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Boks named for World XV clash


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 4 Jun 2014 at 12:41
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Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer has named a strong side to take on Nick Mallett’s World XV in Cape Town this weekend, with former Sevens player Cornal Hendricks the only uncapped player in the Bok match 23.

Meyer has opted to shift Sharks winger JP Pietersen to outside centre, due to a dearth of options in the position, creating space for Hendricks to start at right wing. Willie le Roux and Bryan Habana comprise the balance of an experienced back three, while Frans Steyn will make his first Springbok appearance in some time as he starts in the number 12 jersey.

Morne Steyn and Ruan Pienaar form an experienced and familiar halfback combination, with the selection of Fourie du Preez on the bench, rather than in the starting side, perhaps a little surprising.

Up front, the Boks do not want for experience either and have picked established combinations in all three rows of the pack. Sharks boys Beast Mtawarira, Bismarck du Plessis and Jannie du Plessis will pack down in the front row, with the old firm of Bakkies Botha and captain Victor Matfield reunited in the second. Francois Louw, Willem Alberts and Duane Vermeulen know each other well, having played as a loose forward combination for the bulk of the 2013 test season.

On the bench, there are recalls for Johan Goosen, Lwazi Mvovo, Schalk Brits and Schalk Burger.

South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Cornal Hendricks, 13 JP Pietersen, 12 Frans Steyn, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morne Steyn, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Victor Matfield (capt), 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis (v/capt), 1 Tendai Mtawarira
Subs: 16 Schalk Brits, 17 Gurthro Steenkamp, 18 Coenie Oosthuizen, 19 Flip van der Merwe, 20 Schalk Burger, 21 Fourie du Preez, 22 Johan Goosen, 23 Lwazi Mvovo



93 Comments

  • Yawn!! Now was the match where could have exposed some others to the Boks and see how they cope.

  • Comment 1, posted at 04.06.14 12:44:57 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • Cornal Hendricks ahead of Lwazi Mvovo! And people ask why so many dont give a shit anymore…

  • Comment 2, posted at 04.06.14 12:49:16 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • :roll: :roll: :roll:

  • Comment 3, posted at 04.06.14 12:50:41 by JarsonX Reply
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  • The starting pack I have no complaints with.

    Ruan ahead of FdP at 9 a surprise. I though Hougaard was not too bad for the Bulls towards the end of the season.

    JPP at 13 (having last played 13 for a couple of matches for the Sharks in 2013 with mixed results)??

    Hendricks ahead of Mvovo??

    Coenie as tighthead, Guthro on the bench??

    At least he did not slip Zane in ahead of Willie

  • Comment 4, posted at 04.06.14 13:00:52 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Im not sure what to make of this selection to be honest. Im not totally upset nor totally happy. No Serfontein in the 23 interesting. The bench props worry me a lot. Especially as Brits not the best scrumming hooker. Besides Brits the forward replacements are all slow…not great for 2nd half replacements when game is a bit open. All the guys selected are solid players even Hendricks. Will be interesting to see how they all fall into the Bok gameplan against an unpredictable side.

  • Comment 5, posted at 04.06.14 13:06:43 by SheldonK Reply

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  • After the shit that was dished up on Saturday, no Shark would have made it into the match 23 if I was HM.

    Tell them to piss off and get their big heads out the clouds…..

  • Comment 6, posted at 04.06.14 13:13:09 by Lieplapper Reply

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  • What a pathetic Bok side that is……what an insult to the supporters……Meyer has completely lost the plot……I trust the players will be bringing their wheelchairs with them to the game?

  • Comment 7, posted at 04.06.14 13:26:26 by Saffex Reply

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  • About what I expected, except Hendricks starting before Mvovo.

  • Comment 8, posted at 04.06.14 13:27:28 by PTAShark Reply
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  • Rob, Fourie is listed on the bench as well as in the starting line-up.

    Would have like to see Steyn given a rest. This would have been the ideal match to give Serfontein a little more experience. A back three of Hendricks, le Roux and Mvovo sounds pretty exciting. Hope Lwazi doesn’t just get the last five minutes.

  • Comment 9, posted at 04.06.14 13:30:51 by vanmartin Reply
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  • I’m going to be supporting the World XV. These selections are rubbish and I especially want Rory to show Heyneke what he’s missing out on

  • Comment 10, posted at 04.06.14 13:33:37 by woody Reply
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  • So we have been struggling to get a qaulity back-up in the 14 jersey without moving Willie around which I think must stop now, its encouraging to see HM has lost faith in JJ(13)hence thought of trying De Allende and now JP. He also sees Lwazi as a better bet for 15 ahead of niknaks.

