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Two changes to Bok starting team


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 18 Jun 2014 at 12:06
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Bok coach Heyneke Meyer has named a largely unchanged starting team for this weekend’s second test against Wales at the Mbombela Stadium in Nelspruit.

Bakkies Botha drops out of the pack due to injury, with Flip van der Merwe coming straight in at number 4 to partner Victor Matfield – the latter breaking John Smit’s record to become the most capped Springboks of all time with 112 appearances. Lood de Jager, who made an impressive test debut of the bench in Durban, will reprise that role this week.

The other change to the starting lineup sees Beast Mtawarira again preferred at loose head prop to Gurthro Steenkamp.

A change on the bench sees perennial Meyer favourite Wynand Olivier included in the number 22 jersey, where he replaces the injured Johan Goosen.

Springboks: 15 Willie le Rouz, 14 Cornal Hendricks, 13 JP Pietersen, 12 Jan Serfontein, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morne Steyn, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Victor Matfield (captain), 4 Flip van der Merwe, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Beast Mtawarira
Subs: 16 Schalk Brits, 17 Gurthro Steenkamp, 18 Coenie Oosthuizen, 19 Lood de Jager, 20 Schalk Burger, 21 Ruan Pienaar, 22 Wynand Olivier, 23 Lwazi Mvovo



126 Comments

  • For selecting Wynand Olivier coach Heyneke deserves a high five… in the face… with a chair…

  • Comment 1, posted at 18.06.14 12:10:45 by Culling Song Reply
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  • I’m not surprised that HM included Timotei but it still pisses me off immensely. What message does that send out to S’bu?

  • Comment 2, posted at 18.06.14 12:12:41 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 1) :

    Think Pollard will be on the bench for the next game and HM does not want to hand out free caps to the Likes of Boshoff and S’Bu

  • Comment 3, posted at 18.06.14 12:14:48 by Zibbie Reply
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  • Wynand Olivier selection is just wrong. Now is the chance to test new faces.

  • Comment 4, posted at 18.06.14 12:15:32 by Caratacus Reply

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  • Like is said before the only reason Jordan was called up with Oliviertjie is to keep the media away from saying he is only picking his Blou Ballas players,next year come world cup where will we be? We will have another John Smith in the form of Matfield,Bakkies ex we going to loose the world cup,because right now we have young up coming players who are really good and in my book and many others 1st choice in the picking order

  • Comment 5, posted at 18.06.14 12:18:29 by Duncan Betteridge Reply

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  • I once asked a coach who was an international player himself and coached a CC team, SR team, and two international teams when ‘the time is ready’ or ‘when do you pick a young (inexperienced) player’?

    His answer – “When you are absolutely forced to”

  • Comment 6, posted at 18.06.14 12:27:41 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 6) : Point is why call him up if you don’t intend using him, then HM should have called up WO to the squad from the start. Doesn’t this send out the wrong message to the players?

  • Comment 7, posted at 18.06.14 12:36:48 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I like Meyer and I like what he’s doing at the Boks but I’ve always struggled to like Wynand Olivier. I feel a paradox headache coming on :grin:

  • Comment 8, posted at 18.06.14 12:37:36 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 6) : sounds to me like a self-fulfilling prophecy, because if you do it that way no other players will every become experienced.

  • Comment 9, posted at 18.06.14 12:57:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • This started off as a puzzling selection but kinda makes sense. Beats is his no.1 option so thats why he is back. Same applies to Flip. Olivier had a good game for World XV thats why he is the centre cover as we dont have any. Pienaar is the flyhalf cover with Fourie DuPreez likely to play the whole game unless injury

  • Comment 10, posted at 18.06.14 13:00:12 by SheldonK Reply

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  • :roll:

  • Comment 11, posted at 18.06.14 13:00:42 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 8) : Yeah same here. Although I will admit he did look pretty good in the World XV.

    Not surprised to see only minor changes TBH. Pretty sure Wales will pitch up to this game and provide tougher opposition. The French got stuck in after getting thoroughly spanked in the 1st test against the Aussies.

    Got no problem with Flip there. Barring no injuries will be interesting to see who Ruan replaces. Personally I would sub FdP and keep him playing scrummie.

  • Comment 12, posted at 18.06.14 13:34:23 by gregkaos Reply
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  • Another pathetically conservative side…..it will only get better when Jaques Fourie, Jean de Villiers and Juan Smith get over their injuries.

    Imagine this sad excuse of a Bok side against NZ, Oz or England?

  • Comment 13, posted at 18.06.14 13:43:57 by Saffex Reply

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  • Who is this S’bu, you blokes are going on about?

    I’ve watched all the Sharks games this year and can honestly say I’ve never seen him done anything of note. His name’s been on the team sheet, and that’s about it.

  • Comment 14, posted at 18.06.14 13:44:51 by fyndraai Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 8) : Wow you are easily pleased!!!

  • Comment 15, posted at 18.06.14 13:46:02 by Saffex Reply

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  • The way I see it is HM not choosing to throw Sbura and Jordaan into the deep end is actually a good thing. Obviously it may mean that he a just trying to please the public but I find that hard to believe. I do believe the fastest way to end a young players springbok career is by rushing them into the side.

    Remember when PSTD was called up to the squad, it took ages for him to get his first cap. Everyone and their dog wanted to see him drafted into the match 23 from day 1. Sadly his injury prevented him from playing this year but no doubt that he would have featured in these 2 tests so far.

    I suspect if HM is serious about someones potential in green and gold he will not be rushing them into the side “unless absolutely forced to”. He knows what he’s getting with the experienced Wynand, who can slot in HMs game with relative ease. If you’re going to utilise a stop gap in a position, experienced players is the way to go.

