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No Boks for Currie Cup


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 31 Jul 2014 at 09:08
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In an interview with the Sharksrugby website, Cell C Sharks CEO John Smit has revealed that the side will have to make do without a bevy of stars during this year’s Currie Cup.

According to Smit, the participating teams and SARU have reached an agreement that will see all contracted Springbok players withdrawn for the duration of the Currie Cup competition. This is a change from previous years, where teams could expect their Boks to return once the Rugby Championship had run its course, typically in time for the knockout rounds.

In addition to contracted Boks, any non contracted players who are selected for the Rugby Championship will also miss out on Currie Cup action.

The Sharks will definitely have to make do without Beast Mtawarira, both du Plessis brothers, Marcell Coetzee, Willem Alberts and Pat Lambie, with Ryan Kankowski, JP Pietersen and Frans Steyn also unavailable due to Japanese commitments. There’s also a distinct possibility that the likes of Cobus Reinach could receive a call up.

Smit also confirmed the signings of Conrad Hoffmann and Lionel Cronje.



100 Comments

  • Good call giving the guys a rest. I would however like to see Lambie get some matches under his belt if the boks does not use him in the rugby champs. He needs some game time.

  • Comment 1, posted at 31.07.14 09:14:32 by PTAShark Reply
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  • @PTAShark (Comment 1) : Let’s just hope we stick with the non-Boks throughout the campaign. Whenever we re-introduce our “superstars” for the CC playoffs we seem to get our arses handed to us.

  • Comment 2, posted at 31.07.14 09:18:46 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 2) : I think rule states that they can not play at all even at the end.

  • Comment 3, posted at 31.07.14 09:20:42 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Good move to give our boys a break and also to bring through the next crop of talent.

  • Comment 4, posted at 31.07.14 09:27:08 by StevieS Reply
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  • This is a good initiative for a number of reasons.

    1. The Boks get a well deserved rest between the end of the Rugby Championship and the end of year tour.

    2. The Currie Cup players get to play a full season and are rewarded for good performances by getting to play in the semis and final should the team get that far.

    3. Young up and coming players are exposed to big match situations which will hopefully develop that elusive BMT that the Sharks are sorely missing.

    I can’t see how thing could be a bad thing, sure the likes of the Lions may do better than the other unions but this is an opportunity for player development.

  • Comment 5, posted at 31.07.14 09:38:20 by Jacques Venter Reply

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  • @StevieS (Comment 4) : Fantastic news!!! Now the Boks can have a proper rest before the EOYT and the Currie Cup can be used to give the next level of players a chance to fight for a shot at Super Rugby next year. Fingers crossed that we uncover another Lewies who goes on to make the Bok team next year :mrgreen:

  • Comment 6, posted at 31.07.14 09:38:43 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @Jacques Venter (Comment 5) : Indeed. Think this is a great move for SA rugby.

  • Comment 7, posted at 31.07.14 09:41:30 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @Jacques Venter (Comment 5) : For sure!! We’ve overplayed our top Boks year in and year out and now somebody’s finally caught a wake up!!

  • Comment 8, posted at 31.07.14 09:41:31 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 3) : Great decision to change the rules!

  • Comment 9, posted at 31.07.14 09:42:20 by rhineshark Reply

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  • Now we talking,best decision ever,now Sharks can bring in Kop dr & a proper coach and work on the youngsters and hopefully the youngsters are backed and we donfind old has beens like JB keeping new talent out,and so what if Sharks don’t win the CC its not that important anymore anyway,bring on the youngsters with BMT and proper skills

  • Comment 10, posted at 31.07.14 09:52:55 by benji Reply

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  • Saw the Bulls team for the friendly against the Pumas,JJ is the only regular springbok there and this might mean he is not in the Bok squad and we might lose Jordaan/S’bura to the Boks :???: will our team be strong enough?

    We look a bit short at loose forward,lock and now the centre might be a problem and add the possibility of Cobus getting a call :shock:

  • Comment 11, posted at 31.07.14 09:54:13 by Chippa Reply

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  • With this news we should still be able to defend our title! COMFORTABLY!!!

  • Comment 12, posted at 31.07.14 10:03:29 by R Hayward Reply

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  • @Chippa (Comment 11) : Ungerer at 9, Terra, Botes and someone like Kleinhans in the loosies, Esterhuizen and Fisher in the centres, Chavanga and Odwa at wing with Van Tonder at fullback. For locks we will most probably have Lewies, that new guy and that old guy (haha sorry can’t get their names now) and in the front row we should be well stocked with Thomas, Cooper and Adriaanse the most best bet for starters with Hadebe, Chadwick and Stevens as backup.

