Richard Ferguson

Boks without Fourie for France clash


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 18 Nov 2013 at 09:35
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The Springboks will not have scrumhalf Fourie du Preez at their disposal for the crunch clash against France this weekend, after it was agreed that he be released to his Japanese club after the match against Scotland.

Du Preez started both the November international matches so far, against Wales and Scotland, but will not be on the field against France. This release was arranged before the tour commenced, and he is replaced in the squad by Jano Vermaak. It is likely that Ruan Pienaar will start the match with a bun fight between Vermaak and Louis Schreuder for the bench spot.

Meyer was quoted as saying that it was always part of the plan for Vermaak to join the team ahead of the France clash, allowing him to get some game time with Toulouse, where he has had a few good games.

Further changes to the line up are likely as Frans Malherbe and Francois Louw are both doubtful after taking knocks in the Scotland match. Louw was stretchered off the park after taking a cynical hit from Scotland’s Jim Hamilton. Malherbe hurt his rib cartilage in the match, forcing him off the field in the first half already, and it is highly unlikely that he will feature in the last tour match.



23 Comments

  • Schreuder was never ever going to play if this deal was made before the tour started. What a joke taking him. Pienaar will start with Vermaak on the bench. Malherbe will be out apparently so Coenie will start and we will perhaps see Adriaanse on the bench. I believe Louw should play but him and Alberts will be monitored during training. Kolisi will play but will be tough leaving Coetzee out after the way he played on Sunday. Steyn will come in for Lambie.

  • Comment 1, posted at 18.11.13 10:00:46 by SheldonK Reply
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  • “Ruan Pienaar and Morne Steyn – a mouth-watering prospect of a 9-10 axis” – said no one, ever…

  • Comment 2, posted at 18.11.13 10:02:28 by MerckZ Reply
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  • I don’t understand why HM started with Fdp when he knew he wouldn’t have him available for the French, surely the other scrummies should have been getting some gametime and improving their form? So Ruan will start against the French and would always have started against the French, but his form of late suggests that 2 games against lesser opponents would at the very least have given the coach some time to work on specific thing that he is unhappy with, with the player??

    Unless he is 100% happy with Ruan and just wanted to give Fdp some gametime?

    Don’t get it.

    We might lose Flouw and Alberts for this game too! Why play them against the Welsh and the Scotts in the first place when you have two good loosies who surely could have done the job against these two teams?

    Malherbe starts against the Scotts and the Welsh, so now HM’s little tighhead project has to start against the French, when clearly HM doesn’t feel he is ready to take on even lesser sides from the start of a match?

    At least Etzebeth got a break this weekend and Bissie, Beast. But it’s amazing that Jean is still standing.

    I really think HM could have used a few more young players in the first 2 games.

  • Comment 3, posted at 18.11.13 10:26:02 by Letgo Reply
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  • The only reason Vermaak is playing is because he is already in France & they can save on travelling costs :twisted: I wonder if PSdT will play? Lambie had a good enough game to warrant playing again. Bakkies,Fourie & Flip should be rested .Beast should start again with Bismarck. Guthro is a better impact player than starter. Adriaanse should get a run. My team would look like this.
    Le Roux
    Habana
    JJ
    JdV
    JP
    Lambie
    Pienaar
    Vermeulen
    Coetzee
    Kolisi
    Etsebeth
    PSdT
    Beast
    Bismarck
    Adriaanse/Coenie
    Reserves
    Adriaan
    Guthro
    Coenie/Adriaanse
    Flip
    Willem
    Vermaak
    Steyn
    Serfontein

  • Comment 4, posted at 18.11.13 10:35:18 by markm Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 3) : There’s a lot of things in this Heineken era that I don’t get!!!
    But it was GOOD to see all the SAAAKS taking charge in the Scotland game!

  • Comment 5, posted at 18.11.13 10:35:37 by R Hayward Reply

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  • Can Ruan Pienaar take any longer behind a ruck to spread the ball while it is clearly available?

  • Comment 6, posted at 18.11.13 12:14:49 by Bite me Reply

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  • @Bite me (Comment 6) : guess thats another thing boks must work on then: organisation on attack needs to be quicker.think fitness also needs work.abs seem the fittest team in world rugby.that helps plenty – cover defence and support play,etc.

