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Whiteley leads young Lions pride


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Lions, Original Content, Super Rugby on 13 Feb 2014 at 11:44
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Former Glenwood boy Warren Whiteley will lead the Lions back into Super Rugby against the Cheetahs on Saturday. Johan Ackermann has gambled on a side featuring six newcomers at this level.

Marnitz bBoshoff makes a long-awaited debut in the competition, picked at flyhalf alongside the somewhat more experienced Michael Bondesio. Pumas center Stefan Watermeyer gets the nod at 12 ahead of veteran Alwyn Hollenbach, who will feature off the bench. Watermeyer has a solitary Super Rugby cap from his Bulls days, while fullback Chrysander Botha joins Boshoff in making his first appearance.

It’s up front, though, where the lack of experience is most telling. Whiteley is joined by veteran flankers Derick Minnie and Jaco Kriel, but Franco van der Merwe is the only previously-capped member of a rather green tight five. Another former Sharks man, Julian Redelinghuys, will make his competition debut at tighthead, alongside fellow rookies in Robbie Coetzee and Schalk van der Merwe. Franco Mostert, picked alongside van der Merwe in the number 4 jersey, is also untried at this level.

Three more uncapped players wait on the bench for their first taste of Super Rugby: prop Jacques van Rooyen, scrumhalf Faf de Klerk and Pumas utility back Coenie van Wyk.

Lions: 15 Chrysander Botha, 14 Deon van Rensburg, 13 Lionel Mapoe, 12 Stefan Watermeyer, 11 Ruan Combrinck, 10 Marnitz Boshoff, 9 Michael Bondesio, 8 Warren Whiteley, 7 Derick Minnie, 6 Jaco Kriel, 5 Franco van der Merwe, 4 Franco Mostert, 3 Julian Redelinghuys, 2 Robbie Coetzee, 1 Schalk van der Merwe.
Replacements: 16 Willie Wepener, 17 Jacques van Rooyen, 18 Ruan Dreyer, 19 Willie Britz, 20 Warwick Tecklenburg, 21 Francois de Klerk, 22 Coenie van Wyk, 23 Alwyn Hollenbach.



34 Comments

  • Oooh eish…it could be a long year

  • Comment 1, posted at 13.02.14 11:56:14 by SheldonK Reply
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  • No Sponsor + No depth + Average coach = Whipping dogs ?
    SA rugby would have been better off keeping the Kings ?

  • Comment 2, posted at 13.02.14 12:02:10 by Observer Reply
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  • @Observer (Comment 2) : that’s my contention, yes

  • Comment 3, posted at 13.02.14 12:07:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 3) : Sharks team is up on the Sharks website…

  • Comment 4, posted at 13.02.14 12:09:32 by AlienArmy Reply

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  • @Observer (Comment 2) :

    i would say its more or less the same . Kings didnt start off with a sponsor ?

    Besides . Lions beat the kings with a badly depleted squad . winning is winning . whether its by an ince or a mile

  • Comment 5, posted at 13.02.14 12:10:32 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 3) :

    Support your Sharks team . Let us Lions fan worry about our team . focus on the good :P

  • Comment 6, posted at 13.02.14 12:13:53 by Zibbie Reply
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  • I can’t recall, but did the Kings beat the Lions to gain entry into SR?

  • Comment 7, posted at 13.02.14 12:27:55 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 7) :

    wait .. i will have to check that one for you … one moment …

  • Comment 8, posted at 13.02.14 12:30:17 by Zibbie Reply
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  • This Lions team has me worried, our defence is not up to standard and we do not have quality deph in most positions

  • Comment 9, posted at 13.02.14 12:32:00 by Mutley Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 8) : Yup the Kings hammered them in the political game haha

  • Comment 10, posted at 13.02.14 12:43:16 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 10) :

    the one wehre the Kings did not have 1 player of color on the field for the last 20 min of the second promotion game ? :P

  • Comment 11, posted at 13.02.14 12:48:56 by Zibbie Reply
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  • This is not a bad Lions side…

  • Comment 12, posted at 13.02.14 12:51:18 by Talent Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 11) : Surely their jersey colour counted? I mean come one how technical do you want to get? haha But seriously this Lions side isnt bad, its just not super stars. Defense will be the biggest concern. If they can keep their defense tight then they have a chance every game.

  • Comment 13, posted at 13.02.14 12:54:57 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Zibbie (Comment 11) : we don’t discuss that here.

