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The Rugby Championship: South Africa v Australia


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks, The Rugby Championship on 27 Sep 2014 at 16:00
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The Boks desperately want a win on home soil.

Today they face the Aussies, who haven’t managed victory at Newlands since the rather infamous and one-sided readmission test of 1992.

Kick-off is at 5pm.

South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Cornal Hendricks, 13 Jan Serfontein, 12 Jean de Villiers (captain), 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Francois Hougaard, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Teboho Mohoje, 6 Marcell Coetzee, 5 Victor Matfield, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.
Replacements: 16 Bismarck du Plessis, 17 Trevor Nyakane, 18 Marcel van der Merwe, 19 Bakkies Botha, 20 Schalk Burger, 21 Cobus Reinach, 22 Pat Lambie, 23 JP Pietersen.

Australia: 15 Israel Folau, 14 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 13 Tevita Kuridrani, 12 Matt Toomua, 11 Joe Tomane, 10 Bernard Foley, 9 Nick Phipps, 8 Ben McCalman, 7 Michael Hooper, 6 Scott Fardy, 5 Rob Simmons, 4 Sam Carter, 3 Sekope Kepu, 2 Saia Fainga’a, 1 James Slipper
Replacements: 16 James Hanson, 17 Benn Robinson, 18 Ben Alexander, 19 James Horwill, 20 Scott Higginbotham, 21 Nic White, 22 Kurtley Beale, 23 Rob Horne.



56 Comments

  • Willie Le Roux having a shocker… Trying too hard… Think he should come off for Lambie at Fullback

  • Comment 1, posted at 27.09.14 17:45:50 by CS Reply
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  • Lambie and Reinach shows the way!!!!

  • Comment 2, posted at 27.09.14 18:48:46 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • Lambie place kicked himself out of the Springbok team :-(

  • Comment 3, posted at 27.09.14 18:48:52 by CS Reply

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  • Have to say… Matfield’s work rate has impressed me more since coming back from retirement than he ever did in the first part of his career!

  • Comment 4, posted at 27.09.14 18:57:51 by CS Reply

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  • Can anyone still question why Meyer selected Burger on the bench ahead of Whiteley?

  • Comment 5, posted at 27.09.14 19:13:40 by CS Reply

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  • I feel Lambie had a good cameo besides the missed kicks. Willie irritated me at some stages and Burger was all over the field. Next game will most prob be a rubber game. I will start lambie, bissie, reinach and burger for sure and give the doc a rest…

  • Comment 6, posted at 27.09.14 20:52:34 by capesharks Reply

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  • I’m really chuffed for Lambie. He showed what he is good at! The kicks weren’t great…but everybody seemed to struggle with place kicking today. It seems to me as if the Boks altered approach really suits Lambie at flyhalf!

  • Comment 7, posted at 27.09.14 20:55:05 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @CS (Comment 5) : Wiping egg off my face. Burger was immense.

    How Hougaard got man of the match I don’t know – thought he was average except on defence. The difference Reinach made when he came on was noticable.

  • Comment 8, posted at 27.09.14 21:25:20 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • BTW excellent try by Lambie – beating something like 5 Wallabies

  • Comment 9, posted at 27.09.14 21:27:38 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • How did Oupa do? Still need to watch the game

  • Comment 10, posted at 27.09.14 22:10:40 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 10) : he did good must say for me all the loosies played well.

  • Comment 11, posted at 27.09.14 22:25:43 by JD Reply
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  • Meyer has done little for Lambie’s confidence except for today. Pat took a while to settle re kicks. His try was EXCELLENT! He also did a lot more all over the park. He was just where he needed to be the whole time. He had probably settled by the end when he got the very difficult kick over. I think he should start next week. Reinach too and Bismarck.

    Reinach made a huge difference in the WHOLE 4 MINUTES that he was on for. I bet every player felt the difference that he made.

    Bismarck also made a big difference.

    Jean de V was great! I was happy for him that he did so well on his home ground in front of so many family members.

    A much better game all round!

  • Comment 12, posted at 28.09.14 00:30:41 by [email protected] Reply

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  • It was a damn good second half. First half was pretty boring.

  • Comment 13, posted at 28.09.14 07:21:48 by PTAShark Reply
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  • @capesharks (Comment 6) : Bissy? Please no! He has been woeful, and Strauss has done nothing to deserve making way for Bissy.

  • Comment 14, posted at 28.09.14 07:48:36 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • wow, lots of enthusiasm here. I saw 70 minutes of pretty rubbish play, followed by a very good last 10 minutes.

    What have I missed? Are our standards really that low?