  • Comment 16, posted at 18.06.14 13:52:57 by gregkaos Reply
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  • 1 Good game is good enough for certain players to crack the coach’s nod…maybe it’s the copper-bronze hair color he’s sporting these days that caught old HM’s eye.

    @Morné (Comment 6) : That sounds like the motto Plum lived, coached and ultimately (figuratively) died by….at the Sharks at least.

  • Comment 17, posted at 18.06.14 13:53:39 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @fyndraai (Comment 14) : Well obviously you have not been watching the Sharks matches, he scored a magnificent try, and set up another by litterally fitting through the tiniest of wholes, that your mr Serfontein would probably have tried unsuccessfully running over the player.

  • Comment 18, posted at 18.06.14 14:11:13 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • Watching the Boks live on Sat was a strange feeling for me,for the first time in nearly 50 years of watching Bok rugby I had absolutely no affinity for the team.
    The team has become the personal property of Victor Mattfield, he coaches them on the field.
    Most of the Sharks players in that team look like they are merely going through the motions,J.P ,Bismark and Willem look like they would rather be somewhere else.
    Any one with half a brain,could tell you that Bakkies is not a long term player he hasn’t two games left in him anymore,and hardly played more than half a game in France.Schalk looks like he could pull up lame any minute,Mattfield won’t play three weeks in a row.
    Morne Steyn is like a bad joke,that could get worse because a sure as there is a hole in Meyer’s arse,Spies and Sideshow Bob are on their way back ,with Greyling waiting in the wings.
    Not a team I want to support let alone pay momney to watch.

  • Comment 19, posted at 18.06.14 14:21:28 by The hound Reply

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  • I like the way the Boks play under HM, but Wynand??

    If this was the All Blacks, I could understand the whole thing about experience. This is Wales – never beaten SA at home, and not very likely too this year either. The ideal games to blood one or two players.

    The poor coach that succeeds HM after the WC. He will either sit with a bunch of very experienced 40 somethings, or start from scratch.

  • Comment 20, posted at 18.06.14 14:24:02 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Speaking of money,it was always traditional in Cricket anyway that players before their final retirement were alowed a benefit game or year.The were allowed as a tribute to their excellent service to pocket the cash raised in the name of the benefit, for their retirement.
    Correct me if I am wrong but didn’t Vic and Bakkies have an extended Blood Brothers series of benefits,aranged by Johan Rupert to honour their retirement.
    Lots of cash was raised and found it’s way into their pockets.The problem is that they did not retire.this could be construed as fraud.

  • Comment 21, posted at 18.06.14 14:29:01 by The hound Reply

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  • Willie must watch his back. One off-color game and HM will slip Zane right back in.

  • Comment 22, posted at 18.06.14 14:31:23 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 19) : :mrgreen: because a sure as there is a hole in Meyer’s arse,Spies and Sideshow Bob are on their way back ,with Greyling waiting in the wings.

    That made me laugh out loud. Thanks :grin:

  • Comment 23, posted at 18.06.14 14:35:28 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) :

    I can list 10000 dynamics at play when it comes to selections. The very, very obvious one in this debate is you are missing 5 guys at centre through injury or other issues – so you first choice 5 is gone.

    Now you have a guy that has started 2 tests in the 13 jersey, and another oke that made his starting debut a week ago.

    The other back up (JJ) had an average season and only 12 starts in a Bok jersey (at 13).

    S’Bu is there for the same reason Oupa is in the squad, and coaches select squads of over 30 players (to get fringe players or guys identified for the future a look into the structures).

    Wynand has close to 40 tests, plays inside and outside centre, massive amount of SR experience and looked half decent for the World XV.

    Would I throw a rookie on the bench to cover rookies already starting? You must be mad.

  • Comment 24, posted at 18.06.14 15:05:30 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 24) : you already know I’m mad, though…. how is that advancing the discussion? :)

  • Comment 25, posted at 18.06.14 15:11:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 24) :
    The reason we have no centres ripe and ready is that for three years we have persisted with players who were never going to get us to the next WC, JdeV and Fourie,two guys who should have stepped down after the last cup.If guys like Sadie and de Jongh,were given a chance against the incoming tours last year they would be game ready now.
    But this turkey never thought further than his next loss, and his win /loss record.

  • Comment 26, posted at 18.06.14 15:18:55 by The hound Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 26) : Judging how the bok game has evolved since he took over I’d say that he looks significantly further ahead than most perceive.

    By the way, as coach of the Springboks your win/loss record is what keeps you in a job. Considering that half the SA supporters still find any reason to moan about him after thrashing the Welsh 5 tries to 1. What do you think would have happened had he started off with a string of losses with us SA supporters been such a forgiving bunch?

  • Comment 27, posted at 18.06.14 15:44:21 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 24) : I would put either S’bu or Jordaan on the bench. Why? Because what better time to blood them on international level than now, against “lesser stern” opposition. This is not Rugby Championship or the World Cup, where a loss counts against you in the tournament. The only blemish a loss against Wales or Scotland would be on HM win/loose ratio. An heaven forbid that should happen. I also highly doubt that giving either Jordaan or S’bu a run in the final 15mins would do any harm to us. They both defend superbly and have oodles of attacking flair. Now, why is L’Oreal Olivier on the bench again?

  • Comment 28, posted at 18.06.14 15:51:46 by Another Nick Reply

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  • @Another Nick (Comment 28) : My argument exactly

  • Comment 29, posted at 18.06.14 15:56:39 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @fyndraai (Comment 14) : Who is this Wynand Olivier whose name I have seen on various team sheets year in and year out and who in all that time has conspired to be absent and highly forgetable.

