Frans quits Bok squad

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Springboks on 10 Jun 2014 at 19:09
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Cell C Sharks centre Frans Steyn has been released from the Springbok training squad – at his own request.

The full text of SARU’s release follows:

Frans Steyn was released from the Springbok squad at his own request on Tuesday and will not appear in Saturday’s match against Wales at Growthpoint Kings Park, Durban.

The player advised SARU officials that that he did not wish to be considered for the Castle Lager Incoming series.

“The environment in the Springbok squad is fantastic and I would like to state categorically that my relationship with Heyneke Meyer, the rest of the management and my team-mates is very good,” said Steyn.

Steyn – who is expected to take up a contract in Japan at the end of Vodacom Super Rugby Series – said that he wished for time to reflect on his Springbok future. He indicated he would be available for the Cell C Sharks once the June internationals are completed.

“I have spoken at length to Frans and we are happy to accede to his request,” said Jurie Roux, CEO of the South African Rugby Union (SARU).

“He has asked for some time to consider his international playing future and we must respect that. Let me make it clear that he has not retired from international rugby, but he has requested a break from it.”

Roux added that Steyn had asked for privacy at this time.

“This is not an ideal situation, but, in other instances, sudden player absences through injury are not uncommon and I’m sure Heyneke and the selectors will adapt to his unavailability. Frans is now out of the squad and team management will respect his wish for privacy by not speculating on his decision or his likely return.”


  • Damn weird decision, but good for his career. Ballsy move.

  • Comment 1, posted at 10.06.14 19:11:49 by PTAShark Reply
    DragnipurSuper Rugby player
  • I just ain’t buying there are no issues etc…..

  • Comment 2, posted at 10.06.14 19:24:41 by sharks_lover Reply

    sharks_loverTeam captain
  • Big Brass Balls! There are obviously some serious issues in that camp of mercenaries and ja-boeties and he doesnt need it. Hes a multi millonaire Besides he has a SR tournament to win. The cracks are showing and the sooner the walls come down the better

  • Comment 3, posted at 10.06.14 19:39:31 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • Very odd yes, but who replaces him?

  • Comment 4, posted at 10.06.14 19:47:23 by David12246 Reply

    David12246Currie Cup player
  • Seems as if I’m the only one that’s sorry he decided to quit Bokke? just hope he does not regret his decision later as he had a real chance to cement his place while JDV was injured.

  • Comment 5, posted at 10.06.14 20:37:10 by JD Reply
    JDAssistant coach
  • @David12246 (Comment 4) : that’s easy Serfontein.

  • Comment 6, posted at 10.06.14 20:38:22 by JD Reply
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  • Where there’s smoke there’s fire…something is going on there. Why not last week before a nothing game, instead now before a test match in front of his home crowd…just seems like something or someone has forced his hand.

  • Comment 7, posted at 10.06.14 20:40:06 by SharkED Reply

    SharkEDUnder 21 player
  • Fun theories to throw around whilst the truth behind his departure is being engineered:

    1. Another kamp staalwol loomed
    2. Frans did not want to bite the chicken’s head off
    3. Frans is a South African Englishman apologist, HM and the broederbond tried to cast it out of him – oupa Vic failed miserably ;-)
    4. Frans could not stand listening to another Stof Stevesuyer cd.

    That’s what I was able to come up with…

  • Comment 8, posted at 10.06.14 20:46:34 by FireTheLooser Reply

    FireTheLooserTeam captain
  • @SharkED (Comment 7) : ja something sure smells funny but it’s still a pity he decided to walk away from the Bokke.

  • Comment 9, posted at 10.06.14 20:49:00 by JD Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 8) : haha good attempt…cant wait to see what unfolds

  • Comment 10, posted at 10.06.14 20:49:40 by SharkED Reply

    SharkEDUnder 21 player
  • @JD (Comment 9) : have to agree with u there…

  • Comment 11, posted at 10.06.14 20:51:05 by SharkED Reply

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  • Funny that he ups and leaves just a week after Matfield wormed his slimy way back into the team. Now we will probably see Serfontein starting at 12 on the weekend

  • Comment 12, posted at 10.06.14 20:56:20 by KingRiaan Reply

    KingRiaanSuper Rugby player
  • Probably has to do with fatigue or the ongoing battle with his knees or a bit of both. The fact that the injury will need to be managed for the rest of his life is not a cheerful thought to say the least. Rest easy big guy.

