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Three changes for Sharks


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 8 May 2014 at 08:07
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Cell C Sharks Director of rugby Jake White has mostly kept faith with the side that recorded an opening tour win over the Rebels last week, for Saturday’s top-of-the-table meeting with the Brumbies in Canberra.

An expected change at openside flank, where Keegan Daniel comes in for the injured Marcell Coetzee, is the only one to the pack (and one of just three overall). Daniel joins Jean Deysel and Ryan Kankowski in a mobile loose trio that has played as a combination many times before, although perhaps not all that often in the last two or three years.

Other changes see fit again Cobus Reinach and S’bura Sithole restored to the starting lineup. Reinach rotates into the starting scrumhalf berth to replace Charl McLeod, while Sithole comes in at outside centre, meaning a shift to the number 12 jersey for Paul Jordaan. Heimar Williams drops to the bench, where he replaces the injured Fred Zeilinga.

The other new face in the match 23 is that of Tera Mtembu, who will wear the number 20 shirt.

The Cell C Sharks

15. Lwazi Mvovo (Ricoh PMB Collegians)
14. Odwa Ndungane (Varsity College RFC)
13. S’bura Sithole (UKZN Impi)
12. Paul Jordaan (Varsity College RFC)
11. JP Pietersen (Thanda Zululand Rhinos)
10. Frans Steyn (SA Home Loans Durban Collegians)
9. Cobus Reinach (SA Home Loans Durban Collegians)
8. Ryan Kankowski (Amanzimtoti Rugby Club)
7. Jean Deysel (Marshall Security Crusaders)
6. Keegan Daniel (Jonsson College Rovers)
5. Stephan Lewies (Amanzimtoti Rugby Club)
4. Willem Alberts (SA Home Loans Durban Collegians)
3. Jannie du Plessis (Marshall Security Crusaders)
2. Bismarck du Plessis (Captain) (Marshall Security Crusaders)
1. Tendai Mtawarira (Jonsson College Rovers)

Replacements
16. Kyle Cooper (Jonsson College Rovers)
17. Dale Chadwick (Ricoh PMB Collegians)
18. Lourens Adriaanse (Amanzimtoti Rugby Club)
19. Etienne Oosthuizen (UKZN Impi)
20. Tera Mtembu (Amanzimtoti Rugby Club)
21. Charl McLeod (Varsity College RFC)
22. Heimar Williams (SA Home Loans Durban Collegians)
23. SP Marais (Marshall Security Crusaders)



68 Comments

  • There is some serious gas in that backline

  • Comment 1, posted at 08.05.14 08:12:57 by KingRiaan Reply
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  • Who is cover for 10?

  • Comment 2, posted at 08.05.14 08:28:15 by bokbok Reply
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  • Yeah, all things considered, that’s a good side.

    Would maybe like to see SP at 15 with Mvovo back at 14.

    Who plays 10 if Frans goes down?

  • Comment 3, posted at 08.05.14 08:29:44 by John Galt Reply
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  • @bokbok (Comment 2) : @John Galt (Comment 3) : Jordaan? :???:

  • Comment 4, posted at 08.05.14 08:31:41 by Another Nick Reply
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  • @bokbok (Comment 2) : Probably Jordaan or SP

  • Comment 5, posted at 08.05.14 08:32:46 by woody Reply
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  • :mrgreen: This must be the fastest back 5 that the Sharks have ever put out and possibly the fastest centre combination in the world!!

  • Comment 6, posted at 08.05.14 08:37:36 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 1) : @ChrisS (Comment 6) : I’ve read that a few times this year and whenever its been said they have failed to make that pace count. Lets hope this time will be different.

  • Comment 7, posted at 08.05.14 08:43:05 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Disappointed about Fred Zeilinga. Hope this combo puts the tries in.

  • Comment 8, posted at 08.05.14 08:44:44 by Caratacus Reply

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  • @John Galt (Comment 3) :
    Why in the world would you move Mvovo from 15 considering what he’s done so far?

  • Comment 9, posted at 08.05.14 08:46:57 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 7) : Sad but true…

  • Comment 10, posted at 08.05.14 08:47:18 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @ChrisS (Comment 6) : Just hope Jordaan is more interested in putting his center partner into the gap, rather than doing it all himself.