  • Comment 30, posted at 18.06.14 15:57:26 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply

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  • @Another Nick (Comment 28) : @Bokhoring (Comment 29) : that’s how he keeps his job by winning kak poor teams like Wales and Scotland and then sucking in the Rugby Championship, giving him a 50% win ratio.

  • Comment 31, posted at 18.06.14 16:20:29 by JD Reply
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  • @Another Nick (Comment 28) : @Bokhoring (Comment 29) : only one more year then he’s gone!!! I’m almost missing Pdiv.

  • Comment 32, posted at 18.06.14 16:22:47 by JD Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 27) : no need for a second string team, just play three new guys and leave fossils like goldie locks to play in Japan.

  • Comment 33, posted at 18.06.14 16:25:16 by JD Reply
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  • @Another Nick (Comment 28) : Yes man!!!!

  • Comment 34, posted at 18.06.14 16:25:29 by Southern_Shark Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 30) : :twisted: @JD (Comment 31) : @JD (Comment 32) : @JD (Comment 33) : So much sense is being made.

  • Comment 35, posted at 18.06.14 16:26:51 by Southern_Shark Reply

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  • @Southern_Shark (Comment 35) : ja pity it’s by us sitting here and not the coach of the Bokke.

  • Comment 36, posted at 18.06.14 16:35:25 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 32) : As if that would change any of the negativity directed towards the next springbok coach.

    No matter who is coaching the Boks they are going to make selections that us couch coaches disagree with, they will be criticized for either been too conservative or experimental regardless on the amount of young players they bring into the system, having an archaic dull game plan even if they are averaging 4 tries per game, etc etc

  • Comment 37, posted at 18.06.14 16:38:04 by gregkaos Reply
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  • “I am a bit worried about Jan Serfontein as he received a bit of a bump when trying to score a try last week and I have been a bit uncomfortable about playing without a specialist back-up inside centre against Wales, who are strong in the midfield and revolve a lot of their plays around targeting the opposition 10 and 12 channel.

    “The thing is with Johan Goosen’s injury we need to have someone who can also play flyhalf, which Wynand can. Of course so can Ruan Pienaar, but then what happens if Fourie du Preez is injured early in the game and Ruan has to move to scrumhalf?”

  • Comment 38, posted at 18.06.14 16:39:21 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 38) : Ahh I get it now, he needs specialist back up at centre but not at flyhalf. I dont think I have ever seen Olivier at flyhalf but here he is being touted as good enough at test level in that position. I love it.

  • Comment 39, posted at 18.06.14 16:54:13 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply

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  • Watching Spain get handed their collective arses by Holland the other night I couldn’t help but draw an analogy to the current Bok team,same story a team who overstayed their welcome by two years.
    These guys were great but peaked at the Eurpoean champs two years ago .
    Most of Meyer’s Boks peaked in England in 2007

  • Comment 40, posted at 18.06.14 16:58:29 by The hound Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 39) : Its genius!!! I mean flyhalf is such a nothing position, you can just stick anybody in there. :twisted:

  • Comment 41, posted at 18.06.14 17:00:38 by Southern_Shark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 25) :

    Touche! ;)

    @The hound (Comment 26) :

    Oh you mean like Jake is blooding youngster in useless games like the one against the Stormers in Super Rugby? Oh wait…

    You select your fit, most experienced players in any game. This is not club rugby.

    BTW what is the age of the AB’s first choice centres compared to ours?

    @Another Nick (Comment 28) :

    What dreamland exactly are you living in that ANY test against a tier one nation is a ‘lesser’ test?

    And answer me this – how do you ‘blood’ new players in a system (test rugby) where you have your team for 12 weeks (that is 3 months) and you don’t have the privilege of pre-season, warm-up games, etc? You get your squad a week before the test and lose them straight after each tour. You don’t control their conditioning, fitness and rest in any way. They all play under different structures, in different combinations when not part of the Bok squad.

    SA Super Rugby coaches don’t even blood new players in a 5 month competition – they select the best available XV every single week. But we expect something else from our national coach?

    Every day I grow more perplexed at the psyche of SA fans.

  • Comment 42, posted at 18.06.14 17:26:24 by Morné Reply
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  • Dont worry folks.

    JDV
    Mossie
    JDJ
    Damien
    Jan
    JPP
    Frans (once he figures out what he wants)

    Are all ahead of Olivier.

  • Comment 43, posted at 18.06.14 17:58:15 by Morné Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 37) : @Morné (Comment 42) : Our complaints about Mr. Meyer is what keeps him honest….and it gives us something to do while we wait for our team filled with our players to once again play some rugby ;-)

    Mostly Bulls supporters enjoying the HM era…

    And these mid-year tours couldn’t come at a worse time. how are we supposed to put our provincial bias on hold for one month, just to start it back up again, and then to put it on hold again…can’t be done :lol:

  • Comment 44, posted at 18.06.14 17:59:18 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 43) : Has JJ completely fallen out of favour? I know the guy isn’t exactly setting the world on fire this year but he put in some decent performances last year.

  • Comment 45, posted at 18.06.14 18:16:32 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 44) : ag fuck boet don’t waste your time explaining it to him, he does not want to (or can not) understand it!!!!

  • Comment 46, posted at 18.06.14 18:18:25 by JD Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 45) : still think Serfontein and JJ could be a dangerous attacking centre pairing.

