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Sharks win ugly against 16


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Bulls, Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 4 Oct 2013 at 22:11
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The Sharks have overcome a spirited Bulls team – and a rather on-sided refereeing performance – to record an 18–16 win at Loftus, despite being reduced to 14 men for 20 minutes of the contest.

The visitors started brightly, with their scrum and lineout functioning well to help build a dominant platform, from which they launched wave after wave of attack. In fact, such was their dominance in the opening quarter that the Bulls seldom found themselves out of their own half at all in that period; worryingly for the Sharks, though, that on-field pressure wasn’t converted into points on the scoreboard, with Fred Zeilinga’s uncharacteristically wayward boot netting just two penalties from four attempts. Bulls pivot Handre Pollard made full use of his only opportunity to aim at posts during the quarter, though and despite being outplayed on the field, the Bulls found themselves just 3-6 down.

A few forced passes in the red zone, coupled with handling errors and a tendency to get isolated at the breakdown robbed the Sharks of numerous try-scoring opportunities throughout a first half that was memorable only for a strange decision from referee Marius van der Westhuizen to yellow card Jacques Botes for an innocuous breakdown offence deep within Bulls’ territory. The card was wrong for several reasons; it was Botes’ first such transgression and occurred far from the Sharks’ “red zone”. Furthermore, replays showed that Botes did everything within his power to roll away, with the arriving Sharks’ player, Jean Deysel, robbed of a legitimate steal in the process.

Van der Westhuizen’s scrum rulings were equally bizarre; seemingly blind to intentional wheels and persistent scrumming in from Bulls loosehead Marcel van der Merwe, he repeatedly pinged the Sharks for deliberate wheeling of scrums in which they were clearly the dominant pack. Zeilinga and Pollard traded penalties to leave the Sharks 9-6 ahead at the break, but the Bulls showed some poor decision making by eschewing a number of kickable opportunities deep within Sharks territory during the half. With their hooker, Bongi Mbonambi, unable to hit the proverbial barn door, there was no return for them from the line-outs they opted to set up instead.

The second half produced more of the same, as Keegan Daniel’s growing frustration with the referee sent matters into a downward spiral. Jean Deysel was duly carded in turn for a first (and marginal) offence and the Bulls scored the only try of the match during this period – Francois Venter taking advantage of the Sharks’ lack of defenders. With Pollard adding a penalty, the Sharks found themselves 16-12 down with 15 minutes to play, but fought back bravely to earn the two penalties that allowed them to retake the lead. Van der Westhuizen continued his baffling display by refusing to card any Bulls players for exactly the same transgressions that had seen the Sharks so punished – Paul Willemse, in particular, must have used up several of his nine lives on the night.

The Sharks, though, are a team that knows how to win these tight ugly games and while neither tries nor vintage rugby was evident in any way on the night, they left Loftus with log points, which ultimately count for a lot more.

SCORERS

Blue Bulls (16) – Try: Francois Venter. Conversion: Handre Pollard. Penalties: Pollard (3).
Sharks (18) – Penalties: Fred Zeilinga (4), Butch James (2).



50 Comments

  • The ref was even more shocking than Jaftha o_O

  • Comment 1, posted at 04.10.13 22:20:32 by KingRiaan Reply
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  • Ultimately all that matters is that we got the win at Loftus despite poor decision making on our parts and poor refereeing. It was encouraging to see our set pieces improve, both scrums and lineouts. Pity the Sharks weren’t always allowed the benefit of their dominance in this area.

  • Comment 2, posted at 04.10.13 22:30:50 by vanmartin Reply
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  • One more thing, the Sharks have snatched defeat at the jaws of victory too often in the past. To deny the Bulls at Loftus right at the death when they came so close is sweeeeeet!

  • Comment 3, posted at 04.10.13 22:36:36 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Bloody hell, I haven’t shouted at the tv so much in a long time. Ok yes I swore the ref a couple of times too, but in my defense I reckon it was justified – a few times lol :mrgreen:
    A win at loftus against 16 guys and only 14 men for 60 mins is always an achievement!! Our set pieces was much better.

