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Frans Steyn cited


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 30 Mar 2014 at 12:12
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In a rather bittersweet addendum to yesterday’s good win over the Waratahs, SANZAR have revealed that Sharks centre Frans Steyn has been cited for a dangerous tackle on opposite number Kurtley Beale.

SANZAR’s release states that “Steyn is alleged to have contravened Law 10.4 (e) Dangerous tackling when he made contact with Waratahs’ player Kurtley Beale during the match between the Sharks and Waratahs at Growthpoint KINGS PARK in Durban on Saturday 29 March 2014. The referee for the match, Mike Fraser, awarded a penalty for the incident which occurred in the 24th minute.

“Upon further review of the match footage, the Citing Commissioner deemed in his opinion the incident had met the red card threshold for foul play.The Citing is to be considered in the first instance by SANZAR Duty Judicial Officer Jannie Lubbe SC.”

Waratahs wing Rob Horne was also cited for an earlier incident, when it is alleged he executed a high, stiff-arm tackle, ironically against Steyn.

We’ll know more about any sanctions during the course of next week.



28 Comments

  • Is the fact that he was provoked by the stiff-arm a mitigating or aggravating factor? :roll:

  • Comment 1, posted at 30.03.14 12:16:38 by Greg Reply
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  • @Greg (Comment 1) : It clearly establishes cause. It lead to a moment of temporary insanity during which Kurtley Beale was ‘distributed’ across the playing field and therefore in my (ignorant) legal opinion should be considered a mitigating factor.

  • Comment 2, posted at 30.03.14 12:43:40 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Greg (Comment 1) : @vanmartin (Comment 2) : this is exactly what I was afraid of. I’m sure he will get at least an extra week off.

  • Comment 3, posted at 30.03.14 14:58:13 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 3) : You may well be right *sigh*. On the bright side though, if Jordaan comes back at 12 for the Lions game we will have probably the fastest centre combo in Super rugby! :grin:

  • Comment 4, posted at 30.03.14 15:09:20 by Greg Reply

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  • @Greg (Comment 4) : would prefer Heimar at 12.

  • Comment 5, posted at 30.03.14 15:16:27 by JD Reply
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  • For every week Steyn receives, Horne should get double imo.

  • Comment 6, posted at 30.03.14 18:46:18 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • This is where I would want to have Whitehead step in at 12. With Zeilinga at 10 and Sbura at 13 you would want experience between them. I suppose Jordaan has the next most experience after Whitehead so he must be the favourite to play 12. Think I would prefer Heimar there though

  • Comment 7, posted at 30.03.14 19:04:25 by woody Reply
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  • @woody (Comment 7) : if Steyn is not available I don’t think JW will pick Tim, think JW will pick Jordaan but I would pick Heimar. Fred and Heimar played together in Currie cup and playing against Lions in Super rugby is not all that deferent than playing them in Super rugby.

  • Comment 8, posted at 30.03.14 21:58:01 by JD Reply
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  • In fact Steyn should not be banned. That tackle took place within the time frame of 1 second. He grabbed Beale by the jersey who then offloads. There is nothing wrong with that tackle according to rugby rules imho. Beale fell awkwardly, making it looking dangerous but most of us had been part of those tackles in our careers.
    The ref also pinned him for an offence which took place after the shoulder charge offence by Potgieter, because the ref mistakenly though that Steyn’s tackle was the first offence.
    However the sighting commissioner shall do well to study Paulu’s shoulder charge on Deysel (on Steyn 43:49) and Beales knee to JP’s face (34:20 min) after the whistle, And the short punches in the loose by 16 especially, the pick up and driving tackle on Steyn (44min) by 15, Fowley choking Jannie on our first try, Skelton’s shoulder on Chadwick (67:04) punch on the ground no1 (73:53)
    Waratahs shall now have to watch their discipline going forward. The coach who must have incited his guys to such off the ball stuff, was the first to run onto the pitch to complain. Karma friend, karma!