  • Comment 47, posted at 18.06.14 18:21:19 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 31) : Lol, my thinking too.
    @Morné (Comment 42) : I’m sorry, but for me there is a huge difference between playing the All Blacks and playing Scotland. True, test rugby is played at the highest level, as it should be, but if you don’t give new players a chance now, then when? Rugby Championship maybe? Where there are so much more at stake? I realise the national coaches do not have a lot of time to prepare for a test, I get that, but if a position (like center in this case) is ravaged with injuries, where does that leave you? What message does this send the guys that played their guts out to even make the squad? To give guys like Jordaan or S’bu a chance to run out in the green and gold jersey will not only boost their confidence immensely, they will also get exposure to rugby at that level. This in return will give HM more options when selecting his team, thus creating more healthy competition amongst the players and will be better for bok rugby all around.

  • Comment 48, posted at 18.06.14 18:49:26 by Another Nick Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 39) : :lol: I would pay good money to actually see Olivier go for poles in a test! Yes sir!

  • Comment 49, posted at 18.06.14 18:51:15 by Another Nick Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 30) :

    Ha. Ha. That’s a good one.

    But I did not promote any player over another. To me the coach may select whomever he pleases…….as long as he keeps winning.

    Great entertainment on this site from Wednesday to Friday. Loads of comments of the type: “HM is a moron, why didn’t he select the Shark Suit Man?”

    Then on Sunday and Monday….there’s an awful silence….whilst the usual gang of idiots wipe the egg off their faces.

  • Comment 50, posted at 18.06.14 18:58:29 by fyndraai Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 44) :

    And that is why we have blogs and we are all bloggers! :)

    @JD (Comment 46) :

    Oh I understand perfectly fucking well dude. This is a Sharks supporters website. And I take the comments as such.

    @Another Nick (Comment 48) :

    Like the difference between playing the Crusaders in Christchurch who are SR championship contenders and playing the lowly Stormers at home who are out of it?

    No explain the difference again to me cause I clearly don’t get it.

  • Comment 51, posted at 18.06.14 19:09:10 by Morné Reply
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  • Guys please. Let’s not dumb down this site with some of these statements. All tests are not equally important f f s. Wales have beaten us once in 28 tests. That is less than 4% chance of us losing to them. Away from home!! IT IS NOT IMPORTANT. What is important is to always remember HM is a p0€$

  • Comment 52, posted at 18.06.14 19:13:32 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 51) : This is not SR, this is test rugby. And if you seriously think that playing Wales or Scotland AT HOME is all the same as playing the All Blacks in their backyard.. well then, I have nothing more to add. I understand upsets happen every once in a blue moon, but would rather go experimental in a nothing match against a weaker team, to have the guys show what they can do.
    @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 52) : Exactly!!

  • Comment 53, posted at 18.06.14 19:24:32 by Another Nick Reply

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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 52) :

    You start off so well and then you end off by not only dumbing this site down, but make it a complete joke.

    @Another Nick (Comment 53) :

    Of course you have nothing to add, since you cannot answer a very simple question I asked (even though you did but I don’t reckon you noticed that).

    Talking of percentages… before 2014, how many times did the Sharks beat the Crusaders at home?

    Stats is a bit of a bitch.

  • Comment 54, posted at 18.06.14 19:29:15 by Morné Reply
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  • Okay lads, it has been fun, but I have to run along.

    Ciao

  • Comment 55, posted at 18.06.14 19:31:01 by Morné Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 46) : Thought I’d give it a crack.. seems you are right. :shock:

  • Comment 56, posted at 18.06.14 19:35:24 by Another Nick Reply

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  • Some vastly conflicting (and entertaining) opinions on the site today!

    I must say, while I am no fan of Heyneke’s, I have to concede that after a relatively slow start, the Boks have stayed to play a very entertaining and enterprising brand of rugby under his tenure (while mostly getting the right results too).

    Moreover, while I have questioned many of his selections, more of them have worked out for the better than not.

    All of which should still not detract from the facts of the situation, which can be summarised thusly: “I can’t f***ing abide Wynand Olivier”.

  • Comment 57, posted at 18.06.14 20:37:41 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 51) : got nothing to do with Sharks. By picking guys like Olivier and Burger he adds nothing to Bok rugby. HM missed a chance to select some youngsters. You seriously think those two are better than Carr or de Allende?!?!

  • Comment 58, posted at 18.06.14 21:04:50 by JD Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 51) : dude apparently you have not seen how SA teams play each other. How many time did a down and oit SA team beaten the top ranked SA side. No easy game in Super rugby where log points are at stake. What competition log points are at stake whilst playing Wales and Scotland cause I sure as hell don’t know of any?!?!?!

  • Comment 59, posted at 18.06.14 21:09:12 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 58) :

    Dude, you checked the injury list lately?

  • Comment 60, posted at 18.06.14 21:10:40 by Morné Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 58) : Ja, how Carr isn’t in the squad is beyond me. He’s not injured as far as I know.

  • Comment 61, posted at 18.06.14 21:12:20 by rhineshark Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 57) :

    Don’t rate the guy much myself actually. But let’s not let that get in the way of a proper selection debate regardless of province of origin or preference!

    It’s a logical selection, but logic escapes us passionate fans most days including church days.

  • Comment 62, posted at 18.06.14 21:13:11 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 62) : just could not stay away?!?!?! Lekke plek die boet?!?!

  • Comment 63, posted at 18.06.14 21:24:18 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 59) :

    No easy game in Super Rugby you say…

    No easy game when a local provincial side plays another you say…

    But apparently, there are ‘easy’ test matches when a COUNTRY plays another?

    I seriously fail to understand the logic in this line of thinking.