    The Coenie experiment is a big worry and I can’t see why Guthro is back after his kak performances last year? who will cover 12 if Steyn went off in the 1st half?

  • Comment 11, posted at 04.06.14 13:35:32 by Chippa Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 9) : I could have sworn Ruan was shown as starting 9 a few minutes ago.

  • Comment 12, posted at 04.06.14 13:41:40 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Ai tog, HM is trying really hard to lose the support of the rugby public. First he/the bok management team moan that Frans Steyn has knee problems but then proceeds to select him, what was all that noise about last week then?

    JPP at 13 and no Serfontein or Sithole, not even in the matchday squad are real head scratchers. Surely this was an opportunity to see what a Serfontein/Sithole combination would have looked like.

    The World XV backline is the real deal, that’s definitely going to be a strength for them and the HM picks Pienaar at 9 and Steyn who has had limited gametime this season at Stade Francais at 10 and an out of position winger at centre. Eish it’s going to be a long day for that backline.

  • Comment 13, posted at 04.06.14 13:44:33 by Jacques Venter Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 12) : Ruan is the starting 9, just a typo by the author. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 14, posted at 04.06.14 13:46:35 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 12) : It should be Ruan. At least from the list I’ve seen.

    Interesting to see Hendricks starting. Haven’t seen much of him admittedly. Happy that Mvovo is in the 23. As for Ruan starting, well I’ve got no problem with that. Means we’ll have a captain on the field should Vic and Bissie get subbed. Also suspect HM is very interested in seeing Goosen + FdP as a halfback combination. Ruan and Morne can also use more time as a combination, as I felt they lacked a bit of synergy last year.

  • Comment 15, posted at 04.06.14 13:49:48 by gregkaos Reply
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  • I have to say Ruan is not my favorite scrummy at the moment – way too ponderous behind the rucks.

  • Comment 16, posted at 04.06.14 13:55:58 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • It is like I walked into 2006…

    Only difference is, back then it was Bulls supporters who had Heyneke Meyer as coach crucifying Jake White, the National coach.

    It is kak funny.

  • Comment 17, posted at 04.06.14 14:16:20 by Morné Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 16) : Agreed but I think Meyer is probably sticking with him because of the World Cup being played in England. Still, he needs to seriously amp up his game.

  • Comment 18, posted at 04.06.14 14:16:45 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 17) : :lol: :lol: It is like I said in a few tweets.

    J SMit and Percy have been recalled along with D Rossouw and J Fourie. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 19, posted at 04.06.14 14:17:35 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 17) : The circle of life :grin:

  • Comment 20, posted at 04.06.14 14:20:03 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 17) : I would not say Heyneke has a preference for Bulls – he has a preference for players who played in the 2007 Super rugby final :lol:

  • Comment 21, posted at 04.06.14 14:25:39 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • I think Gurthro is at the last chance saloon. I have no idea how his form is, but given the fact that JJ lost his spot to bad form, props waiting in line would not have to wait for too long, I feel.

    Pienaar doesn’t belong there, and JP’s centre move is refreshing. Would not have predicted this, but I like it.

    I still think he should play either Alberts or Vermeulen with one on the bench, maybe starting with Coetzee/Burger.

  • Comment 22, posted at 04.06.14 14:30:33 by Blue Centurion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 21) : :lol:

  • Comment 23, posted at 04.06.14 14:37:23 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Only 2 players currently in the Bulls setup,
    7 Sharks, 2 Stormers, 4 Cheetahs and 8 overseas players.

  • Comment 24, posted at 04.06.14 14:45:40 by Blue Centurion Reply

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  • So of the remaining players…what would say a Springbok B side look like then? 15. Z Kirchner 14. JJ Engelbrecht 13. J De Jong. 12. Serfontein 11. Mvov 10. M Boschoff 9. Hougaard 8. Kolisi 7. Mahoje 6. Coetzee 5. L De Jager 4. Flip VD Merwe 3. Coenie 2. Visagie 1. Gurthro Just off the top of my head

  • Comment 25, posted at 04.06.14 14:49:13 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Would probably give the main team a snot klap :mrgreen: :lol:

  • Comment 26, posted at 04.06.14 14:52:49 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Now to get this team of mine on the correct thread :oops: :

    The Bok team I was looking forward to at the start of the year: 4-Etzebeth, 5-PSdT, 8-Arno(I might actually make him my future Captain), 9-Kockott (never gonna happen), 10-Lambie, 11-Willie, 12-Serfontein/de Allende, 13-Jordaan/(now Sithole), 15-Steyn

    And Kyle Cooper on the Bench ;-)

  • Comment 27, posted at 04.06.14 14:55:21 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 27) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 28, posted at 04.06.14 14:56:43 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Blue Centurion (Comment 24) : Clear evidence for Blue Bulls bias right there!

