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Here we go again!


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 7 Jul 2014 at 09:16
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The Cell C Sharks seem to once again be paying for a “fast start” in Super Rugby, with defeats in their last two games seeing them slip from first position on the log after an outstanding tour, to third.

It’s been a bit of a trend in recent years that the Durban side have battled to impose themselves on this competition in any sort of consistent way over the course of a season; we’ve typically seen this year’s phenomenon, the sprint out of the starting blocks only to run out of gas towards the business end, alternate with the other, perhaps worse one, where the team fails to win any matches at the start of the year before staging a dramatic fightback towards the end.

So, 2014 will again be the bang-followed-by-whimper pattern. We can take some solace in the fact that the Sharks really did do phenomenally well during their purple patch this year and have actually manged to capture some silverware, even if the SA conference trophy is a bit of a lame duck when compared to the overall competition prize which the team now looks highly unlikely to win. With third place now looking the most likely finishing spot (perhaps even only due to being the best of a poor South African effort, rather than having third-most points overall) the Sharks are again going to face a nightmare schedule in the knock-out phase, needing to handle a home knock-out against strong opposition before (probably) having to win in Christchurch for the second time in a year.

Let’s hope that, at least, going into this weekend’s game against the Stormers at Newlands as rank underdogs might give us just the faintest hope of a win, because there’s precious little cause for hope right now as a Sharks fan.



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  • :shock:

  • Comment 1, posted at 07.07.14 09:21:45 by JarsonX Reply
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  • Stormers by 20 points, Sharks is too weak and tooo tired to win anything further this year, just saying sharks not going to win anything

  • Comment 2, posted at 07.07.14 09:23:45 by Windgat101 Reply

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  • Not out of it yet. Think we are paying the price of playing our top players into the ground, even after all the talk of ‘rotation’ at the start of the season.

    Pretty pissed at hoffman as well, first time in my life where I saw an advantage called over on the tryline. But we played pretty crap on saturday.

  • Comment 3, posted at 07.07.14 09:26:05 by PTAShark Reply
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  • Ja same old deja vu for Sharks supporters. I’m getting to the point where I wonder why I even give a shit anymore.

  • Comment 4, posted at 07.07.14 09:27:31 by rhineshark Reply
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  • I hate to say it But I Told You So. The writing was on the wall many weeks ago, the fact that we kicked everything away and cant manage to dot the ball down even when we are over the goalline was going to come back and bite us. If we maybe had a couple more bonus points then we wouldnt have been in this situation. I may not be an expert but I’m definitely not blind.

  • Comment 5, posted at 07.07.14 09:28:23 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @Windgat101 (Comment 2) : I see you’ve sobered up.

  • Comment 6, posted at 07.07.14 09:28:40 by rhineshark Reply
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  • I still think the losses of Lambie, Zeilinga and PSDT affected the team more than we realize. That was about the time we started to struggle through our games after starting so well. The only real highlights after that was the games against the Crusaders and the Blues.

    Frans is a fine player but he is at best a stop gap at 10. Swiel is not ready for Super rugby. Lewies did well in the line outs, but he does not offer the same physicality Du Toit brings to the party.

  • Comment 7, posted at 07.07.14 09:29:43 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • No I am a cheetah supporter but come on sharks loosing against a very poor and weak cheetah team come on with almost the whole team springboks u guys lost against the bottom log cheetahs

  • Comment 8, posted at 07.07.14 09:30:51 by Windgat101 Reply

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  • This was our year. If we dont take the cup now, we will not be taking it anytime soon.

  • Comment 9, posted at 07.07.14 09:33:26 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Comment 9) : The stats don’t lie. Teams that can’t score tries don’t win Super Rugby titles. That’s us screwed right there.

