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Lambie gets some game time


Written by Maria Delport (Letgo)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 13 Aug 2014 at 14:32
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The Springboks have released Pat Lambie and he has been selected by the Sharks on the bench for this weekends match against the Pumas at Growthpoint Kings Park.

Lambie only returned from a lengthy injury layoff late in the Super Rugby season and made only one appearance in the starting line-up since his return. Reports during the week indicated that Handre Pollard will get another start for the Boks, with Morne Steyn covering on the bench. Eben Etzebeth and Frans Malherbe are two other Boks who have already been given some Currie Cup time to gain match fitness.

Stephan Lewies who has been struggling with a niggling injury is not available for this match and has been replaced by JC Astle who made his debut for the Sharks off the bench last week, where he did a good job in his 30 minutes on the park. Johan Meyer replaces him on the bench, but will cover loose forward, while Etienne Ooosthuizen will move to the second row if needed. Meyer will make his debut for the Sharks if he gets onto the park.

Brad Macloed-Henderson talked about their new opposition and the challenges they will present, “The Pumas showed why they are a very good side last week when they got a good win over Free State. They’ve only lost two or three games in the last two years, their players have been together as a team for a while now and they know where they’re going. They’re well-structured and we’ll need to perform well on Friday night to get the result.”

“They’re well-drilled and they did well in the Vodacom Cup, just getting pipped at the post by [eventual winners] Griquas in the semis.

“We’re very excited and looking forward to being back home, it’s fantastic to play at Growthpoint KINGS PARK, and we’ve taken a lot of confidence out of our away win last week.”

Cell C Sharks

15. SP Marais
14. Odwa Ndungane
13. S’bura Sithole
12. Paul Jordaan
11. Tonderai Chavhanga
10. Fred Zeilinga
9. Cameron Wright
8. Tera Mtembu (C)
7. Etienne Oosthuizen
6. Jacques Botes
5. Marco Wentzel
4. JC Astle
3. Lourens Adriaanse
2. Kyle Cooper
1. Thomas du Toit

Replacements
16. Monde Hadebe
17. Matt Stevens
18. Johan Meyer
19. Francois Kleinhans
20. Hanco Venter
21. Patrick Lambie
22. Lionel Cronje



70 Comments

  • This will be good for him. He wouldn’t have been ready for test match rugby yet anyway. I’m really excited to see Pollard on Saturday!

  • Comment 1, posted at 13.08.14 14:34:08 by David12246 Reply
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  • I forgot to mention, that unfortunately with Lambie on the bench, Dale Chadwick had to make way and misses out completely this week.

  • Comment 2, posted at 13.08.14 14:36:17 by Letgo Reply
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  • Welcome back Pat!

  • Comment 3, posted at 13.08.14 14:39:19 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 2) : Am I allowed to moan one more time about the idiot at SARU that decided it was a good idea to reduce the match day squad to 22 again…why?!

  • Comment 4, posted at 13.08.14 14:40:36 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @David12246 (Comment 1) : Has he ever been ready? Only in the Sharks faithful’s eyes. No coach at bok level has given Lambie more than a handful of starts, and only when options are seriously limited.

  • Comment 5, posted at 13.08.14 14:41:42 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • Welcome back Pat…am I the only one feeling for Dale?
    @pastorshark (Comment 4) : Yip,that was really a stupid desicion!

  • Comment 6, posted at 13.08.14 14:47:30 by BarendL Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 5) : You enjoy the game this past weekend? :lol:

    They should just relegate the Shitahs already!

  • Comment 7, posted at 13.08.14 14:51:41 by Talent Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 5) : 2012 – when we went unbeaten in the northern hemisphere…you know, the year that MS cost us most of our RC games, and HM was eventually forced to get over his love affair with MS.

  • Comment 8, posted at 13.08.14 14:59:38 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 4) :

    If we can moan with you, sure!

    I still don’t get why they did it.

  • Comment 9, posted at 13.08.14 15:06:22 by Letgo Reply
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  • @David12246 (Comment 1) : At least Meyer seems to be getting over his Morne fixation.

  • Comment 10, posted at 13.08.14 15:11:00 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 7) : You fear them that much? :evil:

  • Comment 11, posted at 13.08.14 15:14:30 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 8) : As I said, Lambie has been the last resort man. If it wasn’t Goosen, then it was Jantjies, now Pollard!

  • Comment 12, posted at 13.08.14 15:15:27 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • SARU is seriously retarded not using 23man squads. Good to see Lambie getting game time as he needs it…altho if that is criteria for selection then none of the overseas based guys should be playing.

