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White rumours gather pace


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks on 30 Sep 2013 at 11:29
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Stick a wet finger in the air this morning. The chances are, the wind is blowing Jake White towards a job with the Sharks.

No – that’s not official. As ever, we refer to John Smit’s statement on the matter last week, stating merely that the Sharks would be open to exploring the Jake option, should such a discussion float the former Bok coach’s boat too. There’s no inside info, or anything, to go on here – although other sources claim to have just that. This is based simply on what I’ve picked up and the fact that this much smoke is generally a pretty good indication of a fire somewhere.

Questions were raised, at the start of Brendan Venter’s tenure, about how exactly he would manage a workload that included the Sharks Director of Rugby job in addition to his flourishing Cape Town medical practice and an ongoing consultancy to Saracens in the UK. Smit, in a candid interview with Tank Lanning some weeks back, confirmed that he knew Vetner would never be able to sustain that sort of commitment on a long term basis and while we’ll never know the exact specifics of the agreement between the two men, it’s starting to look more and more as though Venter was brought in to steady the ship in the short term, rather than to necessarily steer her course indefinitely – at least, not in any sort of detailed, hands-on way.

White’s sudden (and auspicious, if also somewhat suspicious) availability might be just the catalyst to accelerate Venter’s inevitable plans to fade into the background when it comes to the Sharks. While I’m a long way from ready to join the chorus proclaiming that this move is a “done deal”, I do see how a move to instate White as the man in charge in time for Super Rugby next year could fit in with both his and Venter’s agendas, while hopefully leaving the Sharks in no worse a position.

It’s not often than a coaching replacement after just 6 months can be described as “win-win”, but that just might end up being the case here.

If it happens…



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  • If it happens… I really hope Jake sees the value in the rotation policy (I’m sorry for harping on about this particular issue but I’m a big fan of the idea).

  • Comment 1, posted at 30.09.13 11:35:19 by vanmartin Reply
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  • I have grown to like Venter a lot in the last two months… Would love to see what he can accomplish during one full Super Rugby season with the Sharks.

    Hopefully these “rumours / smoke” does not break the momentum of the team currently.

  • Comment 2, posted at 30.09.13 11:36:26 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • Rob, it didn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this one out.

  • Comment 3, posted at 30.09.13 11:37:03 by Uli Reply
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  • I for one would be disappointed if we lost Venter, though I can see how it is next to impossible for him to give his full attention to the Sharks.

    Time will tell.

  • Comment 4, posted at 30.09.13 11:37:16 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Interesting indeed..

  • Comment 5, posted at 30.09.13 11:42:23 by RedSharkUtd82 Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 4) : Did we not all say it won work for mr V?

    I would miss him too but he cannot give his full commitment to the sharks that’s something we need.

  • Comment 6, posted at 30.09.13 11:43:14 by Uli Reply
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  • I saw an article this morning by Simon Borchardt that it is a done deal, with Brendan Venter only contracted for the CC and JW taking over for the S15 for 2 years. As I detest the man mightily :mrgreen: :mrgreen: I ignored the article until it is confirmed by the only person I really trust with rugby info these days – Mr.Rob Otto. :cool:

  • Comment 7, posted at 30.09.13 12:06:38 by Caratacus Reply

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  • Rob, i know with the players, you may not negotiate with a player if he is still under contract with another union. Does this principle apply to coaches as well?

    If so, John`s reaction the other day could explain more than what we heard.

    If we tried to sign Jake, he would not be able to go to the brumbies and said that he should be released from his contract to move here. Jake would try and get out of his contract and then after “some time” meet with the sharks (or with any other union for that matter). Sounds more like a Conspiracy Theory… :lol:

  • Comment 8, posted at 30.09.13 12:08:29 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @Caratacus (Comment 7) : If true, 2 years is not a long time.

  • Comment 9, posted at 30.09.13 12:09:33 by VanWilder Reply

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  • I know, his rider to that (SB) was that he (JW) wants to get back into international rugby and end of 2015 after the world cup there should be international coaching jobs going for him to apply for.However it is clear this is all conjecture from Mr.Borchardts side, a man as I said, I heartily dislike.

  • Comment 10, posted at 30.09.13 12:13:51 by Caratacus Reply

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  • @Caratacus (Comment 10) : ah well, in the end we will have a top Director, if it ends up to be Jake, or nothing changes and Brendan stays.

    I would like to have our Director sign for longer than 2 years.

