Letgo

Will Goosen break again?


Written by Maria Delport (Letgo)

Posted in :Cheetahs, Currie Cup, Original Content on 11 Oct 2013 at 15:29
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Johan Goosen will be making his long-awaited return to the rugby field off the Cheetahs bench this weekend. The highly anticipated return of the young Bok flyhalf was stunted late last month when his appendix had to be removed and at the time it was reported that he would not be able to return until the 2014 season. Cheetahs coach Naka Drotske has however decided to give Goosen 20 minutes of the bench in their clash against the Bulls this weekend.

Goosen has been touted as the next big thing since his appearance on the senior rugby scene during the 2011 Curie Cup season. He performed well during the 2012 Super Rugby before picking up a shoulder injury in April that would see him miss the rest of the Cheetahs Super Rugby campaign. He made his debut for South Africa (after playing only one Curie Cup match), replacing Morne Steyn in the 60th minute against Australia and went on to start the next two Rugby Championship matches for the Boks, only to pick up another injury that would keep him out of the Bok end of year tour squad. He came back for the Cheetahs during the 2013 Super Rugby, but early in the competition during March, he unfortunately suffered another season ending injury – this time his knee,

Fears are that Naka Drotske is risking the talented young flyhalf by bringing him back this early, but Drotske assures that both the Cheetahs fitness coach (Niel du Plessis) and knee specialist (Dr. Daan du Plessis) cleared him to play. With injuries plaguing the player one however wonders if rushing him for a start is the best thing to do.

In the recent Rugby Championship Heyneke Meyer mainly used Morne Steyn as his fly-half with Pat Lambie the only cover for this position. Lambie has rarely made an appearance at fly-half and was mostly (but sparsely) used taking over at fullback. With Goosen possibly available for selection one would assume that he would be included as a third fly half in the end of year squad, whether he is elevated over Lambie to the bench or possibly even a start, remains to be seen.



30 Comments

  • Short answer, yes.

  • Comment 1, posted at 11.10.13 15:35:16 by PTAShark Reply
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  • Hopefully he’s been doing the right kind of strength and conditioning training to get him match ready… One would assume the fitness coaches know what they’re doing…

  • Comment 2, posted at 11.10.13 15:38:46 by The Quirk Reply
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  • Cheetahs have ruined this oke for ever,Naka you d….,give the boy a chance to get some hair on his goodies.

  • Comment 3, posted at 11.10.13 16:18:25 by bobby 26 Reply
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  • this kid and that Pollard oke have one huge thing in common…

    They are both massively, massively overrated.

  • Comment 4, posted at 11.10.13 16:21:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • @PTAShark (Comment 1) : only if he does not get injured before then.

  • Comment 5, posted at 11.10.13 16:42:28 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : Agree about Pollard but the Goose is pure class just made of soft glass and hopefully he doesnt slip on the grass

  • Comment 6, posted at 11.10.13 16:55:53 by benji Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) :
    Nobody is hoping that Goosen and Pollard come through more than Meyer. Clearly he doesnt really rate Lambie.

  • Comment 7, posted at 11.10.13 17:18:33 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 7) :

    If you look at Lambie’s performances over the last year, do you honestly think he should?

    He has by no means been poor, but he has hardly set the world alight either.

  • Comment 8, posted at 11.10.13 17:34:30 by 13 Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 7) : Can be argued that the Sharks coaches don’t really rate Lambie either. If they did he would be starting against WP.
    Not buying this “he doesn’t know the calls” story.

  • Comment 9, posted at 11.10.13 18:09:31 by jonnow Reply

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  • @jonnow (Comment 9) : Well they’ve said he is definitely starting for the semi final game.

  • Comment 10, posted at 11.10.13 18:19:50 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @jonnow (Comment 9) : they’ve said he’ll start next weekend. Pretty weird to do that ahead of such a big game if they don’t rate him…

  • Comment 11, posted at 11.10.13 18:20:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) : Did you seriously delete my Microsoft jibe?

