What are we expecting, exactly?

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 2 Sep 2014 at 12:19
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I think the title pretty much sums it up. What are our expectations from this year’s Currie Cup campaign, as fans? And are those expectations fair or realistic?

Let’s look at a few facts. We won the Currie Cup last year and did so in style, utilising and rotating amongst a rather large squad. Brendan Venter endured some initial criticism and a fair few fan doubts early on, as his chopping and changing led to some continuity and cohesion issues up front. Dark days there were indeed, with a loss to Griquas at home and bad defeats to Province home and away, before pulling off an amazing underdog victory in the final.

Since then, the team has had yet another change in coach – and Jake White has brought in his own philosophies and ideas about selection. A huge number of players have moved on – I count 22 names that featured in last year’s Currie Cup squad, and not in this one – while there is this year the added complication of no involvement from the Springboks even in the knock-out rounds. Injuries, particularly in the second row, have been cruel and while the emergence of a guy like Stephan Lewies has been a positive, he has carried a heavy workload for such a young man and is now starting to show the effects of that.

The team is also onto its third captain in as many campaigns, and also its fourth head coach, with Brad Macleod-Henderson taking the reigns on his own for the first time. Last year, Venter ran the Currie Cup team himself, with Macleod-Henderson one of the deputies.

Now we can look at all the above factors and point to a number of failings – succession planning, continuity in selection and game plan, player development, skills, etc – none of which can be fixed in the short term. The team is what it is at the moment and we have the players that we have. Given the above factors (and an inability to change the past) it’s probably pretty pointless and counter-productive to expect a perfect, trophy-retaining, campaign. Even more pointless is blaming the players that we have, or even the coaches who I’m sure are all doing their best to deliver under difficult circumstances while at the same time learning and growing.

Perhaps we need to cut everybody just a little bit of slack? Just a thought.


  • The voice of realism.

  • Comment 1, posted at 02.09.14 12:30:51 by MikeSebMatt Reply
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  • I blame shit planning and the buck stops with the DOR.

  • Comment 2, posted at 02.09.14 12:33:12 by Pokkel Reply
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  • My team for griquas match

    15. Tyler Fisher/Lionel
    14. Odwa
    13. Sithole
    12. Andre Esterhuizen
    11. Chavhanga
    10. Fred Zeillanga/tim swiel
    9. Conrad hoffmann
    8. TERA
    7. Johan Meyer
    6. Jacques Botes
    5. Stephan Lewies
    4. Ettienne Ooshuizen/HAY
    3. Lourens andriaanse
    2. Kyle Cooper
    1. Thomas du Toit

    16. Franco marais
    17. Dale chadwick
    18. Hay
    19. David Fisher
    20. Camoran Wright
    21. Tim Swiel
    22. Heimar Williams

  • Comment 3, posted at 02.09.14 12:35:47 by Windgat101 Reply

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  • To be honest i wasnt expecting grat results or rotation giving the player exodus and non availability. What I was expecting to see is an exciting attack based game plan and solid pressure defense. Set pieces should be a non negotiable no matter what level- u should always win your own ball even if u dont dominate on opposition ball. What has let me down as a supporter is the shockingly poor and boring game plan and almost non existent defense. The Sharks seem intent on making the opposition do all the playing in the hope that they make a mistake. Im finding it hard to support a team that relies on opposition mistakes to win games…but as they say Patience is a virtue

  • Comment 4, posted at 02.09.14 12:36:31 by SheldonK Reply

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  • I am not excepting this team to win the Currie Cup this year. Last year the second tier group got us a home semi, but then the Boks helped to win the final. This year no Boks – not likely to win the competition. Likewise we have lost some non-Bok stalwarts e.g. Deysel and Daniel.

    However what I would have liked to see is firstly a move away from the “surrender possession by kicking because I don’t what else to do, and then prepare to defend” plan. In fact it has been getting worse.

    Pretty much all the CC teams bar the Sharks are trying to play positive rugby. Most are struggling but they are at least trying. The Sharks have 10-15 minute spells of attacking rugby inside the usual dreary rubbish. You are not going to improve unless you try.

