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Bloemfontein stalemate for Sharks, Cheetahs


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Cheetahs, Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 13 Sep 2014 at 16:50
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A late second half fightback, in which Shark captain Tera Mtembu appeared to have scored the winning try, was unfortunately not enough to assure his side four points, as a penalty by Cheetahs flyhalf Willie du Plessis in the 82nd minute secured a 30-all draw in Bloemfontein this afternoon.

The Sharks were again forced to pay for a sloppy start, with some first half lapses responsible for two tries to Cheetahs dangerman Sarel Pretorius in the first half. As the Sharks, who had no shortage of possession, fumbled their way through a scoreless half hour (after Lionel Cronje had opened the scoring with a penalty), it was Pretorius who struck twice, making good use of every half chance that came the Cheetahs’ way.

Cheetahs prop George Marish was yellow carded late in the half for kicking Jacques Botes – with few able to understand why referee Stu Berry hadn’t brandished a deserved red – and the Sharks used their 1-man scrum advantage to good effect thereafter, S’bura Sithole scoring their first try after after a strong scrum in the Cheetahs’ 22. A penalty to the home side, converted by Willie du Plessis, was canclled by another to Cronje on the stroke of half time, with the Cheetahs taking a 17-13 lead into the break.

The Sharks were the better side for most of the second period (one which, amazingly, they won 17-13). Despite some handling lapses and poor decisions at time, there was far more urgency and accuracy to their play, with forwards such as Kyle Cooper and Lourens Adriaanse playing vital roles in ensuring continuity with a backline that looked full of running. The Cheetahs scored again through Tienie Burger 53 minutes into the game, one must say against the run of play, but it was all Sharks afterwards, with Andre Esterhuizen rounding off a good team movement to bring the team back within striking distance, before, once again, a silly penalty immediately afterwards allowed the Cheetahs some breathing room.

The Sharks went over twice more, with first S’bura Sithole and then SP Marais failing to ground, before Mtembu’s stretch for the line appeared to have handed them a 3-point win. Esterhuizen, who was part hero and part villain on the day, infringed twice in the closing minutes, though, with du Plessis opting to aim the second of those at the poles, with disastrous consequences for the Sharks.

Scores: Cheetahs 30. Tries Sarel Pretorius (2), Tienie Burger. Conversions Willie du Plessis (3). Penalties du Plessis (3).
Sharks 30. Tries S’bura Sithole, Andre Esterhuizen, Tera Mtembu. Conversions Lionel Cronje (3). Penalties Cronje (3).



38 Comments

  • Sigh…

  • Comment 1, posted at 13.09.14 16:54:16 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Have to say regardless of all the poor passes (and losing the ball over the try line), the Sharks attack looked a lot better when SP came on. He does bring a much needed element of unpredictability to the Sharks.

    I also like Wright’s strong flat pass. Admittedly he is still raw, but I reckon he will only get better with more playing time.

  • Comment 2, posted at 13.09.14 17:10:01 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Sigh…I will comment further once I’ve had a beer and relaxed a bit!

  • Comment 3, posted at 13.09.14 17:13:34 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 2) : was piss off at SP when he lost the ball but got to defend SP a bit and admit that it was one hell of a good tackle and don’t think a lot of players would have scored with that tackle.
    Sharks needs a better 9/10 combo as the rest of the team looked good.

  • Comment 4, posted at 13.09.14 17:32:23 by JD Reply
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  • Esterhuizen made a huge difference to the Sharks attack. Although he is very raw, things like handling can be coached. Also think giving SP a few games at wing would do his game a world of good. He would be able to gain much needed confidence without the pressure of always having to make the right decision in terms of run or kick

  • Comment 5, posted at 13.09.14 17:33:14 by woody Reply
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  • The Sharks and Boks desperately need decent 9′s.

  • Comment 6, posted at 13.09.14 17:35:07 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 6) : Our best 9 is being wasted by the Boks! At least let us have him if Meyer won’t use him.

  • Comment 7, posted at 13.09.14 18:24:05 by Here be dragons Reply

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  • Cant understand all the gloom and negativity. Really good game from our young team.

    I thought we had some general execution errors – nothing specific to our half backs or SP. Mostly due to fluency and learning a new game plan.

    Also thought Cronje really used the space well on attack – this created space for the backs. Esterhuizen was a mixed bag, but showed how much we missed a physical presence at 12.

    Keep this team and approach for next week!

  • Comment 8, posted at 13.09.14 18:55:54 by Big Fish Reply
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  • both scrum halves actually had very good games. Cronje a bit of a mixed bag for me, mostly due to execution errors.

  • Comment 9, posted at 13.09.14 20:08:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) :
    Fair enough. But I really enjoyed the uncertainty he created on attack by meandering around the gainline – ala Larkham. Maybe something he learned during his Oz sojourn?

