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Du Preez’s future in blue and white


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, WP on 1 Apr 2014 at 16:37
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Junior Springbok flyhalf Robert du Preez has been released from his contract with the Sharks and will join Western Province with immediate effect.

The tall 20-year-old pivot is the son of Springbok scrumhalf Robert Senior, who is currently coaching North West University in the Varsity Cup; it was in this very competition that young Rob made a name for himself this year, excelling for Maties as a loan player.

Du Preez, who attended Kearsney College in Botha’s Hill, is a born-and-bred Natalian, having represented the province at age-group level all the way from under 16 up through to under 21 last year. He was regularly preferred at flyhalf to schoolboy star Handre Pollard during last year’s IRB Junior World Championship and built further on that showing by starting the majority of games for the Sharks under 21 side. Du Preez is still eligible for under 21 rugby this year.

Ironically, it was the arrival in Durban of Tim Swiel, who played against du Preez in Western Province colours last year, that has led to the 1.9m flyhalf moving in search of game time. Swiel has already gained senior caps for the Sharks and the odds are pretty good that du Preez will go on to do the same for Western Province in the not-too-distant future.

While it’s never nice to lose one of your “own”, we understand Rob’s reasons and wish him well with his career in Cape Town. Younger brothers Jean-Luc and Daniel remain with the Sharks, were both are contracted as under 19 players.



52 Comments

  • F o k tog!!!

  • Comment 1, posted at 01.04.14 16:41:53 by BoerSeun Reply
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  • eish

  • Comment 2, posted at 01.04.14 16:54:14 by Poisy Reply
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  • Welcome Laddy!

  • Comment 3, posted at 01.04.14 16:56:16 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • this is gonna bite us soon

  • Comment 4, posted at 01.04.14 17:00:13 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 3) : good coup for you guys…. have to say, I really can’t see the logic in our u21 flyhalf signing for you guys and yours signing for us.

  • Comment 5, posted at 01.04.14 17:00:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • @BoerSeun (Comment 1) : ja boet, ai fok!

  • Comment 6, posted at 01.04.14 17:01:26 by R Hayward Reply

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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 3) : Try not to coach the talent out of him….please :twisted:

  • Comment 7, posted at 01.04.14 17:01:34 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 4) : can’t shake that feeling myself.

  • Comment 8, posted at 01.04.14 17:03:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • i hope someone told him cape town is k a k in winter and the cable car gets old after the second time

  • Comment 9, posted at 01.04.14 17:03:17 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • Ag nee man! And the sad thing is that this is genuinely not an April Fool’s joke! This is a real pity…
    What stages are the other du Preez sons at?

  • Comment 10, posted at 01.04.14 17:08:34 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 4) : When last have the wp been able to deliver an international fh?

    Their track record has not been very good lately. Look at Janties and Katjie-kielies playing for the streamers vs. playing for other unions.

    Too little change happening at the wp, one director don’t make a season.

    Think it’s a loss to the Sharks though, but competition is exceptionally strong at the Sharks.

    I am a bit shocked that the Sharks were willing to let him out of his contract, which probably indicates that JW does not see him in his future plans for the Sharks.

  • Comment 11, posted at 01.04.14 17:10:55 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Ah…read to the end and you’ll find the answer…JeanLuc and Daniel are contracted as u19 players. What are their actual ages?

  • Comment 12, posted at 01.04.14 17:11:18 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 12) : they’re both 18… turning 19 on 5 August.

  • Comment 13, posted at 01.04.14 17:14:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • I’m worried about the twins too… reason being, I don’t know whether either has the pace to make it as a loose forward in senior rugby, while they are both definitely too short to play lock.

  • Comment 14, posted at 01.04.14 17:22:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • Best move province made in 5 years. I like him, I know there a people who coached him and pollard and rate him higher. I always knew he had to be in JW plans with such a frame. I think his position might be at 12 or 15 in a couple of seasons he is just going to get bigger soon. And we all know what that means in South Africa. Good luck Rob…come back if your dad coaches the Sharks!

  • Comment 15, posted at 01.04.14 17:27:59 by BoerSeun Reply

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  • Well, in the pecking order, where would du Preez be realistically? Lambie, Zeilinga, Swiel then du Preez? Makes sense then for Rob, no? Warming the bench in vodacom cup games vs game time in super rugby, probably this season still.

  • Comment 16, posted at 01.04.14 17:32:49 by Sharkszen Reply

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  • @Sharkszen (Comment 16) : this year, I think he would have grown a lot this year. I think the sharks should have looked at the long term Salutions. His goal kicking including long range being a critical factor.