  • Comment 13, posted at 13.08.14 15:19:10 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 8) : No matter how you paint it, Lambie just hasn’t nailed down a spot, despite having had loads of opportunities! Of his 33 odd tests, I think there were something like 8 starts, all the rest were little 10 to 15 minute cameo’s replacing Steyn or Kirchner

  • Comment 14, posted at 13.08.14 15:19:40 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 2) : sorry but I like the 4-3 split more just wish they picked Andrè or Heimar instead of Cronje.

  • Comment 15, posted at 13.08.14 15:30:29 by JD Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 4) : no.

  • Comment 16, posted at 13.08.14 15:32:47 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 15) : Not entirely sure why we’d have Cronje and Lambie on the bench.

    @KingCheetah (Comment 14) : During the 2012 outbound tour, I’m not entirely sure what more was required of him to cement his spot as fh…he ticked all the boxes during that tour.

    Anyways, giving him game time during CC is best for him, sadly he will probably have to pack-up and waste his time in Argentina when the Boks go there, when game time will do him a load of good…seeing as he has been injured for such a long spell.

  • Comment 17, posted at 13.08.14 15:35:18 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 5) :

    Are you just looking for trouble?

  • Comment 18, posted at 13.08.14 15:35:52 by Letgo Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 12) : and a fit Lambie is way better than all of them. Problem seems to be that Pat is not the kicking players that HM needs and so he is replaced by yet another Bulls kicking robot.

  • Comment 19, posted at 13.08.14 15:36:47 by JD Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 17) : ja don’t know either juat hope Pat gets some decent game time with the Sharks.

  • Comment 20, posted at 13.08.14 15:39:24 by JD Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 18) : leave the poor man, he’s still sad after last weekend and don’t think this weekend it will get any better for him.

  • Comment 21, posted at 13.08.14 15:41:47 by JD Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 14) : The list of FH’s picked ahead of Lambie:

    Steyn – first broken, then ran off over-seas
    Jantjies – Broken, Injured, then ran off over-seas
    Goosen – injured, injured, injured, then ran off over-seas ;-)

    Pollard has played how many games exactly for the Boks? yet he somehow miraculously convinced HM that he should be the preferred Bok fh (hunting trips organised by daddy sure has a nice way of paving a smooth path with the Bok coach)…

    …judging by the above, he’ll soon either be a. broken, b. injured, c. run over-seas or e. all of he above. :roll:

  • Comment 22, posted at 13.08.14 15:55:56 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 19) : Did plenty of kicking in the S15, it was just aimless and ineffective. Pollard has shown more inclination to attack of late, and plays a lot flatter.

    Lambie is good in patches, and does some good things, he just can’t seem to nail a bok place down.

  • Comment 23, posted at 13.08.14 16:03:22 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 23) : EXPLAIN to me how can he nail down a spot when he never gets to start a match?

  • Comment 24, posted at 13.08.14 16:16:27 by jovner Reply

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  • @jovner (Comment 24) : Not saying its his fault. He had a few starts in the WC, but then he was back to the bench again.

  • Comment 25, posted at 13.08.14 16:20:41 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 22) : Or Lambie is simply not rated as good enough!

  • Comment 26, posted at 13.08.14 16:21:24 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 26) : spot on, heyneke doesn’t rate lambie and never will. he is just there to keep us happy. just a spare wheel if needed. he will also be playing in france in 2015 after the world cup. no need for him to stick around

  • Comment 27, posted at 13.08.14 16:26:35 by jovner Reply

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  • I think Lambie will get a lot more out of game time with the Sharks than hanging around the Bok squad. He needs a few games to get back to match fitness. He did not exactly cover himself in glory in the semi against the Crusaders – looked very rusty and made quite a few mistakes.

    At the very least he should be a useful bench option for the Boks as he can cover 10, 15 and even 12 if needed.

  • Comment 28, posted at 13.08.14 16:29:40 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 23) : sorry to say but what more must Lambie do? Before his injury this year he was looking good now he needs time to get back and if the Bok coach don’t intend to not play him then leave him in Durban where he can play and regain his form!!!!!!

  • Comment 29, posted at 13.08.14 17:03:48 by JD Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 28) : and who would not look rusty in a super important match after being injured for so long?!?!?! He should never having started that game!!!!!!

  • Comment 30, posted at 13.08.14 17:16:20 by JD Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 26) : @jovner (Comment 27) : or maybe HM knows that he can’t just leave him out of the Bok team so he does the next best thing: nail him to the bench and only pick him when you absolutely have no other option?!?!?!?!

  • Comment 31, posted at 13.08.14 17:21:43 by JD Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 28) : wish HM would grow a pair and just drop Pat as it’s clear thaf he has no intention of giving him any decent game time. Pick Morné, Goosen, Jantjies, Pollard and all the rest and leave Pat to play for the Sharks! !!!