  • Comment 29, posted at 04.06.14 15:15:14 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 27) : Not a bad team at all…Dont rate Arno Botha though…just another stock standard SA loosie. he will be nullified!!! Prefer a Carr, Keegan, ‘Old Kanko’, Brussow…smart players

  • Comment 30, posted at 04.06.14 15:15:26 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 30) : I was actually looking forward to seeing Kanko this year, I won’t be looking forward to it next year.

    Keegan will always be a favorite of mine, but he is ahead of his time here in SA, same as Whitely.

    Realistically speaking, in SA terms and SA-run-frough-or-over-him style, Arno will be the best future prospect at 8.

  • Comment 31, posted at 04.06.14 15:37:30 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Only things i’m looking forward to see in this game is Mallet’s tactics against HM, and Rory and Burden proving they should be in the team. This is one of the most boring looking Bok teams I have seen in a while. Hopefully Willie will at least be awake. The wingers can pull their lazy boys on the field as they probably won’t get to see much ball with both Du Preez and Steyn there.

  • Comment 32, posted at 04.06.14 16:03:18 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 30) : Terra! A new breed of South African loosies will hopefully emerge after this boring HM era. An era that I don’t classify as good or bad, just plain boring. At least ol’ Snorre used to give us some classic quotes.

  • Comment 33, posted at 04.06.14 16:05:38 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 31) : I dont this this Japanese double dating is doing any of the players any good. JPP is also a shadow of what he was and I think very lucky to have made the Bok team.

  • Comment 34, posted at 04.06.14 16:15:57 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 34) : I dont “like” this Japanese double dating.

  • Comment 35, posted at 04.06.14 16:46:46 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • So, of the three outside centres in the squad, all of whom have playing in that position all season long, none are deemed good enough for a friendly?

    Also, given our game plan – which involves kicking the ball to the opposition and hoping they make a mistake – I would rather see Frans Steyn at flyhalf. At least when they run it back, our midfield channel will have three 100kg + defenders, instead of revolving door Morne.

    Marcel Coetzee also deserves an extended run. We all know what Flo has to offer. Marcel is 10 x the openside flanker he was 2 years ago….

    Can’t wait for the post HM bok era. A back three of Free Willie, JJ and Hendricks, De Allende or Serfontein alongside Sbura or De Jongh, with Pollard and Reinach at halfback. 2016 can’t come soon enough.

  • Comment 36, posted at 04.06.14 16:59:26 by Mpandla Reply

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  • Go World XV! Hope Mallett humiliates our joker of a coach. I will be at the Wales game, and will be wearing red!

  • Comment 37, posted at 04.06.14 17:18:44 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Wonder what’s the average age of this Bok team?!?!?!

  • Comment 38, posted at 04.06.14 17:29:20 by JD Reply
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  • You guys should read Brendan Venters latest article on supersport.

  • Comment 39, posted at 04.06.14 18:40:45 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 38) :

    The World XV is comprised mostly of retired internationals and I imagine its still a younger side than the Boks.

    WTF is the point of this side? Its not even a real test.

  • Comment 40, posted at 04.06.14 18:44:47 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 39) : interesting, let’s see what happens with his trusted old timers!?!?!?!?!?

  • Comment 41, posted at 04.06.14 18:46:57 by JD Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 40) : that’s my problem as well, these games was a chance to play some you youngsters like Lood with older guys to guide them and not to reunite the 2007 Bok team.

  • Comment 42, posted at 04.06.14 18:49:53 by JD Reply
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  • Wow some of these comments are beyond depressing. I just cannot fathom how people can switch allegiance to Springbok opposition to spite the coach because he didn’t pick the players they want.

    All this despite the Boks only losing to the ABs last year and having an average of 3.9 tries per game.

  • Comment 43, posted at 04.06.14 21:56:46 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @Chippa (Comment 11) : Yes, who else can play inside centre?