    Then I would also have liked to see a slow improvement in basic skills – on attack as well on defense. I have yet to see any improvement on attack and the defense is slowly going to pot as well.

    Likewise I would like to see an improvement in decision making – however the players look lost and inevitably do the wrong things.

  • Comment 5, posted at 02.09.14 12:58:49 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • One thing that the rotation of last year resulted in, was that players could not get into a comfort zone. If you did not perform when it was your turn to play, then sorry, go sit on the bench. That is why a guy like McCloed was so awesome in the final, as he had Cobus breathing down his neck. Now we have a guy like SP, who really is talented, but is heavily under performing, knowing that he will be in the starting team next week no matter what. Even a guy like JP has been through those slumps (and all of us who have ever played the game has been there) but when your coach drops you to the bench, you work harder and fight for your spot. But maybe I m just in general pissed off at the state of affairs at my beloved Sharks. Smittie and the Great White was suppose to herald the beginning of an era of dominance by the Sharks, alas, I have for some reason the same feeling now as those dark Putt days. Hopefully it is just still the disappointing feeling of our loss to the Pumas that is still lingering.

  • Comment 6, posted at 02.09.14 12:59:39 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • I blame coaching! They pick players Out of position, they persist with players clearly without form, there seems to be no clear gameplan etc.

  • Comment 7, posted at 02.09.14 13:02:27 by JarsonX Reply
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  • I have one and only one hope, the emergence of sensible kicking during this season.

  • Comment 8, posted at 02.09.14 13:18:44 by vanmartin Reply
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  • I would like to see Hugh Reece-Edwards employed as kicking consultant… with the sole task of administering a boot to the groin of every player responsible for executing a senseless kick on the field of play. Of course, that might result in Conrad Hoffman wearing his ‘nads as earrings, but hey, its a sacrifice I’m willing to make.

  • Comment 9, posted at 02.09.14 13:33:02 by Culling Song Reply
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  • What does Jake do during the CC

  • Comment 10, posted at 02.09.14 13:45:59 by Saffex Reply

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  • id like to see odwa shifted to 15 helmar to 12 … jordaan to 13 … sbu to 14

  • Comment 11, posted at 02.09.14 14:06:55 by byron Reply

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  • Cut everybody some slack, yes….it’s about time!!!!

  • Comment 12, posted at 02.09.14 14:18:01 by Coco Reply

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  • Ja sorry to say Rob but this Currie cup season is a waist of time for the Sharks and will do nothing for the Sharks to improve in thr future. If coaches aren’t up to even Currie cup level then the person responsible for appointing then should be blamed. As for persisting with SP at 15 and Jordaan at 12 when clearly neither is performing must we just ignore it and support them regardless? !?!?!?!

  • Comment 13, posted at 02.09.14 14:34:14 by JD Reply
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  • Rob, I think you opened the can of worms with your player ratings, though fair it was also very direct.

    Anyway, then this is a good follow up on that. I haven’t been too upset with the results, as I took note of the huge player loss and the fact that we have a new coaching setup.

  • Comment 14, posted at 02.09.14 14:54:28 by Letgo Reply
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  • Would it be too much for Sharks supporters to expect the Sharks to play a balanced and effective game, which a small union with limited resources, such as the Pumas, manages to do?

  • Comment 15, posted at 02.09.14 14:57:00 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • As much as I like to give you okes shit, the Sharks will improve during the campaign and you can expect them in the semi’s. From there it is the team and performance on the day that counts.

    As far as a long-term strategy goes – one word: continuity. Stick with the management, coaches develop just like players do. Seldom do you see a player in a debut season set the world alight, it is no different for coaches. Every day you learn, you improve, and you adapt.

    For now, I will continue to give you shit.

  • Comment 16, posted at 02.09.14 14:57:11 by Morné Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 15) :

    Jimmy has been with the Pumas for bloody ages. He was a high school coach in the old Eastern Transvaal (Ermelo High) so knows the demographics, strengths, weaknesses and structures in that region from schoolboy rugby right up to senior rugby.