  • Comment 64, posted at 18.06.14 21:24:24 by Morné Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 63) :

    No checking emails and updating a stupid app I need for tomorrow before I head to Bloem of all places – so I refreshed over here cause everywhere else they are talking about that stupid roundball game being played in Brazil :)

  • Comment 65, posted at 18.06.14 21:26:25 by Morné Reply
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  • But I do need to get up at 4am – so now I am really out of here.

    Have a smashing evening lads.

  • Comment 66, posted at 18.06.14 21:27:13 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 66) : drive safe boet and enjoy Bloem.

  • Comment 67, posted at 18.06.14 21:30:10 by JD Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 64) : boet I did not say it’s easy I said guys like Burger and Olivier adds nothing for the future and could hve been replaced by two youngsters. Enjoy Bloem.

  • Comment 68, posted at 18.06.14 21:33:37 by JD Reply
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  • Wynand Olivier :roll: . I think Jan Serfontein had a decent game, but I cant remember seeing the guy pass in the first 60 minutes of Rugby. Thats what Meyer wants in a center; nothing more than a piece of meat capable of putting a 10 on his backside.

    I tell you now Matfield will go to the World Cup at the expense of Du Toit/Flip.

  • Comment 69, posted at 18.06.14 21:55:07 by Talent Reply
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  • I really hope SA gets a foreign coach next term. No one with an ounce of Blue Bulls dna in their blood. Id die for a Nick Mallet/Plumtree coached forward pack.

  • Comment 70, posted at 18.06.14 21:58:27 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 70) : hell no not Mallet!!!!!! Mr. Perfect can stay in the Cape!!!!

  • Comment 71, posted at 18.06.14 22:05:15 by JD Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 69) : knew that when he started the comeback and he will also be the captain.

  • Comment 72, posted at 18.06.14 22:06:49 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 72) : It is bullshit, blue coated bullshit.

    Please may this be the last hurrah of anything that resembles Blue Bulls Rugby.

  • Comment 73, posted at 18.06.14 23:04:18 by Talent Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 71) : I know Mallett has pissed off all Sharks fans for the Teichman incident but I don’t see what else he has done wrong???

    The man produced the best spell of Springbok rugby in my lifetime!! The players selected and the type of rugby played was the best I have ever seen from a Bok team…

  • Comment 74, posted at 18.06.14 23:33:39 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @Talent (Comment 69) : Last time I checked a World Cup needs at least 5 locks so how do you figure that?

  • Comment 75, posted at 18.06.14 23:39:25 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 75) : In the match 22(or is it 23). What about promising youngsters like Lood/Lewies/Willemse ? They wont cut it, so theyll go overseas. Matfield and Bakkies retire, and we are left with a handful of locks to pick from, most of whom are based overseas. Next coaches problem. Meyer will cripple this countries domestic stocks.

  • Comment 76, posted at 18.06.14 23:55:04 by Talent Reply
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  • My Meyer rants have been quelled a bit because of how boring the Sharks are playing. If Jake continues with this yawn fest we may see the death of Union in South Africa. :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 77, posted at 18.06.14 23:57:36 by Talent Reply
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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 74) : he started of great (just like Pdiv) and in the end he lost more games than he won. Overrated, opinionated, provincialistic asshole. It’s time SA get a coach that has no ties to any union.

  • Comment 78, posted at 19.06.14 00:13:11 by JD Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 75) : Vic, Bakkies, Kruger, Eben and ?!?!?!

  • Comment 79, posted at 19.06.14 00:15:05 by JD Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 76) : just be glad Danie Rossouw retired otherwise he would have received a call as well…… o no wait he could make a comeback like Vic…….. wonder how liefling is doing with his comeback?!??!?!

  • Comment 80, posted at 19.06.14 00:18:58 by JD Reply
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  • I agree with the last point for sure!!! But how and who?? And PDiv’s 2008 season was not spectacular at all….have to disagree about his coaching pedigree though

  • Comment 81, posted at 19.06.14 00:20:56 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 81) : my point is just like Pdiv got his team from Jake, Mallet got his team from du Plessis. Sure du Plessis lost more games than he won but it was his last games in charge that started the 17 game winning streak that Mallet get the credit for.

  • Comment 82, posted at 19.06.14 00:26:37 by JD Reply
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  • I see the French clubs are forcing HM’s hand to select new faces against Scotland. Apparently they want their players back after playing three games in the June test window.

  • Comment 83, posted at 19.06.14 07:43:30 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 81) : There’s a certain Junior Bok coach making serious strides with a team, where he is forced to select new players every year.

    JW came from Jnr. Rugby, sadly PdV was the blemish on the Jnr. Rugby coach experiment.

    Probably PdV’s shortfall was trying to implement a game style not played by any of the franchises.

    I’d also like to see what a guy like Niel Powell can add to a Bok team as an assistant coach. Then you just need a forwards coach….Plum will do.

  • Comment 84, posted at 19.06.14 07:46:52 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 42) : I have been as critical of Jake not resting key players.

    I don’t think anyone is asking for wholesale changes but at least one or two fresh faces exposed to Bok rugby from the bench while he has a chance to experiment.

    I will watch with interest how Meyer will deal with selection against the Scots (if the French clubs get their way) – especially at flyhalf. Pity Derek Hougaard’s comeback did not work out – Meyer would surely rate his experience over the youngsters we have in SA. :oops:

  • Comment 85, posted at 19.06.14 07:48:16 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 82) : And people talk about provincial bias with HM – Mallett at one stage included 14 Stormers in his match day 22.