  • Comment 13, posted at 10.06.14 20:57:06 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 12) : yes until JDV is back.

  • Comment 14, posted at 10.06.14 20:57:55 by JD Reply
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  • I heard from a normally reliable source close to Sharks that Steyn had a barmy with HM and walked out of the Bok camp and trained with the Sharks. That is when the shit about managing his injury started in the media. Two weeks later he withdraws from Boks… note it sais its a break not retirement could this mean a break till HM iz no longer Bok coach?

  • Comment 15, posted at 10.06.14 21:00:07 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 13) : So he decided to place the Sharks before the Boks?

    There’s a reason a player puts his franchise before his country.

    I don’t fault him however, I put the Sharks first too.

  • Comment 16, posted at 10.06.14 21:00:11 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Something smells

  • Comment 17, posted at 10.06.14 21:01:42 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 16) : and me! Sharks 1st.

  • Comment 18, posted at 10.06.14 21:03:13 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 13) : Pretty much what I was thinking.

  • Comment 19, posted at 10.06.14 21:04:00 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 18) : me 2

  • Comment 20, posted at 10.06.14 21:06:58 by Honey Badger Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 16) : Not what I was saying at all. I don’t buy into the conspiracy theories to be honest, too many assumptions. It’s occam’s razor for me. Simply think he’s listening to what he’s body is saying and it is most likely telling him he can’t perform at his peak right now. A smart player would not want to represent his country in such a state. International rugby is another step up from Super Rugby.

  • Comment 21, posted at 10.06.14 21:11:14 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Okay koebaai dan.

  • Comment 22, posted at 10.06.14 21:14:16 by Morné Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 21) : You’re no fun ;-)

    Conspiracy theories are the cornerstone of blogging these days, especially when “THEY” are hiding the truth from us :twisted:

  • Comment 23, posted at 10.06.14 21:14:25 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 22) : You obviously did not get the memo….if you want to comment on this thread, you have to chip in with a conspiracy theory first. :twisted:

  • Comment 24, posted at 10.06.14 21:18:52 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 23) : I only entertain one and it’s more of a superstition to be honest. Morne should always publicly bet against the Sharks :D

  • Comment 25, posted at 10.06.14 21:22:08 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 24) : yeah…we have to keep ourselves entertained over the next few weeks :lol:

  • Comment 26, posted at 10.06.14 21:24:16 by SharkED Reply

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  • @SharkED (Comment 26) : watch hockey and soccer. Give Frans a break and privacy as he requested.

  • Comment 27, posted at 10.06.14 21:29:46 by JD Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 25) : think he sould be block from posting any comments until Super rugby is finished.

  • Comment 28, posted at 10.06.14 21:31:31 by JD Reply
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  • @SharkED (Comment 26) : We’ll get so far into these conspiracy theories, that by the time the truth is revealed, it will be a big old let down.

    ..though I won;t believe anything until Steyn’s book is written, that will tell it all. :twisted:

  • Comment 29, posted at 10.06.14 21:35:15 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 27) : not a hockey or soccer fan :cry: …dont worry JD its all in jest, im a big Frans fan, and I sure he has is reasons for this decison, whatever they are he will always have my respect for the player he is….the positive spin off is he has commtted himself to the sharks and now he will get the rest he’s so badly needed…

  • Comment 30, posted at 10.06.14 21:40:14 by SharkED Reply

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  • @SharkED (Comment 30) : yes I’m also glad he will get rest before the last few Super rugby games.

  • Comment 31, posted at 10.06.14 21:43:41 by JD Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 29) : haha…ja u probably right there…but the book, now that will be a best seller :lol:

  • Comment 32, posted at 10.06.14 21:45:03 by SharkED Reply

    SharkEDUnder 21 player
  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 24) :

    Conspiracy theory.

    Like any relationship, Frans just felt like the age-gap between him and the other senior Boks were too big and it could never work.