  • Comment 9, posted at 30.03.14 22:38:35 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 8) : Not all that different??? I would go so far as to say playing the Lions in Super rugby is exactly the same as playing them in Super rugby. :cool: :razz:

  • Comment 10, posted at 30.03.14 23:05:25 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 8) : I know he won’t play Tim but this is one game where I definitely would

  • Comment 11, posted at 30.03.14 23:37:16 by woody Reply
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  • Horne got a one week ban according to SMH

  • Comment 12, posted at 31.03.14 05:35:39 by Baylion Reply

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  • Noooo. Although, given how well replacements have slotted in for us this season, I am confident we’d cope! Still, Frans’ boot would be very useful on the highveld (no penalties within 62m…or 3 points…I like the sound of that!). Does anyone know when Frans’ hearing is?

  • Comment 13, posted at 31.03.14 06:45:56 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 13) : @pastorshark (Comment 13) : Horne might have pleaded quilty, which is why his result was quick. Although they argued that it was unintentional.

    Kurtley Beale is suffering from whiplash and that may affect FS’s outcome

  • Comment 14, posted at 31.03.14 06:54:51 by Baylion Reply

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  • Sharks centre Frans Steyn has been given an off-field yellow card for a dangerous tackle on the Waratahs’ Kurtley Beale.

    Steyn pleaded guilty to contravening Law 10.4 (e) Dangerous tackling. The referee for the match, Mike Fraser, awarded a penalty for the incident which occurred in the 24th minu

  • Comment 15, posted at 31.03.14 07:58:39 by Baylion Reply

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  • Both Steyn and Horne should have received yellow cards during the game. With Horne lucky to not get a straight red as that was more a punch than a stiff arm tackle- his intention was not to tackle. Steyn will receive a 2 match ban in my opinion and Horne will possibly get the same or 1 game.

  • Comment 16, posted at 31.03.14 07:59:20 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Steyn got a off field yellow with no ban. Horne received the same and a ban for the stormers game.

  • Comment 17, posted at 31.03.14 08:05:27 by Seth101 Reply
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  • “The citing commissioner correctly pointed out in his report that as a result of the late tackle, the Waratahs player was placed at risk of injury to his spinal and head area.

    “Gerrie Swart submitted on behalf of the player that the initial tackle was legitimate and that Steyn had no intent of causing injury to his opponent as he was not in a position to observe that the tackled player had passed the ball.

    “In assessing the circumstances around the incident, an off-field yellow card was considered the appropriate sanction as a suspension was not warranted for the offence.”
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  • Comment 18, posted at 31.03.14 08:08:18 by Seth101 Reply
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  • I think both Steyn and Horne got off lightly. Altho in fairness Steyn should have only got a yellow during the game, nothing more. Horne’s was far more cynical and he is very lucky.

  • Comment 19, posted at 31.03.14 08:16:28 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Seth101 (Comment 18) :

    That’s good news if it is accurate.

    There’s lo law, as far as I know that says you can’t pull a player down by his jersey. I think Steyn should be careful though and let go of players once he realises they have released the ball. He did the same against Genia.

  • Comment 20, posted at 31.03.14 08:18:05 by Letgo Reply
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  • What does an off-field yellow mean for the player? It is like a strike one? And next strike will be red?

  • Comment 21, posted at 31.03.14 08:21:06 by bokbok Reply

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  • @bokbok (Comment 21) :

    Nothing. It means it goes on his record as if he got the yellow in the Waratahs game. If you check the stats, Steyn will now have a yellow behind his name and the Sharks one extra behind theirs.

  • Comment 22, posted at 31.03.14 08:25:10 by Letgo Reply
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  • @bokbok (Comment 21) : No, but it counts against him should he be cited again

  • Comment 23, posted at 31.03.14 08:25:57 by Baylion Reply

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  • The ref really should have dished out a yellow with the first incident with Horne. Probably would have kept the rest of the game far cleaner.

  • Comment 24, posted at 31.03.14 08:34:24 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 24) : Agreed

  • Comment 25, posted at 31.03.14 08:40:02 by SheldonK Reply

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  • According to someone on R365 3 yellows get you a hearing (similar to RC)

  • Comment 26, posted at 31.03.14 09:04:57 by Baylion Reply

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  • Steyn lucky to get away with this, and hope it is a bit of a wake up call to be more disciplined and self controlled.

  • Comment 27, posted at 31.03.14 09:17:33 by stevovo Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 26) : yes, I think that’s right…. and whether they are on-field or off-field yellows doesn’t matter

  • Comment 28, posted at 31.03.14 09:23:29 by robdylan Reply
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