  • Comment 17, posted at 01.04.14 17:38:10 by BoerSeun Reply

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  • I haven’t posted a comment in months, but this news – although expected since his move to Maties – is bloody annoying! It’s the result of not having a tertiary education system in KZN that apart from being competitive on the sport field allows the guys to obtain a qualification that is on par with the best… The foundation in KZN is still very shaky

  • Comment 18, posted at 01.04.14 17:38:47 by SuperEtts Reply
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  • Zeilinga, Swiel not far in front of this young man.

  • Comment 19, posted at 01.04.14 17:39:22 by BoerSeun Reply

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  • @BoerSeun (Comment 19) : I agree completely, but from Rob’s perspective it must be in the back of his mind that he will taste super rugby sooner while at province than with the Sharks. Also, we don’t know how much money was offered to him. I’m sure that province would have offered him a very lucrative contract..

  • Comment 20, posted at 01.04.14 17:55:11 by Sharkszen Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) : I too found it a bit silly but its a nice change to actually sign someone decent instead of losing a talent

  • Comment 21, posted at 01.04.14 18:06:30 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 13) : Thanks Rob…

  • Comment 22, posted at 01.04.14 18:16:51 by pastorshark Reply
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  • The way I see it is the harsh truth, one is better then then other, to be the best you choose the best. Good luck at WP, I expect he will be playing Super Rugby sooner rather then later.

  • Comment 23, posted at 01.04.14 18:47:04 by Seth101 Reply
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  • T@robdylan (Comment 8) : to be quite honest I simply can’t see the sense in the Sharks just letting one of the brightest prospects at FH go to another union. If he left after his contract concluded that’s another story but just releasing such a quality player does not make sense to me at all especially seeing that Pat is already out for the rest of the season. Good luck at WP Rob.

  • Comment 24, posted at 01.04.14 20:05:18 by JD Reply
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  • With the little I have seen of both Swiel and Du Prees, I prefer Du Preez. We’ll see in future if this was a good move, I suspect not, especially because this would have influenced loyalty. Had we kept Du Prees, we would have had a player that had gone through the ranks with the Sharks, mostly, those guys tend to stay for a while.

  • Comment 25, posted at 02.04.14 07:10:57 by Letgo Reply
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  • Although I am extremely pissed, surely J & J could not have predicted Lambie’s injury, Stormers (Catrekilis) poor form, Smal’s appointment etc etc. And this probably means Jake sees more in Swiel at the moment (and we can steal him back after 2016 with him having gained SR experience :twisted: )

  • Comment 26, posted at 02.04.14 08:24:05 by catfish Reply
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  • Before we all mourn the departure of a kid lets put it into perspective. AT the Sharks he was behind a Bok- Lmabie, the incumbent CC flyhalf- Zeilinga and now behind Tim Swiel- who is a more versatile player. There are also numerous junior flyhalves pushing him for a place. At WP he is behind Peter Grant, Demetri Catrakilis, Gary Van Aswegan etc. So yes injuries may open a gap for him there but same would apply at the Sharks. Clearly someone has promised him things at WP. But good luck to the guy

  • Comment 27, posted at 02.04.14 08:48:43 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 27) : “Clearly someone has promised him things at WP. But good luck to the guy” – I guess that sentence holds equally true for Swiel and the Sharks, and you are right – good luck to both guys.

  • Comment 28, posted at 02.04.14 09:05:26 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 25) : bear in mind you’ve seen a LOT more of du Preez simply because Swiel didn’t make himself eligible for Baby Bok selection

  • Comment 29, posted at 02.04.14 09:06:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • Always sad to see a talented youngster book out, but neither is it good for SA rugby for all the talented players in 1 position to be sitting in a logjam at 1 province (listening, Bulls?).

    du Preez is very talented, but we already have Lambie, Zeilinga and Swiel. IMO, it came down to a straight shoot between Swiel and du Preez, and while I am not sure who is gonna develop further yet, all I can say is that what I have seen of Swiel tells me that he is special – and it seems the Sharks coaches agree.

  • Comment 30, posted at 02.04.14 09:20:11 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 30) : got to add the name of Jean-Luc du Plessis to the list at the Sharks too.

  • Comment 31, posted at 02.04.14 09:26:52 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 28) : Yeh u 100% correct. Altho at the moment the Swiel promises are being delivered apon as he is in the Super rugby mix. I still think he is a very talented player and given time to get to know the players around him could be very very good and even push Lambie for his no.1 spot. No disrespect to Fred though who is also a really good player.