    That he has done well, and is doing well, there is little doubt – but don’t compare unions with unions, compare the intellectual property within it and how it is managed.

  • Comment 17, posted at 02.09.14 14:59:23 by Morné Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 14) : All of that we expected last year after Plum got booted, not this year, are we then suppose to just be happy with the mediocre showings of our team? To just accept the results, because we are building? I hate that term by the way. If we go on like this, then we are gonna reach the same point that the Bulls are at now, were it is a step in the right direction if you don’t get hammered by Province or the Lions.

  • Comment 18, posted at 02.09.14 15:01:50 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • What I would have liked too see that we haven’t seen so far, is some kind of contingency plan for next years SR – and not just, we’ll have our Boks back. I really thought there would have been some replacements for of the 22 players we lost.

    Specifically players that needed to be replaced with more experience, either from within the system or getting some experience from elsewhere, is Anton Bresler, Jean Deysel, Keegan Daniel, Charl McLeod, Ludik/Viljoen (from last year already), Herbst, the Marais brothers, Stander, Whitehead.

    Who do we have now? Oosthuizen the untested Astle and Hay, still very untried players in the loosies, scrumhalf looks much better, we got some cover at tighthead, only the out of form Marais at 15 and Heimar and Esterhuizen as inside center cover, who is hardly being used – instead we’re continuing with Jordaan, who will most likely feature at 13 for most of the SR.

    I am definitely worried about the planning ahead part. When you lose that many players surely the result should be more than 2 incoming (hoffman/cronje)?

    It could almost be seen as a positive if you do lose that many, especially with a new DOR, as he could then shop around for a couple of players that he really rates. I don’t get why this isn’t happening. Where is our “Adriaan Strauss” and “Philip van der Walt”? Surely there’s a couple of good buys just waiting to be picked up by a team that just lost 22 players and are need of some experienced starters and SR back-ups?

    I must say in the positions we are lacking, I have a number of players on my wishlist.

  • Comment 19, posted at 02.09.14 15:06:44 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 15) :

    This Pumas team have been playing together all season and have built quite a healthy squad, ours are put together and ravaged by Springbok call ups and overseas contracts.

    These things take time and practice.

  • Comment 20, posted at 02.09.14 15:08:44 by Letgo Reply
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  • I’m not expecting to win the CC, flip, not even expecting a semi-final finish. This CC is a test for me. Test whether the coaching staff is able to build and drill a team. Test whether the players are able to do the basics well. I want to see clearing of rucks accurately and effectively, balls being caught, players playing for each other i.e. if you are in a better position to carry the ball further, I will pass it to you, winning our lineouts & scrums, no double stepping by the scrumhalf, flyhalf playing flat, tackles being made, variation of play (none of this one dimensional play), a gameplan that talks to the opponent we are playing against, urgency of play and better use of the ball. Let’s attack and keep the ball alive mentally. Am I asking for too much? I don’t think so. I’m not even expecting a semi-final finish, let the results take care of themselves. I want smart, accurate and effective rugby….basically what the Pumas dish up on a weekly basis.

  • Comment 21, posted at 02.09.14 15:09:46 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 18) :

    I told Rob at the time, it was a mistake to get rid of Plum. For some reason we as fans judge success on silverware. Of course it is nice to win trophies, but I’d rather be the top ranked team consistently than have a couple of glorified beer jugs.

    If we have to work out a SA ranking over the last 15 years in SA rugby I have little doubt the Sharks will rank #1 by quite some distance. In fact, the pick and go website which does a Super Rugby ranking similar to the IRB’s test rankings have the Sharks 3rd overall (since 1996) only behind the Saders and Tahs – and a long way ahead of any SA team (Stormers ranked 7th).

  • Comment 22, posted at 02.09.14 15:09:50 by Morné Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 21) : This to me talks to the health of our franchise going forward. If this campaign is a total failure, sorry but Jake will have to be give licence to form his own coaching staff.

  • Comment 23, posted at 02.09.14 15:12:52 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 18) :

    Actually I expected more from last years crop since most of the players were still the same. We are clearly a weakened team this year.