  • Comment 32, posted at 13.08.14 17:25:43 by JD Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 5) : He has done plenty well in many tests. He was good in November 2012 when he started. He was solid last year against Wales and much better against Scotland. Also, take into account the game for the Barbarians. Granted, that game was more open than most test matches, but he was great. He was also good at fullback when that was his more regular position for the Boks. I think he is a very reliable test match player.

  • Comment 33, posted at 13.08.14 18:55:58 by David12246 Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 19) : That doesn’t really apply anymore. Pat is an excellent out of hand kicker.

  • Comment 34, posted at 13.08.14 18:58:29 by David12246 Reply

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  • Just leave KingShiter, he is grumpy the Pumas nailed his team. Wonder what will happen in Super Rugby next year?

  • Comment 35, posted at 13.08.14 19:02:08 by Talent Reply
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  • Interesting…
    The general consensus is that Pollard will be the end of Steyn as Lambie is a more versatile bench option.

  • Comment 36, posted at 13.08.14 19:05:01 by Talent Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 30) : It was a gamble, and in hindsight he was probably rushed back to early. I think he just needs a few games to get back to form.

    I would be quite happy if HM drops Steyn and relies on Pollard and Lambie as his 10′s, but that will probably not happen.

  • Comment 37, posted at 13.08.14 19:13:52 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 37) : think Pat needs to play Currie cup to regain his form. Sitting on a bench or carrying bags will not help him to regain his form!!!!! Let Steyn, Pollard and Goosen play 10 for the Bokke.

  • Comment 38, posted at 13.08.14 19:19:28 by JD Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 36) : don’t be to sure it might be the end of Lambie.

  • Comment 39, posted at 13.08.14 19:21:19 by JD Reply
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  • @David12246 (Comment 33) : we all know that except KingCheetah and HM.

  • Comment 40, posted at 13.08.14 19:23:34 by JD Reply
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  • I don’t really have any issues with Lambie, think he is a solid enough player. He just hasn’t nailed down a spot. As I said, its not his fault HM doesn’t rate him, nor is it his fault that the Snake wants him to be a kicking FH.

    The Sharks have caused the demise of Lambie. He has become a kicking FH thanks to Jake, and not a very good one.

    Let him play FB, but again will he be back up to Willie. Or FH and play second fiddle to Goosen, Pollard, and Boshoff.

  • Comment 41, posted at 13.08.14 20:03:09 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @David12246 (Comment 33) : Solid yes… but as a test FH you have to be able to be more than solid no?

    Pats problem is the same that afflicted so many other versatile players. Solid in all that he does, but not quite the edge the top coaches want. So he becomes a useful bench cover that can play 10, 12, and 15.

    Not my fault. I just pointed out that Lambie has been around the bok squad for 5 years now, and hasn’t nailed it down

  • Comment 42, posted at 13.08.14 20:06:06 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 42) : ja ask Brent Russel it’s no fun to be usefull!!!! Lambie should pick one position and refuse to play any other positions!!!! Pick and stick!!!!!

  • Comment 43, posted at 13.08.14 20:14:44 by JD Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 41) : sorry to say but HM made him into a “kicking flyhalf” way before JW was near Pat. Lambie is in need of game time, let him play thr Currie cup for the Sharks and by next year be will be back to his best, but if he’s going to carry bags for the duration of the Rugby Championship he will struggle to find any form.

  • Comment 44, posted at 13.08.14 20:19:45 by JD Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 42) : Hold on, I said solid once there. I said good, great, and excellent. Solid was good enough in that game, where he unexpectedly had to change positions.

  • Comment 45, posted at 13.08.14 20:26:11 by David12246 Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 42) : @JD (Comment 44) : Interesting observations. Personally, I think Lambie needs to focus on fullback (for the Boks at least but perhaps at the Sharks too). Much of the Bok gameplan relies on a play-maker at 15. God forbid, should Willie le Roux be injured, Lambie’s probably our best bet as replacement play-maker (Mvovo just hasn’t spent enough time in that position yet). It also happens to be the position in which he made his Sharks debut. I don’t baulk at the idea of Fred at flyhalf and Lambie at fullback.

  • Comment 46, posted at 13.08.14 20:31:03 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 46) : that’s why I said he should pick a position. I remember in the past comments about his lack of pace being a problem if he plays 15. I personally think he should stick to 10 or 12. It’s hard for me to say but I also think he needs to go and play in France for two years (like Frans did) so that he can settle in a position.

  • Comment 47, posted at 13.08.14 20:51:33 by JD Reply
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  • Jake White backed Lambie at Flyhalf all the way at the beginning of Super Rugby. Lambie played brilliantly in the first four games and our chances in this year’s Super Rugby died when Lambie AND Zeilinger were injured. Lambie would have got better and better in the SR comp and I’m sure that then he would have shone even in HM’s eyes!It was SUCH bad luck that he was injured during the 5th game. He has hardly ever had an extended time without getting injured. He really puts his (comparatively small) body on the line. He’s never scared to tackle. That’s prob why he gets injured.
    I think he is best suited to flyhalf. It’ll be very interesting to see how he combines with Wright.
    Lambie should NEVER have started the game against the Crusaders. He should have come off the bench again. That game could not have done much for his confidence.
    I really feel for the guy. I agree that HM should drop him for the Championship and rather let him get some game time at the Sharks.