  • Comment 14, posted at 13.02.14 12:55:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 13) :

    ah man . i dont have much hope for the Lions . this SR season . what im hoping for is that we can stay in SR and build a team …

    @robdylan (Comment 14) :

    sorry , i was lured :P

  • Comment 15, posted at 13.02.14 13:09:12 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 15) : We as I said you dont have the Super stars but if you can win our scrums/lineouts and kickoffs its a good start. Then minimise the penalty count and work hard on defense. On atatack id tell guys to keep it simple and play whats in front of them. Get the basics right (The Lions biggest issue in Super rugby) then the rest kinda comes together.

  • Comment 16, posted at 13.02.14 13:14:21 by SheldonK Reply

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  • bBoshoff is a very good player. Could be a Bok contender at 10.

  • Comment 17, posted at 13.02.14 13:14:30 by Big Fish Reply
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  • 11 SR rookies in the squad. A tough ask to beat a settled Cheetahs side in Bloem but I’ll be at the FS Stadium

  • Comment 18, posted at 13.02.14 13:29:43 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 18) : Well as they say win your home games and grab as many points as possible on the road. So even 1 or 2 points in Bloem will go down well.

  • Comment 19, posted at 13.02.14 13:35:01 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 19) : Cheetahs vs Lions games in the past were a bit of a tit for tat and the Cheetahs have never won in SR against the Lions in Bloem (grabbing at straws, you see :) )

  • Comment 20, posted at 13.02.14 13:52:34 by Baylion Reply

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  • The Lions newly launched site has Mapoe at 101kg these days!!

  • Comment 21, posted at 13.02.14 13:54:12 by Saffex Reply

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  • @Saffex (Comment 21) : Hopefully a fit 101kgs

  • Comment 22, posted at 13.02.14 13:55:15 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 20) : Grab all those straws hahaha

  • Comment 23, posted at 13.02.14 14:00:30 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 22) : Yeah its good to see a site actually use current weights…..so many just use old historic weights and stats and never update them…….

    Minnie has gone from 100kg to 111kg!!!

    Mapoe 87kg to 101kg

    Helberg 90kg to 102kg

    Volmink 87kg to 93kg etc

  • Comment 24, posted at 13.02.14 14:42:33 by Saffex Reply

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  • @Saffex (Comment 24) : Well, they had 18 months to update everything :)

  • Comment 25, posted at 13.02.14 14:53:02 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 25) : Yeah but you look at the Bulls site which is also new and they have just inserted the old historic stats, which is poor

    The Sharks do the same……I sent them a e-mail once as their stats were so poor, to their credit they responded and changed the stats…..they said they just used the sarugby sites stats……..why not take the trouble to get the actual facts from the Sharks inner circle themselves……basics really

  • Comment 26, posted at 13.02.14 15:11:43 by Saffex Reply

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  • @Saffex (Comment 24) : Doesn`t Mapoe have at least 3 metal pins to hold his knee together? That should account for some of the weight . . . :twisted:

  • Comment 27, posted at 13.02.14 15:22:23 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Saffex (Comment 26) : yeah, it’s a bugbear of mine as well. Sharks website doesn’t even have player stats at all at the moment.

  • Comment 28, posted at 13.02.14 15:23:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Saffex (Comment 26) : Surely the players get weighed and measured regularly? All the stats are available at the unions. The SARU database only have the last stats provided by the players’ unions.

  • Comment 29, posted at 13.02.14 15:25:07 by Baylion Reply

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  • Jeez guys, you have written these guys off already. The Lions are a proud franchise with a good team spirit, they could surprise a few like the Kings did last year. To be honest I think their squad is better than the Kings had last year….give them a chance and support all SA franchises…

  • Comment 30, posted at 13.02.14 15:28:15 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 30) : Oh don`t get me wrong. They`ve got my full support when they play against sides like the bulls or Tahs . . .

  • Comment 31, posted at 13.02.14 15:48:16 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 28) : Mine to in a big way……hell surely those that input the stats, must have some kind of love for the game……why would you not strive to do the job properly?

    Bottom line is, those that administrate those sites, should not be

    Rob, get the Sharks to sort their website out……I also noticed no player stats on there……the Lions site sets and example……up to date stats and a nice little profile on each player…..refreshing to see

  • Comment 32, posted at 13.02.14 16:27:59 by Saffex Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 29) : Exactly…..so the Union has the correct up to date stats, but those that run the relevant websites dont bother to extract that info from the union……they just hash up the old out of date stats that can be found on Wik or SA rugby…….its unprofessional

  • Comment 33, posted at 13.02.14 16:30:05 by Saffex Reply

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  • Well done Lions, first ‘shock’ of the tourno :-)

  • Comment 34, posted at 16.02.14 10:30:24 by Grasshopper Reply

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