  • Comment 15, posted at 28.09.14 10:51:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 15) : I agree, I don’t rate Bambie or CR but they both showed up those two Bullarina pretenders for the rubbish they are,for the first time in a long time,but only when they came on ,did Boks look half decent

  • Comment 16, posted at 28.09.14 11:11:45 by benji Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 14) : then how come the whole game from the front row changed leading to that last 15 minute blitz,

  • Comment 17, posted at 28.09.14 11:13:58 by benji Reply
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  • In fact a rank average team and game plan changed dramatically the moment all the sharkies came on as subs,what a joke

  • Comment 18, posted at 28.09.14 11:17:05 by benji Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 18) : SR is a true baramoter of who can play and who can’t which is directly reflected in the state of Bok rugby

  • Comment 19, posted at 28.09.14 12:01:39 by benji Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 17) : Oh please!! All Bismarcks doing? He even fell off a Folau tackle like a wet rag. Maybe because the boks actually managed to get some ball in that period. Till then Australia maintained possession very well. Bismarck didn’t play badly, just hasn’t done anything to warrant ousting Strauss. We are very lucky to have two great hookers. Lambie and Reinach played very well, and added a lot of zip. But to sing Bissy’s hallelujah’s is just a Sharks bias I am afraid. Over the RC Strauss has been the more accurate, and consistent player.

    Oh and a front row consists of three players, not just Almighty Bisse? So Nyakane and vd Merwe did squat in that period?

  • Comment 20, posted at 28.09.14 13:35:45 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • What low standards?

    After 32 games, HM’s record is now 23, 7 and 2 (or 75%).

    At the same point in their tenures, Divvie was 21 and 11 (66%) and White 19, 12 and 1 (61%).

  • Comment 21, posted at 28.09.14 16:25:43 by fyndraai Reply
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  • Furthermore against Australia, Jake White won 6 and lost 5, never recorded a bonus-point victory and was held try-less on 2 occasions.

    Divvie, was 4 and 8, 3 BP victories and try-less on 4 occasions.

    HM is now 4 and 2, 3 BPs and not yet try-less.

  • Comment 22, posted at 28.09.14 16:39:02 by fyndraai Reply
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  • And just to keep you grounded in reality, the try score count against Aus was:

    JW: 18 in 11 matches or 1.64 per match.
    PdV: 27 in 12 matches (2.25 per match).
    HM: 18 in 6 matches (3 per match).

  • Comment 23, posted at 28.09.14 16:43:16 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 18) : You live in lala land if you think it was all a Sharks show? Who do you think provided the front foot ball for the players to dazzle in the last 10? Who do you think wore the Aussies down in the precious 70? Get a grip son, this is a Bok team, not some Sharkie PR exercise.

  • Comment 24, posted at 28.09.14 16:58:38 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • Absolute joke that anyone could suggest dropping Strauss for Bismarck, even a Sharks supporter for that matter

  • Comment 25, posted at 28.09.14 17:11:38 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 25) : …and congratulations to the Sharks for somehow beating your Kings team ;-)

  • Comment 26, posted at 28.09.14 18:37:18 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 26) : Our hooker had shades of Craig Burden in the 2012 Currie Cup. Appalling lineouts

  • Comment 27, posted at 28.09.14 21:40:44 by Ludz Reply

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  • @fyndraai (Comment 23) : *fails to mention All Blacks*

    You fail to take into consideration the strengths of various teams during those tenures.

    Furthermore Meyer hasn’t come close to winning a tri-nations.

    It looks as if the only chance we have of beating the All Blacks is if they send a second rate team to next years RC.

    @Ludz (Comment 27) : That must have been the reason, it was nail biting.

  • Comment 28, posted at 28.09.14 22:02:36 by Talent Reply
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  • Rob, for some reason this particular comments thread force closes the SW app on my phone. All the other threads seem fine though. This thread was fine earlier in the day though so I’m not sure if it’s a particular comment doing it.

    Let me also preempt all you jokers. Yeah, I know it’s probably because someone suggested Strauss/Bissie should start. Good one! :D

  • Comment 29, posted at 28.09.14 22:43:08 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 29) : Van, it’s because Kingcheetah decided to manually edit the reply link in his comment to remove the space between the closing bracket and the colon.

    Yeah, I know.

    The 1.8 version I’m going to release tomorrow has a fix. Right now, though, I’m going to manually edit the comment.

  • Comment 30, posted at 28.09.14 22:48:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 28) :

    Since it does take the strength of the opponents into consideration, we could use the IRB rankings as a barometer.

