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Bismarck (back) in the dock


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 21 Oct 2013 at 06:41
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Sharks hooker Bismarck du Plessis has been cited for trampling on an opponent during Saturday’s Currie Cup semi-final, throwing his participation in this weekend’s final into doubt.

The player was yellow-carded for the offence in the 65th minute of the match.

No time and date for the hearing has yet been set.



44 Comments

  • I don’t see him getting away from this one tbh….

  • Comment 1, posted at 21.10.13 06:50:17 by Uli Reply
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  • Yet another brain fart :(

  • Comment 2, posted at 21.10.13 07:23:33 by capesharks Reply

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  • STUPID! :roll: :x

  • Comment 3, posted at 21.10.13 07:38:48 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Bismarck…. Why ????? We will need every little bit to do this on Saturday.

    Just a question.. I think my tv’s aspect ratio might be a bit scew, because I couldn’t really see the trampling incident in question? I saw the swipe he took, or wanted to took with a plat hand, but couldn’t see anything else.
    How bad is it actually?

  • Comment 4, posted at 21.10.13 07:53:06 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • It was a shocker tbh. He stepped on a players chest.

  • Comment 5, posted at 21.10.13 08:11:27 by DBOY Reply

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  • ai jislaaik! like we need this kak as [email protected]SharksRTB (Comment 4) : I had the same issue, could not see what happened after the mik for a p… klap!

  • Comment 6, posted at 21.10.13 08:11:59 by R Hayward Reply

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  • i thought the Duane Vermeulens arm in the lion players throat would be a cited.

  • Comment 7, posted at 21.10.13 08:12:24 by pete69 Reply

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  • @DBOY (Comment 5) : could have been just off balance….heh?

  • Comment 8, posted at 21.10.13 08:13:54 by R Hayward Reply

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  • couldn’t see it either
    clearly nothing will happen about scarra and duane’s offences?
    I get SOOOOO frustrated :evil: :evil: :evil:

  • Comment 9, posted at 21.10.13 08:14:16 by capesharks Reply

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  • Ag jeez, I can’t believe he went and did that. How on earth does any player expect to get away with crap like that. He is a brilliant player but his short fuse and dirty tactics are starting to cost the team (whether it be the Boks or Sharks) He will be like Bakkies, where every incident he is involved in will result in a card or citing due to his history.

  • Comment 10, posted at 21.10.13 08:17:47 by Farlington Reply

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  • From where I was sitting, it looked like the Cheetahs player was holding on to Bissie’s leg as he tried to get up. But the tv probably showed more of what happened.

  • Comment 11, posted at 21.10.13 08:20:19 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @R Hayward (Comment 8) : LOL I doubt that, but maybe he can convince the citing commission.

  • Comment 12, posted at 21.10.13 08:20:50 by Farlington Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 11) : I could not really make out from the TV replay what was going on there. Cheetah was holding onto Bismarck’s leg preventing him from getting back to play.

    Anybody has a youtube link that shows the incident?

  • Comment 13, posted at 21.10.13 08:33:26 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • I think Bismarck’s citing will probably result in a 1 game ban. Its wasnt that bad but it was intentional which could land him in trouble. Opposition teams will pick up on this and now provoke him every game as they know he is a walking yellow card.

  • Comment 14, posted at 21.10.13 08:33:58 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 13) : It happened almost right in front of me. To me it looked like the Cheater player held on to Bissie. Cheetahs really seemed to play more and more dirty as the game went on, and from what I could see, that ginger no8 seemed to be the main culprit

  • Comment 15, posted at 21.10.13 08:54:50 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 14) : Exactly…it is the best way to neutralise him. And like I said, the opposition is not the only ones taking note, the officials will also have a look and start dishing out yellows/red cards without mercy. He is getting that “dirty player” stigma. Man I get so frustrated, I really rate the guy and love the intensity he brings but seems it comes at a price.

  • Comment 16, posted at 21.10.13 08:57:23 by Farlington Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 15) : Could you see what led to the scuffle? It looked like it happen off the ball. What made Bissie snap.

  • Comment 17, posted at 21.10.13 08:58:44 by Farlington Reply

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  • This is going to sound like sour grapes but the ref has to share in a little of the blame in this.

    It was incredibly stupid of Bismarck to step on the Cheetahs player’s chest and it had to be an insane rush of blood to the head on his behalf. In my opinion he deserved to be carded and to be honest, was maybe lucky to have only got a yellow card.

    My problem with the referee came to his laissez faire attitude toward the aggression around the rucks and the scrums. Cheetahs were flying into rucks and generally trying to hurt Sharks players later in the game rather than play in the game and rather than take control of the situation he let them have at it. The clear out and subsequent kerfuffle which led to Bismarck stamping on Lappies was reminiscent of the clear out from Bakkies which gave him a ban.

