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Sharks contract a dozen young guns for 2015


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks on 29 Oct 2014 at 10:57
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The Sharks have awarded under 19 contracts for next year to 12 promising schoolboys from around the country, three of whom played for SA Schools in 2014.

Speaking to Sharksworld, CEO John Smit admitted that the Sharks’ model in terms of junior recruitment was quite different to that of the Bulls and Western Province, who regularly contract 30 or more players at under 19 level in a given year. “Our model is quite different,” Smit say, “since we’ve historically never been a union that is massively concerned with under 19 and under 21 Currie Cup trophies. We will contract on average between 8 and 12 players a year, whereas the Bulls will try to take 40 – to get in as many under 19 and under 21 players as they can. The reality for us in our environment, which we try to make far more ‘touch and feel’ (like for instance where Bismarck will actually spend time with the under 19 guys), we can’t have 60-70 under 21 players and manage them properly or give them what they need.

“We feel that, in order to keep an 18, 19 or 20 year-old guy happy, you really need to show him some progression. I think it’s impossible to keep 40 18-year-olds happy for 2-3 years because there are only 15 that can play and that’s why the market is flooded with those sort of 21-year-old players who have moved on from the likes of the Bulls and are disgruntled. It’s important for us to pick wisely and then back those guys we get and watch them come through. Last year we did pretty well, with two of our under 19s already playing Currie Cup rugby this year.”

So who do we have coming in 2015? Nearly half of the contracted players attended school in the province, with two of them already no strangers to the set up.

Fullback Chris Lines, from Kearsney, enjoyed a fair bit of under 19 rugby this year despite still being at school and he will add huge experience to an otherwise young backline in 2015. Joining him in the back three is Glenwood’s Morne Joubert, who also made his under 19 debut this year, which unfortunately only lasted half a game before a hamstring injury struck. Joubert, also a fullback, played for SA Schools this year and is a rare talent; the chances are Lines will need to move to the wing to accommodate him.

KZN Craven Week flyhalf Tristan Tedder, also from Kearsney, is also in the mix, as are a pair of strong props from Northwood, Ngoni Chidoma and Kabelo Motloung. Chidoma played for SA Schools and the KZN Craven Week side, while Motloung made the KZN Academy side in 2014.

From outside the province, the Sharks welcome hooker Erich Kankowksi (from Piketberg in the Boland) who is apparently some sort of relative of the more famous Ryan. From the same school comes 1.98m lock Christie van der Merwe, who played for Boland at Craven Week, while another lock Rikus Zwart is 1.97m tall and hails form Noordkaap in Kimberley. Zwart rates Willem Alberts as his hero and is also a fine cricketer.

From Hentie Cilliers in Virginia (the same school that gave us Jean Deysel) we welcome goal-kicking scrumhalf Jaywinn Juries, while 97kg wing Sbusiso “Lomu” Nkosi attended Jeppe in Johannesburg and played Craven Week for the Lions.

The final pair that will come in are both centres; Paarl Gim’s Wayno Visagie and Middelburg’s Barend Smit. Smit played for the SA Schools side at both centre and fullback this year and captained them against Wales.



79 Comments

  • nice . Only 1 Lions player tough

  • Comment 1, posted at 29.10.14 11:01:25 by Zibbie Reply
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  • here’s some stuff from SchoolSportsNews.co.za:

    Tristan Tedder (Kearsney) – Perhaps my favourite player to watch this year. A classic schoolboy flyhalf in every sense, a breath of fresh air when compared to the boring bulky kicking types we so often encounter. He was not at his best at the Craven Week, but I watched him play twice for Kearsney where he controlled the game like a puppeteer. There is something of Stephen Larkham in this fellow, whether it’s his gangly build, the tape on his elbow or his silky demeanor with ball in hand, you just get the feeling that he is something special. The big question is, will he play cricket or rugby after school?