    It could be magic, or a serious crash ball implosion.

    This year, it seems we get to be excited about every injury enforced tweak and change. Each player opens new game breaking possibilities, as apposed to just being temporary stopgap solutions.

  • Comment 11, posted at 08.05.14 08:49:09 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • This is not a bad team but I would have preferred Heimar at 12 and Swiel on the bench to cover fly half.

  • Comment 12, posted at 08.05.14 09:34:45 by JD Reply
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  • I hope the guys he has selected are all fully fit cos if we lose 1 or 2, esp Steyn we will be in huge shite! JW has gone for a speedy side but unless the forwards get them the ball its all for nothing. I would have played SP over Ndungane and given Adriaanse a run-but other than that its a good side. I wonder if Adriaanse’s lack of game time has forced him out of Bok contention. If so he will be on his bike soon

  • Comment 13, posted at 08.05.14 09:41:11 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 11) : what worries me about Jordaan at 12 is the defence. It’s a big game to try such a bold move, just hope it works.

  • Comment 14, posted at 08.05.14 09:41:22 by JD Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 7) : @FireTheLooser (Comment 11) : True and true! I hope that we use our pace to create holes and run for spaces instead of faces!

  • Comment 15, posted at 08.05.14 09:42:23 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 13) : The whole point of getting him to the Sharks was to promote his Bok aspirations and to give Jannie some rest.

    So far we haven’t rotated them at all and we’ve managed to chase Wiehan Herbst (who should have been a Bok by now!!!) to Ireland!

  • Comment 16, posted at 08.05.14 09:45:25 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 13) : Yes Jannie and Beast must be rested soon and Adriaanse and Dale really deserves a start after spme solid performances, but don’t think SP must start ahead of Odwa. The “old man” has shown his class more than once this year and deserves his starting spot.

  • Comment 17, posted at 08.05.14 09:46:37 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 12) : Apparently Swiel is not familiar with Alphaville, and as a result has fallen from grace… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 18, posted at 08.05.14 09:54:30 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Seriously fast backline, and with Kanko and Daniel on the field as well we,ve got some serious speed. Now the forwards must just dominate and we’ll klap them. If they rumble us up front it’ll turn onto a nightmare of a game.

  • Comment 19, posted at 08.05.14 09:54:37 by PTAShark Reply
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  • @PTAShark (Comment 19) : Kanko and Daniel must focus on securing good ball for us and not just on running or we’ll get turned over a lot!

  • Comment 20, posted at 08.05.14 09:55:48 by ChrisS Reply
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  • SP had a very good game against the Rebels.

  • Comment 21, posted at 08.05.14 10:03:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 18) : To quote Jake on that decision: “Swiel won’t be forever young, we expect big advancements in his music appreciation and soon…”

  • Comment 22, posted at 08.05.14 10:21:57 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 22) : Come to think of it, it is probably better to separate rugby and music. The Sharks brought out a compilation album of player favourites several years ago and… um… if you can’t say anything nice, rather say nothing at all

  • Comment 23, posted at 08.05.14 10:34:31 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @ChrisS (Comment 16) : @JD (Comment 17) : Our front row off the bench has been good all year so cant understand why they havnt been given a start or more game time. Adriaanse is a good player but he has Bok aspirations which wont be realised if he continues to catch splinters. The reason i say SP over Odwa is that on tour I would prefer the cool ,calm head of Odwa in the 2nd half than the all guns blazing SP at the end when the game is possibly tight.

  • Comment 24, posted at 08.05.14 10:39:00 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 23) : I assume it’s not on repeat in the Culling Song household? :grin:

    Thankfully, dodgy taste in music in not unique to the Sharks :mrgreen:

  • Comment 25, posted at 08.05.14 10:44:50 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 25) : Courtesy of my five year old daughter, the only things on repeat in my household are The Beatles, Tom Waits and especially Mr. Cat & the Jackal. The rest has to be listened to on earphones or during the drive to- and from work. Kids!

  • Comment 26, posted at 08.05.14 11:19:08 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 9) :
    My issue is more to do with Ndungane. Odwa has been great on D this season but I think SP at 15 and Mvovo and JP on the wing would be absolutely lethal.
    That back 3, in my little opinion, just offers so much more in attack without giving much away in defence.