  • Comment 33, posted at 10.06.14 22:04:38 by Morné Reply
    MornéTeam captain
  • Sorry chaps, as much as I love the Sharks, the Boks come first and always will. It is sad to see a player elect not to represent the national team.

  • Comment 34, posted at 10.06.14 23:04:22 by Feather Reply

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  • @Feather (Comment 34) : yes with you on that, it’s really sorry.

  • Comment 35, posted at 10.06.14 23:21:25 by JD Reply
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  • Perhaps we wants to be well rested to help the Sharks win SR and make amends for 2007. If so, I hope it works.

    But then why play the World-XV game?

    If this is a case of throwing his toys out the cot, then the Boks are better of without him and I’d rather he move on from the Sharks also.

  • Comment 36, posted at 11.06.14 03:36:29 by fyndraai Reply

    fyndraaiSuper Rugby player
  • Is this something to do with his chronic knee problems? He’s been playing through pain all season. I can see why cashing in in Japan while can still walk and cutting other ties makes sense.

  • Comment 37, posted at 11.06.14 04:04:56 by MikeSebMatt Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 33) : :lol: :lol: I like

  • Comment 38, posted at 11.06.14 07:13:27 by FireTheLooser Reply

    FireTheLooserTeam captain
  • It was never clear to me if he would be available for the RC with the new Japanese contract. If he was in fact not going to be available for the RC, what would be the point of him playing in the June tests?

    It just providing a new opportunity for a youngster like Serfontein (pity Allende is injured) to stake his claim for the second centre spot.

    That said a youngster in this Bok team is anyone under 30 :lol:

  • Comment 39, posted at 11.06.14 07:24:53 by Bokhoring Reply

    BokhoringTeam captain
  • There IS a conspiracy theory!

    After watching Wynand Olivier performing for the World XV, room had to be made to include him in the side again. And Steyn just happens to be occupying said player’s spot.

    It all makes sense.

  • Comment 40, posted at 11.06.14 07:52:52 by Blue Centurion Reply

    Blue CenturionCurrie Cup player
  • Probably means Frans is not coming back to the Sharks after leaving for Japan, so you guys shouldn’t be so cock-a-hoop.

    I’m not a fan of players doing this kind of thing so close to a big game.

  • Comment 41, posted at 11.06.14 07:55:47 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 41) : I think the timing has a lot to do with Frans’s contract with the Lupus being publicly confirmed on Monday. I heard a report on the news this morning that the issue is due to a contractual dispute, although with the radio silence on both sides I am not sure how true this is.

  • Comment 42, posted at 11.06.14 08:05:41 by Bokhoring Reply

    BokhoringTeam captain
  • I see that on one of the newspapers they claim that it is because of money. Apparently Frans said he can make twice the amount of money overseas as here. Don’t know if I fully believe that story though.

  • Comment 43, posted at 11.06.14 08:14:47 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • At least we will get a rested Frans Steyn for the last couple of games of SupeRugby. These incoming tests is a bunch of hogwash in any case. Would have been upset though if it was during the RC.

  • Comment 44, posted at 11.06.14 08:27:59 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 21) :
    Occam’s Razor! That’s the principal I was looking for to try and explain this.

    Definitely because of knee and body issues.
    The guy is what, 26? Imagine being 26 and having to give up your only source of income because of a potentially debilitating knee injury.
    My guess is that we wont see him much in a Sharks jersey after this year either. He’ll be earning cash in Japan while playing rugby that is not as harsh on the body.

  • Comment 45, posted at 11.06.14 08:31:51 by John Galt Reply

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  • :shock: WTF Frans. Clearly there are issues somewhere and I presume they must be BIG, for him to walk out on the eve of a test, and I would now imagine, his World Cup 2015 chances.
    Jong these Bethlehem ouens seem to be temperamental. :twisted:

  • Comment 46, posted at 11.06.14 08:35:18 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply

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  • My conspiracy theory:- Frans was not happy with the rating Rapport newspaper gave him for the game against the World XV (I think it was a 6)

  • Comment 47, posted at 11.06.14 08:40:13 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply

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  • My opinion is that he did not enjoy the Heineken Laager offered to him.