  • Comment 4, posted at 04.10.13 22:51:49 by RedSharkUtd82 Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 3) : it is sweet and will rub salt in the wounds come monday at work going to enjoy every second@RedSharkUtd82 (Comment 4) : same here my wife told me on a couple of times to be quiet but the jagga’s were flowing. screw the ref lines man and tv ref now those kill kenny’s are going to tast so sweet sorry ron had to

  • Comment 5, posted at 04.10.13 23:02:16 by sharks4eve2013 Reply

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  • What you complaining about? At least you won! Last week the ref gave the game to the Sharks and none of you complained

  • Comment 6, posted at 04.10.13 23:11:27 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 6) : I really don’t think you can compare…

  • Comment 7, posted at 04.10.13 23:13:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 7) : Why? you still won, the Lions lost because of it.

    TBH, I just watched the footnotes tonight at the pub so can’t comment on specifics

  • Comment 8, posted at 04.10.13 23:21:05 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 8) : how many players did you have carded last week for doing NOTHING WRONG?

  • Comment 9, posted at 04.10.13 23:22:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • @sharks4eve2013 (Comment 5) : Nice enjoy the Kill Kenny’s ;-)

  • Comment 10, posted at 04.10.13 23:22:31 by RedSharkUtd82 Reply

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  • Look, I don’t like this ref. He’s the same guy who refused to penalise the Cheetahs for ANYTHING. I’m not saying he was good but the one week the ref blows in your favour, the other week another ref doesn’t, that’s part of the game. Accept it

  • Comment 11, posted at 04.10.13 23:25:53 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 11) : sorry – not meaning to take off at you. I’m just frustrated. As you say, it’s good that we managed to win despite this fucknut. But it does REALLY annoy me that a guy can draw a salary after being quite that bad at his job.

  • Comment 12, posted at 04.10.13 23:33:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 12) : K

  • Comment 13, posted at 04.10.13 23:36:15 by Baylion Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 12) : Yeah it’s a pity that the refs don’t get reviewed after each game and then fined a % of their salary/fee for that particular game.

  • Comment 14, posted at 04.10.13 23:37:58 by RedSharkUtd82 Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 13) : help me out here…. what exactly are you guys so pissed about after last week?

  • Comment 15, posted at 04.10.13 23:39:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • Rob, for the last three matches at least the Lions dominated the scrums – the Cheetahs scrummed in, stood up, disengaged, even Os mentioned it at half time – the Sharks scrum crumbled like tin foil, but none of the opponents were ever penalised, we got penalised. We should have had penalties in our favour from the first scrum last week.

    BTW, is there a worse #3 in SA than Herbst?

  • Comment 16, posted at 04.10.13 23:44:40 by Baylion Reply

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  • Just to get some perspective, we caused our own downfall by not marking MCLeod at that penalty and not covering close to the maul when Reinach ran through, those tries were our own slackness.

  • Comment 17, posted at 04.10.13 23:47:09 by Baylion Reply

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  • I’m gonna be a pain: Please correct score where points scorers are mentioned above :mrgreen:
    Highlights being shown now on SS1.

  • Comment 18, posted at 04.10.13 23:48:22 by RedSharkUtd82 Reply

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  • Just watched the H/L now and it just confirms it again: Jean Deysel is n YSTER!!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 19, posted at 05.10.13 00:18:51 by RedSharkUtd82 Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 16) : ok, so tonight I saw Marcell van der Merwe going around Herbst and boring in…. on EVERY scrum. A few he started out straight, but when Herbst POESED him back, he quickly changed his angle.

    The combination combination of a cheating 1 and a fucking clueless ref will make a 3 look bad every time.

  • Comment 20, posted at 05.10.13 00:31:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Baylion (Comment 8) :
    A guy complaining about the ref after his team loses versus another complaining about a ref despite his team winning. I know who I would find more credible.

    FYI: the Lions come mighty close, but haven’t quite yet gained the monopoly on bitching about the ref.

  • Comment 21, posted at 05.10.13 00:37:42 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 21) : well, yeah…. at the end of the day, one teams claims to have lost BECAUSE of the ref. The other wins DESPITE the ref. I think that speaks volumes.