  • Comment 10, posted at 07.07.14 09:37:00 by rhineshark Reply
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  • Let’s stay hopeful :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 11, posted at 07.07.14 09:42:56 by Charlie Reply

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  • If it was my choice I would throw the Stormers game and send the top guys to go fishing, then come back and win 3 in a row. Thats all thats left really. Win 3 games in a row, one of which is a home game, and lift the cup

  • Comment 12, posted at 07.07.14 09:58:52 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • The loss of Zeilinga? he is not lost. JW just doesn’t play him. Instead he is in the XV team. Whilst Swiel (the clown) is taking a spot he (Fred) should have had in the supers. Sithole and Jordaan should have been at center with Frans an replacement option for center or FH. Swiel is a bad idea he should spend at least 2 years at a lower level before going to supers.

  • Comment 13, posted at 07.07.14 09:59:52 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Bizarre decision to not have a reserve 10/12 on the bench!?

    I actually enjoyed the way the Sharks threw it around a little in this game.
    I think we’ll be alright against the Stormers but will then have to travel for the finals. Again.

  • Comment 14, posted at 07.07.14 10:00:43 by John Galt Reply

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  • It really hurts to be a Sharks supporter today, but I just have to believe we can produce against the Stormers and still leave ourselves with a slight chance by taking 2nd spot.

  • Comment 15, posted at 07.07.14 10:04:58 by Letgo Reply
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  • Also, I don’t think this is a good time to start playing the blame game, as I think it hurts just as much for the coaches and the players.

    Lets just hope that it hurts enough that they won’t allow another loss until the end.

    This really sucks!

  • Comment 16, posted at 07.07.14 10:07:22 by Letgo Reply
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  • They call it The Big Annual Choke of South Africa rugby!

  • Comment 17, posted at 07.07.14 10:12:10 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 13) : After Fred got injured he was not available for selection for any super games before the break. I will put down his 40 minutes for the XV team as a way of getting back to full fitness. But I do hope to see him involved in the Stormers game.

  • Comment 18, posted at 07.07.14 10:12:13 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Freak performances against the Crusaders and Blues have masked the fact that we’ve been playing a boring, antiquated brand of rugby all year.

    Our biggest threat for the title, The Waratahs, have scored twice as many tries as us while conceding just 3 more.

    Compare the crap that passes for Sharks rugby now with how we played in the CC. Light and day.

    And don’t come with this “one can’t compare Super Rugby to the Currie Cup” excuse.

  • Comment 19, posted at 07.07.14 10:28:57 by rhineshark Reply
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  • I don’t think all is lost. I did not watch the game, but always felt there is a chance that we will lose this one, even with our mighty springboks at the helm. Coming weekend we play the last game of the round, so the sharks will know exactly what needs to be done to achieve their goals.

  • Comment 20, posted at 07.07.14 10:30:33 by bokbok Reply

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  • I just wish these bottom 2/3 teams of the Cheetahs, Stormers and Lions could have produced these types of performances against NZ and AUS teams as well and not just in derbies.
    I’m not complaining. The Stormers and Cheetahs are playing GREAT rugby at the moment, just wish they could rather have dashed the playoff hopes of overseas sides and not their own countrymen’s.

  • Comment 21, posted at 07.07.14 10:31:16 by Blue Centurion Reply

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  • @Blue Centurion (Comment 21) : That’s what we normally do when we have the reverse implosion year. Play like absolute plonkers until we’ve got next to zero chance of making the playoffs, then suddenly play decent rugby.

  • Comment 22, posted at 07.07.14 10:34:24 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @Blue Centurion (Comment 21) : Yup,old story that. I haven’t seen a Cheetah team defend that well this entire year.

  • Comment 23, posted at 07.07.14 10:38:39 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Blue Centurion (Comment 21) : Were the Stormers great on the weekend. They beat the Bulls who were super bad, yes, but were they really that good. I dont think so.

  • Comment 24, posted at 07.07.14 10:44:23 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 19) : The biggest problem is the number of turnovers the Sharks conceded per game through the season – I believe on average the highest of any super team this season. You can’t finish off opportunities if you cannot at least hold onto the ball most of the time. Cut down on the turnovers and the results will come.

  • Comment 25, posted at 07.07.14 10:44:51 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Stormers, Cheetahs and Lions have played dead all season long against overseas opposition! Yassie what happened to charity beginning at home? Cobus, Pat, Lwazi, Frans, JP, Tonderai, SP.