  • Comment 13, posted at 31.07.14 10:07:54 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • Good move, but it could also have some unfortunate unintended consequences for all the franchises.

    in the case of the Sharks, take Pat Lambie. He will not be allowed to play Currie Cup, but will he get any game time in the Rugby Champs? He could spend the whole Currie Cup season warming the bench while what he desperately needs is game-time. Similarly Sbura and Reinach could get call up as standby players for the Boks, will be unfortunate if they miss out on the whole Currie Cup, I’m sure other teams have similar situations.

  • Comment 14, posted at 31.07.14 10:17:40 by jonnow Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 13) : What’s wrong with SP at fullback?

  • Comment 15, posted at 31.07.14 10:18:35 by jonnow Reply

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  • @Chippa (Comment 11) : It’s a good thing if we’re stripped of some of our regulars because they will come back as better players and it also forces us to give new players a chance.

    Lewies got his chance last year because of injuries and look what he’s gone on to do. The same thing happened with Frans Steyn when he was a youngster.

  • Comment 16, posted at 31.07.14 10:28:49 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 13) : We have Wentzel, Esterhuizen, Lewies and Astle (?) at lock. We’ll have Heimar Williams, Sithole, Jordaan and Esterhuizen as our centres. I think that Fisher will be used as a fullback.

  • Comment 17, posted at 31.07.14 10:34:44 by ChrisS Reply
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  • Great news,give the guys that did the grafting through the season the chance to lift the cup!
    1. Chadwick
    2. Cooper
    3. Adriaanse
    4. Oosthuizen
    5. Lewies
    6. Botes
    7. ? (Didn’t want to just type in a name,suggestions?)
    8. Tera
    9. Reinach (Ungerer)
    10.Zeilinga
    11.Chavanga
    12.Esterhuizen
    13.Sithole(Jordaan)
    14.Ndungane
    15.Marais

  • Comment 18, posted at 31.07.14 10:34:53 by BarendL Reply

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  • @jonnow (Comment 14) : I hope that they make it a requirement that you have to have played for the Boks during the RC before you’re not allowed to return for the Currie Cup. Lambie definitely needs game time!! He was very poor during the final and needs to get his confidence back up.

  • Comment 19, posted at 31.07.14 10:37:20 by ChrisS Reply
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  • I like

  • Comment 20, posted at 31.07.14 10:37:51 by stevovo Reply

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  • @BarendL (Comment 18) : Kleinhans or Johan Meyer.

  • Comment 21, posted at 31.07.14 10:38:30 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @ChrisS (Comment 21) : They any good?Have heard of them,but have not seen them play.

    I cant wait for this CC to start,cant wait to see Zeilinga and Esterhuizen,believe we might run a bit more under BMH and have Chavanga in the mix alot more…even SP should join the line more often!Am I the only one thinking that its a 50/50 call wether Lambie gets a call-up? But then again,he is a contracted Bok,so is automatically excluded?

  • Comment 22, posted at 31.07.14 10:44:48 by BarendL Reply

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  • @BarendL (Comment 22) : Kleinhans is very good. He’s a fetcher. I haven’t seen Meyer yet but I’ve heard good things.

    The CC is a chance for us to see more of them and see if they have the potential to play Super Rugby next year.

  • Comment 23, posted at 31.07.14 11:00:22 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @BarendL (Comment 22) : If I were Heyneke I’d give Lambie some game time to get fit and to get his confidence back.

  • Comment 24, posted at 31.07.14 11:01:09 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @ChrisS (Comment 24) : Problem is that playing a test in the rugby championship isn’t the place for players to be given game time to get their confidence back. That should be happening in domestic compos like the CC. A test flyhalf should take to the field at the top of his game.

  • Comment 25, posted at 31.07.14 11:05:16 by jonnow Reply

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  • @jonnow (Comment 25) : Sorry, I wasn’t clear. I meant that Lambie should get some game time in the CC before being called up into the Bok Squad. I agree with you 100%!

  • Comment 26, posted at 31.07.14 11:07:52 by ChrisS Reply
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  • Bull shit decision. How are the likes of Pat meant to get back to match fitness? This means he would have played only a handful of games the entire year. So the likes of Sbura will spend the rest of the year carrying tackle bags. This rule should only be limited to regular starters in the Bok side. Just given WP or the Lions the CC title.