  • Comment 7, posted at 18.11.13 12:20:16 by 50shadesofblackandwhite Reply

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  • we will be up against it on Saturday. If Coenie is selected at 3 he is in for a rough ride. Yannick Forestier the France loosehead got the better of Ben Franks. Any questions on Coenies ability to be considered as the long term replacement for Jannie will be answered on Saturday night once and for all. As for Ruan well we better hope the platform is decent because Morgan Parra and Dusautoir will be all over him.

  • Comment 8, posted at 18.11.13 12:24:51 by slammerboy Reply

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  • @slammerboy (Comment 8) : im kinda glad it is parra and not kockott!

  • Comment 9, posted at 18.11.13 12:26:30 by 50shadesofblackandwhite Reply

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  • I suspect Ruan and Morne will start. I do hope that Vermaak and Lambie gets a chance towards the end of the game.

  • Comment 10, posted at 18.11.13 12:26:40 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Just had to google forestier: 1.81m 109-110kg.one is so used to the idea of props having to be hulk-like.

  • Comment 11, posted at 18.11.13 12:35:26 by 50shadesofblackandwhite Reply

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  • @50shadesofblackandwhite (Comment 11) : They have some strong locks – Pascal Pape the most experienced. Yoann Maestri is 2.02 and 121 kgs. Their 3rd lock is Sebastien Vaahaamahina at 2.03 and 126kg.

  • Comment 12, posted at 18.11.13 12:44:59 by slammerboy Reply

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  • @slammerboy (Comment 12) : vaahaamahina seemed big when he came on vs abs,but didnt seem to play “big”.

  • Comment 13, posted at 18.11.13 13:02:35 by 50shadesofblackandwhite Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 3) :

    To get as much game time out of him in his already limited availability?

    Louis was always going to be a tourist, just like Scarra. There have been many tourists to Bok tours before.

    The scrumhalf pecking order has remained the same for the last 2 years about.

    And you cannot plan for injuries.

  • Comment 14, posted at 18.11.13 13:18:52 by Morné Reply
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  • Such a good time for a young scrumhalf to play himself into the Bok squad and a place in the World Cup 2015. I hope young Reinach will take this opportunity next year but I do not see him as the type of scrumhalf that Heyneke wants.

  • Comment 15, posted at 18.11.13 13:29:15 by Bite me Reply

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  • @Bite me (Comment 15) : yes heyneke and myself have spoken and its a no-go on reinach…..sry

  • Comment 16, posted at 18.11.13 16:47:20 by KingsArmy Reply

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  • Its not even worth discussing the nr9 jersey, there really is no one sticking their hand up…..

  • Comment 17, posted at 18.11.13 16:49:38 by KingsArmy Reply

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  • @Bite me (Comment 6) : this weekend ruan will show u just how long he can take……lol

  • Comment 18, posted at 18.11.13 16:51:58 by KingsArmy Reply

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  • Kirsten…

  • Comment 19, posted at 18.11.13 18:08:09 by bchanakira2 Reply
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  • Would have been better if the headline read ” Boks without Jacque Fourie” don’t understand how JF can play ahead of JJ. He’s a shadow of the player he once was. He’s Japan stint has messed with his game. JPP is just lucky he hasn’t been there for that long. Bakeries was also not impressive, don’t think he should have a place on the bench ahead of PSDT. HM wishes he had coached the Boks after White, he’s using his predetermined selections of 2007 – 2011 in 2013. Sure he was tempted to talk John Smit to come out of retirement. What a joke. Catch a wake – up HM. Bakeries and Victor are no longer Bok international quality….. Build for 2015.

  • Comment 20, posted at 19.11.13 07:58:59 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 20) : bakkies didn’t play bad at all……eben and bissie didn’t have good games when they came on, does that mean u wonna drop them aswell….

  • Comment 21, posted at 19.11.13 08:38:28 by KingsArmy Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 20) :

    Bakkies wasn’t impressive?

  • Comment 22, posted at 19.11.13 08:47:49 by Morné Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 20) : Bakkies was all over the field. He does the hard work at the rucks and malls and he gets across to make tackles. The only lock that comes close is PSDT. I’ll be dead happy if Eben, Bakkies, PSDT is our frontline locks with Flip and maybe Lood de Jager as their understudies.

  • Comment 23, posted at 19.11.13 09:32:26 by MysticShark Reply
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