  • Comment 27, posted at 08.05.14 11:21:21 by John Galt Reply

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  • Jordaan at 12 – interesting selection.

    We going to need the defense to tighten up for this game. Unlike the Rebels the Brumbies have the players to punish you if they take a gap.

  • Comment 28, posted at 08.05.14 11:24:41 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • I like this team. Jordaan has played flyhalf and I believe SP has played there too, but here’s to hoping Steyn doesn’t go down injured in the first few minutes.

  • Comment 29, posted at 08.05.14 11:34:21 by Letgo Reply
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  • If this team had to go down against BB i will be very concerned. They should forget about the ex relationship and focus on a 4 try game

  • Comment 30, posted at 08.05.14 11:40:24 by Gerhardt Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 1) : Which is only relevant if it actually gets used. Kicking it away, then you may as well have 5 behemoths manning the back 5!

  • Comment 31, posted at 08.05.14 12:17:57 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • I love all the comments. Sadly I have no time to say much but I echo what most of you have to say. Hope Steyn lasts – my big wish!

    GO SHARKS!!!!!

  • Comment 32, posted at 08.05.14 12:23:10 by [email protected] Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 31) : Agreed!

  • Comment 33, posted at 08.05.14 12:24:35 by Pokkel Reply
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  • SP….must really go back to the Kings, do not rate him at all, always running round like a headless chickken. Rather take a chance with Mvovo, was very good since moving to 15 and makes a decision quick and goes with it. SP and Kirchner same player, kick and chase…..no leave him on the bench.

    Let’s see if we look like contenders, this Saturday.

  • Comment 34, posted at 08.05.14 13:27:07 by Lieplapper Reply

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  • Jannie is probably gonna ref the game on Saturday, seeing that is more interested in arguing with the ref and back chatting the ref. Hope Lourens gets a chance soon…….and stays there.

  • Comment 35, posted at 08.05.14 13:29:39 by Lieplapper Reply

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  • @Lieplapper (Comment 34) :

    SP hasn’t been at his best this year, but I don’t think you can blame it on the player alone. My biggest criticism of him, since playing for the Sharks, has been his kicking. His clearing is very short at times and also not very accurate.

    That’s one thing that has been a big surprise about Mvovo for me. His clearing and kicking is more efficient.

    Both players have their positives on attack. Mvovo runs at the line looking for weaknesses, hoping to break a tackle – usually stays on his feet and is able to make phase ball available to the team. SP is more unpredictable, confuses opposition and often opens up space to put players into gaps, but he will have to improve just his basic kicking skills, imho, if he wants to push Mvovo out of that 15 jersey.

  • Comment 36, posted at 08.05.14 13:43:25 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 36) :

    Very fair comments, still think SP is indecisive and gets caught behind the gain line though, but you make a valid point about his kicking.

    When he played for the Kings he was fearless, decisive and a absolute handful to defend against, now he is indecisive, without a plan, sometimes looks scared to take contact and would rather put up the high ball and chase because that’s the safe option. Maybe arrogance is playing a part since moving to us because he feels that he has arrrived, I don’t know.
    You should have been a defense lawyer………. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 37, posted at 08.05.14 13:55:20 by Lieplapper Reply

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  • @Lieplapper (Comment 37) :

    I put it to you … :mrgreen:

    I think his indecisiveness is partly also due to trying to fit his game into a new game style. I think with the Kings the players felt more free to express – it was a nothing to lose environment.

    SP was good for us in the CC. His attacking skills was a threat to opposition defenses and I don’t think JW benched him because of his indecisiveness on attack or lets say perceived indecisiveness on attack. I really think it is because his kicking in general is sub standard for a fullback.

    Jesse Mogg is one of the best kicking fullbacks in SS, he also has developed into quite a threat on the counter attack, but that came with confidence. My belief is still that he was selected by White for his kicking.

    Mvovo is a better kicker and better defender than SP. He still struggles to link up with his players, something SP, when he’s not kicking (and and JW’s coaching that’s not often), is always looking to do and often manages to achieve.