    The last weekend of Sept
    2006: Ranked 3rd at 87.05
    2010: Ranked 3rd with 85.22
    2014: ranked 2nd with 88.24

  • Comment 31, posted at 29.09.14 03:21:34 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @fyndraai (Comment 31) :

    HM hasn’t won against the All Blacks yet, that’s a big one for me. Also Australia has been poor in the last three years. Just look at their record during the same time and you will see that a win against Australia should really be expected more than a honor. Also, HM has the benefit of playing the Argies, a team SA has never lost against, twice a year.

    You have to look at things in context. I don’t think HM’s record is bad, but there is still a few things that is worrying, not being able to win against NZ being one of them. You can’t win a RWC if you can’t win against NZ. Hopefully this weekend he and the team will be able to start the turn around of that record.

  • Comment 32, posted at 29.09.14 07:54:22 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 32) : The ultimate is still beating NZ in NZ, and secondly just beating NZ. Hopefully Boks can change the second this weekend.

  • Comment 33, posted at 29.09.14 08:12:03 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Finally got to watch the game…and for 70mins. I was wondering why exactly I enjoy rugby.

    Thankfully the last 10mins. alleviated the pain.

  • Comment 34, posted at 29.09.14 08:36:47 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 30) : Ouch! that’s a bit personal! I didn’t do it on purpose. Kind of rude to call somebody a prick and a turd for inadvertently messing up your programme.

    I will resist the urge to reply in kind, will let your mannerisms speak for themselves!! As Webmaster you could have just sent a mail alerting me to the error, instead of being abusive. Kind of sets the standard doesn’t it. A free for all where we can all be abusive, seeing as the Webmaster sets that standard!! Whooohooo but my apologies for buggering up your platform. Will desist from stuffing it up again.

  • Comment 35, posted at 29.09.14 09:12:34 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 27) : Yet your boys had our number in the scrums…

  • Comment 36, posted at 29.09.14 09:20:48 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 35) : sorry, you are right.

    I let myself down and maybe allowed your general demeanour here to spill over.

    I will amend my comment and humbly ask forgiveness.

  • Comment 37, posted at 29.09.14 09:54:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 36) : You can have good scrums, but if lineout isn’t functioning. You’re going to struggle. We botched so many lineouts in your 22 it was scary. Also bad leadership cost us a bit, we have a penalty about 5m out I think, we kick it out for lineout when we knew Martin Ferreira was throwing in for the Sharks. It was an embarrassing lineout performance, Bizzie like when he came on against NZ

  • Comment 38, posted at 29.09.14 10:01:53 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 38) : don’t be trollin’ now…. best to insult Bismarck on a different website, if you catch my drift.

  • Comment 39, posted at 29.09.14 10:15:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 37) : No need Rob, I don’t carry grudges, and as for my demeanour, it is mostly just stirring the pot. Ask JD he has got it figured out.

    It’s not in my nature to hurl insults. And the apology is accepted , with grace. No hard feelings bud.

    Just be careful of the colon and brackets lol, its clogs the system :-)

  • Comment 40, posted at 29.09.14 10:52:52 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 37) : Please just delete my response as well, so that the incident is erased. Thanks

  • Comment 41, posted at 29.09.14 10:55:23 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 38) :
    Kings are a joke, fullstop.

    @KingCheetah (Comment 35) :
    Physician, heal thyself.

  • Comment 42, posted at 29.09.14 10:56:43 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 42) : We’re the most inexperienced side this year though, look I won’t say it hasn’t been frustrating to watch them this season, but to a certain extent I understand why we have struggled, we’re rebuilding from all different levels, coaching and players alike, I’ve seen enough to know that we’re on the right and watch out for some of the gems that are gonna come of the Academy. While it may not seem so now, we’re on the right track. Sharks u19s kicked a last minute penalty to win against our u19s on Saturday, same thing happened against WP u19s the week before. Shane Gates was brilliant for us on Saturday. Guess which Academy he comes from

  • Comment 43, posted at 29.09.14 11:54:54 by Ludz Reply

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  • Why is Jean de Villiers royal game,he had a shocker of a first half,watch the game.
    First time he got the ball he lost it in the tackle,second time he actually passed it to a Wallaby,third time he knocked it on.Yet Mallett and Botha who are so quick to slow mo any discrepancy by other players,never even mention it.
    Yes I know he finished off two tries,but he hardly did anything in both those trys but cross the line,and in both cases he was playing on the wing.
    Also I thought J.P was far superior to Habbanna when he was on the field