  • Comment 32, posted at 02.04.14 09:32:44 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 31) : I was wondering when Du Plessis’ name was going to be brought up. I dont think I have ever seen him play but have heard very good things about him, while at school Pollard was stealing the headlines but many that followed school boy rugby claim that he was the more talented (but smaller) player of the two.

  • Comment 33, posted at 02.04.14 09:47:35 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 32) : Yep, Sharks are really in a fortunate position as far as potential at flyhalf is concerned, even with the loss of Rob du Preez.

  • Comment 34, posted at 02.04.14 09:51:32 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 34) : How things have changed since the Plum era.

  • Comment 35, posted at 02.04.14 09:55:39 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 34) : Yes for sure. Although in modern day rugby is anyone really lost…i mean contracts dont seem to mean too much if a player is unhappy and wants to move on and on contracts just seem to be waived

  • Comment 36, posted at 02.04.14 09:58:45 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Good luck to you Rob, looking forward to seeing you play.

  • Comment 37, posted at 02.04.14 10:06:11 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 33) : sorry to say it, but I’ve yet to see anything to suggest that Pollard is skillful

  • Comment 38, posted at 02.04.14 10:18:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 38) : I agree with Rob, I Would take Du Preez above Pollard any day. Rob it seems that a Golden Boy Cheetah might be on his way to Europe.

    I heard the young man has greater ambitions to farm than play rugga at this stage – and he is also a bit demotivated by injury. Frans Steyn consolidating a bit of cash and coming back within 2 years with 20mil in the Bank to build up your farm whilst you play rugby again…Like Frans Steyn dit make sense. he came back a better player and financially in much better state. Cant say I would not agree if I was a youngster…any whispers on your side?

  • Comment 39, posted at 02.04.14 10:32:12 by BoerSeun Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 29) :

    That’s true. And it’s not like I haven’t been impressed with Swiel. He also seems like a good talent, it just seems weird to let one talented young up and coming player go for another. It seems like we could have backed Du Preez just as easily. Then again, maybe the Sharks was hoping to keep both or still feel they could get Du Preez back if needed?

  • Comment 40, posted at 02.04.14 10:34:36 by Letgo Reply
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  • @BoerSeun (Comment 39) :

    I heard he went to France in the Cheetahs bey week. It would be strange to see a 21 year old earmarked for the Bok 10 jersey to just leave that behind. I wouldn’t be able to understand that.

  • Comment 41, posted at 02.04.14 10:37:40 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 40) : Sharks need a Commercial manager that has player knowledge to manage risk like this. Lending Du Preez TO mATIES and seeing him do so well should have rung alarm bells long ago. Giving him a few new carrots at the Sharks. I must say Swiel had one over Du Preez in every game last year. But Du Preez is more mature, bigger, faster…he looks set for a great 2014. and the Sharks made that, we invested in him and handed him over to the Hooped Poops.

  • Comment 42, posted at 02.04.14 10:39:55 by BoerSeun Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 41) : Money talk. Frans Steyn came back and established a huge concern in cash(sy boerdery is moers). and these Grey boys talk, when I heard Bismark was made Captain I knew Jake secured him for at least his tenure at the Sharks or in my opinion he would have been gone end of 2014. life after rugby to secure that as a player must be a huge lure at the end of the day. you can get injured any day and who knows what a injury has in stall for you. not doing it asap is in fact risking it all.

  • Comment 43, posted at 02.04.14 10:46:44 by BoerSeun Reply

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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 4) : @Seth101 (Comment 23) : @robdylan (Comment 14) : @vanmartin (Comment 37) : ANY NEWS ON THE NEW LOCK????? I CANT WAIT TO SEE THIS UNFOLD.

  • Comment 44, posted at 02.04.14 10:50:08 by BoerSeun Reply

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  • @BoerSeun (Comment 43) :

    Sure, but Frans Steyn was 24 and had already won a WC medal with the Boks and had already played for the Boks for 6 years by then, which means he was always going to be one of those guys who will be close to selection even if he leaves.

    I think Goosen will throw away his Bok chances, even if he leaves for only a year or two. There’s too many other fly-halves that will be willing and able to take that shot if he leaves.

    I’m a more sentimental driven person though, maybe because I am of the female persuasion, but I would never give up a chance to play for the Boks.

    I get when players go when they feel they don’t have a chance or the chances are to small, but Goosen? No… won’t understand it.