  • Comment 48, posted at 11.06.14 08:40:42 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 21) : @John Galt (Comment 45) : But if that was really the case then Im sure the presser would cite medical grounds for his leaving, surely that would be more palatable to them (SARU), Frans and the SA public than what we have now.

  • Comment 49, posted at 11.06.14 08:44:21 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 49) : Agreed.

    I do think Frans has now finally burnt his bridge with SARU, but then again he has done it all at the highest level (except a super trophy). Time to cash in and think about his future after rugby.

  • Comment 50, posted at 11.06.14 08:52:17 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • I seem to remember in John Smit’s autobiography or Jake Whites (I read them in 2 weeks and keep confusing them) that Frans Steyn was given a hard time by the Bulls players in the squad in 2007. I highlighted that part although it was just one line when I was writing my rugby blogs.

    Victor is back as Captain. Bakkies, Gurthro, FDP, Morne Steyn…

    Further more than was sitting close to field at Newlands on Saturday. Frans got the ball and took on the defense. Willie Le roux started arguing with Frans after that as he was on the outside with a 2man overlap. They kept arguing. I thought it was so strange because I have never seen the Sharks players argue like that and was wondering if this was normal. FdP came on and got caught in the argument as well, he seemed to have mediated it. This went on for 20min and there was a lot of talking between the player while the game was on

    It seemed that Frans being the senior player was annoyed with Willie undermining him
    Don’t know if this has anything

  • Comment 51, posted at 11.06.14 08:57:17 by Mocho Reply

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  • @Mocho (Comment 51) : Hectic

  • Comment 52, posted at 11.06.14 09:02:05 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • Also. Victor seemed to be really irritating the team with his leadership. He seemed over vocal and kept shouting out orders. The team looked like they were being Microsoft managed by Victor and you could see you on the faces that they just wanted to play the game. Like they were saying with their body language, we been playing for 2 years with Heyeneke we know what expected we don’t need another coach

    Anyways this is what I observed from Newlands. Again I maybe wrong and this has nothing to do with Frans leaving. I just have a funny feeling considering Frans shows his emotions by his actions in the past

  • Comment 53, posted at 11.06.14 09:03:28 by Mocho Reply

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  • Maybe I should create a Sharksworld App for better mobile use . All my grammatical errors. Micro managed not Microsoft managed :-D

  • Comment 54, posted at 11.06.14 09:06:14 by Mocho Reply

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  • @Mocho (Comment 51) : @Mocho (Comment 53) : Interesting…

  • Comment 55, posted at 11.06.14 09:07:46 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 54) : When Steve Ballmer ran Microsoft it apparently was the same thing :grin:

  • Comment 56, posted at 11.06.14 09:08:10 by Bokhoring Reply

    BokhoringTeam captain
  • This is really not a rocket science decision. Steyn has a chronic knee injury limiting his playing time and probably cutting his career down to say 3-5 more years max. Yes yes he wants to represent the Boks but he also needs to think about his future and his income earning potential-its not like he is going to be a rocket scientist when he is finished playing. So instead of risking his body playing internationals he will rather use his resources wisely and earn more money playing Super rugby and in Japan. Makes me laugh when people comes up with conspiracy theories bout trouble int he Bok camp etc hahahahahha

  • Comment 57, posted at 11.06.14 09:09:05 by SheldonK Reply

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  • This maybe be all speculation. What I mentioned though is the facts of what I saw on the field

  • Comment 58, posted at 11.06.14 09:12:06 by Mocho Reply

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  • @fyndraai (Comment 36) : I don’t mean to be rude but that’s a ridiculous statement. Steyn is like Jake White, a world cup winner, a proven winner, why would you want him to leave the Sharks?

    We don’t know what’s going on in the Bok camp, so we can only speculate, but the logical reason for him withdrawing is because of his knees. If he needs time to rest and he’s not going to be available for the Rugby Championship but will be for the rest of Super Rugby then he’s made the right choice. Rather he help the Sharks to try and win Super Rugby than play against the Welsh and Scottish for what is effectively pride. There’s no trophy or title at stake so I’m pleased he’s made this decision.