    Certainly, much better than the flat but predictable play of Zeilinga of late.

  • Comment 10, posted at 13.09.14 20:16:57 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 10) : yes it’s true. I think he gets a pass mark this week, at any rate. wings disappointing, but the rest of the backs did quite well

  • Comment 11, posted at 13.09.14 20:32:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Here be dragons (Comment 7) : With Ruan very likely out injured for the rest of the RC, Reinach is next in line to the Bok 23.

  • Comment 12, posted at 13.09.14 21:05:26 by gregkaos Reply
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  • Sometimes difficult to tell when watching on TV, but I felt the communication on the field was far better today.

  • Comment 13, posted at 13.09.14 21:16:18 by gregkaos Reply
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  • Odwa to me has to be the biggest disappointment. hos defence was poor today and he is offering very little on attack.

    thought stuart berry was probably the most consistant ref weve had in a while. bit confused -is he colour blind though? that would have been a red with most other refs. only other complaint i had with him was when botes was pushed into touch 5 meters from the line. how did he not pick up the 11 tracking back with him and then assisting in the tackle. that close and it was at least a penalty. possubly a yellow. berry gets a 7/10 from me

    i can see why they tried out ae at flank. the boy lacks gas to be a true world class 12. hes big and strong but hes missing some speed. his go forward ball was great. thought he tried a bit too hard but nice start.

    our loose head today was world class in the loose. our locks did well. felt the team is still battling to figure things out. was great to see an attempt to hold onto the ball.

    pity about the kick at the end by our flyhalf but it was quite refreshing to see a bit of variety at 10

  • Comment 14, posted at 13.09.14 21:30:07 by byron Reply

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  • Ja Sharks looked a whole lot better today but that said it was not very difficult to show improvement after the poor performances of the past two weeks. The 9/10 combo is a worry for me but maybe Pat and Cobus will be released by HM?!?!

  • Comment 15, posted at 13.09.14 21:51:39 by JD Reply
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  • Mixed bag from Cronje, really really bad error at the end. Sure it was good in theory, but when there is a minute or two left and you just earned a slight lead, those things aren’t needed. Reminded me of Charl v Stormers. Painful learning experience for the guy, so now he has the chance to step up and mature. Same goes for Andre with those late penalties, silly but hopefully will take something from this. Missed a good chunk of the first half, but sounds as if it was a better performance. Do we want scrappy dour wins, or positive building performances? Don’t want to pick between them, but I want a SR trophy so bad (we all do!) and have a few CC ones already, let’s use this period to build! :grin:

  • Comment 16, posted at 13.09.14 21:56:11 by Here be dragons Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) : Don’t get me started on Hofmann’s decision-making. It cost the Sharks big time at crucial moments.

  • Comment 17, posted at 13.09.14 22:14:59 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 15) : With WlR and RP injured Pat might get more than 5-10 minutes and Cobus might actually get on the bench, unless HM pulls in Jano Vermaak

  • Comment 18, posted at 13.09.14 22:35:26 by Baylion Reply

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  • All round a better performance,however a lot of graft to do if the Sharks want to keep the CC.Decision making and handling errors are going to be a problem unless sorted asap.Botes as usual gave his all,its a pity that some of the other players don’t follow his example.

  • Comment 19, posted at 14.09.14 04:51:01 by Baldi Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 18) : Ja but Pat must play 10 not 15!!!!! and both needs game time before playing for the Bokke.

  • Comment 20, posted at 14.09.14 10:17:13 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 20) : Not going to happen JD. We may see Pat start at 15, but Pollard will start every match for the Boks for the remainder of the year, unless injured or completely falls apart. Meyer has never rated Lambie, he just will never admit it because of the outcry that is sure to follow. He also needs the security of Lambie on the bench. Lambie may be called on to start at 15 in place of Willie leRoux, but that is not even assured. These are the simple facts and all the consternation in the world, in you and me is not going to change that, so why work ourselves up?

    Personally I think Meyer has really shafted Lambie, and I wish he would just admit the fact he does not rate him and let him play back at the Sharks. This upcoming Olympic window allowing internationals to change countries may just see Lambie moving to Scotland to play international rugby for them, very sad but also very possible. He is only 23, has at least 2 more RWCs, possibly 3 in him. He was cricket captain in school, so perhaps he should switch to cricket. :mrgreen: :roll: :shock:

  • Comment 21, posted at 14.09.14 16:22:44 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 21) :
    I’m with you on this. While I wish Meyer would state the obvious regarding his opinion of Lambie, its his prerogative.

    I don’t see him making it past the WC anyway, so let him do it his way.

