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Steyn starts at flyhalf


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 30 Apr 2014 at 16:03
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Francois Steyn has been named at flyhalf in a rather drastically rejigged Cell C Sharks outfit named to face the Melbourne Rebels on Friday.

In all, Director of Rugby Jake White has made eight changes to his starting fifteen, although three of those are admittedly positional switches. The resulting combination is missing only S’bura Sithole to be considered the strongest available to the Sharks given the long-term injuries in the squad.

Lwazi Mvovo (fullback), Paul Jordaan (outside centre) and Charl McLeod (scrumhalf) are the only backs to keep their jerseys after the Highlanders defeat. Odwa Ndungane returns at right wing, prompting a shift leftwards for JP Pietersen (who takes over from the injured Sithole). Heimar Williams starts at inside centre, with Steyn pulling the strings from pivot.

Further changes up front see Ryan Kankowski start ahead of Keegan Daniel (number 8) and Jean Deysel come in for Willem Alberts at blindside flank. Marcell Coetzee retains his place, as do lock Stephan Lewies and props Jannie du Plessis and Beast Mtawarira. Bismarck du Plessis is fit again, coming in for Kyle Cooper at hooker, while Alberts takes over from Etienne Oosthuizen as starting lock.

Fresh faces on the bench this week are Cobus Reinach and Fred Zeilinga, both of whom are on the way back from injury. Tim Swiel and Tera Mtembu drop out of the squad this week, along with Stefan Ungerer and Franco Marais, neither of whom is on tour.

The Cell C Sharks

15. Lwazi Mvovo (Ricoh PMB Collegians)
14. Odwa Ndungane (Varsity College RFC)
13. Paul Jordaan (Varsity College RFC)
12. Heimar Williams (SA Home Loans Durban Collegians)
11. JP Pietersen (Thanda Zululand Rhinos)
10. Frans Steyn (SA Home Loans Durban Collegians)
9. Charl McLeod (Varsity College RFC)
8. Ryan Kankowski (Amanzimtoti Rugby Club)
7. Jean Deysel (Marshall Security Crusaders)
6. Marcell Coetzee (SA Home Loans Durban Collegians)
5. Stephan Lewies (Amanzimtoti Rugby Club)
4. Willem Alberts (SA Home Loans Durban Collegians)
3. Jannie du Plessis (Marshall Security Crusaders)
2. Bismarck du Plessis (Captain) (Marshall Security Crusaders)
1. Tendai Mtawarira (Jonsson College Rovers)

Replacements
16. Kyle Cooper (Jonsson College Rovers)
17. Dale Chadwick (Ricoh PMB Collegians)
18. Lourens Adriaanse (Amanzimtoti Rugby Club)
19. Etienne Oosthuizen (UKZN Impi)
20. Keegan Daniel (Jonsson College Rovers)
21. Cobus Reinach (SA Home Loans Durban Collegians)
22. Fred Zeilinga (SA Home Loans Durban Collegians)
23. SP Marais (Marshall Security Crusaders)



62 Comments

  • :| :shock: :sad: :roll: :razz: :???: I don’t know. After last weekend, lets wait and see…

  • Comment 1, posted at 30.04.14 16:06:01 by Southern_Shark Reply
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  • Well this is the strongest side he could pick. Go Sharls!!!!

  • Comment 2, posted at 30.04.14 16:07:01 by JD Reply
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  • Seems like he is taking no chances and this is one match that targeted for a win.

    I am happy with the side apart from the move of Steyn to flyhalf. Would of preferred to have seen Fred brought right back in and starting. Frans at flyhalf worries me.

  • Comment 3, posted at 30.04.14 16:09:52 by stevovo Reply
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  • Almost had it spot on! :mrgreen: Except for Frans at 10 and Heimar at 12. Like seeing both Reinach and Zeilinga’s names on the bench. Swiel dropping out altogether? Guess JW couldn’t resist moving Frans to 10 any longer. Still, happy with this team. Sharks by 8

  • Comment 4, posted at 30.04.14 16:10:39 by Another Nick Reply

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  • Jake has made no secret of the fact that after the shocking loss to the Highlanders, his troops are targeting Friday’s clash as a must win to regain the momentum and to get the tour off to a positive start.
    Looking at the pack in particular I would expect a huge physical battle and forward dominated play to wear down the Rebels; to coin the old cliche’ “Earning the right to go wide”
    Sharks can, and must win this one!

  • Comment 5, posted at 30.04.14 16:16:10 by Ragged Reply

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  • No Swiel! :lol: :razz: :smile:

  • Comment 6, posted at 30.04.14 16:18:07 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • Cant really fault Steyn starting at 10.
    Zeilinga needs to be there ahead of Swiel for now but is rightfully playing off the bench after a bit of a layoff.