  • Comment 11, posted at 30.09.13 12:21:46 by VanWilder Reply

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  • Jake would walk into a job where the rotation policy has already bore fruit, lets hope he continues to give young players a chance. Brendan Venter has already taken all the risk and the squad has more depth than we’ve seen in years despite injuries.

  • Comment 12, posted at 30.09.13 13:52:50 by soutie Reply

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  • If you’d asked me 6 months ago who I would rather have had replace John Plumtree as Head Coach at the Sharks, I would have picked White ahead of Venter – not an earth shattering revelation, considering his World Cup winners medal and his success with the Brumbies – but now I’m not so sure. I’m thoroughly excited to see what Venter’s policies and strategies could offer the Sharks over two years of Currie Cup & SupeRugby.

    I’ve always known Venter was on a different intellectual level to most rugby players (I don’t mean that as an insult to rugby players, more as a compliment to Venter) and he’s shown a fair whack of passion whenever the cameras have picked him out in the coaches’ box. The man has grown on me and I’d be disappointed to see him go.

    If White does take over as Head Coach/Director of Rugby/, I know we’ll have a good man at the helm – but I’d hope Venter would keep his consultancy gig and White would consider some of the policies (rotation, etc) that have served Venter so well with Saracens.

    Have to spare a thought for MacLeod-Henderson and Everitt though, because I’m fairly certain White would want to bring in his own people – Smal and Jones, anyone?

  • Comment 13, posted at 30.09.13 13:54:48 by MerckZ Reply

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  • Really hope we keep Brendon as a consultant and continue with his systems and approach to the game and management of players. Please don’t let him leave us John. The guy has really impressed me. Hope Jake will continue with what Brendon has started.

  • Comment 14, posted at 30.09.13 14:00:06 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @MerckZ (Comment 13) : @GreatSharksays (Comment 14) : Think we all agree on these comments! Well said ouens!

  • Comment 15, posted at 30.09.13 14:15:58 by R Hayward Reply

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  • @MerckZ (Comment 13) : agree!!! Personally I love what BV has done this far with the Sharks, while I love the thought of White at Sharks I would really rather keep BV in some concrete form! Also I have a little issue with White’s loyalty issues :shock:

  • Comment 16, posted at 30.09.13 14:22:50 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 16) : Dont fret about the loyalty issues, if he comes it will prove his loyalty to Jon Smit…. now if you were a Brumbies supporter then you would know why so many refer to him as Jake the snake. :twisted:

  • Comment 17, posted at 30.09.13 14:35:38 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @MerckZ (Comment 13) : This is the second time in a few days that your comments carry the Culling Song stamp of approval. Keep up the good work! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 18, posted at 30.09.13 14:39:58 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 17) : :lol: Too true, and luckily I am not a Brumbies supporter :) Just hope he remains loyal to JS and if France whant him in 6 months time, I hope his loyalty to the Croissant does not force him to abandon my Sharks!

  • Comment 19, posted at 30.09.13 14:43:44 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • While I’m a long way from ready to join the chorus proclaiming that this move is a “done deal”, I do see how a move to instate White as the man in charge in time for Super Rugby next year could fit in with both his and Venter’s agendas, while hopefully leaving the Sharks in no worse a position.

    I see the direction of the wind pushing you has changed for the better as well if you compare your initial response to the question. :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile:


    Can anyone comment on the Jake white – Sharks story?

    Comment 14, posted at 25.09.13 13:50:08 by Uli

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    @Uli (Comment 14) : I can – it’s complete made up bullshit

    Comment 20, posted at 25.09.13 15:07:33 by robdylan

  • Comment 20, posted at 30.09.13 14:49:21 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 8) : Here is an interesting quote from Jakie. would be interesting to know the constraints they are wanting to place on him.

    “I’ve got a release which is fantastic but I just have to work out all the legalities around that release because I want to coach,” White said.

    “Obviously they are going to make some constraints about the fact that if I leave they must be happy.

    “I just want to make sure there is a win-win situation for everybody. I don’t want to upset anybody. I am happy to move on but I just want to make sure the club is happy.”

  • Comment 21, posted at 30.09.13 14:58:28 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 20) : :twisted: stirrer, soon the journalistic attributes of the Media24 crowd will be praised to high heaven…. :twisted:

  • Comment 22, posted at 30.09.13 14:58:55 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 22) : :razz:

  • Comment 23, posted at 30.09.13 15:09:06 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 20) : hehe, There are some tweets I would like to quote…but would refrain from doing so :P

  • Comment 24, posted at 30.09.13 15:16:04 by Uli Reply
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  • I am actually very worried atm, if JW joins and BV leaves. Then what has JS actually achieved now? The only thing he achieved was to give Plum the boot something he obv had personally towards him.

    secondly in what position does this put the sharks now for super15? We sit with a whole new coaching team again, and jsut for JW to pull another fast one mid year about the english coaching job? I say try and keep BV here for as long as possible. this guy has shown more passion towards the team than anyone of our local coaches sitting in the same box as he is.