  • Comment 27, posted at 31.07.14 11:08:20 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 27) : That’s what I said earlier on. You should be excluded from playing CC if you’ve actually played for the Boks during the RC. Otherwise some guys will play no rugby for 4 months!

  • Comment 28, posted at 31.07.14 11:12:23 by ChrisS Reply
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  • I fully get that the Boks need rest etc but its a sad sad day when the Currie Cup is reduced to a tournament we use to play up and coming youngsters and see how they fare. This should be the premier comp is SA and only the best should play (yes accounting for giving guys a chance etc etc). Dont turn the Currie Cup into the Vodacom Cup please!!

  • Comment 29, posted at 31.07.14 11:22:12 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 27) : @ChrisS (Comment 28) : I guess that is the SARU MO…make a decision without properly planning what it actually means. They should have sat down and gone through all of the scenarios and thought about each individual and then make a decision.There are too many questions that can arise from just drawing a line and dividing into two groups,by end of year we could have a situation where Pat has only played 8 games in total!

    With that said,I also thought its a great opportunity for the younger guys,but the implications it has for Boks who have been sidelined for a while could be devastating,especially when we have confidence players only going to get 2min at the end of each game!

  • Comment 30, posted at 31.07.14 11:23:38 by BarendL Reply

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  • This should make this CC very competitive and close….

    Just hope it won’t be creating a gap between International players (ie. SR players) and domestic comp. players.

  • Comment 31, posted at 31.07.14 11:46:43 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @BarendL (Comment 30) : That’s a very good point! Hopefully they take each situation on its merits. Fringe players must get game time in order to get into form and challenge the first choice players.

  • Comment 32, posted at 31.07.14 11:47:58 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 31) : SR is the leveller. It gives the young guys a chance to compete against the international players.

  • Comment 33, posted at 31.07.14 11:48:55 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @BarendL (Comment 18) : Isn t that the team who lost against the Kings?!

  • Comment 34, posted at 31.07.14 12:23:41 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • Good move by Saru but bad for guys like Lambie who just returned from injury and will on the bench during the championships.

  • Comment 35, posted at 31.07.14 12:49:02 by sazito Reply

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  • Good news!

  • Comment 36, posted at 31.07.14 12:52:56 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @jonnow (Comment 15) : Haven’t been impressed by him in the last couple of games, plus I would like to see Van Tonder and Fisher get game time as well.

  • Comment 37, posted at 31.07.14 13:03:11 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 34) : Might well be,but seeing as the contracted Boks and the players selected for the Boks aren’t allowed to play,I guess not alot of variation exist outside of Thomas,Wentzel,Stevens,Hoffman,Cronje,Fisher and the like.
    I wonder if BmH will give young DuPreez an opportunity?

  • Comment 38, posted at 31.07.14 13:48:54 by BarendL Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 37) : @jonnow (Comment 15) : clueless,runs when he should kick and kicks when he should run and always gets nailed in the middle of his dance routine

  • Comment 39, posted at 31.07.14 14:22:55 by benji Reply

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  • @benji (Comment 39) : Sadly that is true. I dearly would like to see what the youngsters can do, plus we now have Lionel as well, who has never been too bad and might have picked up some tricks in Jailbird Island

  • Comment 40, posted at 31.07.14 14:29:47 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @Comment13,14,15&16. It looks like Sithole/Jordaan will be called up as JJ is not there and I think Lewies looks like the only no.5 lock to cover Victor so he might also be called up. Kleinhans is not that physical for no.7

  • Comment 41, posted at 31.07.14 14:56:52 by Chippa Reply

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  • @Chippa (Comment 41) : Tera at 7, Botes at 8 and Kleinhans at 6 will be my choice

  • Comment 42, posted at 31.07.14 14:58:16 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • If you don’t draw a line some coaches are always going to be unhappy and try to twist the situation to their advantage.

    I don’t think coaches will be happy (even if it is genuinely only for the best of the player), if one contracted Bok gets to play for a team and they don’t get any of their contracted Boks back.

    Although the best situation will be one where SARU has complete control of which players are available to play CC and which not, I don’t think coaches will agree to a system like that, therefore, the next best, where any players selected, cannot play at all.

    SARU has asked unions not to play the top Sprinbok players at the end of the season, but who’s going to be the first coach not too select their stars, when you know the other coach will be.