    Have a look at the Rebels game, SP got a good 30 min or so in the second half and most of our attacks from the back had SP as a link man to a good move.

  • Comment 38, posted at 08.05.14 14:12:08 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 18) : LOL he does not have to be big in Japan he only needs to be good on tour.

  • Comment 39, posted at 08.05.14 14:13:38 by JD Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 26) : still better than Barney’s biggest hits and I’m not referring to JS I’m talking about the purple dinosaur.

  • Comment 40, posted at 08.05.14 14:20:51 by JD Reply
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  • @Lieplapper (Comment 35) : must say he’s been way better the last few games.

  • Comment 41, posted at 08.05.14 14:29:25 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 40) : I actually have no reason to complain beyond having to explain to her teacher where some of the lyrics she sings in class originates from…

  • Comment 42, posted at 08.05.14 14:32:41 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 42) : ja that could be difficult. Still could be worse, my niece teaches preschoolers and some of them sings a bit of Jack Parow.

  • Comment 43, posted at 08.05.14 14:41:25 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 43) : Ouch!

  • Comment 44, posted at 08.05.14 14:50:01 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Who’s gonna kick for poles if Steyn goes off?? :| Yas we better hold thumbs hey.

  • Comment 45, posted at 08.05.14 15:20:29 by uShaka Reply

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  • @uShaka (Comment 45) :
    Probably Jannie the male nurse, so he can argue and swear at the ref if he misses.

  • Comment 46, posted at 08.05.14 15:33:19 by Lieplapper Reply

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  • @Lieplapper (Comment 46) : Ek sien Jannie is nie jou favourite nie?

  • Comment 47, posted at 08.05.14 15:34:55 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 47) :
    I think you’ll find that Jannie is getting on a lot of peoples tits at the moment.

  • Comment 48, posted at 08.05.14 15:46:09 by John Galt Reply

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  • I have to say that Stephan Lewies’ interview earlier in the week certainly reinvigorated my belief that the Sharks are just one game away from running the opposition ragged, he eluded to an undisclosed mandate to give the pill some serious air whenever deemed fit. The selection of Paul at 12 and the massive risk of going into this game with only one recognised fly-half undoubtedly backs this notion up. Unforced errors have all but crippled our attacking momentum thus far and one cannot help but think that there’s just way too much talent here for the law of averages not to give in! JW won’t settle for anything less than a dominant perfomance at Canberra, it can be done and I’m sure JW would have voiced that to the boys.

  • Comment 49, posted at 08.05.14 16:22:20 by uShaka Reply

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  • @Lieplapper (Comment 46) : Lol! He seems to have settled down a bit though of late.

  • Comment 50, posted at 08.05.14 16:45:55 by uShaka Reply

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  • So I see a lot of comments regarding Janinie and Lourens, did anyone watch beasts dismal display last week. All and all he’s had two good games this ENTIRE superrugby season. Not good enough. Stats proved that he made 5 tackles in 71 minutes compared to Chadwick who made 4 in 9…

  • Comment 51, posted at 08.05.14 17:19:05 by truthbetold Reply

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  • @Lieplapper (Comment 46) : @John Galt (Comment 48) : @uShaka (Comment 50) : yes Jannie has been very quiet the last couple of games, think maybe he was told to be quite and just play the game.

  • Comment 52, posted at 08.05.14 20:39:59 by JD Reply
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  • To the Jannie haters, who the f is Janinie, and the Beast haters please learn the game and then make comments. The front row has been solid every game, the support in the linouts and kick offs has been great. Now lets move over to the extras a front rank may be expected to offer. Jannie has been good, if not great and strong in the tight loose but not the gazelle around the field. If he was he would be playing open side flanker. To be honest apart from the one game he has kept his mouth shut more often. There I though over exaggeration was a woman with pms thing. Beast is not in the side to build up tackle stats, if he was he he would be wearing No. 6, 7 or 8 on his back, he is a prop and has done the prop work well, I noticed the haters didn’t comment on meters gained. There is also a clear difference between the tactics of the player starting the game and someone coming on as sub. Also the match may be in a completely different phase at that time i.e. primarily defensive or offensive etc depending on the score and the coaches instructions. To compare stats from different phases of the game is verging on idiotic. It is very nice to have the opportunity to voice our opinions like this just be careful you don’t come across clueless. I do believe there is a Kadashian show on some channel on TV that might be more up your alley.