  • Comment 25, posted at 30.09.13 15:23:56 by Uli Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 25) : “Then what has JS actually achieved now? The only thing he achieved was to give Plum the boot something he obv had personally towards him.”

    Congratulations! I see you have now succesfully claimed the crack pipe for yourself! :roll:

  • Comment 26, posted at 30.09.13 15:37:22 by Culling Song Reply
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  • So Jake White now says he would love to coach Province?

  • Comment 27, posted at 30.09.13 16:43:19 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Somebody help me out here. But if Venter is never around the surely the actually coaching staff must be doing wonders with the team? The amount of offloads as well as attacking play is something I haven’t seen at the sharks in a long time. My question is does venter have as big of an influence as we think or do the current sharks coaches have enough free space to try new things and it is actually working?

  • Comment 28, posted at 30.09.13 18:31:47 by shaniboi Reply

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  • @shaniboi (Comment 28) : As far as I know Venter committed to being at every practice session and game.

  • Comment 29, posted at 30.09.13 19:33:26 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @shaniboi (Comment 28) : Venter is running every aspect of what’s going on. Not sure where the statement that he’s “never around” comes form – it simply isn’t true.

  • Comment 30, posted at 30.09.13 19:55:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • Maybe a little off topic, but the Doctors I know with flourishing medical practices, spend all their waking hours on it and they don’t sleep much.

    Venter cannot be both the things he is reported to be. He either runs rugby for the Sharks and lends his name to a medical practice in Cape Town for marketing purposes or he is a Doctor and lends his name to the Sharks for marketing purposes.

    Which is it?
    There’s not enough time in a day for being both and be true about it.

  • Comment 31, posted at 30.09.13 23:32:28 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 26) : So calling a spade a spade is wrong? Mmmm

  • Comment 32, posted at 01.10.13 08:38:55 by Uli Reply
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  • @fyndraai (Comment 31) : Venter’s commitment, albeit a short term one, was to attend “every practice session and every game”. With the possible exception of the Griquas game, which I can’t confirm he attended, he’s done what he said he would do.

  • Comment 33, posted at 01.10.13 08:43:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 33) : What happens SR 2014?

  • Comment 34, posted at 01.10.13 08:49:09 by benji Reply
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  • So are there any other okes on a shortlist for headcoach?

  • Comment 35, posted at 01.10.13 08:59:40 by Son Of Mayhem Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 34) : the plan, as I understand it, was for Venter to continue in a similar vein for SR 2014…. however, the fortuitous availability of White might make it unnecessary for him to do that.

    Like I said, this could turn out to be win-win.

  • Comment 36, posted at 01.10.13 09:14:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • So Rob, do I sense a new found love for Jakey?

  • Comment 37, posted at 01.10.13 10:14:48 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 37) : Are you a Paul Simon fan? Do you know the song “Gumboots”?

  • Comment 38, posted at 01.10.13 10:15:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Son Of Mayhem (Comment 35) : Yes, Jake White…but he has also come out and said he wants to coach WP, or any other SA team, but he also really, really wants to coach internationally and sees a coaching job at a provincial union as a stepping stone.

  • Comment 39, posted at 01.10.13 10:22:02 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 38) : Well answered :mrgreen:

  • Comment 40, posted at 01.10.13 10:27:11 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 38) : Yes, and yes…love that township style sax.

    Hmmm maybe it should be diamonds on the soles of my gumboots. I guess you sometimes feel like the boy in the bubble.

    And by the way you can call me Al. seriously.

  • Comment 41, posted at 01.10.13 10:29:06 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 40) : I’m glad you caught it – wonder if Salmo did

  • Comment 42, posted at 01.10.13 10:30:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • at the end of the day, my opinion doesn’t matter. If the Sharks appoint Jake White, I will give him my full support. If he treats the players well, I will grow to like him in time.

  • Comment 43, posted at 01.10.13 10:31:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 42) : I like the part about slamming into a brick wall.

