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Griquas swoop for van Dyk


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Other SA Teams, Sharks on 27 Aug 2013 at 09:38
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There’s a certain ironic sense of inevitability for me, in the news that Sharks under 21 tighthead Maks van Dyk is among the list of players said to be moving to Griquas for the 2014 season. This according to a report in Volksblad this morning.

The Sharks, after all, announced the signing of Griquas’ own Bok tighthead, Lourens Adriaanse, as a major coup just last week. With another former Sharks age-group 3, Nic Schonert, understood to be leaving Griquas for the Cheetahs at the end of the season, it became vital for CEO Arni van Rooyen to plug the gap. Van Dyk, a highly promising young player who was a key man in the Junior Springboks’ 2012 IRB JWC triumph, has inevitably become surplus to requirements in Durban, it seems, given the three senior tightheads of Bok quality ahead of him in the pecking order.

I can hear the mutters of discontent from here, of course and I share, to some extent, the sentiment. To me, it is always a tragedy when we lose a youngster from our own ranks; the harsh reality, I guess, is that even in this brave new Smit-Venter era, we simply cannot retain and contract every young player who comes through our ranks. If anything, the bigger problem here is the systematic over-supply of quality young props in the Sharks’ age-group ranks of late, often to the detriment of other positions. Aside from van Dyk who is now moving on, the Sharks still have another Junior Bok 3 in Marne Coetzee (still only 20), along with two contracted under 19s in Bart le Roux and Stefan van Schalkwyk. Next year sees the introduction of yet more props, including SA Schools tighthead Ruan Kramer from Grey Kollege. Lots of players with high hopes – but reality will need to kick in at some point too.

Perhaps a more joined-up approach is needed, with fewer youngsters, better initial identification and more specialist coaching in order to ensure a higher proportion actually come through.

There are those who will insist that the Sharks should have rather backed van Dyk and left Adriaanse where he was. With my hand on my heart, though, I cannot honestly say I agree with that thinking either. Super Rugby is no place to blood a 21-year-old tighthead who has yet to taste senior rugby in any form. That approach might work in other positions, but front rankers tend to mature on a somewhat longer schedule and we forget that at out peril.



16 Comments

  • i watched Beerwinkle kill max on Friday,and where does max fit into the bigger picture next year?so ja let him go and at least play vodacom cup and currie cup for the next year or two and we will get him back a far more mature player,i for one will miss him.I like his hard ass attitude.

  • Comment 1, posted at 27.08.13 10:21:56 by bobby 26 Reply
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  • “here are those who will insist that the Sharks should have rather backed van Dyk and left Adriaanse where he was. With my hand on my heart, though, I cannot honestly say I agree with that thinking either. Super Rugby is no place to blood a 21-year-old tighthead who has yet to taste senior rugby in any form. That approach might work in other positions, but front rankers tend to mature on a somewhat longer schedule and we forget that at out peril.”

    This is ultimately the be all and end all of a good team showing. Competent “Hardebaarde” in the tight 5 that have been through the trench warfare over a number of seasons will always (for me) be first choice over promising 20 and 21 year olds.

  • Comment 2, posted at 27.08.13 10:23:51 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @bobby 26 (Comment 1) : Maks got killed by Beerwinkel, that’s disappointing to hear. How did Dell go again Hencus van Wyk?

  • Comment 3, posted at 27.08.13 11:11:15 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 3) : Allan held his own,i dont rate Allan as a great scrummager but he did well,but max got bent.

  • Comment 4, posted at 27.08.13 11:27:56 by bobby 26 Reply
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  • How many more moons before Frans Steyn and PSdT is fit again?!

    Blikskottel mense, but surely Steyn can’t be THAT injured can he?

  • Comment 5, posted at 27.08.13 11:44:20 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 5) : PSdT is quite close to playing again. Not sure about Fransie.

  • Comment 6, posted at 27.08.13 12:00:15 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @bobby 26 (Comment 4) : I still can’t believe a guy like Maks could get bent by Andrew Beerwinkel of all people

  • Comment 7, posted at 27.08.13 13:06:24 by Ludz Reply

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  • @bobby 26 (Comment 4) : How did Puppy’s game go?

  • Comment 8, posted at 27.08.13 13:12:50 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 7) : Nor could i,if i did not see it with my own eyes i would not believe it to be possible.Beerwinkel is fat and not a muscle on his body,but then i must say Max has not put on much of any thing either.Puppy’s team got squashed,50 -5,he needs to move,can’t make a name for yourself defending for 80min every time you play one of the bigger clubs.

  • Comment 9, posted at 27.08.13 13:28:54 by bobby 26 Reply
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  • @bobby 26 (Comment 9) : Move clubs or province?

  • Comment 10, posted at 27.08.13 13:53:06 by Ludz Reply

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  • @bobby 26 (Comment 9) : Maks always been a pretty good scrummager, guess Beerwinkel a whole lot better than at the JWC where he was in reverse for 80% of his scrums

  • Comment 11, posted at 27.08.13 13:56:18 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 10) : club,he is very happy in KZN,in fact very happy with his current club,loves the coaches,they just need to attract better open players,u20s very strong,on Saturday they had 5 u20 players in their first xv,can’t dominate any team with youth,Robbie Harris played with them.

  • Comment 12, posted at 27.08.13 14:45:27 by bobby 26 Reply
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  • @bobby 26 (Comment 12) : good to hear, well if he’s happy. He should stay there. He’ll enjoy his rugga a lot more

  • Comment 13, posted at 27.08.13 16:16:27 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 2) :

    So exactly where is this place where the “hardebaarde” goes through trench warfare? Then we can send our youngsters there to become “hardebaarde”. Or wait, let’s just NOT contract youngsters. Let’s just wait for the other provinces to take these youngsters, bleed them through the systems, raise them to become a “hardebaard” one day, let them develop, give them the opportunities on higher levels …..and then, THEN we buy them from those provinces!!
    You only become a “hardebaard” through such opportunities. Currently you all think its cool to contract youngsters and sell them again. Sounds more like farming than rugby…..

  • Comment 14, posted at 27.08.13 16:29:00 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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  • I mean, if other provinces can go through the effort of playing young props, why not the Sharks as well?!

  • Comment 15, posted at 27.08.13 16:31:10 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 14) : Of course we need to contract youngsters in the hope that they will show that exceptional talent to take the step up. Im looking at this mostly from a super rugby point of view, the Currie Cup would be a good place where youngsters can gain experience but unless they step up hugely then I see no harm in contracting someone like Adriaanse at the expense of a younger very promising recruit. Our teams have showed us many times, particularly in Super Rugby, that when our scrum is under pressure then the knock on effect is hair raising, conversley, as soon as our front line personnel are there things change drastically for the whole team.

    So where do we find these “hardebaarde”, at places like Griquas, Pumas or where ever they are available and if they happen to be ex Sharks that came through the age groups (where they got good enough coaching and exposure to be snapped up by some other team)then so be it.

  • Comment 16, posted at 28.08.13 08:35:26 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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