  • Comment 44, posted at 04.06.14 22:10:06 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 43) : I’m with you on that one…

  • Comment 45, posted at 04.06.14 22:20:04 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 44) : I think Morne Steyn will move to inside centre and Goosen to 10. But then, we all know that Fransie doesn’t come of in any game. ;-)

  • Comment 46, posted at 05.06.14 07:56:00 by bokbok Reply

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  • Every player picked is a proven international barring Hendricks of course. Yes some players may be older…but so what?? Seriously so what? An old man Toulon side wiped the floor with a younger Saracens side. Yes the Bok gameplan is kick and tackle and 1 off runners…deal with it. We are still one of the only sides to push the All Blacks every single year. So back the Boks and we can assess the players after the game

  • Comment 47, posted at 05.06.14 08:08:01 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 47) : Exactly – why do we expect the Boks to play Champagne rugby when the three most successful super franchises (Bulls, Sharks and Stormers) play in exactly the same way?

    I raise my eyebrows about some selections but on Saturday afternoon will be cheering the Boks as always.

  • Comment 48, posted at 05.06.14 08:19:34 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 43) : @SheldonK (Comment 47) :

    Good to see some sensible people still around.

  • Comment 49, posted at 05.06.14 08:22:50 by Morné Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 27) :Arno has a varied game, he is not just brawn but also has the brains and with good leadership credentials. I prefer Whitely ahead of Keegan any day.

  • Comment 50, posted at 05.06.14 08:32:51 by Chippa Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 34) : Watching the Jap players come back, it seems as though they’d have a tough time playing premier club rugby.

    If they want to play in Japan, they need to stay in Japan. Or they need to monitored by the Sharks coaching to ensure they stay on top of their game….conditioning and skills.

  • Comment 51, posted at 05.06.14 08:36:48 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • What is the case with Frans – when he is going to Japan? After the RC?

  • Comment 52, posted at 05.06.14 08:44:53 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 43) : Yeah I’d never go so far as to support the opposition, that’d be like supporting the bulls…impossible :twisted:

    Having the kiwis and ozzies rubbing our faces in a loss to the World XV or even worse, losing to Wales and heaven forbid Scotland. :shock:

    No no, back the Boks to the hilt….even though the coach is not my favorite, if we beat the AB’s, I really couldn’t care who the coach is. ;-)

    @Chippa (Comment 50) : Would have loved to see more from the guy this year, but he seems to have a good temperament…plays hard without playing dirty, much like PSdT.

    He’s the guys that should be groomed now, with a few other possible future leaders, for the captaincy.

  • Comment 53, posted at 05.06.14 08:46:12 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 51) : Is playing in Japan the problem or what they do when they come back thats the problem? Yes the SA guys look a little off the pace…but a guy like Jerome Kaino slots straight back into it playing his best after a week or two. So do we blame Japan or the SA guys work ethic when back?

  • Comment 54, posted at 05.06.14 08:58:16 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 54) : Dunno, just strange that all our guys come back undercooked.

    Best would be for the Sharks to monitor the guys while they’re over there, to ensure they come back in peak condition.

  • Comment 55, posted at 05.06.14 09:14:57 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 54) : Thats a good question. Last year Kanko came back and was clearly a yard off the pace with little hunger and Plum took a lot of flak for not selecting him. This year he came back and was in prime condition but his natural game is just not there anymore. JP seems to be in fine condition but he seems to go walkabouts during games, almost as if his mind is on some Geisha girl or so. I honestly think that JP has been very lucky to be selected into the Bok squad, never mind a starting berth, on his current form.

  • Comment 56, posted at 05.06.14 09:17:10 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 55) : I got the feeling that this time around Kanko had been kept fully in the loop as to what was expected of him when he returned to the Sharks and I also think he kept up his part of the deal while there.

  • Comment 57, posted at 05.06.14 09:30:07 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 56) : To be fair to JP with the current Sharks plan the wings do not get to see a lot of ball. Look at Mvovo – he really shined at fullback. Since he moved back to wing, you just don’t notice him as much.

  • Comment 58, posted at 05.06.14 09:34:40 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Maybe JP doesn’t want to be a wing anymore and is possibly frustrated? I read somewhere that his preferred position is outside centre, and now he is given the chance to do so. Hopefully he is better in that role now than he was last year.

  • Comment 59, posted at 05.06.14 09:38:33 by bokbok Reply

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  • @bokbok (Comment 59) :

    Yup. That is where he plays in Japan.

  • Comment 60, posted at 05.06.14 09:40:06 by Morné Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 58) : It could be, but there have been games when he has been good and involved and then others (more of these) when he seems to be somewhere else.