  • Comment 44, posted at 29.09.14 12:10:27 by The hound Reply
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  • @Ludz (Comment 43) : Youth structures are great and they are essential…but what is the time delay between having good juniors and a good senior side. And can a union sustain where it is during that time lag. Sharks are having that problem now…we had good juniors but they havnt flowed through due to their being senior personnel in the top side and juniors have gone looking elsewhere

  • Comment 45, posted at 29.09.14 12:12:22 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 45) : I agree, but for us it has been a case of completely rebuilding our union at all levels, so when things are looking promising at the bottom, it’s encouraging. Our Craven Week side were the champs this year and a lot of those boys will start at the Academy next year. It’s all good and well when things are firing at the top, but when the junior structures are looking, it is even better, it’ll ensure good continuity. Robbi Kempson is doing a phenomenal job with those young players

    If we have to bear the grunt of social media and interactive platforms like Sworld until the junior structures start paying dividends, then so be it. There will come a day where people will understand why I stood by these lads through thick and thin.

  • Comment 46, posted at 29.09.14 12:32:09 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 42) : Lol, just now I screw something else up. I guess I will stick to my trade, which is riling you Sharks supporters, all in jest.

  • Comment 47, posted at 29.09.14 13:03:46 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 32) :

    You are correct. Context is important. But it is also subjective. And small sample events such as a RWC or 3N are subject to be influenced by random chance.

    JW for example, did win a RWC without beating the ABs. That was a stroke of good luck for him and thus does not say anything useful about his abilities.

    Your contention, that the current Aus team is weak, is contradicted by the IRB rankings.

    Aus’ rating score today is 87,07
    At the end of Sept 2010, it was 85,22.
    At the same point, in 2006, 86,13

    My position is that, thus far, HM’s results as coach are no worse those of PdV or JW. The aim is to find a measure that is both objective and not overly influenced by chance.\

    Any suggestions?

    The IRB ranking is at least objective.
    The Bok rating today is 89,27. At the same point in ’10 and ’06, it was 85,56 and 87,05.

  • Comment 48, posted at 29.09.14 14:53:01 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 37) :

    He was helping you find bugs.

    From now on I’m going to insert random weird edits into my posts just to see what happens.

    You may thank me later. ;-)

  • Comment 49, posted at 29.09.14 14:55:31 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @Ludz (Comment 46) : Ludz do u believe enough is being done to attract and retain those good younger players at the Union? Of course players always come and go but to build a culture etc u wud need to retain a lot and bring them through. At the same time u need to create chances in the senior sides for those players. Its a very tricky juggling act and not many Unions get it right…unless they have bucks to spend to bridge the gap

  • Comment 50, posted at 29.09.14 15:02:08 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Schalk Burger, showing that class is permanent.

    Take that all you haters!

  • Comment 51, posted at 29.09.14 15:24:38 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Yeah I agree, not many get it right. I do however believe the Kings will get it right. When the Academy was launched in 2011, Kempson had 2 Grey PE boys by his side, the then 16 year old Cyril-John Velleman who is our u19 captain this year and Curwin Bosch, Grey PE u14A flyhalf at the time who looks set to join the Kings in 2016, he’s currently 17 and was a standout at Craven Week and for SA u18 this year. So the culture of the EP Kings is being instilled even before the boys leave school. The Kings have good relations with all the rugby schools in the EC. The schoolboys are starting to believe in what is being built and that is so important.

    The bridge from junior to senior is the tough 1, but there is reason to be optimistic it will become smoother as we go along. Our u19 group for next year will probably make the play-offs and if that is so and we can build the belief at junior level that we can compete with the big boys

  • Comment 52, posted at 29.09.14 15:30:54 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 52) : ok fair enough. So then the question: is Spencer the right man and more importantly does he have the right assistants?

  • Comment 53, posted at 29.09.14 15:42:46 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 53) : I don’t think Carlos is a head coach, backline coach at best. Shaun Sowerby, well he was still playing rugby 2 seasons ago, don’t know where he got the experience to be considered good enough to coach a Currie Cup side’s forwards, but alas he’s there. Michael Horak as defence, well we seem to leaking tries left right and centre. Not convinced at all

  • Comment 54, posted at 29.09.14 16:06:22 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 54) : Its hard to tell a guy he is better as an assistant than a head coach, John Plumtree case in point. Good assistant coaches are crucial. The head coach should be a man manager and strategist nothing more really.

  • Comment 55, posted at 29.09.14 16:18:52 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 55) : Agree completely and I feel that’s where we missing the trick. I hope they come good as a coaching team, but I can’t say they’ve inspired any confidence in me

  • Comment 56, posted at 29.09.14 16:25:56 by Ludz Reply

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