  • Comment 43, posted at 31.07.14 15:16:26 by Letgo Reply
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  • Aside from Lambie and Etzebeth (any other returning injured Boks), I think any player heavily involved in SS will benefit from sitting out CC.

    Maybe in this case (although I think Etzebeth will start as soon as he’s fit), SARU should asked unions for special permission to have these players find their fitness during CC. Once they are called up, they cannot join CC again.

    So Meyer may decide not to call Lambie and give him a chance to play some rugby – unless he regards him as high as I do, in which case he will be on the bench for the first game, get 30 min and start the next!!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 44, posted at 31.07.14 15:21:22 by Letgo Reply
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  • Also, I think they will have to give some clarity on “players selected for the Rugby Championship”, because they have massive squads that then gets reduced. Will any player involved with the Boks be excluded from CC?

  • Comment 45, posted at 31.07.14 15:22:37 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 45) :

    And if it is every player selected, will Heyneke Meyer be more careful in his thinking when selecting players. So, which players could maybe benefit from spending time playing CC, instead of training with the boks for a few weeks.

  • Comment 46, posted at 31.07.14 15:24:46 by Letgo Reply
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  • When will the Springbok squad be announced?

  • Comment 47, posted at 31.07.14 15:28:40 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 47) :

    I found it – 2 August, 30 Man Squad… if we include the 14 overseas based players (or something like that), the Currie Cup will actually still be pretty strong.

  • Comment 48, posted at 31.07.14 15:31:47 by Letgo Reply
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  • Where is everyone?

  • Comment 49, posted at 31.07.14 15:32:02 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 48) :

    To bad most of the Sharks players in the squad aren’t really part of the starting 15, and plenty aren’t even part of the match 23. That really makes losing them a little hard for me. Marcell and Lambie will probably not even see much bench time this year.

  • Comment 50, posted at 31.07.14 15:34:22 by Letgo Reply
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  • I’m bored… :|

  • Comment 51, posted at 31.07.14 15:36:05 by Letgo Reply
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  • Have way to much work to do to be waiting for a comment, but that’s what I’m doing now!

  • Comment 52, posted at 31.07.14 15:36:28 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 50) : I really hope Marcell gets a lot more game time in the RC. Even in that dreadful semi final he was the stand out player.

    In my totally unbiased :mrgreen: view he should start ahead of Flow. Anyone else think so?

  • Comment 53, posted at 31.07.14 15:45:05 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 53) :

    I think Flow is probably still a little better than Marcell, but I’m always going to go for a local player over an overseas based player – that edges it for me.

    With more game time Marcell will be one of the best soon, he’s younger and playing locally. Flow will be an excellent bench cover… although, I’d rather pick Kolisi or Oupa Mahoje on the bench – again, since they are playing locally.

  • Comment 54, posted at 31.07.14 15:57:48 by Letgo Reply
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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 40) : I agree Van Tonder should be given a chance at 15 he looked pretty solid,and I agree the centre combo

  • Comment 55, posted at 31.07.14 16:00:09 by benji Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 48) : Quite right. While in the past there was this huge gap when something like 12-15 players from one team gets called up, now it’s down to 6 or 7 players max.

  • Comment 56, posted at 31.07.14 16:01:31 by Blue Centurion Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 50) : At least they will be refreshed for next year and hopefully be injury free.

  • Comment 57, posted at 31.07.14 16:06:35 by Blue Centurion Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 54) : I think Marcell and Schalk would face off for the bench spot as the tried and trusted Alberts/Vermeulen and Flo combo will start. Kolisi and Oupa will be back up to the top 5.

  • Comment 58, posted at 31.07.14 16:15:31 by Blue Centurion Reply

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  • And all of a sudden, I’m alone. :|

  • Comment 59, posted at 31.07.14 16:16:14 by Blue Centurion Reply

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  • I am keen to see Fisher at 15. He is big and quick, and White rates him there.

    I am not quite convinced by either SP or van Tonder.

  • Comment 60, posted at 31.07.14 16:25:09 by Big Fish Reply
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  • This from Chris Rattue (NZ Herald) writing about the Commonwealth Games 7′s final:

    “South Africa were outstanding at the Games, with players such as Cecil Afrika and Seabelo Senatla setting the tournament alight – (the country) should be asking why it can’t incorporate more of this attitude and spark into the 15s, where they insist on retaining tactical Neanderthals like Jake White.”