  • Comment 86, posted at 19.06.14 07:50:58 by Blue Centurion Reply

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  • @Blue Centurion (Comment 86) : HM and Mallet….cut from the same cloth ;-)

  • Comment 87, posted at 19.06.14 07:52:06 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 85) : You asking for 1 or 2 fresh faces. Lood, Cornal, Serfontein – there’s already 3 fresh faces, so he has exceeded your requirements.

  • Comment 88, posted at 19.06.14 07:58:45 by MysticShark Reply
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  • @MysticShark (Comment 88) : Although only Cornal can be seen as by unforced choice – Lood and Jan were forced selections due to injury or unavailability of players (Flip / Bakkies and JDV / Frans).

    I get that Meyer does not have any specialist inside centres left in his squad – so he selected Wynand who does what he wants from an inside centre – tackles and crash the ball up.

  • Comment 89, posted at 19.06.14 08:09:20 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • rather than get new young talent in like Paul Jordan, the old pensioner Oliver is brought back.

  • Comment 90, posted at 19.06.14 08:11:39 by pete69 Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 57) : My feelings exactly

  • Comment 91, posted at 19.06.14 08:26:41 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • The thing I like least about HM is the fact that he coached the Bulls before coaching the Boks. He’s record with them was a good one. Naturally selecting players from that part of his coaching era will be something he feels comfortable with. Those guys did it for him once (more than once), he trusts them and believes in them. Basically he’s like us, only, he thiks Blue, while we think black & white.

    we won’t be complaining this much if one of the Sharks coaches took over and the players he fell back on were Sharks.

    That’s just human nature. You can’t blame HM for doing that. And he’s been doing pretty well while doing so, so now we really can’t say much.

    And he has been blooding youngsters, just not the ones we want him to.

    Lood played a good game this weekend. Goosen broke again (i felt really bad for him), but he also got his first caps under HM. PSDT would get more time if available. Jan played a good game over the weekend. Cornell Hendricks from nowhere has been drafted into the starting team. Willie is also a young player who I never though HM would take a chance on and look what’s happened.

    I’m a bit disappointing that Marcel and Kolisi has been left out in the cold now that Schalk is back, but I kinda get it. He was a huge icon of SA rugby and maybe HM feels his presence will be good for the guys around him, maybe the same idea applies to Bakkies – look how well Lood did of the bench. Would he have started that well? That’s the best I’ve seen Lood play for any team.

    I’m just glad he’s not dropping youngsters into the team left and right hoping they’ll be the next best thing and then when the team don’t perform start blaming the performances on them – that also happens.

    It’s hard to be passionate about Bok rugby with all these players that have become unfamiliar (unimportant) to me in the team. Watching the Boks have kinda become like watching a Barbarains game, with a bunch of Bulls included in the team.

  • Comment 92, posted at 19.06.14 08:35:59 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 76) : Your comment was about Vic and Bakkies going to the World Cup at the expense of Flip and PSdT, not about a match day squad. The youngsters will get their chances and there are no guarantees that Vic and Bakkies will be injury-free then. A lot can happen in the space of a year. Just ask PDT and Eben.

    @JD (Comment 79) : Vic, Bakkies, PSdT, Eben and Flip. PSdT can play in the flank too, Eben can call line outs, Flip has played 4 & 5. Kruger does not offer the same utility value the other three youngster do. I reckon he will only be brought in should their be an injury to the others.

  • Comment 93, posted at 19.06.14 08:56:17 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @MysticShark (Comment 88) : HM has a history of creating Boks then discarding them.

    2012: 13 Boks (plus 2 getting their first caps) only 6 played more than 10 tests
    2013: 11 Boks only 3 played more than 10 tests, the rest 1 to 3 tests

  • Comment 94, posted at 19.06.14 08:59:17 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 94) :

    Interesting… but doesn’t that prove that he is trying to blood new players, but that they maybe have not proven themselves?

  • Comment 95, posted at 19.06.14 09:03:21 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 95) : Then he’s not getting his selection of new talent right.

    Compare to the All Blacks – 2012: 9 new All Blacks, all have played more than 14 tests by now and apart from 2 injured players they are all in the current squad

  • Comment 96, posted at 19.06.14 09:14:24 by Baylion Reply

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  • My feelings about Victor, Bakkies and Schalk – they’ll add value to the team in the form of leadership and experience. I don’t think they will necessarily start. Victor might, but he’s proven to still be one of the best at what he does, but I don’t think Bakkies and Schalk would even make the match 23. Having those guys around, could be important for the team though.

    I’m more bothered with the overseas players (including Bakkies) than I am with older players. Especially guys of Victor and Schalk’s quality.

    Flouw can easily be replaced by Marcell who’s been having an excellent season. Bakkies with Lood.

    Fourie and Ruan – Hougie and Reinach (PvanZyl)
    Habana is playing great rugby again, but so is Mvovo.

    And I know HM puts Morne’s name down first, but then he should have told him to stay. Boshoff will be capable of doing the job Morne does.

    And most of these players will be back for next years SRugby if Heyneke selects the a team without any OBP’s.

  • Comment 97, posted at 19.06.14 09:21:47 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Baylion (Comment 96) :

    I think, if we’re honest, it’s because he’s picking those players reluctantly. Lood for example can quickly fall under the discarded list.

  • Comment 98, posted at 19.06.14 09:52:05 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 97) : The problem with HM pulling in the old guys is that he’s not developing any experience amongst the back up players and we are losing more of them to foreign shores (latest Philip van der Walt and, if rumours prove to be true, Paul Willemse)

    Have a look at our back-up per position then you’ll see what I mean.