  • Comment 22, posted at 05.10.13 00:39:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • @baylion … just because your scrum is dominant doesnt guarantee you a penalty. In fact cj was scrumming early most of the game last week.

  • Comment 23, posted at 05.10.13 06:16:10 by byron Reply

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  • The amount of times the Bulls No.1 dropped his bind and put his hand down on the ground was countless. Yet no penalties given? Seems forward passes are now a given and I wont even mention the boring in from the Bulls. Was at TPATR and at one stage the TV was in danger of being severely damaged.

  • Comment 24, posted at 05.10.13 06:57:40 by Caratacus Reply

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  • I apologise for my comment last night. In the cold light of morning I realise that it was uncalled for, you don’t look for sh!t in another man’s house.

  • Comment 25, posted at 05.10.13 07:09:10 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 25) :
    You are a funny guy. Good delivery on that little barb. Well done.

  • Comment 26, posted at 05.10.13 08:10:47 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Sorry guys a bit off the topic but who saw the last try of the bulls sharks under 21. Please can someone tell me how the TMO awarded that when there was clearly that wasn’t a try?.? It didn’t cost the sharks at the end but a decision like that could of changed the whole game for another team on another day. :| are refs seeing what we aren’t as supporters or what..

  • Comment 27, posted at 05.10.13 08:11:14 by shaniboi Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 16) : Herbst on form is probably the second best 3 in the country after Dr. du Plessis.

  • Comment 28, posted at 05.10.13 09:49:44 by David12246 Reply

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  • RedShark mentioned this during the game but seriously… how ridiculously biased was that commentating? They were practically begging the Bulls to win. They didn’t even try hide the fact that they were rooting for the Bulls.
    Denying those clowns (Thanks again RedShark for the perfect name to describe them) a Bulls win was almost as satisfying as the Sharks winning.

  • Comment 29, posted at 05.10.13 10:16:39 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @Baylion (Comment 25) : no problem boss. A bit of banter – all good.

  • Comment 30, posted at 05.10.13 10:35:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • @shaniboi (Comment 27) : i saw the highlights just now, that ball was clearly not under control, ball fell out of his hand,

  • Comment 31, posted at 05.10.13 10:40:39 by pierre_mackie Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 29) : What kind of nut is Skinstad, going on and raving about the great 8 man bulls scrum that just manhandled the 7 man Sharks scrum.

  • Comment 32, posted at 05.10.13 10:45:52 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply

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  • Rob, sorry I disagree with you regarding the ref being the Bulls 16th man. He was poor, yes but not biased to the Bulls.

  • Comment 33, posted at 05.10.13 10:48:02 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 33) : I read a bunch of comments from Bulls and WP supporters on Twitter last night and even they thought the ref was giving us a raw deal. Even Tank Lanning, a die-hard blue & white hoops man who would have preferred to have seen the Bulls knock us off top spot for WP said we were shafted.

    He must have been truly abysmal for them to side with us.

  • Comment 34, posted at 05.10.13 10:56:13 by MerckZ Reply

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  • Poor yes, biased to the Bulls, no.

  • Comment 35, posted at 05.10.13 11:07:25 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply

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  • @gregkaos (Comment 29) : I didn’t get to see the game last night, but that always irks me about the SS commentators – especially Matt Pierce and, more recently, Xola Ntshinga. They make no effort to conceal their WP favouritism. I know it’s not a big deal and I should grow up about it, but we don’t pay +-R600 a month to hear sycophantic drivel about our rivals and negativity about our own team.

    I really don’t understand Skinstad though, you would have thought, considering we gave him the opportunity to win a World Cup medal and the fact that he was schooled here, he’d be a little more positive about us. Same with Stransky – and he claims to be a Sharks supporter on Superbru!

    The only guy who likes us, now that Darren Scott is persona non grata, is Derek Alberts and he never gets a gig. The Bulls/WP love-in is nauseating.

  • Comment 36, posted at 05.10.13 11:17:32 by MerckZ Reply

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  • The Bulls used to be masters at winning close games like this.