    :lol:

  • Comment 61, posted at 31.07.14 16:59:38 by rhineshark Reply

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  • @rhineshark (Comment 61) : Bleh…kiwi journalists, what do they know, they’re still looking for Suzie :twisted:

  • Comment 62, posted at 31.07.14 17:14:02 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 62) : :lol:

  • Comment 63, posted at 31.07.14 22:03:08 by rhineshark Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 60) : ja SP seems ok but really not sure about van Tonder. Swiel could also get a chance at 15.

  • Comment 64, posted at 31.07.14 22:34:06 by JD Reply
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  • @Blue Centurion (Comment 59) : you will be alone if you want Schalk back in the Bok team!!!!!!

  • Comment 65, posted at 31.07.14 22:38:17 by JD Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 29) : sorry to say but ithe Currie cup will only be a little better than the Vodacom cup. The powers that be only worry about a six team Super rugby system.

  • Comment 66, posted at 31.07.14 22:41:53 by JD Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 61) : all I hear is blah blah blah cry sniff try to draw attention away for NZ losing!!!!!! Little island syndrome! !!!!

  • Comment 67, posted at 31.07.14 23:12:25 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 65) : Don’t get me wrong, I would prefer a guy like Marcell rather than Schalk, especially after this season, my comment was merely on what I think HM will do.

  • Comment 68, posted at 01.08.14 07:52:18 by Blue Centurion Reply

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  • Any one saw the draw of the CC this year? I see the Sharks play only away games against the WP and the Blue Bulls.

  • Comment 69, posted at 01.08.14 08:09:14 by Blue Centurion Reply

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  • @Blue Centurion (Comment 69) : Don’t think so. I know there is our traditional opening loss to Griekwas in Kimberley

  • Comment 70, posted at 01.08.14 08:11:36 by jonnow Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 67) : Everything but. The writer’s article hammered the NZ Sevens side for being bad losers!

    Sometimes I wish we had little island syndrome. Maybe we’d actually win more.

  • Comment 71, posted at 01.08.14 08:35:56 by rhineshark Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 66) : Unfortunate thing is you are 100% correct

  • Comment 72, posted at 01.08.14 09:12:22 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Blue Centurion (Comment 68) : I’m afraid you’re right, but how any coach can leave Marcel out this year I don’t know. He has had one superb performance after another and I don’t think has had a single let down. He can also cover all backrow positions comfortably now. Being a backrow player in SA is incredibly competitive, and I think this indicates Schalk’s international career is honestly at an end, or probably should be.

  • Comment 73, posted at 01.08.14 09:24:39 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Blue Centurion (Comment 68) : ja unfortunately that’s a whole other thing.

  • Comment 74, posted at 01.08.14 11:25:11 by JD Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 71) : ok sorry did not read the article. Ja to win more the SA mindset needs to chance from O/9 level. Playing the giant kids in a higher age level that’s more in line with their size will also help as the coaches can not just pick the big kid and play around him so skills must be improved! !!

  • Comment 75, posted at 01.08.14 11:29:27 by JD Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 73) : Isn’t Schalk heading to Japan or is he actually available to play in the RC? Well I know he’s signed a contract, just don’t know when it starts.

    Based on Marcells performance in the SR I also don’t see how he can be left out. Before I thought that Flow just pipped him but now I’m not so sure. Coming 5th overall in SR for turnovers despite missing the overseas tour, he has certainly developed massively in that department.

  • Comment 76, posted at 01.08.14 11:52:05 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 76) : I agree,this SR season defined him.he’s in a class of his own,devaststing player he has developed into

  • Comment 77, posted at 01.08.14 12:47:52 by benji Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 75) : My SA rugby gripe to a T! Before that changes, nothing will.

    Sorry, should’ve linked to the article. Here it is: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby-sevens/news/article.cfm?c_id=310&objectid=11301709

  • Comment 78, posted at 01.08.14 13:41:58 by rhineshark Reply

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  • Btw… I just read some of John Smit’s comments on Boks not being available for the CC. As far as I can tell, it is still just an agreement between unions and SARU. Seems like unions finally decided to go with SARU’s request not to play the Boks, but it is not being enforced by SARU.

    This makes me think there is still a distinct possibility that we might still see a few Boks play and coaches using their descretion of which Boks are “okay” to play and which not.

  • Comment 79, posted at 01.08.14 15:13:39 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 79) : That would make a lot of sense, let’s hope the coaches stick to the spirit of the agreement.