    U/30 back-up with 10 or more caps (I might have missed a few):

    Prop: Coenie Oosthuizen
    Hooker: Adriaan Strauss
    Lock: Juandre Kruger, Eben Etzebeth
    Loosie: Marcell Coetzee, Siya Kolisi
    Scrummie: Francois Hougaard
    Flyhalf: None
    Centre: JJ Engelbrecht, Jan Serfontein, Juan de Jongh
    Wing: Bjorn Basson
    Fullback: None
    Utility: Pat Lambie

  • Comment 99, posted at 19.06.14 09:57:54 by Baylion Reply

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  • Uncapped players who’ve been part of Meyers squads (12):

    Paul Jordaan
    Callie Visagie
    Marcel van der Merwe
    Oupa Mohoje
    Marnitz Boshoff
    Damian de Allende
    S’bura Sithole
    Craig Burden
    Lionel Mapoe
    Raymond Rhule
    Franco van der Merwe

  • Comment 100, posted at 19.06.14 09:58:53 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 98) : Strue, he’s always waiting for his favourites to be ready :(

  • Comment 101, posted at 19.06.14 09:59:18 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 97) : We had all those supposed leaders at the 2011 wc, fat lot of good they did when the ref was having a below par game.

    Their experience helped us nothing. The qtr. final was the type of game where these supposed leaders were supposed to stand up, they didn’t.

  • Comment 102, posted at 19.06.14 09:59:42 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 100) : Franco got a reluctant cap

    And how many of these will go any further under HM?

    The fact is, uncapped players aren’t back-up players yet

  • Comment 103, posted at 19.06.14 10:00:49 by Baylion Reply

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  • 23 players capped by HM – 12 out of squad

    Lourens Adriaanse
    Cornal Hendricks (team)
    Lood de Jager (team)
    Elton Jantjies
    Frans Malherbe
    Arno Botha
    Piet van Zyl
    Pieter-Steph du Toit (injured)
    Jacques Potgieter
    Jano Vermaak
    Trevor Nyakane
    Jaco Taute
    Johan Goosen (injured)
    Patric Cilliers
    Jan Serfontein (team)
    Siya Kolisi
    JJ Engelbrecht (squad)
    Willie le Roux (team)
    Coenie Oosthuizen (team)
    Marcell Coetzee (squad)
    Juandré Kruger
    Duane Vermeulen (team)
    Eben Etzebeth (injured)

  • Comment 104, posted at 19.06.14 10:13:27 by Letgo Reply
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  • That seems to be a problem with most SA coaches. They rely heavily on their first choice and only builds depth when the first choice is injured.

    I know it is difficult to balance continuity and building depth, but in SA coaches due to our conservative nature will always rather revert to the tried and tested.

  • Comment 105, posted at 19.06.14 10:15:37 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • 15 played under HM (out of favor, injured, unavailable)

    Dean Greyling
    Werner Kruger
    Keegan Daniel
    Schalk Brits (team – stop gap)
    Juan de Jongh
    Gio Aplon
    Ryan Kankowski
    Heinrich Brüssow
    Chilliboy Ralepelle
    Francois Hougaard (squad)
    Zane Kirchner (squad)
    Andries Bekker
    Wynand Olivier (team – stop gap)
    Pierre Spies (injured)
    Jaque Fourie (unavailable)

  • Comment 106, posted at 19.06.14 10:16:53 by Letgo Reply
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  • 19 – not capped by Meyer and still part of immediate plans.

    Francois Louw
    Willem Alberts
    Pat Lambie
    Adriaan Strauss
    Flip van der Merwe
    Gürthro Steenkamp
    JP Pietersen
    Jannie du Plessis
    Francois Steyn
    Tendai Mtawarira
    Morné Steyn
    Bismarck du Plessis
    Fourie du Preez
    Schalk Burger
    Ruan Pienaar
    Bakkies Botha
    Jean de Villiers
    Bryan Habana
    Victor Matfield

  • Comment 107, posted at 19.06.14 10:19:11 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 106) : Lambie?

  • Comment 108, posted at 19.06.14 10:20:25 by Baylion Reply

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  • There’s about 29 players that has played under Meyer (12 capped under him) that is not part of his plans anymore, unavailable or injured.

    Of the 30 players in Meyers immediate plans 11 was capped under him, 19 capped before he arrived.

    He’s definitely tested the waters.

  • Comment 109, posted at 19.06.14 10:21:58 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Baylion (Comment 108) : Lambie and Frans Steyn should be on the not available list.

  • Comment 110, posted at 19.06.14 10:22:49 by Letgo Reply
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  • So 23 capped under Meyer and 34 pre-capped.
    11 new Meyer Caps stayed, 21 pre-capped.

    Meyer Cappped

    Lourens Adriaanse
    Elton Jantjies
    Frans Malherbe
    Arno Botha
    Piet van Zyl
    Jacques Potgieter
    Jano Vermaak
    Trevor Nyakane
    Jaco Taute
    Patric Cilliers
    Siya Kolisi
    Juandré Kruger

    Pieter-Steph du Toit (injured)
    Johan Goosen (injured)
    Eben Etzebeth (injured)

    Marcell Coetzee (squad)
    JJ Engelbrecht (squad)

    Jan Serfontein (team)
    Willie le Roux (team)
    Coenie Oosthuizen (team)
    Duane Vermeulen (team)
    Cornal Hendricks (team)
    Lood de Jager (team)

    Pre-Capped (played under Meyer, not in squad)

    Dean Greyling
    Werner Kruger
    Keegan Daniel
    Juan de Jongh
    Gio Aplon
    Ryan Kankowski
    Heinrich Brüssow
    Chilliboy Ralepelle
    Andries Bekker