  • Comment 61, posted at 05.06.14 09:43:37 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @bokbok (Comment 59) : Maybe he and Sbura can swop places then, or does everybody want to be an outside centre these days.

  • Comment 62, posted at 05.06.14 09:44:50 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Morne Steyn starting must indicate that he is not first choice.
    Jpp also must be due to mining for options.

    Hendricks is a very good option with Le Roux. Makes Sence.

    My big dissapointment is that Reinach is hands down best scrum halve in super rugby at this moment. Looks like he is the next Kockett on Bok books.

    Pienaar is on Top form.

  • Comment 63, posted at 05.06.14 09:53:05 by BoerSeun Reply

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  • @BoerSeun (Comment 63) : Unfortunately I have yet to see Pienaar on top form for the Boks at 9. Hopefully he can surprise me this year.

  • Comment 64, posted at 05.06.14 10:16:34 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 64) : Yeah I’m hoping to see his current form for Ulster work for the Boks. He has been ridiculously good for them in the few games I’ve watched.

  • Comment 65, posted at 05.06.14 10:41:15 by gregkaos Reply
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  • Hi sorry I’m new here I just thought could some one tell me…. When heyneke selects his world cup squad how many players may he select I heard it was 30??? Is that still the same since the added prop/ 8 man bench??? Thank you

  • Comment 66, posted at 05.06.14 12:03:22 by balllllars Reply

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  • @balllllars (Comment 66) : howzit.

    Actually, I have no idea… I’m not sure if the IRB has even confirmed yet.

    With 4 props in a matchday squad, you can’t afford to have less that 5 props in your squad. I would imagine the limit of 30 would need to go up a bit.

  • Comment 67, posted at 05.06.14 12:59:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • World XV
    15 James O’Connor 14 Drew Mitchell 13 Rene Ranger 12 Wynand Olivier 11 Hosea Gear 10 Matt Giteau (c) 9 Rory Kockott 8 Roger Wilson 7 Steffon Armitage 6 Mamuka Gorgodze 5 Alistair Hargreaves 4 Juandré Kruger 3 Carl Hayman 2 Craig Burden 1 Sona Taumalolo.
    Reserves: 16 Andrew Hore 17 Schalk Ferreira 18 Pat Cilliers 19 Joe Tekori 20 Alexandre Lapandry 21 Jimmy Cowan 22 François Trinh-Duc 23 Stanley Benson.

  • Comment 68, posted at 05.06.14 13:08:23 by JarsonX Reply
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  • Thanks for the input hopefully it goes up to a 32 man squad. Don’t see why they need 3 scrummies tho would battle to see hyneke only selecting 5 loose forwards….. Alberts/vermuelen/flouw/spies/arno botha??? No room for coetzee….. Or schalk….?

  • Comment 69, posted at 05.06.14 13:16:50 by balllllars Reply

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  • @JarsonX (Comment 68) : If Giteau can manage to skip pass Wynand every time, that is a very dangerous back line. :grin: The pack should struggle to live with the Boks though.

  • Comment 70, posted at 05.06.14 13:16:57 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Comment 68) :
    Backline consisting of great individuals. But can they play as a team – ie would one pass the ball to the guy next to him instead of going themselves? Lots of ego’s in there.

  • Comment 71, posted at 05.06.14 13:33:01 by Blue Centurion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 70) : Crazy backline!
    I hope we get some entertainment here. Hopefully both sides realize the result will be forgotten in 2 weeks, so they must just enjoy it

  • Comment 72, posted at 05.06.14 13:34:10 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • Bakkies, Victor, Fourie Du Preez, Schalk.
    Geez, for a minute there I thought we were playing a Past Legends charity game

  • Comment 73, posted at 05.06.14 13:34:54 by The Great Couch Shark Reply
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  • @Blue Centurion (Comment 71) : The only real ego in that back line is O’Connor, and he probably is only too glad to play at this level again. Giteau is a bit strange (e.g. weird hair styles) but he is still a damn good player.

  • Comment 74, posted at 05.06.14 13:41:43 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Jeez can you imagine Mallet’s mouth if they beat the Bokke – God help us lol :mrgreen:

  • Comment 75, posted at 05.06.14 13:51:42 by RedSharkUtd82 Reply

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  • @RedSharkUtd82 (Comment 75) : He would dine on that for months.