  • Comment 53, posted at 08.05.14 20:40:54 by markp Reply

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  • @truthbetold (Comment 51) : yes both Jannie and Beast needs a rest, Dale has been good playing of the bench and deserves a start.

  • Comment 54, posted at 08.05.14 20:41:41 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 54) : Quite right both need a rest, the problem is coming off the bench a rest? A rest really is out of the match 23 completely. It is rare a front rank does not have to come off the bench in any game. I think that loss to the Highlands changed plans a bit and we have to secure more points on the away leg which means a change in who rests when.

  • Comment 55, posted at 08.05.14 20:47:58 by markp Reply

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  • @markp (Comment 55) : yes it’s not ideal but having only Thomas as backup on tour neither of them can really be rested completely. Having them “resting” on the bench for an hour befors playing the last 20 odd min would be better than no rest at all.

  • Comment 56, posted at 08.05.14 20:56:22 by JD Reply
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  • Funny how you can feel the 8 day turnaround as a fan. Saturday taking ages to come.

  • Comment 57, posted at 08.05.14 21:39:13 by uShaka Reply

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  • @uShaka (Comment 57) : yes feels like ages and today I heard my daughter is playing hockey at the same time so I’m going the miss most if not all of the game.

  • Comment 58, posted at 08.05.14 21:48:07 by JD Reply
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  • Last time I checked this was a rugby blog for fans with opinions… Not a place for hating or belittling, simply an open forum to ALL sharks fans (kardashian watching or not) to voice their feeling about the sharks

  • Comment 59, posted at 08.05.14 22:33:39 by truthbetold Reply

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  • @markp (Comment 53) : unnecessarily personal. Please treat other posters with respect

  • Comment 60, posted at 08.05.14 22:55:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • @markp my reasoning is simple for pointing out both tackle stats AND the time… One gets the feeling of a general malaise from certain players outside the scrum which one never picked up in previous years from this particular front row

  • Comment 61, posted at 08.05.14 22:57:10 by truthbetold Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 60) : guys are really fighting fit today.

  • Comment 62, posted at 08.05.14 23:01:58 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 58) : its called a drifta,get one solves a lot of the Friday morning game problems

  • Comment 63, posted at 09.05.14 07:03:00 by benji Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 63) : wanted to get one but my boss (a.k.a my wife) said something about never seeing me again if I had a drifta so I could not get one.

  • Comment 64, posted at 09.05.14 07:51:25 by JD Reply
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  • @markp (Comment 53) : I dont think Jannie or the Beats have been bad at all this year, probably quite the opposite and both , the Beast especially, are looking more mobile than they have in the last 3 years. The issue with them playing week in and week out now is that come the last Super rugby or Rugby Championships games when we really need them to be firing at their best, will they have the fuel in the tank to give those performances? I have my doubts!! Hence the need for rotation even if its on the bench, it still makes a difference as well as allowing the next guys in line to step up and produce the goods

  • Comment 65, posted at 09.05.14 08:03:46 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Lieplapper (Comment 34) : @Letgo (Comment 38) : Mvovo has been playing well yes, but so did SP before he was moved to the bench for some reason.

    I wouldnt agree that Mvovo is a better kicker then SP, both players have the ability to break a line, Mvovo has strength and speed, SP also quick and ball skills when he has his confidence back

  • Comment 66, posted at 09.05.14 09:09:15 by pierre_mackie Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 64) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 67, posted at 09.05.14 09:54:27 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @pierre_mackie (Comment 66) :

    Okay, my opinion is still that SP’s kicking needs work. And I like SP, I liked him since I first saw him at the Kings, I thought he had some Dagg qualities to him, but I really feel like he needs to work on the distance and accuracy of his kicking – especially that aspect of his play concerned me. The rest, I feel, was a bit up and down since the start of Super Rugby, but I would have been happy to see him continue at 15 if his kicking was better.

    Btw it looks like JW has used him more and more in the last couple of games and he has looked good of the bench. He is not out of it completely yet, but I think Jake wants room for Odwa, Mvovo and JPP and that automatically shifts SP to the bench.

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