  • Comment 26, posted at 07.07.14 10:45:24 by uShaka Reply

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  • I do think losing our two flyhalves early in the season really hampered us but im probably more disappointed in Jake White.Swiel was a terrible choice and cost us dearly.And apart from that I couldn’t see where Jake brought in any creative nouse regarding player selection or management.He just played the first team into the ground till they couldn’t play anymore!!!

  • Comment 27, posted at 07.07.14 10:45:33 by tigershark Reply

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  • @tigershark (Comment 27) : And now he blames the losses on overplayed and tired players??

  • Comment 28, posted at 07.07.14 10:47:46 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 24) : I didn’t think they were that bad. In their last match they also beat the Sharks in Durban right before the break.

  • Comment 29, posted at 07.07.14 10:53:17 by Blue Centurion Reply

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  • @rhineshark (Comment 19) :

    By including the last sentence in your argument, I know I don’t even have to mention it, you already know it is a factor.

    Not that I can’t agree that I don’t like the way we’ve been playing since about round 5.

  • Comment 30, posted at 07.07.14 10:59:57 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Blue Centurion (Comment 21) : That’s a great observation! Now combine it with Johan Coetzee’s piece over at Supersport (http://www.supersport.com/rugby/blogs/johan-coetzee/No_praise_please_were_South_African) and you start seeing the strange psychology involved in SA rugby.

    I think the Sharks have made great strides this year in their professionalism but I reckon a “kop-dokter” could still add immense value. The above doesn’t, by any means, absolve the coaches of all responsibility but motivating your players if you’re coaching an SA side must be a pretty frustrating undertaking.

    Based on the fact though that the Sharks have a habit of saving their best performances for times when their backs are against the wall, our current situation could strangely be our best bet at making a run for the trophy (if the legs can last).

  • Comment 31, posted at 07.07.14 11:03:19 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 31) : It will be interesting what Jake does for the Stormers game. At least by the 11:30 on Saturday the Sharks will know what (if still possible) they need to do to get back into second place.

  • Comment 32, posted at 07.07.14 11:08:14 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Blue Centurion (Comment 21) :

    interesting to note that between the stormers , Bulls , Lions and cheetahs , SA teams have beaten over seas teams 9 times this year , with the Lions providing 3 of those victories

  • Comment 33, posted at 07.07.14 11:08:19 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @tigershark (Comment 27) :

    I don’t think Swiel was ready for SS rugby.

    Heimar may have been a better option, but I think we needed a kicker for the match, as Steyn could not take that responsibility with his knee.

    Why there was no 10/12 cover is a little baffling. We didn’t need to convert penalties in the second half, but rather needed to start scoring tries. I think Steyn at 10 and Heimar/Esterhuizen/ Jordaan at 12, would have helped our cause.

    I was rooting for Tim, but his lateral movement and weak passing game cost us space and opportunities that we couldn’t afford to throw away in this game.

    What’s really strange is, every time Tim confidently takes on the line, he looks really dangerous, but he just didn’t seem to have the confidence or experience to do that in this match. I wouldn’t want to blame it all on that one selection, but I really don’t think it helped.

    Based on what I’ve seen of Tim, I’m getting more and more frustrated with what we lost because we bought him.

    Robert du Preeze looked like a strong confident player (that came up through the Sharks ranks), why you wouldn’t rather back him is a little confusing to me.

    Hopefully Tim can pull things together in lower tier comps and prove me wrong, but I don’t have a good feeling about that.

  • Comment 34, posted at 07.07.14 11:09:30 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 30) : :grin:

    Why is it a factor? The basic principles of rugby apply no matter what level you play at.

    We’re not even playing the same kind of rugby. Why do we see lots of offloads, playing into space, etc in the CC, but come SR those things (which, incidentally, are constantly done well by the other leading SR sides) disappear from our game until we have to chase the game or the playoffs?

    This happens year after year after year…..yawn….after year…

  • Comment 35, posted at 07.07.14 11:10:23 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 25) : We’ve all seen that as a problem throughout the competition, but the coach and players can’t fix it?