    Good side.

  • Comment 7, posted at 30.04.14 16:19:09 by John Galt Reply

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  • Good side. JW def targeting a win here. Lets hope Odwa, Deysel are fully fit so we dont have last min withdrawls

  • Comment 8, posted at 30.04.14 16:19:15 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 6) :
    Sweil is young and has class written all over him.
    He’ll come good with a bit of experience.

  • Comment 9, posted at 30.04.14 16:19:57 by John Galt Reply

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  • I for one am glad that he didn’t rush fred right back in the starting position. I am happy with steyn there in the 10 jersey and I like heimar in the 12 as well. Great team this. I’m psyched and ready for this contest. I’d have personally loved andriaanse in jannie’s place. The poor man is gedaan. But I’m really happy with this team

  • Comment 10, posted at 30.04.14 16:23:47 by Stiko85 Reply

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  • @John Galt (Comment 9) : No doubt there, give him the CC to develop in, not in SR the year that we can least afford any slip ups.

  • Comment 11, posted at 30.04.14 16:24:13 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • Well if we loose this game then what do we have left?Cant see us coming back if we loose Friday evening.Its a must win!!!

  • Comment 12, posted at 30.04.14 16:27:14 by tigershark Reply

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  • @Ragged (Comment 5) : A win against the Rebels is non-negotiable. I will take a win by a single point.

    I hope Steyn is more comfortable kicking in this game.

  • Comment 13, posted at 30.04.14 16:30:52 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Jake probably told the guys this will be the season decider, and if we loose we might as well call it a day(or a year).

  • Comment 14, posted at 30.04.14 16:36:02 by tigershark Reply

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  • @tigershark (Comment 12) : Can’t see it being that bad yet…still plenty that can happen during this SR season.

  • Comment 15, posted at 30.04.14 16:36:37 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 13) : I am sure he will be as he now has more time to prepare mentally for a start at 10 with the responsibility of kicking for poles. He is pure class.

  • Comment 16, posted at 30.04.14 16:43:39 by Another Nick Reply

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  • Really don’t know what to make of that backline but hoping it works out well. Mostly worried about defence taking all the reshuffling into consideration.

  • Comment 17, posted at 30.04.14 16:44:29 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Another Nick (Comment 16) : I am talking more about him hobbling in pain after each kick. He has been kicking well this year.

  • Comment 18, posted at 30.04.14 16:47:32 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @tigershark (Comment 12) : brumbies, saders, blues, stormers, cheetahs, stormers again… Our season isn’t over yet buddy. The win is very important after a huge crushing defeat at home but its not all gloom and doom. Remember yesterday was redemption tuesday so we have new hope and a better outlook. Cheer up, we still on top and we still control our own fate.

  • Comment 19, posted at 30.04.14 16:50:34 by Stiko85 Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 15) : Well if we loose this game we certainly wont win the following week with even more tired bodies and stronger opposition.Then its the Saders in NZ and the Blues wont be a walk in the park either.Four losses and they will be very low on confidence when they take the stompies at newlands right after they return.Loose that one as well and its season over.All im saying is its a must win!!!

  • Comment 20, posted at 30.04.14 16:51:35 by tigershark Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 18) : True that! We desperately need Frans on the field as much as possible, but I hope that he isn’t pushed too far until he breaks down completely.

  • Comment 21, posted at 30.04.14 17:00:06 by Another Nick Reply

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  • Um…. all this talk about Frans. Am I the only one who noticed just how poor his play was last week? I didn’t think it was possible for a 5-test veteran to make quite so many basic errors on defence. And the aimless, ill-executed kicks every time the ball came anywhere near him? Ag nee man!

  • Comment 22, posted at 30.04.14 17:12:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • Must win against the rebels. We are 50/50 against brumbies highly unlikely against saders and blues are undefeated at home this year…

  • Comment 23, posted at 30.04.14 17:15:58 by The Quirk Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 22) :
    A 5 test veteran? Has he played so many? :shock:

  • Comment 24, posted at 30.04.14 17:34:09 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 22) : …..he was no more and no less crap than the other 14 imitators on that field.

    Memory of his game last Friday should be flushed away with the memories of all the other players’ performances last Friday.

  • Comment 25, posted at 30.04.14 17:34:28 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 24) : Such an eye for detail :lol:

  • Comment 26, posted at 30.04.14 17:36:46 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Frans Steyn has neither the temperament or the talent to play in the 10 channel.

    Just because somebody can kick a 60m drop goal doesnt make them a flyhalf!