  • Comment 2, posted at 29.10.14 11:09:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • Sibusiso Nkosi (Jeppe Boys) – How on earth did this man not crack the nod for the SA Schools team? I wish I could have spent some time up in Johannesburg to watch him play for Jeppe, because based on his two outings at Craven Week I think he is a superstar. Raw pace and power similar to that of Julian Savea, Nkosi is an out and out athlete who is incredibly destructive with ball in hand. I was away for work when Jeppe played KES in the Premier Interschools series and I’m sad I missed an opportunity to watch him play again.

  • Comment 3, posted at 29.10.14 11:09:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • Looks like a good group with quite a few SA schools guys in there! Hopefully those locks grow another 5cm during the holidays.

  • Comment 4, posted at 29.10.14 11:14:26 by PTAShark Reply
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  • Great to see a young Zim boy have a shot @ emulating Beast. Hope he stays focused. #Ngoni

  • Comment 5, posted at 29.10.14 11:15:18 by bchanakira2 Reply
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  • Sharks have better structures at junior levels imo. It may not translate to good junior level results but it allows for more investment in the player.

    If we can unearth two u21 players a season that are capable of playing for the senior currie cup side then we are doing well.

  • Comment 6, posted at 29.10.14 11:22:01 by Talent Reply
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  • Clear intent there shown in the contracting of locks…seems to be a shortage everywhere of quality locks sticking around. But of a more interesting question: how many of the ‘less good’ u21s have been contracted? Cos eish they were hard to watch

  • Comment 7, posted at 29.10.14 11:22:49 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Swiel off to Harlequins for 4 months…wonder if he will come back..

  • Comment 8, posted at 29.10.14 11:24:07 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 7) : very, very few dude.

  • Comment 9, posted at 29.10.14 11:24:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) : That would be my expectation as well Rob. Would be curious to see how many of the fringe senior guys still stick around…guys like Heimar Williams, Jaco Van Tonder, Sizo Meseko, Francios Kleinhans etc as most are destined for Vodacom Cup at most and maybe a bit part of CC

  • Comment 10, posted at 29.10.14 11:37:06 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Rob, the laaitie that was playing 8th man for KZN in craven week and even captain of the side, is he a sharks player??

  • Comment 11, posted at 29.10.14 11:38:28 by Chippa Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 10) : Ja some talented players there but most of them will only get a run if injuries take down the “top” players.

  • Comment 12, posted at 29.10.14 11:43:19 by JD Reply
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  • @Chippa (Comment 11) : nope, he was signed and sealed for Province long ago, unfortunately.

  • Comment 13, posted at 29.10.14 11:44:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 10) : not sure about Maseko, but the other three are definitely staying

  • Comment 14, posted at 29.10.14 11:44:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • The Nkosi lad is built like the proverbial brick outhouse! Just what we need.

  • Comment 15, posted at 29.10.14 11:46:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) : Could def be some interesting names in that Vodacom Cup side…

  • Comment 16, posted at 29.10.14 11:51:22 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 16) : sigh. Can’t we just kill Vodacom Cup already?

  • Comment 17, posted at 29.10.14 12:03:16 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 17) : If only…if only…Would be interesting to see where these contracted u19s are studying? Varsity College? UKZN or ETA? At the moment only route for KZN to play Varsity Cup is through UKZN hence the question

  • Comment 18, posted at 29.10.14 12:04:47 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 16) :

    I’m hoping we actually do something a little clever next year and use rotation to our advantage in both competitions.

    I think they need to find a core of guys that will play mainly Vodacom cup and pick a captain from that pool…. Heimar Williams or why not even someone left field like Khaya Majola?

    But for the rest, let guys rotate into the Vodacom side from the Super Rugby side every few weeks to keep everyone fresh, while still keeping the Sharks XV strong?

  • Comment 19, posted at 29.10.14 12:05:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • Chris Lines finished school last year already, a year early, so he was at the Academy this entire year.

  • Comment 20, posted at 29.10.14 12:09:03 by Ludz Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 18) : waiting for the dust to settle a little before I can say with certainty.