  • Comment 44, posted at 01.10.13 10:34:57 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 42) : I’m pretty sure my dad would have somehow become aware of this oversight and had words with me if I didn’t. I’m privileged enough to have grown up with all the greats.

  • Comment 45, posted at 01.10.13 10:43:47 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 44) : yes…. time to take off the cape and join the real world :)

  • Comment 46, posted at 01.10.13 10:48:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 45) : they just don’t write stuff like that any more

  • Comment 47, posted at 01.10.13 10:55:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • You know when that friend comes to you and expresses the fear that his girlfriend is cheating on him?
    You feel sympathy, but also know that she got involved with him whilst she was still dating another dude?

    That’s what you get with Jake White. A continual uncertainty that he’ll be moving on when something better comes along.

    He has already expressed his desire to coach international rugby again. He said it yesterday.

  • Comment 48, posted at 01.10.13 10:58:45 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 48) : Yep, thus my @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 39) : as a summary of this article http://www.rugbyweek.com/news/article.asp?id=40439.

    I hope Im allowed to do that.

  • Comment 49, posted at 01.10.13 11:09:15 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 43) : Im a Jake fan…I think, but I would prefer him to be coaching the Boks than the Sharks. Does not make sense but that is how I feel. Maybe its got something to do with his previous stint with the union.

  • Comment 50, posted at 01.10.13 11:18:40 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 50) : I think we need to trust in Jake’s professionalism and will to win.

    If SA Rugby Mag has it right, it sounds like Jake has made John aware of his desire to coach internationally again, hence only signing a two-year contract. He can use the next two years to win Super Rugby twice and thus perfectly set out his stall to have his pick of international coaching jobs after the next World Cup.

    :)

  • Comment 51, posted at 01.10.13 11:28:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 47) : You do still find the occassional gems from bands like Manic Street Preachers, Mumford and Sons and a few others but they’re unfortunately just not as consistent as the musicians you’re referring to. I fear the appeal of good songwriting is being lost on our MTV generations. It’s a damn shame but probably a topic best suited to a Culling Song thread.

  • Comment 52, posted at 01.10.13 11:41:58 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 51) : I would honestly prefer a coach at the Sharks that has a long-term view in mind instead of one that may be intent on using a union to prove a personal point. I think Jake is a good coach but I don’t want him running our playing resources into the ground in the span of two seasons in order to win at any cost. Hopefully that won’t be the case though should he join and he’ll continue with sustainable selection policies that require more patience but will yield more consistent results.

  • Comment 53, posted at 01.10.13 11:49:11 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 51) :

    Its your (Natal) funeral mate.

    The minute any of Lancaster, Gatland, Meyer or even Schmidt are fired or resign, White’s CV will be in and it’ll be all over the media.
    And, given Jake’s record, it wont matter if its on the eve of the first game of the season or the night before the Super Rugby final.

    At least you know what you’re getting. Might be a good idea to keep Venter on side, just in case he needs to do a rescue job.

  • Comment 54, posted at 01.10.13 12:58:28 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 54) : you’re shooting the messenger. What will be will be.

  • Comment 55, posted at 01.10.13 13:03:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • Well apparently Jake hasn’t even been formally released from the Brumbies yet as there are conditions to his release that still need ironing out.

    And then in usual fashion Jake has said he’d like to coach WP, interested in Sharks, definitely wants a international job, but would be happy to coach anybody. :roll:

    Edit: OK I’m a bit late to this news :)

  • Comment 56, posted at 01.10.13 13:06:07 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 55) :

    Not at all Robbo. Note my sentence: “Its your (Natal) funeral mate”.

    Anyway, my point is – you lay with dogs, you get fleas. Dont expect sympathy when this all falls apart.
    White believes that the fluke WC win in 2007 deigns that he should be coaching the best team in the world and, should a chance remotely resembling that arise, well he’ll be on the plane before even saying his good-byes.

  • Comment 57, posted at 01.10.13 13:37:02 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 57) : let’s just wait and see what, if anything, gets announced, before assuming either the best or the worst.

  • Comment 58, posted at 01.10.13 13:44:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • White is s bit of risk as he wants to coach an international side. He can drop us any second if something better comes up. If he’s smart though, he’ll only avail himself after the RWC so as to have at least 4 years to build the team that can actually win the tournament.

  • Comment 59, posted at 01.10.13 13:56:59 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 57) : it’s sleep with the dogs you get fleas,you lay a dog you get bitten, :mrgreen:

  • Comment 60, posted at 01.10.13 13:59:01 by bobby 26 Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 52) : There are still tons of bands who consistently churn out high quality songwriting. The biggest issue is that the all-pervasive influence of the internet, and the prevalence of hip-hop and dance culture has widened the gap between those bands’ audience and what your average casual listener wants to hear on the radio. That is all.