    And building can happen over night with a few good signings. I think we’re a little lacking in a number of areas. We’re fielding a very inexperienced team, especially in the forwards.

    I really think the Sharks need to make one or two good signings.

    When are we going to sign our next Willem Alberts?

  • Comment 24, posted at 02.09.14 15:15:06 by Letgo Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 21) :

    I feel like all the things you mentioned will inevitably lead to a semi final and final. We won’t reach the final because we’re not able to fix these things so quickly.

    Also, we want accurate passing and handling, but if the pressure is on it’s more difficult to do these things effectively. The other team is stronger in the loosies and puts pressure on your break down the scrummy takes longer to get hold of the ball and delivers a bad pass to the backs, who in turn have less time on the ball and inevitably make the error.

    I don’t think these guys make nearly as many errors in training.

    I thought about it and realised that to just expect these things to improve over night is unrealistic. You need change in player personnel or you need time. It will improve slowly over time.

  • Comment 25, posted at 02.09.14 15:19:51 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 17) : Sure, and one has to wonder how the intellectual property at the Sharks is managed. @Letgo (Comment 20) : Which begs the question, why isn’t there enough depth to cover the anticipated player drain? Bok squad callups and overseas contracts are largely known quantities. Injuries are obviously bad luck.

    Those things don’t explain the issues that have been part of Sharks rugby (with a few exceptions here and there) for a long time in both the CC and SR – inconsistency, lack of BMT, lack of creativity, etc.

  • Comment 26, posted at 02.09.14 15:30:55 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 24) : The only reason I can see for us having this watered down squad (no offense meant to the players) is that JW and Smittie is waiting for some players to finish their contracts at their respective unions, before they can be signed.

  • Comment 27, posted at 02.09.14 15:31:25 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • “You learn far more from failure than success.” – Anyone who ever rose to the top.

    With a young squad stripped of a huge amount of experience, hamstrung by injuries, and trying to play a more attacking game, we simply cannot be afraid of losing or making mistakes because that will happen A LOT, before we start seeing the magical balanced, well executed, total rugby we all expect.

  • Comment 28, posted at 02.09.14 15:34:29 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 27) :

    I have a feeling that might be the situation in a number of cases. That’s all I can think off.

  • Comment 29, posted at 02.09.14 15:37:01 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 29) : I just hope that we don’t get any more journeyman signings like in the days of Putt and recently with Hoffman and Cronje. We need quality players with the ability to be able to be win 50 caps for the Sharks, not just the one off season and then disappear. I mean, how much money has been wasted in the past couple of years on players like Hoffman, Graaf, Kees Lensing etc?

  • Comment 30, posted at 02.09.14 15:41:57 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 26) :

    You know I think this issue comes from previous systems already. A few left after Jakes arrival, but I don’t think it was necessarily because of Jake. I think many of those that left had already decided to leave before he came. So now Jake have been left in the situation where there is a few gaping holes in depth.

    I must say that I quite like that he has been looking from within our structures before scrambling for some over the hill international to fill the hole.

    Lewies, Suburu, Zeilinga, Swiel, Ungerer, now Astle, Thomas … would probably not have been given a chance this early on under Plum

    Plum would have gotten a french and a Scott, a Argie and what not else before playing Swiel and Zeilinga. I like that these guys are trusted, but I still feel like we need to get a permenant fix in a few positions – even if it just spurs our current crop on to perform better. Philip van der Walt would have been an excellent buy.

    The Stormers are sitting with quite a few solid loosies, why aren’t we looking for a loophole in there contracts? We’ve done it before. ;-)

  • Comment 31, posted at 02.09.14 15:43:00 by Letgo Reply
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  • I’m reading alot what you guys are saying some of it I agree with others not the things aren’t going well but go look at the game again although it is painful needless to say but if a couple of passes whent to hand we would have scored more tries s’bru rushed a couple of passes that went out or straight down if most of those passes if his wasn’t rushed the score line wouldn’t have looked different we will improve

  • Comment 32, posted at 02.09.14 15:55:13 by sharks4eve2013 Reply

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  • @sharks4eve2013 (Comment 32) : I agree, not everything is doom and gloom, but you are only as good as your last game.