  • Comment 36, posted at 07.07.14 11:11:50 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 31) :

    How bout the guy that works with Novak Djocovic to come and help the Sharks with a better mentality.

    That guy wins more matches on pure durability than he does on skill (although he is obviously also a very good player as well).

    Guys like Federer, Nadal, Djocovic don’t just win because of their talent, I’ve seen players with just us much if not more skill and talent than these players (Andy Murray being one of them), but when the pressure is on, they start to crumble.

    I played tennis in my school years and I can tell you it’s the toughest sport to stay composed in. There’s nowhere to hide. Not like in teams sports.

    I’ve always thought the Sharks, who on paper should have won more titles, but just always inevitably seem to crumble, would gain a lot from talking to one of these players or whoever is working on their mental toughness.

  • Comment 37, posted at 07.07.14 11:16:58 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 33) :

    3 for the lions
    3 for the stormers
    2 for the Bulls
    1 for the Cheetahs

  • Comment 38, posted at 07.07.14 11:20:16 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Blue Centurion (Comment 29) : No doubt they are playing better than at the beginning of the season but Im not convinced that they are now all of a sudden playing this brilliant rugby. The Bulls were really horrendous, especially in that first half at Newlands.

  • Comment 39, posted at 07.07.14 11:20:38 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 35) :

    It’s simple more space, more time, more opportunities.

    You have to earn the right to go wide. It’s not like the Sharks haven’t gone wide at all this year, there skill level has just let them down once they have done this. We always seem to lose the ball when we do create some space to move the ball around.

  • Comment 40, posted at 07.07.14 11:20:46 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 34) : I do agree; Tim has lots of potential, but maybe not at super rugby yet. Yes, he can attack the gap and has some serious pace, but unfortunately he failed to take control of the game the way Lambie or Zeilinga would. Our back line just looks more settled and composed with either one there. Really hope that Lambie can make a return this weekend, even if just from the bench.
    Another thing that irks me, is the way the bottom teams all of the sudden turn up when derbies are involved. To me it seems that our SA teams are more motivated not to finish last, than to win the tournament. What is up with that?? :x

  • Comment 41, posted at 07.07.14 11:23:24 by Another Nick Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 32) : We can be certain of one thing, no matter what he does in that game, he’s going to be pissing off some segment of Sharks fans.

  • Comment 42, posted at 07.07.14 11:23:47 by vanmartin Reply
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  • I think we should just agree that we’re all a bunch of headcases. There’s just no other outcome after years of supporting our beloved soft in the head Sharks. Our only salvation is to accept that we’re a very good Currie Cup side, but nothing more.

    Voila! No more thumbsucking in a foetal position in the corner of the lounge behind the lamp every year.

  • Comment 43, posted at 07.07.14 11:24:15 by rhineshark Reply
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  • As a big fan of Lambie and Zeilinga I think we are being way too harsh on Swiel. The poor guy got off to a shaky start against the Bulls and then although being with the squad was really never given any proper opportunity to regain his confidence. In my view he was thrown to the wolves and is copping a lot of flack that should be aimed at others.

  • Comment 44, posted at 07.07.14 11:29:59 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 42) : Personally I would pick the first choice team to start, but if after 11:30 there is very little chance of reaching second place, I would start as many of the reserves as I can.

  • Comment 45, posted at 07.07.14 11:30:42 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 43) : There is that option or alternatively you make a conscious and constant decision that your happiness in not determined by a Sharks win or loss. You can then still maintain high expectations for your team without having to deal with severe disappointment when those expectations aren’t met. Any win simply becomes a bonus to your day, any loss is shrugged off. This is the best way, in my opinion, to enjoy any game of rugby or any sport for that matter.

  • Comment 46, posted at 07.07.14 11:33:05 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 44) : I tend to agree.

  • Comment 47, posted at 07.07.14 11:33:50 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 38) : Interesting! Also I note that the Bulls, this year have won 0 away games. A poor year. Some new ideas needed for SA teams, because something is not working anymore.