    Dont get me wrong – the man had mad skills. Just not at flyhalf.
    But then he’s big, and that’s all that counts in Jake’s book.

  • Comment 27, posted at 30.04.14 17:42:30 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 25) :

    Oh thats just horseshit.
    When your backs look as disorganised as yours did over the weekend, then it starts at your flyhalf.

  • Comment 28, posted at 30.04.14 17:44:09 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @tigershark (Comment 20) : @The Quirk (Comment 23) :

    That scenario would be an implosion of note.

    Sad day for SA rugby. Exile for White, Smit and Frans Steyn.

    The only silver lining would be the Bulls taking the SA conference. Again!

    But I’m not rooting for it. ;-)

  • Comment 29, posted at 30.04.14 17:45:45 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 28) : So that would make Swiel the problem then.

  • Comment 30, posted at 30.04.14 17:48:47 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 28) : @Dancing Bear (Comment 30) : Ja, I thought Swiel would be the obvious answer. ;-)

    But there’ll always be those who blame Steyn at all costs. :roll:

  • Comment 31, posted at 30.04.14 18:16:37 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Not sure what the point of naming any scapegoats, it was a [email protected] team performance, simple as that. Everyone involved from the coaching staff to the players to the medical staff were all [email protected] It happens to the best of teams sometimes. They will come right on this tour. :cool:

  • Comment 32, posted at 30.04.14 18:21:20 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • For me the team is spot on, some forget that both times Steyn played 10 this year he was supurb, yes he was not great lasting weekend, but nor was the whole team.

    Fred will be good offthe bench, and Heimer has had some good plays when he came on.

  • Comment 33, posted at 30.04.14 18:28:56 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • You read it he first, Steyn mom this weekend :lol:

  • Comment 34, posted at 30.04.14 18:30:34 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • I think it’s fair enough to say it was a crap team performance, but I will always apportion more blame to the experienced seniors in such a situation.

    To my mind, it’s a worse sin for 50-tester Frans Steyn to have a crap game than it is for 20-year-old Tim Swiel in his second start in senior rugby.

    The guys who disappointed me most on Friday night were those seniors from whom we expected more – Alberts, Daniel, McLeod, Steyn and Pietersen.

  • Comment 35, posted at 30.04.14 18:32:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • I will now go with a Sharks win on SB, Sharks by 8

  • Comment 36, posted at 30.04.14 18:34:36 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • I hear you Robbo, remember Steyn is also allowed a poor match now and then, he hs ben very good in all the other matches, not so?

    Swiel will get better as he grows as a player.

  • Comment 37, posted at 30.04.14 18:43:57 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Alberts at flank then loose forward, and now flank again of course he will also have a bad game now and then, losing Bissy was also huge

  • Comment 38, posted at 30.04.14 18:45:17 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 37) : no just not that no player can have a off week the Sharks Super rugby chances will disappear if that happens!!!! ;-P

  • Comment 39, posted at 30.04.14 19:01:34 by JD Reply
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  • Im surprised but happy to see Reinach and Fred on the bench (didnt think it would happen so soon),
    Frans at 10, dont think he is a play maker, dont seem to think, like Rob pointed out the aimless, ill-executed kicking.
    seems like the 1st thing that comes to mind is “kom ek kyk hoe hard ek die bal kan skop”, but im happy he is there lets hope hes on form and in tune on Friday, we need a big game from everyone.

  • Comment 40, posted at 30.04.14 22:18:58 by pierre_mackie Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 31) : @Dancing Bear (Comment 30) : @VinChainSaw (Comment 28) : let’s put it this way:TS record is played twice at 10,Sharks record;Two nightmare games,coincidenc?

  • Comment 41, posted at 30.04.14 23:59:38 by benji Reply
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  • if this team can’t put 12 points over the rebels, i will be seriously worried.

  • Comment 42, posted at 01.05.14 00:41:05 by Gerhardt Reply

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  • Rebels team to face the Sharks:

    1. Cruze Ah-Nau*,2. Shota Horie,3. Laurie Weeks,4. Cadeyrn Neville,5. Luke Jones,6. Colby Fainga’a,7. Scott Fuglistaller,8. Scott Higginbotham (C),9. Luke Burgess,10. Bryce Hegarty,11. Tom English,12. Mitch Inman ,13. Tamati Ellison,14. Male Sau,15. Jason Woodward

    Replacements : 16. Pat Leafa,17. Max Lahiff,18. Paul Alo-Emilie,19. Hugh Pyle,20. Sean McMahon,21. Nic Stirzaker,22. Tom Kingston,23. Angus Roberts

    Sharks with 15 points + bonus point

  • Comment 43, posted at 01.05.14 02:14:49 by Windgat101 Reply

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  • @benji (Comment 41) : Nope, he only started one game at 10…getting MOTM for it. ;-)

    We lost to the bulls with Swiel and we lost to the Landers with Swiel. Steyn moved there later in the game. ;-)

    We beat the Lions, where Fred went off in the 10th (thereabouts) minute, and Steyn replaced him. ;-)

    As I said, those that want to blame Steyn, will find a reason to, even when there’s no facts backing it up. :roll:

  • Comment 44, posted at 01.05.14 05:01:28 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 44) : Reread Benji’s post; the criticism was aimed at Tim, not Frans.