  • Comment 22, posted at 14.09.14 17:38:23 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Every coach has the right to rate players as he sees fit. I honestly believe that in Meyer’s view, he is not first choice at either 10, 12 or 15, probably 3rd choice at 10, and maybe 2nd at 15 (with the current squad). That being said, since he is close at both positions and can cover 12, he is essential on Meyer’s bench, which means no Lambie at the Sharks. :sad: Perhaps with him continuing to at least be in the Bok Squad and match day 23 on a fairly regular basis will prevent him from moving to Scotland.

  • Comment 23, posted at 14.09.14 17:53:41 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 23) : I feel bad for the kid, he has been messed around for years now. Plum and PdV shifting him between 10/15, when he finally has a chance to have a season at 10, he gets a bad injury. This whole bench thing is just making it worse, he is lucky to get 10 minutes a week, not enough for a player to stay match fit. Reinach hasn’t had a game in weeks, and now could be expected to play for the Boks. Poor management.

  • Comment 24, posted at 14.09.14 18:37:19 by Here be dragons Reply

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  • JP IS. IN FOR RUAN SO N NOTHER BACKLINE PLAYER IN. WHO IS REPLACEMENT 9 . WHY DID HE NOT TAKE MVOVO THAN . THIS COACH. IS. NOT MAKING SINCE IS TRYING TOO BUILD FOR NEXT YEAR OR. TRYING TOO GET OLDBODIES NEW PARTS OR WHAT.

  • Comment 25, posted at 14.09.14 19:38:40 by Justin Koelman Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 21) : ja it’s sad to say but maybe it will be best for Pat to switch to Scotland!?!?!?

  • Comment 26, posted at 14.09.14 20:07:04 by JD Reply
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  • @Here be dragons (Comment 24) : ja that’s why I think both players should be released to get some game time before playing for the Bokke.

  • Comment 27, posted at 14.09.14 20:18:58 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 26) : That really is a tough one, being a superstar on a team with little chance of winning anything or be messed around by a team that has a genuine shot at being best in the world. I would not want to have to make that decision

  • Comment 28, posted at 14.09.14 20:46:02 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Pat won’t be able to switch. He’s played for the Boks too recently.

  • Comment 29, posted at 14.09.14 21:52:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 29) : I seriously doubt whether he’d switch even if he was eligible. Everyone has an opinion on Pat’s abilities but one thing I’ve never heard disagreement on is the honourable way in which he handles himself. I don’t think it’s in Pat’s nature to switch even if he does feel under-appreciated.

  • Comment 30, posted at 14.09.14 22:12:53 by vanmartin Reply
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  • I watched this game completely sober although i was under the influence of flu medicine so perhaps i was seeing things as i thought the Sharks performance was dreadful and is only seen to be acceptable because of how poor the Cheetahs are, apart from Sarel Pretorius. Instead of attacking individuals I will just comment on a few things that i feel are costing us. Firstly our handling is so very poor…shocking actually. Well that is when we actually decide to pass as most time our guys just look to take the contact and try bash through a guy rather than pass the ball- centres biggest culprits here. Then our tackling…our line speed is poor and then we never seen to tackle the guy backwards but rather try grab a hold of him and pull him back towards our side…which means that the opposition is always going forward…and results in us being caught offside a lot!

  • Comment 31, posted at 15.09.14 08:10:00 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Any news on the u/21 game….specifically how Ungerer went?

  • Comment 32, posted at 15.09.14 08:56:09 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 32) :
    Saturday, September 13 2014
    Golden Lions U19 28 – 8 WP U19
    Free State U19 22 – 18 Sharks U19
    Friday, September 12 2014
    EP Kings U19 42 – 7 Leopards U19

    Absa Under 21 Competition Results:
    Saturday, September 13 2014
    Golden Lions U21 42 – 43 WP U21
    Free State U21 43 – 21 Sharks U21
    Friday, September 12 2014
    Border U21 17 – 86 Leopards U21

  • Comment 33, posted at 15.09.14 09:01:17 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 33) : Thanks and OUCH!

  • Comment 34, posted at 15.09.14 09:09:35 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 33) : That is a good win by the EP Kings under 19′s.

  • Comment 35, posted at 15.09.14 09:13:31 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 31) : jeez bud. Go look at that try from Tienie Burger and then come back and say the Cheetahs were poor.

  • Comment 36, posted at 15.09.14 09:36:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 36) : Thats 1 half decent try though Rob…in 80min of rugby. Consider the amount of ball the Sharks lost and turned over, would a good side have needed a last minute penalty to level the game? Our lineouts and scrums give us a good platform but what happens after that has my head in my hands a lot! Im really worried bout this Bulls game cos they looking pretty decent again

  • Comment 37, posted at 15.09.14 09:53:28 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Well we played a bit better and drawing is better than losing at the end of the day..

  • Comment 38, posted at 17.09.14 09:05:03 by RedSharkUtd82 Reply

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