  • Comment 48, posted at 07.07.14 11:34:46 by Blue Centurion Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 37) : Try playing cricket, fielding on the boundary and dropping a sitter right in fornt of all the spectators, it just eats at you confidence and in cricket there is normally ample time to reflect on haw awful you were.

  • Comment 49, posted at 07.07.14 11:38:02 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 46) : Thanks Doc! How much do I owe you? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 50, posted at 07.07.14 12:28:13 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 50) : You’re a fellow Sharks supporter, your money is no good here :grin:

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 51) : :grin:

  • Comment 52, posted at 07.07.14 12:38:55 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 46) : In all seriousness, though, up until about 10 years ago a crappy loss like we saw against the Stormers would bugger up my entire weekend. :shock:

  • Comment 53, posted at 07.07.14 12:46:46 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 53) : Same here bud! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 54, posted at 07.07.14 12:58:25 by vanmartin Reply
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  • i think we are all desperately hoping to reach that nirvanic state where a Sharks loss no longer destroys our entire week.

    I’m a long way from there. Hell, I didn’t even watch the game on Saturday and I’m depressed.

  • Comment 55, posted at 07.07.14 13:02:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • :lol:

  • Comment 56, posted at 07.07.14 13:22:41 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 55) : I like to approach it this way: would I still want to support the Sharks even if they never win Super Rugby? If yes, what is the best way to do so and preserve my sanity/happiness/state of contentment?

    It reeks of pessimism at first glance but it’s forced me to confront some of my “issues” regarding the Sharks (and the Boks and the Green Bay Packers :grin: ).

  • Comment 57, posted at 07.07.14 13:24:17 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 55) : :lol:

    A German friend of ours is a train nut. Yesterday he invited us to go on a train trip through a beautiful wine region here, called Rheinhessen. We would get off at various little stations (some of which were nothing more than strips of grass), walk around stunning little towns and sample the local wines.

    I completely forgot about rugby for the entire day and didn’t even know that the Proteas played Sri Lanka.

    Highly recommended therapy, although I realise that UK train fares could dump one back into depression. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 58, posted at 07.07.14 13:27:48 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 58) : well, I spent my Saturday evening on a cricket pitch, surrounded by children playing, while I drank beer with good friends.

    Still checked my phone every five minutes, but had a good time all the same.

  • Comment 59, posted at 07.07.14 13:46:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 59) : Luckily I have mobile data switched off on my phone, otherwise things might have been different, but our German friends know that if Sky shows the rugby I ain’t going anywhere, so they only invite on Sundays. :grin:

  • Comment 60, posted at 07.07.14 13:54:35 by rhineshark Reply
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  • congratulations .. you now all have the same expectations as a Lions supporter :p

  • Comment 61, posted at 07.07.14 14:19:47 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 61) : :lol:

  • Comment 62, posted at 07.07.14 14:22:25 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 61) : My high expectations for the Sharks remain very firmly intact and probably will do so forever. I’m just not crushed if they aren’t met. I suspect it’s much the same for you though?

  • Comment 63, posted at 07.07.14 15:00:24 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 63) :

    would be more hope than expectations ..

    Maybe if the Lions can hang onto players for a season or 2 , we might improve … waiting to see who is staying and who is leaving . But we will see ..

  • Comment 64, posted at 07.07.14 15:13:11 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 46) : easier said than done when you are constantly surrounded by bulls supporters :evil:

  • Comment 65, posted at 07.07.14 15:14:35 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 64) : You guys expecting a lot of departures? I know of Franco van der Merwe and Elton Jantjies leaving. Anyone else?

  • Comment 66, posted at 07.07.14 15:15:32 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 65) : I feel your pain, I too live on the wrong side of the “Boerewors Curtain” :grin:

  • Comment 67, posted at 07.07.14 15:21:45 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 66) :

    Elton will be back for SR next year .

    Stories doing the rounds are stokkies Hannekom and Willie Du Plessis to the Cheetahs . And yes Franco over seas .

    Other than that , nothing i heard of . but waiting for final confirmation

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 49) :

    If I missed my first serve in Tennis I had to either float the second (or I would certainly miss it), or just go for a first again and hope for the best.