  • Comment 76, posted at 05.06.14 13:55:22 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 30) : Wow Arno Botha is by far the best young loosie in SA – you are clueless

  • Comment 77, posted at 05.06.14 13:58:29 by Saffex Reply

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  • @Mpandla (Comment 36) : Agreed, the sooner we see the back of conservative Meyer the better – the guy is an insult

  • Comment 78, posted at 05.06.14 14:00:11 by Saffex Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 76) : That’s for sure – and for the rest of June on Supersport he will make reference to that whenever the Boks play bad lol.

  • Comment 79, posted at 05.06.14 14:02:58 by RedSharkUtd82 Reply

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  • Hmm so seems every man and his dog is bashing this Bok side….so what if they win on Sat? Then will it only be cos its a last min put together side? Or will the win not be by enough points? Or cos we didnt score spectacular tries? Fair enough to criticise after we lose but before…eish

  • Comment 80, posted at 05.06.14 14:23:13 by SheldonK Reply

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  • O.K so what will this side prove if they do win,that they are all going to be there at the death in 2015.
    When you look at that team with an iunbiased eye can you honestly say that Habbanna,Pienaar,Mattfield,Bakkies,Schalk, Guthro,Brits, Morne are going to bring anything new to the table,and really by 2015,they will have even less,surely this is the time to blood the guys who might give you a chance in 2015.
    Guys like Siburra,Kockert,Lewies,Whitely,Redelinghuis,Cooper,Sadie,Pollard,
    If they fail well at least it’s now and not next year.
    The only thing this prick Meyer thinks of is his short term win/loss record.

  • Comment 81, posted at 05.06.14 16:25:06 by The hound Reply
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  • @RedSharkUtd82 (Comment 75) : hell please not that!!!!! anything but that!!!!! Go Bokke!!!!! Hell I’ll even go for a Go Vic!!!!! and Go Meyer!!!!!

  • Comment 82, posted at 05.06.14 17:10:57 by JD Reply
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  • MS NO 10 BOOOOOOORING!

  • Comment 83, posted at 05.06.14 19:21:27 by [email protected] Reply

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  • @[email protected] (Comment 83) : With Goosen officially off to Racing Metro, our hopes are firmly on Lambie and Pollard to take the Bok 10 jersey. So maybe by the eoyt, hopefully, maybe, probably not…but here’s hoping.

  • Comment 84, posted at 05.06.14 21:46:43 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 84) : sorry to say but think MS will be with us untill HM goes.

  • Comment 85, posted at 05.06.14 22:11:00 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 85) : In all probability that is true…

    …strange thing repeatedly emphasised by Matfield in an SS interview, was how important it was for him and everyone else to fit into the team culture – so I assume, a player’s inability to fit into this mythical “team culture”, will exclude him from further team participation, no matter his level of skill?!

    Maybe I’m reading too much into this, but who exactly decided this new mythical “team culture” at the Boks, and what does it entail?

    Kind of sound like you’re having to fit in with the cool kids in school, or go hang around the chess club. :roll:

  • Comment 86, posted at 05.06.14 22:52:40 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 81) : Yeah thats the problem – he is too worried about his win/loss record. I think many of us share your sentiment into bringing the younger guys in etc.
    Alas this is the hand us Bok supporters was dealt and this is also the main reason I don’t give much a damn if they win or lose with these old toppies. I hope for HM ‘s sake that he wont keep all these old guys and try and win next year’s WC with them. If that is his plan he is in for one big surprise – but hey that’s just my opinion :mrgreen:

  • Comment 87, posted at 06.06.14 08:48:38 by RedSharkUtd82 Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 82) : Lol :grin:

  • Comment 88, posted at 06.06.14 08:50:13 by RedSharkUtd82 Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 86) : I take it you also don’t subscribe to mission statements and other twaddle? :lol:

  • Comment 89, posted at 06.06.14 09:24:11 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 86) : Team culture is more important than talent alone. If there aren’t enough examples in SA then look at the ABs. They select on character and not just talent. This is rule number 1 for them.

    All the forces and cogs in the system need to be moving in the same direction for the, as they call it, “spearhead” to work.

    One person we all know who places culture above all else is Brendan Venter. No need to harp on about his results.

  • Comment 90, posted at 06.06.14 09:40:14 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 86) : nice excuse to not pick players so that you then can pick all your old buddies.

  • Comment 91, posted at 06.06.14 16:47:50 by JD Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 90) : Why aren’t you writing more articles?

  • Comment 92, posted at 06.06.14 16:57:29 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Comment 93, posted at 07.06.14 21:28:22 by BluffShark Reply

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