    If that’s a ban post game it should be a penalty and stern talking to, at the very least, on the field of play. In fact, I remember a few such clear outs earlier in the game which were ignored.

  • Comment 18, posted at 21.10.13 09:01:34 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @Farlington (Comment 17) : I think it was more a case of Bissie eventually getting gatvol because of the Cheetahs constant negativity which made him clear the guy out hard, and that made the Cheater probably whisper sweet words into Bissie’s ear

  • Comment 19, posted at 21.10.13 09:04:19 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 18) : “This is going to sound like sour grapes but the ref has to share in a little of the blame in this”

    Like that will ever happen. But yes, if the game was better controlled perhaps this would not have happened. But take the game earlier in the day for example. Who thinks that Duane should have been carded for pushing down on the Lions player’s throat? This was looked at by the officials and nothing was done about it.

  • Comment 20, posted at 21.10.13 09:07:55 by Farlington Reply

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  • @Farlington (Comment 20) : It’s one of the most frustrating things wrong with rugby at the moment. The refs go out with favourites and different rule books for the two teams and you have to find out which one you’re playing.

  • Comment 21, posted at 21.10.13 09:11:21 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 19) : Sadly by taking the law into his own hands will possibly cost him and the Sharks.

    On a different note, what is the general feel of the fans down in Durban? Why was the stadium so empty for a Semi-final. Did the weather play such a big role?

  • Comment 22, posted at 21.10.13 09:13:13 by Farlington Reply

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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 21) : You’re right. And as you mentioned, Bissie did deserve to be carded for trampling, but I can’t help but feel that if it was him pushing down on a player’s throat he would have been carded. As mentioned, players get that stigma attached to them and the officials will not hesitate to card those players.

  • Comment 23, posted at 21.10.13 09:17:24 by Farlington Reply

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  • @Farlington (Comment 22) : Its sad to see the empty stands, there was a real drive to get people down, but the weather put alot of people off.

    I was there and was very entertaining; Disappointed that the final is not there (obviously) but i ask myself, does durban deserve a final with their poor attendance record this season.

    Anyway, i bought my plane tickets to capetown, now just need to get hold of final tickets

  • Comment 24, posted at 21.10.13 09:39:48 by Jeremiser Reply
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  • @Jeremiser (Comment 24) : Good for you. I’m jealous and wish I could be at the final.

    Yeah the Durban crowd really needs to up the game. There are a lot of Sharks supporters here in Johannesburg that wish they could attend the games. In fact it seems that there are more Shark supporters in the Ellis Park and Loftus Stands then in Kings Park. WTF, that is just wrong.

  • Comment 25, posted at 21.10.13 09:53:27 by Farlington Reply

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  • @Farlington (Comment 25) : wonderful enthusiasm,but don’t blame the supporters,there are a few good reasons for this decline starting in 2007/2008 ,and the attendance is a direct reflection of supporters attitude to this,and its nothing to do with financial crises

  • Comment 26, posted at 21.10.13 10:11:55 by benji Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 18) : Well put. As I mentioned a couple of time before, I reckon this ref is still to easily intimidated by crowds and players. The occasion was just a little too big for him.

  • Comment 27, posted at 21.10.13 10:19:11 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 26) : We have friends who refuse to watch rugby with us simply due to the fact that I ‘become a different person’ when watching the rugby and if I lived down in Natal I probably would have season tickets to the tank.

    But on Saturday I could barely be bothered to switch on the TV to watch the match. The problem can be put down to the fact that:

    1. By the time we play WP in the final on Saturday it will be the 5th time we have played them this year, if you include their Super 15 alter ego, the Stormers.

    2. The Currie Cup as a result of the pathetic expansion of Super Rugby has been severely watered down and while the Springboks are back, we’ve had rugby that has been played almost every weekend since the middle of February.

    3. Poor game management and application of the rules by the referees which almost always leaves far too much power in which way the game will go in the hands of the officials. Let’s not forget that Saturday’s official was the same knob that decided only one arm would work at Loftus. No one wants to pay money to go and see a skew contest because one poepol in the middle has delusions of grandeur.

  • Comment 28, posted at 21.10.13 10:27:54 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @Jeremiser (Comment 24) : Tickets for the final go on sale tomorrow at 10.00. Book online at Ticketpros or from a Postnet branch.

  • Comment 29, posted at 21.10.13 10:38:20 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 28) : Sure there’s way too much rugby being played, but the team has to play all those games and work hard during the season to get to a semi-final only for no one to show up to support them. It’s pathetic. First time I was really embarrassed as a Sharks supporter. Happy that I was one of the few that came, but embarrassed to now fall under the group that can’t even half fill a stadium for a semi-final.