  • Comment 80, posted at 01.08.14 15:17:04 by jonnow Reply

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  • @jonnow (Comment 80) :

    Yip, I think the fact that JS came forward and announced that unions will have to make due without Boks will help alot in the follow through this year.

    Previous years it seemed like everyone was waiting for other coaches to be the first to “blink” – not knowing how the rest would act and if they would follow suite.

  • Comment 81, posted at 01.08.14 15:36:43 by Letgo Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 78) : ja I know a couple of those “champion” coaches that can’t win a game without one or two giants in their team.

  • Comment 82, posted at 01.08.14 17:19:34 by JD Reply
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  • Playing Boks who are returning from injury in the CC, to obtain some match fitness is definitely an option the coaches should have.

  • Comment 83, posted at 01.08.14 22:42:59 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Anyone else find it odd that Meyer is announcing his squad on a Saturday? Just taking a wild guess here but might we see Jacques Potgieter included and Meyer delayed the announcement as a courtesy to the Waratahs for SR final preparation? Probably way off the mark on this one :)

  • Comment 84, posted at 01.08.14 23:42:50 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Cobus Reinach just made the Bok squad…

  • Comment 85, posted at 02.08.14 13:54:59 by pastorshark Reply
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  • As did Beast, Bismarck, Jannie, Willem, Marcel, Patrick and Lwazi…

  • Comment 86, posted at 02.08.14 13:58:19 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 86) : and no Goosen in the squad?

  • Comment 87, posted at 02.08.14 14:31:01 by JD Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 84) : ja way off indeed. ;-)

  • Comment 88, posted at 02.08.14 14:32:09 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 87) : Yup…no Goosen in the squad…that’s probably fair, though…

  • Comment 89, posted at 02.08.14 15:08:22 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 88) : Yeah, was a long shot but he wouldn’t be such an odd selection this time around

  • Comment 90, posted at 02.08.14 16:36:50 by vanmartin Reply
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  • No Lewies :x

  • Comment 91, posted at 02.08.14 17:45:01 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 90) : ja but some good players in the Bok squad so he only had a really small chance of making the squad.

  • Comment 92, posted at 02.08.14 22:23:47 by JD Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 91) : ja with Eben fit again he will struggle to make the squad with the two old timers back in the mix.

  • Comment 93, posted at 02.08.14 22:27:10 by JD Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 89) : was a big surprise to me that wonder boy was not in the squad, but I’m glad if it gives Pat more game time.

  • Comment 94, posted at 02.08.14 22:29:34 by JD Reply
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  • I for one do not trust any move SARU makes and this model reeks of alternative reasons such as giving their favourite union a fighting chance against Vodacom squads etc.
    Already I can see the confusion as to what prohibits a player from taking part.
    Unions should decide how to employ their respective players as they wish. A proper rotation of players makes much more sense than keeping guys from taking part in this traditional competition.
    So many injured players need game time. Rather change the competition in such a way that skills are improved across all levels because that is what SA players need to succeed.

  • Comment 95, posted at 02.08.14 23:51:35 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 93) : Eben is a 4 lock, not sure whether Lood is a four lock, but I would imagine he is.

    Other than our senior citizen, we have no one else at 5….HM is holding out for PSdT to return from injury, same as he’s been doing all these years with Goosen.

    Lewies is the other 5 lock in SA currently….he should be with the Boks.

  • Comment 96, posted at 03.08.14 12:07:17 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 96) : yes I agree with you but don’t see HM picking him now as he will use Lood and Eben as backup for Vic.

  • Comment 97, posted at 03.08.14 12:24:43 by JD Reply
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  • Eben is a 4 lock, Flip can play 4 or 5 as can Lood, although I see him more as a 5 lock. Lood was excellent in the incoming tests and deserves his spot. Lewies is next in line in the 5 jersey and HM acknowledged that when he brought him into the squad. When PSdT returns one has to believe his would be fighting for that 5 jersey.

  • Comment 98, posted at 04.08.14 00:29:37 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Great idea to rest the Bokke after the Rugby Championship – and good for the young players getting a run in the CC.

  • Comment 99, posted at 04.08.14 10:35:52 by RedSharkUtd82 Reply

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  • All in all I’m a fan of this idea…although I will miss not being able to see a Currie Cup final like last year with all the top guys going hammer and tongs at each other! :cool: But then, I suppose that’s the point…

  • Comment 100, posted at 04.08.14 11:17:01 by pastorshark Reply
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