  • Comment 12, posted at 11.10.13 18:24:29 by klempie Reply

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  • @13 (Comment 8) : And Morne Steyn has? :lol: If Lambie had half the chances Steyn had ,he would be twice the Flyhalf due to pure exposure.

    Goosen is brittle and frankly a poor defender, he will be found out sooner rather than later.

  • Comment 13, posted at 11.10.13 18:29:48 by Talent Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 12) : yes. I don’t use what I know about your private life to insult your boss, so afford me the same courtesy.

  • Comment 14, posted at 11.10.13 18:33:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @13 (Comment 8) :
    Like the man said:
    @Talent (Comment 13) :

  • Comment 15, posted at 11.10.13 18:41:52 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 13) :

    Honestly, I’m not a Steyn fan, but I will acknowledge that he has had a few good performances this year. He is currently the best we’ve got, which shows just how thin we are at flyhalf in this country.

    Unlike some of the commenters on this site, I am not routing for guys like Goosen and Pollard to fail simply because they don’t play for the team I support. I hope they both go on to become great flyhalves because it will be good for the Springboks.

    Everyone, especially on this site, always goes on about how amazing Lambie is, and to be honest with you I just don’t see it. His performances over the past few years indicate to me that he is no more than a solid flyhalf. He makes very few mistakes, but he’s not going to win a game with a moment of brilliance either.

    People seem to rate Lambie solely on his great performance in the Currie Cup final three years ago, whereas any good performances from Steyn are very quickly forgotten.

  • Comment 16, posted at 11.10.13 19:09:58 by 13 Reply

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  • @13 (Comment 16) : I agree with what you say about Goosen and Pollard .From an national point of view you want that competition to thrive and push players to be consistent and push the boundaries, the question is ,are they the next generation of young Springbok Flyhalves?

    I can’t agree with you about Steyn though. He just isn’t our best, not by any stretch of the imagination. “He just isn’t”-said in a Jeremy Clarkson voice :lol:

    Your last paragraph is so untrue it frightens me :lol: ! :???: Its the other way around .Lambie ,the supposed incumbent ,was dropped after one game. Steyn continues to butcher Springbok back line play, miss tackles ,kicks at goal and out of hand yet is completely exempt from any judgement, explain? Worse,people worship him as a tactical kicker; he goes to the boot far to quickly and puts kak loads of pressure on our defensive systems with poor kicks.

  • Comment 17, posted at 11.10.13 21:40:43 by Talent Reply
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  • There was a time when Steyn knew how to nail home an advantage ,the 2009 season was vintage Blue Bulls Rugby merged with total Rugby; simplistic but brutally effective.
    He did what he knew how to do and he did it well. It complimented the long range drop goals of Francois Steyn, the breakdown work of Brussow ,the pressure game our forwards played and Matfields mastery in the lineouts. Things have changed though,the game has changed ,laws have changed and most of all players have changed-there isn’t anyone to hold Morne’s hand anymore.

  • Comment 18, posted at 11.10.13 21:59:16 by Talent Reply
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  • Pollard is in the same class as Steyn. Hugely overrated

  • Comment 19, posted at 12.10.13 08:46:19 by Mutley Reply
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  • I do agree that Lambie has been slightly hard done by, but I think Super Rugby form was used as the reason for Steyn being preferred over him. Meyer, like all coaches, has his favourites and unfortunately Steyn is one of those. Lambie hasn’t had much opportunity to prove himself, which is unfortunate.

    In my opinion, which I do admit could be wrong, Steyn, behind a dominant pack, is the best we have at the moment. Lambie has never been able to replicate his 2010 form, which is a pity, because if he could he would be a very good flyhalf, probably the best in the country.

    I disagree about Steyn not receiving any criticism. Sure, most Bulls supporters, gloss over his mistakes, but the rest of the country’s rugby supporters often criticise him. If you watch the post match analysis of most of the Springbok games, as well as many of the blogs, opinion pieces and comments around the internet, you will see what I’m talking about.