    Plus most of the people that showed up for the semi final are the people who showed up for basically every game – the ones that stayed home are the ones that’s been staying home all season. You have no reason not to come to a play-off game if you’re in the area and want to call yourself a Shark supporter. It’s the first one this year. So that would have been one game where you would have had to get of your ass and support your team. (When I say your ass, I don’t mean you specifically).

    It’s pretty pathetic really!

  • Comment 30, posted at 21.10.13 10:48:51 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 30) : The team must be quite chuffed playing the final down in Cape Town. At least someone will be watching them – only problem it is going to be mostly rabid WP supporters

  • Comment 31, posted at 21.10.13 10:54:33 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 30) : Really can’t argue with you there.

    I live up in Gauteng so it’s always difficult to make it to the Tank for a game. I always make it a point to go to the game if I’m down in Natal, if I can. I was down in Durban last weekend for Amashova and would have loved to go but we were staying in PMB for the start and by the time I would have got back I would have only had like 4 hours sleep before the race. Still killed me not to be able to go.

  • Comment 32, posted at 21.10.13 10:55:17 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • He did not stand on the guts chest. At no stage did his boot make contact with the Cheetah player. Even the commentators remarked that it was a rediculous decision.

  • Comment 33, posted at 21.10.13 12:14:11 by Bayshark Reply

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  • @Bayshark (Comment 33) : I also had the aspect ratio problem so did not see it. I did hear the commentators though and what I heard was Stransky saying that it was a shocker FROM Bismark.

  • Comment 34, posted at 21.10.13 12:22:54 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Bayshark (Comment 33) : You sure on that last sentence? I don’t recall the commentators saying that. My memory may be letting me down here but I may even remember them expressing shock at Bismarck’s actions.

  • Comment 35, posted at 21.10.13 12:24:05 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Bayshark (Comment 33) : U sure you were watching this weekend’s game? I sat a few metres away and clearly saw Bismarck stamp on him. It was delibrate and he caught the Cheetahs player in the ribs not the chest. Im all for giving the players the benefit of the doubt as its a physical game but even Bismarck needs to take responsibility for what he did. It was stupid and reckless and he is lucky it did not cost his team the result.

  • Comment 36, posted at 21.10.13 12:34:58 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 35) : I recall Stransky say a shocker FROM Bismarck – but then he is so biased against the Sharks nowadays that he would say the same if Bismarck gave mouth to mouth to a drowning person.

    The replay was so quick – and I really could not make out what was going on.

  • Comment 37, posted at 21.10.13 12:36:59 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 36) : It did look to me more like a kick to the ribs than a real stamp? Regardless he would still be in trouble

  • Comment 38, posted at 21.10.13 12:40:29 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 38) : The Cheetahs player was sort of holding his leg so he kicked out/ stamped to get free and well you cant do that. It really depends on the view of the judiciary panel how they view it.

  • Comment 39, posted at 21.10.13 12:55:15 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Farlington (Comment 22) : I have now idea. Maybe the lack of atmosphere. Something I felt started to decline in recent years. Plus the weather these past couple of weeks have really been not nice. I also felt that the bad PR over that death incident has scared away a lot of people and this is fueled on by rival supporters and their stories. Barney and his team will have to start sitting down and analyse and change everything from the marketing of the games, to outer field activities, pre-match entertainment, post match entertainment and most of all a winning team.

  • Comment 40, posted at 21.10.13 13:31:50 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • judgement reserved – ruling will be made tomorrow

  • Comment 41, posted at 21.10.13 17:14:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • Bismarck hearing is tomorrow. God I hope its good news for the Sharks.
    IMO it deserved a yellow but not a red. This was more of a ruck than a stomp and Charl’s one on a players arm, earlier in the CC, looked worse to me. Which resulted in a penalty and nothing more.

  • Comment 42, posted at 21.10.13 17:16:22 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 41) : Heard this on the news, I dont understand it – so the hearing is done and dusted but they will only make the decision tomorrow, why, must one or other broeder or booze baron give their approval? :twisted:

  • Comment 43, posted at 21.10.13 21:28:42 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • I could not see anything either. I don’t believe there was anything at all serious. I watched it over and over. It did look like Labuschagne had Bismarck’s foot in his hands. I saw Bismarck fall over and when he tried to get up he was stepping as carefully as he could so it seemed. A bit of over-reaction from the touch judge, I think – just because it was Bissie! ‘m totally not convinced that he did anything wrong!

  • Comment 44, posted at 22.10.13 14:05:35 by [email protected] Reply

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