  • Comment 48, posted at 13.08.14 22:41:37 by [email protected] Reply

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  • It’s a bit unfair to judge Lambie on the last game of the season. He was pretty good at the start of the season…then came the injury…and – with hindsight – rushed back just too soon. Give him an extended run at flyhalf in some competition and we’ll see what happens…I’d back him there any day!!

  • Comment 49, posted at 13.08.14 23:35:18 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 49) : @[email protected] (Comment 48) : ja would have like to see him play Currie cup to get confidence and form back but I don’t see that happening. He’s bound to carry bags in Argentina, Oz and NZ before resting for a week or two and then of to carry bags in Europe.

  • Comment 50, posted at 13.08.14 23:59:18 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 50) : I’m afraid you’re right…

  • Comment 51, posted at 14.08.14 06:49:16 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 46) : Yeah, I agree.

  • Comment 52, posted at 14.08.14 07:01:37 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 50) : HM was quoted as saying how he thanks the Sharks for playing Lambie this Saturday, before the away game vs. the Pumas.

    To me, that implies that he’ll be traveling all over the southern hemisphere, as the backstop in-case any of the match 23 get’s injured before game-day.

  • Comment 53, posted at 14.08.14 08:02:27 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 53) : For his own sanity I think Lambie should go the Fransie route. The chance of playing, however remote, will always give a guy false hope but the quicker he realises that he doesn’t have a big enough boot (and that really is all that matters now) and enough bone mass between the ears he will always be a hanger on in this set up.

  • Comment 54, posted at 14.08.14 08:45:37 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 54) : You mean go to Japan….or peeve Saru completely off? :twisted:

    Not sure Lambie will be willing to give up on his dream that easily…but he will probably be gone post 2015, and I won’t blame him.

  • Comment 55, posted at 14.08.14 09:26:39 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Ok I now know why I am getting more and more tired of the stupidity at the Sharks re selections of players, WTF :shock: how on earth can Andre Esterhuizen be moved to blind side flank? :evil:

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 56) : Huh?

  • Comment 57, posted at 14.08.14 09:37:51 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 55) : Peeve SARU off, of course he wont but he is always going to be sucking on the proverbial hind mammary.

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 57) : Yup, Andre Esterhuizen has been selected at blind side flank

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 53) : 100% correct carrying bags all over Argentina, OZ and NZ. That’s the best way to get back into form and regain confidence after being injured for most of Super rugby!?!?!?!?!

  • Comment 60, posted at 14.08.14 09:47:46 by JD Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 59) : What happened to Ooshuyzen at 7 then?

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 61) : Sorry I was meant to add the Sharks U21 side

  • Comment 62, posted at 14.08.14 09:50:24 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 59) : Is this for the seniors or the u21′s?

  • Comment 63, posted at 14.08.14 09:50:40 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 59) : huh for what team?

  • Comment 64, posted at 14.08.14 09:50:58 by JD Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 63) : @sharks_lover (Comment 62) : Asked and answered.

  • Comment 65, posted at 14.08.14 09:51:28 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 55) : don’t think he must move to Japan. France would be the place to go for Pat.

  • Comment 66, posted at 14.08.14 09:52:51 by JD Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 65) : could be a good move as all of a sudden the Sharks are over run with options at 12 and 13.

  • Comment 67, posted at 14.08.14 09:55:56 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 67) : Nope bad move JD, Andre was a star 12 just a couple of months ago for the Jnr Boks

  • Comment 68, posted at 14.08.14 09:58:54 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 68) : yes he was a star for the Jnr Bokke but how many players are ahead of him at the Sharks and the Bokke? I think he can be a success in both possitions it all depends on what he decides to do, go for 12 or 7?!?!

  • Comment 69, posted at 14.08.14 10:03:58 by JD Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 56) : Don’t get me started on that. How we were caught with our pants down with regards to the 7 shirt is beyond me. As much as I dislike Ruldolph, this would have never happened under his watch. Back to Lambie, he is a flyhalf and nothing else. He now has a genuine competitor in Pollard, their games are similar which means the best man will get the jersey…bye bye Steyn. If I was Pat, I would ask HM to release me to the Sharks for a few weeks and launch my fight from there. Morne won’t be able to keep up with the new style that HM wants to impose (looking at the players he has picked), that will force HM to look elsewhere….and if Lambie is playing and implementing this new style during the CC, he has a much better chance of showing he can deliver than showing that during training which is in a controlled environment.

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