    That makes it just that little bet sweeter . . :mrgreen:

    Time for another celebratory lager me thinks! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 37, posted at 05.10.13 11:44:45 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • On a more negative note, something seems to be wrong with my phone, haven`t received any congratulatory calls :shock: :evil:

  • Comment 38, posted at 05.10.13 11:45:53 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • Pierce is getting better, a while ago you could hear the tears welling up in his eyes and his throat constricting when The Stormers were losing, now its not as obvious…well other than his slanted comments.

  • Comment 39, posted at 05.10.13 12:07:12 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 39) : Let’s hope the Lions give him a reason to tear up today.

  • Comment 40, posted at 05.10.13 12:18:34 by MerckZ Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 33) : really? Look, I want to believe the best, but his two cards were both absolutely pathetic.

    I can concede that he got the scrums wrong through incompetence, but the cardings were blatant.

  • Comment 41, posted at 05.10.13 12:57:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • The ref was was one eyed finis and klaar. When the Bulls scored he awarded it before ball was grounded and then proceeded to dance on the spot. This was observed by my mate (a die hard Bull supporter).

    And on the commentator issue Bob did mention, after Keegan questioned why a yellow card was issued and yet Willemse did exactky the same, the the ref just turned his back on Keegan knowing he, the eef, was wrong. Of course Mathew Pearce dis agreed with Bob.

    One could see the ref was blatantky biased which is quite sickening.

  • Comment 42, posted at 05.10.13 13:43:24 by Bayshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 41) : In my view if he wanted the Bulls to win, then they would have. Regarding the yellow cards, he obviously saw something there (probably imaginary) but prior to both cards he had put the Sharks on a warning and given Keegan time to let the team know that they were on thin ice.

    Why I really dont believe his intention was to favour the Bulls is because if that was the case then he would not have given the Sharks the 2 penalties in the closing stages of the game that ultimately let them win the game and especially that last one – he could just as well have judged that Willemse had won the ball legally. He also let the Sharks get away with a very skew defensive line out throw deep in their own 22 when possession should have actually gone to the Bulls – prime position.

    I think he was just very poor but did not intentionally favour one team over the other.

  • Comment 43, posted at 05.10.13 13:45:04 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 43) : I think the phrase is “cock-up before conspiracy”.

  • Comment 44, posted at 05.10.13 13:53:26 by MerckZ Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 33) : I’d actually say he favoured us in the 1st few minutes.

    Inept? Yes.
    Biased? No.

  • Comment 45, posted at 05.10.13 20:09:07 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @MerckZ (Comment 34) : Yes we were shafted by the ref, but because he was useless, not because he was biased.

  • Comment 46, posted at 05.10.13 20:10:30 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Bayshark (Comment 42) : I did laugh at his “celebration” when they scored the only try in the game.

    it was probably just because he finally got to award a try rather than a penalty. :)

  • Comment 47, posted at 05.10.13 20:13:19 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 43) : Agreed again.

    That going off his feet final penalty that James slotted could just as easily have been ignored by the ref had he wanted us to lose.

  • Comment 48, posted at 05.10.13 20:15:27 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Refs should def have to face the music when they mess up. Poor refs spoil games for everyone!This baby-faced one should get the boot for sure!What a wanker!

  • Comment 49, posted at 05.10.13 23:02:52 by denese.newby@gmail.com Reply

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  • Guys the ref wasn’t that bad, most of the 50/50 calls gone to the bulls that is it, in fact we were lucky at the scrum hitting at an angle most of the times ( what does this boring-in you guys talk about mean).

    I have to commend the guys for their guts and character and it made my night when they went over to the east stand to thank the supporters there and made their way back to the main stand to do the same.

    @shaniboi (Comment 27) : Remember you no longer have to have control of the ball as long as you keep touching the ball until you you dot down the ball, not meaning having downward pressure, it is a try so nothing wrong there.

    @robdylan (Comment 41) : Nothing wrong with either of the two cards.

    @denese.newby@gmail.com (Comment 49) : They do, we just don’t hear it because it doesn’t make the paper and sarra is very discreet about it.

  • Comment 50, posted at 05.10.13 23:37:17 by BR Reply

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