    Pre-capped

    Francois Steyn (unavailable)
    Adriaan Strauss (unavailable)
    Jaque Fourie (unavailable)

    Pat Lambie (injured)
    Pierre Spies (injured)

    Francois Hougaard (squad)
    Zane Kirchner (squad)

    Schalk Brits (team – stop gap)
    Wynand Olivier (team – stop gap)

    Francois Louw
    Willem Alberts
    Flip van der Merwe
    Gürthro Steenkamp
    JP Pietersen
    Jannie du Plessis
    Tendai Mtawarira
    Morné Steyn
    Bismarck du Plessis
    Fourie du Preez
    Schalk Burger
    Ruan Pienaar
    Bakkies Botha
    Jean de Villiers
    Bryan Habana
    Victor Matfield

  • Comment 111, posted at 19.06.14 10:33:16 by Letgo Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 93) : Thank you very much for informing me on what I actually had in mind. Typical procedure from a Meyer apologist.

    If you cant see that Meyer is screwing up our domestic Rugby then you are blind.

  • Comment 112, posted at 19.06.14 11:11:14 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 112) : On the contrary, I wasn’t informing you on what you had in mind, I was informing you on what you had previously typed: “I tell you now Matfield will go to the World Cup at the expense of Du Toit/Flip.” I replied to that comment. It indicates that Matfield would go to the WC at the expense of du Toit and Flip, nowhere does it mention that he will be selected in a match-day squad at their expense. If you don’t mention it at all, how would I know that this is what you actually meant?

    I can only respond to what you type and not to what you have in mind when typing. I don’t think that’s unreasonable when carrying out a conversation on a blog as opposed to in person. Besides your words I have no other contextual clues to go on so I don’t want to read things into your comments that you did not type. So please, let’s dial down the stereotyping? I am a Meyer apologist but my comments to you and others have always stemmed from wanting to carry out a meaningful debate with people who have differing opinions to my own. To achieve this requires that I try my best not to apply my own bias by reading anything into a comment that is not stated in that comment.

    Regarding the domestic rugby statement, I’ve not shared my opinion on that so I’m not sure why you mention it at all?

  • Comment 113, posted at 19.06.14 11:40:04 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 113) : No perhaps you are right. I had it in mind and should have been more specific.

    I for one have no issue with Matfield playing right now, as there is no one else. I don’t think he should be a long term solution and I worry he will be.

  • Comment 114, posted at 19.06.14 12:06:57 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 114) : We share some common ground then. Even though I think conservative coaches are currently best suited to SA rugby teams, I do consider one of their weaknesses the fact that they tend to struggle to allow for new incumbents into the team.

    Plainly speaking most people, Sharks’ fan or not, view PSdT as the next banker at 5 for the Boks. I’d be lying if I said that I’m not concerned about whether Meyer will get the timing right on when to start PSdT ahead of Vic. I won’t however accuse him of favouring Vic over PSdT until I actually see that to be the case.

  • Comment 115, posted at 19.06.14 12:20:49 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 115) : These are my exact sentiments.

    The Springboks aren’t playing bad Rugby at all. I’ve actually enjoyed the way them and the Bulls (if im honest) have been playing, an indictment on the current state of Sharks Rugby as a spectacle? Probably.

    IMO the Springboks are a few components away from being a lethal attacking side; a better 10, more dynamic forwards, variation at 10/12 and more emphasis on backline realignment.

  • Comment 116, posted at 19.06.14 13:18:18 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 116) : If Jan Serfontein can develop an offload we’re in the money in my opinion. He attacks the gainline well, draws in at least two defenders most of the time but the ball tends to die too often or is recycled as pick and goes when he goes to ground. It’s still early days for him though so let’s see how he goes.

  • Comment 117, posted at 19.06.14 13:50:00 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Gotta thank Rob.

    Might be showing my ignorance here, but I learned a new word today thanx to this article :!:

  • Comment 118, posted at 19.06.14 13:51:30 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 118) : which one?

  • Comment 119, posted at 19.06.14 13:55:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 113) : Interesting to note that you seen to have evolved into the elder statesman of Sharksworld…

  • Comment 120, posted at 19.06.14 14:09:31 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 119) : Urm
    ” Reprise” . . :lol:

  • Comment 121, posted at 19.06.14 14:10:39 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 120) : I recently commented on a teenager’s prescription glasses. He started laughing and told me they aren’t prescription, clear glasses are now a fashion accessory. That exchange, similar to your comment, made me feel really old :grin:

    As an aside, he told me he was going for the ‘nerd look’ which is apparently very popular these days. Together with teens’ emo and vampire fixations, if these trends could only have happened 15 years back I would have been their damn king with my then pale complexion, wire-rimmed glasses and constant state of gloominess.

  • Comment 122, posted at 19.06.14 14:51:45 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 122) : It was bound to happen; it’s in the Bible after all. You know, that bit about the geek inheriting the earth…

  • Comment 123, posted at 19.06.14 16:01:57 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 123) : I enjoyed that :mrgreen:

  • Comment 124, posted at 19.06.14 16:25:33 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 102) : I agree and also a big problem is they were to old for that WC and now Huge Mistake intends using them again in 2015,just ask Spain about using old has beens

  • Comment 125, posted at 19.06.14 21:37:56 by benji Reply

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  • @benji (Comment 125) : only deference between old Bokke and old Spain is old Spain dominated world and European soccer for the last 6-8 years by winning every available trophy as for the old Bokke they dominated rugby 6-8 years ago.

  • Comment 126, posted at 19.06.14 22:24:28 by JD Reply
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