply

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  • Griquas have always been one of those really dangerous sides. Every year they pull out some surprise performances that shock the bigger teams. Last year winning 3 in a row against Lions, Sharks and Bulls. With the bulls getting rather thumped in that one and Lions getting beaten home and away by them.

  • Comment 84, posted at 13.08.13 11:54:30 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 82) : I had my deadpan face on while writing that.

  • Comment 85, posted at 13.08.13 11:55:25 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 80) : What can we say really? I for one suspected we`ll lose and we duly did.
    We can`t expect results with what we`ve got right now.
    Letting Bosman go.
    Telling Jake White we`re not interested.
    It`s like telling the fans we`re not interested in winning anything, we got the message loud and clear.

  • Comment 86, posted at 13.08.13 11:56:18 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 85) : So did BV :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 87, posted at 13.08.13 11:57:15 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 86) : Speaking about Jake and the Sharks. I found an old Sharks magazine, a very young Jake is on the cover – I havent read the article again but in one of the highlighted sections he says he is willing to sign a 10 year contract with the Sharks. I think it was his first big appointment and he was as happy as the proverbial pig.

  • Comment 88, posted at 13.08.13 12:36:03 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 87) : Ja, nee – you dont get more deadpan than him in that interview.

  • Comment 89, posted at 13.08.13 12:36:51 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 88) : that lasted all of about 3 weeks.

  • Comment 90, posted at 13.08.13 12:38:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 86) : I don’t recall that Jake White was available for the Sharks to approach. He seemed more interested in the Wallaby post, but I understood he is pretty tied up with the Brumbies otherwise.

  • Comment 91, posted at 13.08.13 12:38:51 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Can we still blame Northern Hemisphere refs though? :grin:

  • Comment 92, posted at 13.08.13 12:45:53 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 75) : you know what, I think we safe, he is one of the RC refs :lol:

  • Comment 93, posted at 13.08.13 12:47:50 by pierre_mackie Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 90) : Was he only with the Sharks for 3 weeks. :shock: Always ambitious is Jake.

  • Comment 94, posted at 13.08.13 12:49:30 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 78) : you remember the ref, Lourens vd Merwe :roll:

  • Comment 95, posted at 13.08.13 12:51:25 by pierre_mackie Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 94) : no, after 3 weeks he fell out with somebody (can’t remember who… ) and then started plotting and scheming.

  • Comment 96, posted at 13.08.13 12:51:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • Haha I’m having Such a Laugh at the moment with Frikkie,he is has been a Sharks for “60″ years now?I don’t believe I’m 28 been a sharks supporter for let’s just say when I started watching Rugby,and I think I know more about the Sharks than a guy who claims he has been a Shark supporter for “60″ years now,anyway when I pic my superbru each week I always back the sharks,even if I know they might loose

  • Comment 97, posted at 13.08.13 13:24:20 by Duncan Betteridge Reply

     
  • I have more experience than all of you

  • Comment 98, posted at 13.08.13 13:58:14 by Flippie Reply

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  • @pierre_mackie (Comment 95) : Ja Lourens is special, but we have moved on from blaming refs for our losses. One thing that sticks in my mind from that game is the absolute mauling their scrum gave us – I dont want to see that again.

  • Comment 99, posted at 13.08.13 14:02:24 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Ok then Flippie go back to the Bulls then they need your experience there more than we need it here on Sharksworld

  • Comment 100, posted at 13.08.13 14:05:21 by Duncan Betteridge Reply

     
  • Just like the Bulls prefer not to have Kaplan involved in their games, I prefer not to have Jaftha.

  • Comment 101, posted at 14.08.13 07:27:39 by King Shark Reply
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  • @King Shark (Comment 101) : Im with you on that one, our away game against the Kings planted that seed.

    BTW Has Mark Lawrence stopped blowing all rugby. I thought he would still be involved in the local stuff.

  • Comment 102, posted at 14.08.13 09:11:18 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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