    I’m not sure about Goosen or Pollard just yet, but one thing that can’t be denied is that both do have obvious potential. Whether they can live up to that potential remains to be seen.

  • Comment 20, posted at 12.10.13 09:16:15 by 13 Reply

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  • @13 (Comment 16) : 2 crucial mistakes in that post.
    1. You rated someone ahead of Lambie.

    2. You gave Morne Steyn credit.

    You do not, I repeat you do not do such on Sharksworld, never ever. I know from my own experiences.

  • Comment 21, posted at 12.10.13 10:12:11 by Ludz Reply

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  • Goosen must be injury free for more than 5-6 games at a time to be rated as a Bok 10. The youngster has yet to play a full season. It seems as if his body can’t take the knocks and maybe he should be given more time to adjust to playing with the big boys.

  • Comment 22, posted at 12.10.13 10:56:34 by JD Reply
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  • @13 (Comment 16) : Hey, don’t upset us by stating facts here….lol..on a serious note, Lambie was never going to shine in the old Plum environment merely because there was no structure and game plan so the guy never really knew whether he was coming or going. Best thing that could have happened to Lambie was to be released from the Bok at the beginning of the CC, he would have grown as a flyhalf by now, just look at Fred. Our game plan revolves around the flyhalf running the show so yes I believe the coaching staff when they say that Lambie needs another week to master the calls. This is not about doubting Lambie’s talent.

  • Comment 23, posted at 12.10.13 11:11:03 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 21) : The problem is you don’t really listen :lol:

    What we say; “Lambie hasnt really had the opportunities he deserves.”

    What you hear; “Lambie is the best player in the world ,nothing else matters”

    Kind of similar with you and your mate Allan ;-)

    If you give Morne Steyn credit ,you deserve to be tied to a log and dropped off in middle of the Ocean ,far from shipping lanes, so there is no hope you are ever picked up :lol: just kidding .Maybe there is some substance to your second point.

  • Comment 24, posted at 12.10.13 14:05:50 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 24) : :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 25, posted at 12.10.13 15:36:16 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Talent (Comment 24) : And Lambie is so good at 10 hahaha what kak ,he got rubbished by the Cat again

  • Comment 26, posted at 12.10.13 21:30:15 by benji Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 26) : Go back to whatever little hole you climbed out of, or has Saffex’s assh*le closed up?

    Maybe in your dimwitted mind he did. All I saw was Lambie kick out of hand better than anyone else on the field. Not bad for a guy who’s played hardly any Rugby at 10 recently.

  • Comment 27, posted at 12.10.13 21:46:05 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 27) : Wonderfull,brilliant out of hand stuff,the point being what? Tactically what? Tha Cat still has Pat weighed,measured and found wanting,in fact Pat is not a 10 at all.

  • Comment 28, posted at 12.10.13 23:04:56 by benji Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 28) : I don’t know why I bother with people like you. As Matt Dunning proved ,anyone can sit back and kick at poles :lol:

    Lambies kicking out of hand could not have been more precise tonight. I don’t know how else you would like me to phrase that so it could make sense?

    Anyway moron, I have a youtube video I want you to see, it reminded me of you and Saffex’s little love affair ;-)

  • Comment 29, posted at 13.10.13 00:43:02 by Talent Reply
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  • A couple things… Morne Steyn has been the form flyhalf in SA this year so deserves his starting spot. However, Hyneke Meyer’s refusing to give his 2nd string flyhalf gametime will come back to hurt him. Goosen is still a youngster and he is not that well built. Yes some argue that Lambie is small- no he is short, he is def very well built! Much more so than Goosen which is why Lambie was able to successfully play from a young age without injury. Goosen is a good player but im still not convinced he has Bok credentials yet. Let him last 1 full season of Super rugby first.

  • Comment 30, posted at 14.10.13 07:55:19 by SheldonK Reply

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