  • Comment 33, posted at 02.09.14 15:59:00 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @sharks4eve2013 (Comment 32) :

    Yip, comes with experience … time.

  • Comment 34, posted at 02.09.14 16:03:02 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 31) : I also like the fact that youngsters in the system are getting opportunities.

    What is worrying to me is that those guys are being forced to play a game they’re not comfortable with. Why force a Swiel or Zeilinga to become kicking 10′s when they’re not? S’bura is a devastating runner, yet how often does he get the ball in space?

    There’s a distinct lack of building play around player strengths, which would far better serve the squad in the long run.

    When a bit of thinking is involved the guys are capable of some great set moves, which more often than not have led to some beautiful tries this year. Yet, we see one every 4 games. So the ability is obviously there, which is why I reckon Sharks supporters should never expect less than the best.

  • Comment 35, posted at 02.09.14 16:03:27 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 27) : The scary thing for me is that we are not even hearing rumours about new signings. So it makes me believe we don’t have guys lined up. High risk to go into Superugby with just one 7.

  • Comment 36, posted at 02.09.14 16:09:04 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 26) :

    Well if you do not have any continuity in management (coaches) then how do you expect that IP to be managed properly. But already I read that the coaches must piss-off.

    Systems takes time to implement. In the last two years you lost your Super Rugby Coach, Currie Cup coach and CEO. With new people comes new systems and ideas – give them (it) time.

  • Comment 37, posted at 02.09.14 16:16:35 by Morné Reply
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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 33) : that’s the thing go look when the kicking starts it happens when they run out of ideas to break the defensive line that to me is inexperience take botes and udders out the team age is under 26 ( give me a couple of years) they will click and when they do do I need to say more

  • Comment 38, posted at 02.09.14 16:24:23 by sharks4eve2013 Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 37) : ja I think we all know that they need time but seeing “basic mistakes” being made by players and coaches will never be accepted by supporters. At least at this stage of the year it qould not be unreasonable to expect players to be able to pass and catch a ball?!?!

  • Comment 39, posted at 02.09.14 16:25:09 by JD Reply
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  • @Saffex (Comment 10) : I’d actually like to know as well.

    What gives? Where does White go/what does he do instead?

  • Comment 40, posted at 02.09.14 16:31:01 by Seaton Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 37) : I don’t dispute the fact that changes in management, etc. are disruptive.

    The Sharks had a relatively long run of stability with Plumtree as coach. The same issues were evident then.

  • Comment 41, posted at 02.09.14 16:33:07 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Yeah, we could be much worse off, and this is a team and union in a change phase. Contrary to what stirrers like a king cheetah like to bait the fans with, we are without a huge amount of our top players in recent years, and this brings the whole team down.

    Just a new 8-9-10 axis alone can completely disrupt a team. Add new centres and second row, and is no wonder that we are struggling for direction.

    However, the thing that I am bothered by is the visible lack of hunger on attack and commitment on defence. Normally a young team at least provide this to compensate for lesser experience and fluency.

    The team should be balls to the wall – not this whoopsy, namby-pamby “kick the ball away before something bad happens” approach.

  • Comment 42, posted at 02.09.14 16:50:32 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 16) : Jeepers, you speak so much of sense!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 43, posted at 02.09.14 17:10:00 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 42) : Exactly.

    BTW is that you Inspector Grim?

  • Comment 44, posted at 02.09.14 17:12:22 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • My expectations for the Currie Cup:
    1. Target: qualify for the semis. Final = bonus. Win = Super Bonus.
    2. Develop a set of younger players in certain positions so that they will be genuine options for a Super Rugby Squad.
    And I’m with Rob: be patient, cut everybody some slack and let’s judge the success of the campaign at the end of it (by that I don’t mean no views, comments, criticism allowed…just not quite as many definitive judgements before the final picture is a bit clearer)…

  • Comment 45, posted at 02.09.14 17:26:24 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 44) :