    Geez, can’t believe I’m defending Benji…! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 45, posted at 01.05.14 07:45:45 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Gerhardt (Comment 42) : The Rebels will be no pushovers at home. They knocked over the Brumbies and Force in Melbourne, and came within 6 of the Crusaders.

    I would be very happy with a 1 point win there.

  • Comment 46, posted at 01.05.14 08:59:50 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Is it old news that Steyn is going to Japan?

  • Comment 47, posted at 01.05.14 09:28:25 by Honey Badger Reply

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  • @Honey Badger (Comment 47) : Where did you see that? Cant find anything on it. Most say that would shock me, after all the money that was spent bringing him back to the sharks.

  • Comment 48, posted at 01.05.14 09:34:49 by Seth101 Reply
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  • For those of you that are having a go at me re Frans Steyn – try reading my post again.

    I’m a big fan, i think he’s a great player.

    BUT he’s not a flyhalf.

  • Comment 49, posted at 01.05.14 10:15:33 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 49) :
    I think the point they are making is that Steyn was at 12 for the large majority of the game – Swiel was our 10.

    I rate the kid – he just needs more experience.

  • Comment 50, posted at 01.05.14 10:26:21 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Honey Badger (Comment 47) : Frans was awarded a 2 year Springbok contract. Pretty sure that means he is staying put for a while.

  • Comment 51, posted at 01.05.14 10:34:46 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 50) :

    Yeah he went off in the fiftieth minute.
    And i didnt feel moving Steyn to FH did the Sharks any good – he might’ve made slightly less mistakes than Swiel, but the backline looked sluggish with him in the pivot.

    Again – no issue with Steyn – so long as he stays at 12. Or 15. Or anywhere except 10.
    He’s been tried at FH so many times and almost always been found wanting.

  • Comment 52, posted at 01.05.14 10:42:49 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 48) : The Beeld I think.

    If it’s true its disappointing.

  • Comment 53, posted at 01.05.14 11:28:47 by Honey Badger Reply

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  • @gregkaos (Comment 51) : @Honey Badger (Comment 53) : I’m sure it’s part of the Bok contract that you must play in SA, so I really hope that story is wrong.

  • Comment 54, posted at 01.05.14 16:35:41 by JD Reply
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  • @Honey Badger (Comment 47) : a rumour that’s been floating around for a while, but the Bok contract was always a sticking point.

    Steve Nell seems to have a scoop of sorts about that. I’ll do a little digging and if it checks out, will have a story on it tomorrow

  • Comment 55, posted at 01.05.14 16:51:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 55) : geez Rob I really hope tbis is just smoke from a crack pipe and not a real fire.

  • Comment 56, posted at 01.05.14 16:53:54 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 55) : Cool. :cool:

  • Comment 57, posted at 02.05.14 00:10:01 by Honey Badger Reply

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  • Bok contract means nothing anyway. Morne Steyn, Bryan Habana, FdP, Francois Louw, Jacques Fourie and Ruan Pienaar are all first on HM’s team sheet without Bok contracts. I am pretty sure Frans could get out of his contract if he wants to play overseas again.

  • Comment 58, posted at 02.05.14 09:07:39 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • If he wants to go, then go. Same goes for White. We will survive without them.

  • Comment 59, posted at 02.05.14 09:23:04 by Southern_Shark Reply
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  • @Southern_Shark (Comment 59) : We lead the Super Rugby log for the first time in history and you say we can survive without Jake White??

    What did you have with your coffee this morning?

  • Comment 60, posted at 02.05.14 09:49:09 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 60) :

    You’ve been up there for the last few years – i wouldnt necessarily give JW all the credit.
    Also, there’s this little thing called touring that still needs to be undertaken.

    Just sayin’.

  • Comment 61, posted at 02.05.14 10:27:11 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 60) : you have a very warped view of history. Maybe you need more coffee yourself :)

  • Comment 62, posted at 02.05.14 10:31:55 by robdylan Reply
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