  • Comment 59, posted at 11.06.14 09:19:32 by Jacques Venter Reply

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  • Well according to Beeld/die Burger etc its about money :roll:

  • Comment 60, posted at 11.06.14 09:19:38 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 56) : hahaha. JdV reminds stamped his leadership by trusting his players around him and having many leaders on the field. This was a John Smit model of leadership style. A flatter Leadership with focus on creating leaders.

    Victor is a very much what Victor says players must do. Must more hierarchical and centric.

    Frans seems to excel when he is given space to make his own decisions. A right brained creative individual who excels in flat leadership structure. Jake White understands. His like managing a graphic designer if any of you went through such a life a experience.

  • Comment 61, posted at 11.06.14 09:20:18 by Mocho Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 49) : I would agree if SARU released him on medical grounds. If they however view him fit to play but he doesn’t view himself (physically or mentally) fit to play I can understand why they’d keep the reasons personal. Frans fans would immediately accuse SARU of ignoring medical issues while others would criticise Frans of betraying his country because his injury could be managed. Neither party would want to publicly defy the other’s opinion and add even more fuel to this fire.

    I could be way off on this, we all know there is a lot of internal politics in rugby but I’d rather stick to the simpler explanations and not speculate as I don’t have the slightest insight into anything else might be transpiring.

  • Comment 62, posted at 11.06.14 09:38:32 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 51) : This is disturbing.

    I remember in the SuperRugby game between the Sharks and the Stormers at Newlands last year Sean Robinson made his debut for the Sharks and he got mauled and subsequently messed up with his first touch of the ball in our 22 and Frans, who was a long way from the action when the break in play came made his way to Robinson and comforted and reassured him – it was a great touch by someone who obviously managed to understand the angst that the youngster was experiencing.

  • Comment 63, posted at 11.06.14 09:43:12 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 57) : Thats plausable but then why not say it, and why even pitch for the initial training camp?

  • Comment 64, posted at 11.06.14 09:51:04 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 62) : It could actually be so many things, unfortunately their press release just helps in getting the speculation juices flowing.

  • Comment 65, posted at 11.06.14 09:56:27 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply

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  • @JarsonX (Comment 60) : Well that completely rules out money then.

  • Comment 66, posted at 11.06.14 10:00:32 by gregkaos Reply
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  • Anyways I hope Frans has a good rest and can resume duty at inside centre for the Sharks when normal play resumes.

  • Comment 67, posted at 11.06.14 10:04:49 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply

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  • From the Witness this morning, who normally get these things right:

    According to a source near the Bok team Steyn is unhappy about a promise that Saru made to him when he returned from the French club team Racing Metro to the Sharks.
    Because of the unkept promise the 27-year-old Steyn is now reportedly playing for less than half of what he could have earned in France. The reported promise from Saru could not be verified last night.
    Sister paper Volksblad has however learnt Steyn and Saru officials had been in spirited talks two weeks ago during a Bok camp in Durban.
    Steyn reportedly spelt out the reasons for his unhappiness, got into his car and did not participate further in the camp.

  • Comment 68, posted at 11.06.14 10:05:09 by jonnow Reply

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  • @gregkaos (Comment 66) : :lol:

  • Comment 69, posted at 11.06.14 10:05:27 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply

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  • I think both parties (SARU and Steyn) should of been more forthcoming about the reasons in their media releases, otherwise everyone will be guessing and cming up with their own reasons why this has happened.

    The lack of such details, especially any relating to his injuries, seems to infer that the reasons are not ones they would like to be out there in the open

  • Comment 70, posted at 11.06.14 10:24:10 by stevovo Reply

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  • @jonnow (Comment 68) : So that would indicate that SARU have not been holding up (paying) their part of the deal.

  • Comment 71, posted at 11.06.14 10:31:21 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply

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  • @stevovo (Comment 70) : That would never work… SARU is still an employer/soon to be former employer to Steyn and the first rule of leaving a job is to not burn bridges.

    I can understand why he’s pissed. Why should he have come back if he wanted to play for the Boks when players the like other inferior Steyn can go overseas and get paid more and still play for the Boks? A huge case of double standards.

  • Comment 72, posted at 11.06.14 10:37:42 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 71) : If what the Witness reported is correct, it would seem so.