    My opponents never won matches, I always gave it away with unforced errors.

    In team games I didn’t have that problem, but then the scoreboard pressure isn’t so obvious in team sports. And I usually played in a second team that managed to lose more games and only win a couple we weren’t supposed to (we were the Cheetahs not the Sharks).

    I was just thinking. There was definitely moments, even in team sports, where I would have been able to do better if the stress of a certain moment didn’t get to me as much.

    I admire guys like Djocovic. I could never come back from dropping 3 match points.

    And it seems when the Sharks start to realise that they are getting close to a big achievement, they also seem to crumble.

    The Stormers and Cheetahs game definitely have a very familiar feeling to it, the all to familiar Sharks choke.

    The Proteas also need a good Grand Slam Champion mental coach to help their choking.

  • Comment 69, posted at 07.07.14 15:30:45 by Letgo Reply
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  • I think we have a great chance of winning the comp. We will never ever win it as favourites, so this is actually brilliant. We are already written off so there is nothing more to lose. We have the players and we can win overseas. The Tahs are one or two games away from choking anyway. We have already dealt with choking so all the boys have to do now is remove the fingers from the poephols and win 4 or maybe 3 games of rugby. Dis my storie.

  • Comment 70, posted at 07.07.14 15:40:11 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 70) :

    That would be great, but I will be very surprised.

    And for goodness sake why do we have to make it so hard for ourselves.

    Never give up tough.

    What the hell, I’m all in. The Sharks to make it 3 more wins (note 3 including an overwhelming win against the Sormers), to at long last take this damn cup!

  • Comment 71, posted at 07.07.14 15:49:39 by Letgo Reply
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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 70) : I share a very similar view. A home semi or final might not be as big an advantage to the Sharks as we’d like to believe but then we do have the travel factor to contend with.

  • Comment 72, posted at 07.07.14 15:58:37 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 68) : Really hope Elton finds his mojo overseas.

  • Comment 73, posted at 07.07.14 15:59:45 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Finally a KZN side wins something. Just got back from watching the KZN Academy side beat SWD 32 – 18, and what an entertaining game it was. Not knowing much about KZN schools rugby anymore I
    can only assume that the KZN Craven Week is very strong because there were some guys playing here that just ooze talent.

    KZN country districts (drew with Namibia) 22 all.

  • Comment 74, posted at 07.07.14 16:06:43 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 69) : These top tennis players are something else. Is there another individual sport where 4 time a year you have millions of people so up close and personal and living through every emotion with you. Truely amazing and then they perform year in and year out.

  • Comment 75, posted at 07.07.14 16:10:54 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Some news on Lambie, Beast and Jordaan is that they are going for scans today. That might explain their none selection last week.

  • Comment 76, posted at 07.07.14 17:53:27 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Rhineshark COMMENT 4.That’s exactly how I felt on Sat and even right up today.
    Tim Swiel managed all his kicks but he was useless in defence!
    Fed Z should have been No 10. I thought that before the game. Swiel should have been in the Sharks XV side and Fred in Sharks’ side against Cheetahs. That would have made a huge difference!

  • Comment 77, posted at 07.07.14 20:10:48 by [email protected] Reply

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  • Ja Rob sad but true!!! Sharks had it in their hands to finish top but fucked it up not once but twice!!! Now again we must hope for another team to lose!!!!

  • Comment 78, posted at 07.07.14 22:21:01 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 59) : that sounds like a whole lot of fun. Nice to play with the kids every now and then.

  • Comment 79, posted at 07.07.14 22:25:40 by JD Reply
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  • Tim is a disaster at 10. Move that soft boy to 15. How many more games must he cost us? Letting go of a talent like Du Preez was a big mistake. Blame Jake 100% for the loss. Fred should have started that game. Starting a game without Paul at 13 is also a sign of a lack of vision in my opinion. Him and Sithole can alternate that position depending on our attacking intent. That game was all about and you need to have Paul to successfully pull that off.