  • Comment 61, posted at 01.10.13 14:16:24 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 61) : I was wondering when you’d make an appearance. I’m always on the lookout for good music, so feel free to send a few recommendations my way in either the thread or email me: vanmartin at gmail dot com. I have a Spotify subscription and I’m not afraid to use it.

  • Comment 62, posted at 01.10.13 14:36:49 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 62) : spotify? Does it work in SA?

    Give me a few names of stuff you like so I have some sort of starting point. Don’t want to recommend grindcore if you like country :lol:

  • Comment 63, posted at 01.10.13 14:40:13 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 61) : riddle me this:

    “Bridge over Troubled Water” is to 1970 as “___________________” is to 2012?

  • Comment 64, posted at 01.10.13 14:41:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 64) :

    “Bridge over Troubled Water” is to 1970 as “Sugarman” is to 2012?

    :mrgreen: :lol:

  • Comment 65, posted at 01.10.13 14:49:29 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 65) : umm – looking at year of first release :)

  • Comment 66, posted at 01.10.13 15:09:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 64) : :shock: I dont think there is a proper answer to that.

  • Comment 67, posted at 01.10.13 15:20:24 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Billboards top 10 of 2012.

    1 Gotye feat. Kimbra - Somebody That I Used To Know
    2 Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe
    3 fun. feat. Janelle Monae – We Are Young
    4 Maroon 5 feat. Wiz Khalifa - Payphone
    5 Ellie Goulding – Lights
    6 The Wanted - Glad You Came
    7 Kelly Clarkson - Stronger (What Doesn’t Kill You)
    8 Rihanna feat. Calvin Harris - We Found Love
    9 Nicki Minaj - Starships
    10 One Direction – What Makes You Beautiful

    Yeah right.

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 68) : 1 and 3 are not badly-written songs

  • Comment 69, posted at 01.10.13 15:27:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 69) : Im surprised at how many of those I know.

    I was listening to The Boxer earlier today and I was thinking about the same thing about some song writing in the days gone by.

    ” Asking only workman’s wages
    I come looking for a job
    But I get no offers,
    Just a come-on from the whores on Seventh Avenue
    I do declare, there were times when I was so lonesome
    I took some comfort there “

  • Comment 70, posted at 01.10.13 15:50:00 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 66) :

    It was a first to most people in the world… :grin:

  • Comment 71, posted at 01.10.13 15:55:31 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 63) : There are ways to get it to work. Hit me up on email if you want the necessary pointers, it’s not too technical. Best music service by a country mile.

    You can really recommend pretty much anything to me, my taste varies greatly and is ever expanding. If it has decent lyrics I’m willing to give it a go.

  • Comment 72, posted at 01.10.13 16:05:20 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 64) : OK, I’ll bite. Just a few comments before my recommendations though:
    1) None of these songs will have the same impact as Bridge… for the exact reasons listed in my previous comment
    2) Whether they are as good, better or worse than Bridge is a very subjective matter. I am listing them as examples of well-crafted songs by artists with a consistent record of excellence
    3) I hardly ever listen to lyrics, so if your idea of well-written songs focuses on lyrics, then disregard any- and everything I’ve said. Ever

    So, off the top of my head, here goes:

    Nothing but Time: Cat Power
    Yet Aagin: Grizzly Bear
    Hey Jane: Spiritualised
    Cut The World: Antony & The Johnons
    Michicant: Bon Iver
    My Man: Regina Spektor

    Disclaimer: I *think* these are from 2012. I may be way off base.

  • Comment 73, posted at 01.10.13 16:15:10 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 73) : I’m going to listen all of them… just as soon as this call ends

  • Comment 74, posted at 01.10.13 16:17:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 72) : See my comment above; I don’t pay much attention to lyrics, I’m in love with sound.

    Having said that, I recently hear a really great opening line to a song by Smart Gone Crazy:

    “His was the car on the road that everyone was swerving to avoid
    Because they thought he was driving drunk
    But he was only daydreaming about his new life without his wife…
    …whose body was in the trunk”

  • Comment 75, posted at 01.10.13 16:17:53 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 75) : No worries, the one’s you mentioned are a good start. Seriously, I think you need to give Spotify a go.