  • Comment 73, posted at 11.06.14 10:37:55 by jonnow Reply

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  • @gregkaos (Comment 66) : :D

  • Comment 74, posted at 11.06.14 10:41:15 by vanmartin Reply
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  • I blame Morne Steyn.

  • Comment 75, posted at 11.06.14 10:48:40 by Talent Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 72) : Very double standards…I’d be peeved too

  • Comment 76, posted at 11.06.14 10:56:20 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Bloody disaster amateur hour time again by SARU…..this would never happen by an All Black. Poor show on both sides , Frans Steyn has blood on his hands too, leaving in this manner leaves a sour taste, especially as he knows the Boks have massive injury concerns in the midfield. He really has done Wales a huge favor here… we will be stuck with M Steyn as no way Heyneke will want Goosen and Jan Serfontein exposed to the Welsh at this stage of there careers….so Goosen the big loser here too. F Steyn and Brussow are my 2 favorite players, but I am not happy with Frans actions here… is not a club he has walked out on,,,,,it is his country he has forsaken……not sure many outside of Durban will easily forgive or forget….Luke Watson was crucified for a lot less!

  • Comment 77, posted at 11.06.14 11:08:15 by grant10 Reply

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  • @grant10 (Comment 77) : Frans Steyn has been pilloried by all and sundry, including by Sharks “fans” from his early days. I think he has grown a thick enough skin and I also doubt that he would have taken the decision in isolation. Nonetheless it is bloody disappointing the way this is playing out.

  • Comment 78, posted at 11.06.14 11:19:48 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply

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  • @grant10 (Comment 77) : Speculating here …again, but the timing to me would seem to suggest that he had already brought these issues up with SARU 2+ weeks ago at the training camp and that things have still not yet been addressed by SARU.

  • Comment 79, posted at 11.06.14 11:22:59 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply

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  • There’s a silver lining in all of this though. Steyn is not available for the Rugby Championships due to Japanese commitments, better to give a younger player more experience now as opposed to then. Steyn is also in desperate need of rest and would probably not have been at his best anyway. With our Bok captain usually playing 12 this is a great opportunity to develop the depth in that position.

  • Comment 80, posted at 11.06.14 11:27:37 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Yawn, we’ll still bash Wales in both tests without getting into third gear, so nothing to get overly excited about.

  • Comment 81, posted at 11.06.14 11:29:07 by rhineshark Reply

    Spirit of RugbyTeam captain
  • @vanmartin (Comment 80) : It never made sense to me (apart from short term cover for JdV) to include Frans in the Bok squad for these June tests – if he was never going to be available for the RC. Time for Serfontein to step up and deliver.

  • Comment 82, posted at 11.06.14 11:34:34 by Bokhoring Reply

    BokhoringTeam captain
  • @Bokhoring (Comment 82) : Fair point.

  • Comment 83, posted at 11.06.14 11:40:48 by vanmartin Reply
    Valued Sharksworld Supporter Author
    vanmartinAssistant coach
  • @rhineshark (Comment 81) : Have u watched Wales play recently or any of the recent Boks V Wales games? These 2 tests will be anything but easy!!

  • Comment 84, posted at 11.06.14 11:41:52 by SheldonK Reply

    SheldonKTeam captain
  • @SheldonK (Comment 84) : I’ve watched all Wales’ games this year.

    The quality of most of their 6 Nations opponents has masked the fact that their forwards (especially without Warburton) won’t be a match for ours, which means their backline is going to live off scraps.

    That’s unless we kick everything down their throats and fail to chase properly, of course.

  • Comment 85, posted at 11.06.14 12:02:12 by rhineshark Reply

    Spirit of RugbyTeam captain
  • Who would SARU award his contract if he wants to take a lenthy break from international rugga? Or do they keep paying him?

    All Jake had to do was plant a seed that seemed to Frans HM didn’t care about his career but about winning rugga games!! What a clever bugga that Jake is.

  • Comment 86, posted at 11.06.14 12:16:41 by Chippa Reply

    ChippaVodacom Cup player
  • I agree that there should be more consistency and clarity with regards to the seclection of overseas based players for the boks.