  • Comment 80, posted at 08.07.14 01:15:32 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • Any truth to the rumour Andre Esterhuizen is on his way to wp, please say it isn’t so

  • Comment 81, posted at 08.07.14 06:30:03 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • And Kyle cooper

  • Comment 82, posted at 08.07.14 06:31:29 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • @RuckingFun (Comment 81) : @RuckingFun (Comment 82) :

    That would truly suck!

  • Comment 83, posted at 08.07.14 07:46:56 by Letgo Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 80) : Paul was injured.

  • Comment 84, posted at 08.07.14 08:00:55 by vanmartin Reply
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  • A weeks rest would have critical for our title chances. Without it, our chances are slim.

    @Windgat101 (Comment 8) : Did you pick your nickname after Saturday’s game? Surely, you couldn’t have called yourself Windgat for any other part of the season except Saturday…

  • Comment 85, posted at 08.07.14 08:15:51 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 85) :

    Yah, I would say we would have to win and get 4 tries this weekend.

    We just have to go all out and earn that weeks rest for all our players.

  • Comment 86, posted at 08.07.14 08:45:11 by Letgo Reply
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  • Could we be more even with the Crusaders …

    W,L,D,PD,Bp,Ttl
    Cru 15,10,5,0,97,6,46
    Sharks 15,10,5,0,89,6,46

    And then both teams are playing a derby this week…

  • Comment 87, posted at 08.07.14 08:57:26 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 87) :

    I really wish the ref would have kept that advantage or the Sharks would have kept the ball in play.

    Would have made a massive difference.

    We’ll have to hope for another good result against the Crusaders for the Sharks this weekend.

  • Comment 88, posted at 08.07.14 08:59:04 by Letgo Reply
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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 70) : Bring it on I say! At last some positivity on this blog.

  • Comment 89, posted at 08.07.14 09:03:49 by bokbok Reply

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  • @RuckingFun (Comment 81) : he’s still contracted until the end of 2015, but we might have some work to do to keep him after that.

  • Comment 90, posted at 08.07.14 10:47:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • @RuckingFun (Comment 82) : the way Kyle has been treated, could you blame him if he jumped at the first reasonable offer he got (as long as it came with an even chance of a starting spot)?

    Not sure there’s anything in the WP story, but surely he would be a starter at the Cheetahs if he went there?

    His wife has an EU passport as well…

  • Comment 91, posted at 08.07.14 10:49:07 by robdylan Reply
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  • At the beginning of the season when the Sharks hype was at its peak, I predicted that the Sharks will once again be all downcast come the season end. I was told that things were different, because the JW and JS combination was so pro!

    Sharks had a awesomely talented squad, a favourable draw, with something like 11 games at home on the trot. Yet due to a stupid conservative game plan, of kick and chase, the Sharks have failed to garner crucial bonus points.

    Sorry, but those that were so quick to tell me to F off when I predicted this, can put it in their pipes and smoke it!1

  • Comment 92, posted at 08.07.14 10:54:48 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 70) : Bud you are delusional if you think the Tahs are a choke away. They are playing some sublime rugby! In fact the Sharks have been the chokers!

  • Comment 93, posted at 08.07.14 11:02:35 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 92) : Ha ha, look what the cat dragged in.

  • Comment 94, posted at 08.07.14 11:07:11 by MysticShark Reply
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  • @MysticShark (Comment 94) : What, someone from a high riding 2013 team that is stone last in the competition (even behind a team that didnt even play Super rugby last year) and whose team is loaded with Boks. And just for good measure whose team are almost en masse deciding to jump ship.

    Despite all that our Cheetah friend is actually 100% correct. :razz:

  • Comment 95, posted at 08.07.14 11:16:50 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 92) : I can’t recall anyone telling you to F off?

  • Comment 96, posted at 08.07.14 11:43:06 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 95) : My team is stone last, and for the most have been terrible in defence. No doubt about it. As for jumping ship en masse, it is not restricted to the cheetahs, its just hitting them hardest, as they are the least able to compete with overseas offers.

  • Comment 97, posted at 08.07.14 12:18:28 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 96) : Not in those exact words, but it wa the gist of it. I was keen on the Sharks winning the trophy as well, when it became clear that my team was destined to plummet to the bottom of the log. their last few matched have been dour, and they were lucky to win a few, playing really bad. And the cracks were showing weeks ago.