  • Comment 45, posted at 02.04.14 12:11:04 by Letgo Reply
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  • @BoerSeun (Comment 42) :
    Du Preez is bigger, but certainly not faster. Swiel must be the quickest fly half around at the moment. Crazing the quickest I have seen since Brent Russell.

    Also not sure how you define maturity? Swiel is playing VC while du Preez played Varsity Cup. VC is a step up.

  • Comment 46, posted at 02.04.14 12:16:10 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 45) : have you watched Goosen this year? If Meyer is awake, there’s absolutely ZERO chance of him playing for the Boks.

  • Comment 47, posted at 02.04.14 13:07:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 46) : I agree Du Preez is not faster than Swiel, I rate Swiel highly being punting him since his school days. I meant Du Preez looks bigger faster and stronger than in 2013. I still think Swiel should get some opportunity at 15 or 13 should the need be. he is that talented.

    Regarding Vodacom Cup, I played a few Vodacom games, and spent most of my time in Western Province Club Rugby, and to be honest there is no difference vODACOM Cup rugby if I can give myself a downgrade, in 25% of games are a step up, but in most cases you should have been playing Hameltons or Maties in Stead of EP, bORDER, lions. Big Voda games are always. Sharks/Cheethas/bULLS/gRIEKWAS some times pumas, but not in my days.

    Varsity Cup rugby I think is much faster than VodaCom. Meaning a player who has a lot of space and time in Varsity Cup rugby will have even more in Vodacom Cup. He will however be hit much harder in 70% of the time he takes contact with vodacom cup.

    In my honest opinion Rugby Strucktures in South Africa Should look as Follows to allow us to look at structures like Varsity Cup vs Vodacom Cup or Community Cup(joke) for that matter.

    Springbok Duties
    Super Rugby
    Currie Cup

    Club Rugby Early Round Provincial Champs(Mrh till June)
    This is where all fringe players go on Club Duties and a provincial champ is crowned in every province(at this stage players can be on Loan under the right conditions, example they come out of club system and so on) Some provinces should also be allowed 2 Clubs. then these Clubs play a inter-province knockout(SWD VS BORDER VS County Roural Northern parts of eastern cape champs who play in their own divisions)(Clubs get drawn of challenge other clubs: Example Hameltons challenges Pirets to playoffs). In other words the Best 8 clubs in the country play in the Next Round. Let me tell you there is enough club support and structures to see this trough.

    June till August in conjunction with Currie Cup all Qualifying Clubs top 8 play in a National League(not the stupid community Cup Please), where provincial 7′s are also competed for as Currie Cup Pre Games.

    Then we also have StructureS Varsity Cup and Craven Week

    I would rather keep enterprising U/21 and U/19 and cut these other structures. DissaS’ Wildebeeste sorry to say but no one cares about this tier of rugby being played. there is more relevance in reviving Club rugby. then we have progressive relevant structures in South African Rugby. Where Questions like Vodacom Cup vs Varsity Cup is determined by a Clear defining standard players will stand up and be counted as to the level of league representation.

    Way off point sorry ;) but you got me thinking about this Q what level of rugby is most competitive and I think the Whole system sucks.

  • Comment 48, posted at 02.04.14 13:11:43 by BoerSeun Reply

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  • @BoerSeun (Comment 48) :
    Your grammar and punctuation sometimes make me cry inside, but I really enjoy some of the insights you share.

    Some really good points there.

    I guess I see in Swiel some of what I saw in Gaffie (not the brittle nerves). I cant help but get excited by a flyhalf who can step and burn a whole backline – and I have seen him do that many times (Gaffie did that too, before he lost it).

  • Comment 49, posted at 02.04.14 13:18:13 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 47) :

    He’s done nothing, but I don’t think Meyer really cares. We’ll see.

    Based on form and availability it should be Boshoff. Morne will always start and then Meyer needs a 3rd option, that could be anyone and will probably be Goosen. Based on form in SR, it should be Boshoff and JLP. We’ll see how Zeilinga goes. Oh and don’t forget Frans.

    I can’t see Meyer leaving Goosen out.

  • Comment 50, posted at 02.04.14 14:53:12 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 50) : Morne Steyn, Goosen, Boshoff. there is no other way to slice this. I think if we play:
    9.Du Preez( we can play Boshoff)/ Hougard(sucks)
    10. Boshoff/( Steyn with Hougard)
    11. JPP
    12.fRANS / Jean
    13. jEAN /JJ
    14. JJ/habanna/Willie

    15. willie /fRANS(Will be sad not to see frans at 12 or in the team)

  • Comment 51, posted at 02.04.14 15:24:09 by BoerSeun Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 49) : whats you bok backline?

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