  • Comment 76, posted at 01.10.13 16:25:50 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 76) : Only problem is my internet connection at home is terrible; no option available for Telkom ADSL, and only Vodacom has a 3G signal available in the area, and that is more like a 0.3G

  • Comment 77, posted at 01.10.13 16:27:35 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 73) :
    Nothing but Time: Cat Power – just listened to, very nice… what is the album like?

    Next.

  • Comment 78, posted at 01.10.13 16:34:06 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 77) : Yeah, that is going to pose quite a problem.

  • Comment 79, posted at 01.10.13 16:35:55 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 78) : Any Cat Power album from Moon Pix onwards is worth hearing. I’m a little ambivalent towards the first two, Dear Sir and What Will The Neighbours Say (or something like that, my memory isn’t what it something something…)

  • Comment 80, posted at 01.10.13 16:39:08 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 79) : :cry:

  • Comment 81, posted at 01.10.13 16:39:44 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 81) : Antony & The Johnons was not what I was expecting at all. I saw their various album covers before listening to Cut the World. Really good song.

  • Comment 82, posted at 01.10.13 16:45:45 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 82) : I Am a Bird Now is the album to pick up by Antony (imho of course)

  • Comment 83, posted at 01.10.13 16:49:32 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 80) : Thanks

    just did “Hey Jane: Spiritualised”, liked it as well….good video, but violent.

  • Comment 84, posted at 01.10.13 16:58:04 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 83) : Regina Spektor is probably my find of the day. Really like her music! And she has an album titled ‘Soviet Kitsch’ which is pretty much the best name ever. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 85, posted at 01.10.13 17:00:09 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 85) : Are you looking for song or album recommendations, by the way?

  • Comment 86, posted at 01.10.13 17:02:15 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 86) : Preferably album recommendations. Any chance you enjoy Daft Punk?

  • Comment 87, posted at 01.10.13 17:04:03 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 84) : The video makes me think of that Hubert Selby Jr book, Last Exit To Brooklyn, for some reason…

    Best thing about that song is how it makes a 10 minute piece still feel like a 3 minute pop song. Pity about the muddy production though

  • Comment 88, posted at 01.10.13 17:04:23 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 87) : I like Daft Punk, but not enough so that I would ever consider spending money on buying any of their stuff. In that line of music, I prefer Since I Left You by Avalanches (which is about the only thing to come out of Australia ever that I like :mrgreen: )

  • Comment 89, posted at 01.10.13 17:06:02 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Moby?

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 89) : You may enjoy Birds of Tokyo who also hail from that island. Regarding Daft Punk, I loved their Tron soundtrack and I’m looking for something similar (eletronic combined with symphony? :???: ) but have come up empty handed so far. I’ll check out Avalanches. Thanks

  • Comment 91, posted at 01.10.13 17:12:42 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @50shadesofblackandwhite (Comment 90) : Only really like Play

  • Comment 92, posted at 01.10.13 17:13:27 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 91) : I haven’t heard the Tron soundtrack, but Avalanches are not really symphonic in nature. Their album is made up of 800+ samples, and is really fun

  • Comment 93, posted at 01.10.13 17:15:57 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @50shadesofblackandwhite (Comment 90) : Yeah, see my comment above. Moby actually has a few songs that fit the bill.

  • Comment 94, posted at 01.10.13 17:17:05 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 93) : I must have watched Tron 4 or 5 times (I hardly ever watch a movie more than once) before it dawned on me that it’s the soundtrack I’m actually after.

  • Comment 95, posted at 01.10.13 17:20:07 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 91) : E-mailed you a quick, shoot-from-the-hip list of things you might like.

  • Comment 96, posted at 01.10.13 17:21:32 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 95) : I’ll have to go check it out then. I’m a sucker for a well placed song in a movie, like when the Gypsy Kings start playing as Jesus Quintana bowls in The Big Lebowski, or the Gary Jules cover of Mad World in Donnie Darko, etc. etc. ad infinitum.

    Rob may have to consider changing the site name to Culling Song’s Song World if this thread continues much longer…

  • Comment 97, posted at 01.10.13 17:24:15 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 96) : Thanks! I’ll check it out this evening.

    @Culling Song (Comment 97) : Same here. Mad World in Donnie Darko is an apt example.

  • Comment 98, posted at 01.10.13 17:44:15 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 97) :Remember the last song in Fight Club?

  • Comment 99, posted at 01.10.13 19:48:47 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 99) : Does the pope shit in the woods? Of course!

  • Comment 100, posted at 01.10.13 19:53:52 by Culling Song Reply
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