    Either is should be: none are considered, or all are considered possible within the contracts of their foreign clubs

  • Comment 87, posted at 11.06.14 12:24:58 by stevovo Reply

    stevovoCurrie Cup player
  • It’s a rather rare thing for me to agree with Voldy however his article on SARM is pretty much how I see it.

    Reminds me of Richie who said last year that he would walk away from the ABs if he felt his form was fading or wasn’t in it 100%. It’s one thing to say that but a completely different thing to actually be true to oneself and follow through.

  • Comment 88, posted at 11.06.14 12:32:52 by gregkaos Reply
    Valued Sharksworld Supporter Author
    gregkaosTeam captain
  • @stevovo (Comment 87) : I fully agree with that,although I would prefer that we dont use overseas based players at all…..look at the All Blacks,they back their systems and players playing S15 and still they are the worlds best,HM always goes on that he needs experiernce,start building it you idiot! With all that being said,I support Frans if he is thinking about his future.

  • Comment 89, posted at 11.06.14 13:02:59 by BarendL Reply

    BarendLCurrie Cup player
  • I`m not exactly torn up about this either.

    Means Frans will be fresh for our final couple of important games.

    As to his replacement . . Meisiekind, FA Meiring, Serfontein they`re all the same to me… :twisted:

  • Comment 90, posted at 11.06.14 14:20:15 by Original Pierre Reply
    Original PierreSuper Rugby player
  • @Original Pierre (Comment 90) : Yes, with the common denominator that Andre Esterhuizen is better than all of them put together. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 91, posted at 11.06.14 14:40:09 by rhineshark Reply

    Spirit of RugbyTeam captain
  • @rhineshark (Comment 91) : I reckon he will be huge for the Sharks in the CC and next year if Frans doesn’t come back from Japan! A Zeilinga,Esterhuizen and Sithole combo is going to be quite lethal I reckon!

  • Comment 92, posted at 11.06.14 14:56:21 by BarendL Reply

    BarendLCurrie Cup player
  • @Morné (Comment 33) : hahahaha I said the same thing, hes too young for the squad.

  • Comment 93, posted at 11.06.14 15:01:09 by pierre_mackie Reply
    pierre_mackieTeam captain
  • @BarendL (Comment 92) : I can’t wait to see any one combo of this line-up:

    Reinach/Ungerer, Lambie/Zeilinga/Swiel, Esterhuizen/Williams/Jordaan, Sithole/Jordaan, Mvovo/Chavhanga, Ndungane, Marais/Mvovo/van Tonder.

    Giftig! :grin:

  • Comment 94, posted at 11.06.14 16:51:03 by rhineshark Reply

    Spirit of RugbyTeam captain
  • @rhineshark (Comment 94) : not bad at all.

  • Comment 95, posted at 11.06.14 19:15:13 by JD Reply
    JDAssistant coach
  • If it’s true that he jumped in his car and left his place of employment whilst on duty during office hours then the man/boy is really immature, emotional and unreliable. Not someone who I would want to work (or play) on my teams.

    What do you blokes think? I’d wager most of you have jobs yourselves. How would behavior like this go down at the places you work?

    If he has a legal agreement with SARU, he should take them to court and get it enforced. But in the meantime, he should act like a grownup and a professional and stay at work.

  • Comment 96, posted at 12.06.14 01:25:57 by fyndraai Reply

    fyndraaiSuper Rugby player
  • @fyndraai (Comment 96) : unfortunately I don’t think it’s as clearcut as what you think. Let’s wait for all the facts before we condemn Frans or SARU. Both seems “happy” for now so let’s see what happens.

  • Comment 97, posted at 15.06.14 00:24:26 by JD Reply
    JDAssistant coach
  • @fyndraai (Comment 96) : If I was his employer and I had reneged on my contractual obligations and promises to him, and these had been brought to my attention over a long peruiod of time I would be very, very embarrassed with myself that I had driven one of my most talented people to take such drastic measures. Hopefully this will be a lesson to me and I would not shaft the next employee in the same way in the future so hopefully my fellow employees will understand the reasoning behind it and see it as possibly benefiting them mat some stage.

  • Comment 98, posted at 15.06.14 18:25:16 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply

    Salmonoid the SubtleAssistant coach

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