    I’m a huge Blackadder and Thin Blue Line fan. Inspector Grimm rocks: “Tina I says…” cue Inspector Grimm rant…

  • Comment 46, posted at 02.09.14 17:43:41 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 46) : He does mangle the English language good and proper :lol:

  • Comment 47, posted at 02.09.14 18:10:12 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 46) : @Bokhoring (Comment 47) : The Thin Blue Line; Ben Elton’s finest hour (in my not particularly humble opinion)

  • Comment 48, posted at 02.09.14 21:16:06 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 46) : @Bokhoring (Comment 47) : @Culling Song (Comment 48) : love both Blackadder and Thin Blue Line. Seriously funny! Just add Faulty Towers and I will be ok for hours!

  • Comment 49, posted at 02.09.14 21:32:45 by JD Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 22) : Fascinating perspective and I don’t find the ranking that surprising. Sharks have played some great rugby over the years, but it also has to be pointed out that Plum was not in charge for all that time. Respected Plum a lot but I think it was important for the Sharks to clean house for a number of reasons. It’s still early days for Jake at the Sharks, looking forward to seeing in which direction he steers this ship.

    @Big Fish (Comment 46) : I have a cunning plan…

  • Comment 50, posted at 02.09.14 21:40:23 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 46) : @Bokhoring (Comment 47) : @Culling Song (Comment 48) : @JD (Comment 49) : There’s a line that Grim shouts at Raymond about a cock-up that is so perfect in it’s delivery and timing that it should be enforced as compulsory study material for all future actors.

  • Comment 51, posted at 02.09.14 21:45:34 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 50) : early days yes… but surely it would have been expected for players to WANT to train and play and work for Jake and John… instead it was the opposite. 22 of them left the union.

    Why is that?

  • Comment 52, posted at 02.09.14 22:51:45 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 50) :
    Is it as cunning as a fox what used to be Professor of Cunning at Oxford University but has moved on and is now working for the U.N. at the High Commission of International Cunning Planning?

    @vanmartin (Comment 51) :
    “Your cock-up; my arse!” :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 53, posted at 02.09.14 23:11:52 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 52) : There have been some major shifts towards a more professionalised culture since Jake’s arrival. Not everyone’s thrilled with the idea. It does not explain everything but it explains a lot.

  • Comment 54, posted at 03.09.14 06:42:16 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 53) : Ben Elton’s greatest line according to a lot of fans :D

  • Comment 55, posted at 03.09.14 08:24:10 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 53) :
    @vanmartin (Comment 55) :
    The best quote, imo, ‘It’s my arse, and I don’t need anyone sticking their nose in, and sniffing about’

  • Comment 56, posted at 03.09.14 09:42:48 by Greg Reply

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  • I did not actually know the novelist Ben Elton is the writer of Blackadder and Thin Blue Line. Some of his more serious novels are also a very good read.

  • Comment 57, posted at 03.09.14 09:53:10 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • No time to say much – however, Rob. I truly appreciated this article. We have tough times ahead!

  • Comment 58, posted at 03.09.14 10:16:13 by [email protected] Reply

    DenCurrie Cup player
  • @vanmartin (Comment 54) : yes I agree,and in my opinion is the first and most important box needing to be ticked,it aint no easy task changing the culture of any entity,but The Great White,albeit pushing a rhino uphill ,has got the rhino walking,and let’s not forget in a very ,very short period ,this professional culture will permaite down into the coaches,players and will result in a Super Rugby trophy,a winning culture

  • Comment 59, posted at 03.09.14 11:07:38 by benji Reply
    Friend of Sharksworld
    Team captain
  • @Morné (Comment 22) : I think every Shark player and supporter would trade that no 1 ranking for a SR trophy period.

  • Comment 60, posted at 03.09.14 11:10:49 by benji Reply
    Friend of Sharksworld
    Team captain
  • Would you believe we`re still second favourites, after WP and above the Lions, to take the CC on sportsbet?

    And here we`ve all but written off this season as a bad job already … :roll:

  • Comment 61, posted at 04.09.14 13:56:12 by Original Pierre Reply
    Original PierreSuper Rugby player

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