  • Comment 98, posted at 08.07.14 12:20:19 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 92) :

    If we told you to F off, it was probably because we knew what you were warning us about were probably true, but we didn’t want to believe it.

  • Comment 99, posted at 08.07.14 12:44:46 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 99) : Lol, there is that bud!

  • Comment 100, posted at 08.07.14 13:18:10 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 98) : I think you may be guilty of overplaying those exchanges for dramatic effect but I will of course apologise if you can prove me wrong :grin:

  • Comment 101, posted at 08.07.14 13:35:57 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 101) : Spoilsport!!

  • Comment 102, posted at 08.07.14 15:49:08 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 31) : @Blue Centurion (Comment 21) : its the cult of the CC, it hasn’t escaped the mindset of these bottom feeders that they palying SR hence the bend over to foreign teams but smash local teams,but also if u do not have a proper 9 & 10 on the field what do you expect,added to that the low skill level and total lack of mental grit

  • Comment 103, posted at 08.07.14 19:32:43 by benji Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 103) : Bollocks! Did the Cheetahs really play that well, or are the Sharks just uber crap at the moment? This fallacy about SA teams lifting their game against each other is rubbish! More likely the fact that they play against each other so regularly, that they are more competitive.

    Do you think its any different in the NZ conference, or the Aussie conference for that matter.

    If the Sharks can beat the Crusaders in Christchurch, how can they possibly have a gripe if they lose against the bottom of the log team in Bloem, where they have had fair success in the past??

    Are the Cheetahs really to blame, the Lions or the Stormers for that matter, or should the blame not lie squarely on the Sharks players shoulders??

  • Comment 104, posted at 08.07.14 19:44:41 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @benji (Comment 103) : Add to my comment that last season the Cheetahs had a better record against overseas opposition tha local sides, so it rubbishes your claim in this regard.

    Sharks have been showing cracks for weeks now, and the wheels have finally fallen off starting with their loss against the Stormers.

  • Comment 105, posted at 08.07.14 19:47:16 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 105) : @KingCheetah (Comment 104) : about the Sharks players the last part of my comment concurs with you but only last year for a number of reasons did your team perform otherwise not & now SARU want to add another team,now 4 locals teams will anchor the bottom of the log,eish

  • Comment 106, posted at 08.07.14 20:02:24 by benji Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 106) : my view is your team performed cause they played proper structured helter skelter rugby backed by good defence and lost the CC mindset,but this year ,same old same old

  • Comment 107, posted at 08.07.14 20:06:31 by benji Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 104) : Actually there are at least 3 factors at play:

    1. Goosen delivered a masterclass in tactical kicking. We had no answer for him. Not sure who got man of the match but he was mine.

    2. The Sharks were poor in many facets: defense, breakdown and finishing to point out the obvious ones.

    3. SA teams may outplay each other at times but the certainly don’t intimidate each other like foreign teams do. Definite mental factor at play when facing foreign teams.

  • Comment 108, posted at 08.07.14 20:27:05 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 108) : I agree & that is the difference when you have a proper 10 on the field, stats now read TS played at 10 three times and the Sharks three shockers,but real shocker for me was choosing him at this stage of SR,madness

  • Comment 109, posted at 08.07.14 20:49:32 by benji Reply
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  • Well firstly let me say, if I have two choose between two extremes i.e. being completely negative and completely positive, then I prefer the positive… Being, completely negative, you might never be disappointed, but you would also never have any hope and what joy can you get from that.

    Secondly, as I have mentioned previously, a true Sharks supporter always believes his / her team will always win and I am of opinion that a home final is looming for us…

  • Comment 110, posted at 08.07.14 23:52:15 by BluffShark Reply

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  • Yea I think that was a very poor exchange in players.. Tim for Du Preez.

  • Comment 111, posted at 08.07.14 23:58:56 by BluffShark Reply

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  • Personally I also think Charl is better than Cobus

  • Comment 112, posted at 09.07.14 00:10:35 by BluffShark Reply

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