    But I think it’s likely that most will study through UKZN and play Shield rugby.

    The Sharks want a team in the Varsity Cup. And you can see why. To my mind, UKZN getting into the Cup is probably a higher priority than doing well in Vodacom Cup.

  • Comment 21, posted at 29.10.14 12:12:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 21) : Hope they can make it happen, it should definitely be a higher priority.

  • Comment 22, posted at 29.10.14 12:37:01 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Ludz (Comment 20) : oh is that right? Ok, must have missed that.

  • Comment 23, posted at 29.10.14 12:50:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • Morne Joubert is a superb talent. Very pleased we managed to keep him in Durban

  • Comment 24, posted at 29.10.14 13:15:47 by Villie Reply
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  • Make sure you have that Morne kid tightly wrapped in a long term contract. He is going to be a superstar.

  • Comment 25, posted at 29.10.14 13:19:35 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 25) : you just like his name :)

  • Comment 26, posted at 29.10.14 13:42:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 19) : @robdylan (Comment 21) : Interesting thoughts and i do feel that Varsity Cup should prioritise Vodacom Cup and use Vodacom Cup to keep the Super rugby squad game fit…consistent selection in vodacom cup would mean nothing. Speaking of a captain…is Bismarck the right guy to captain the Super side? I guess if not him who else really

  • Comment 27, posted at 29.10.14 13:46:14 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 27) : I don’t want to open that can of worms. Bissie and Tera are the guys – I just hope they explain to Bissie that he really can’t play every minute of every game.

  • Comment 28, posted at 29.10.14 13:47:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 26) :

    Busted…

  • Comment 29, posted at 29.10.14 13:47:55 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 29) : I know you too well….. you managed to recover from winning the Currie Cup yet?

  • Comment 30, posted at 29.10.14 13:51:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • Hope all the new recruits are happy at the Sharks and have long and fruitful careers.

    Was it really necessary for Smitty to diss other unions and their policies of (successfully) putting silverware in the trophy cabinet – leave that to us muppets / bloggers.

  • Comment 31, posted at 29.10.14 13:57:15 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 30) :

    Currie Cup not really that big a deal for me. Was over it an hour later.

  • Comment 32, posted at 29.10.14 14:17:06 by Morné Reply
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  • Hi guys, are there no rumours about any big signings for next year?

  • Comment 33, posted at 29.10.14 14:17:20 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • If I understand correctly this policy of the Bulls of contracting 40 youngsters bit them a bit in the bum. Were there not reports of senior players being offered much lower contracts as they ran into cash flow problems?

  • Comment 34, posted at 29.10.14 14:29:10 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 33) : apart from the 12 young guns of course :razz:

  • Comment 35, posted at 29.10.14 14:40:43 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • Good on John for speaking up about this. Maybe SA junior rugby can benefit from a draft system similar to that of th US.

  • Comment 36, posted at 29.10.14 15:01:25 by Letgo Reply
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  • I really feel like young players would benefit more if there were some sort of forced distribution of talent. Including contract limits and guidlines.

  • Comment 37, posted at 29.10.14 15:06:05 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 31) : I think it’s more the fact that people diss the Sharks for not doing the same…. he’s just laying out his reasons.

  • Comment 38, posted at 29.10.14 15:06:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 31) : if you don’t like I wrote, please don’t read Brenden Nel’s piece on Supersport today :)

  • Comment 39, posted at 29.10.14 15:11:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 39) : Hey I fully agree with sentiment, I just dont think it was necessary for JS to take other unions on regrding their recruiting policies – leave that to the l;ikes of Brendan Nel, Rob Dylan, Salmo etc.

    As far as the Bulls go – Im more than happy to see them sweep all before them at age group levels only for that dominance not to materialise at senior level – there is a bit of poetic justice in that.

  • Comment 40, posted at 29.10.14 15:22:52 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 36) :

    Well the Lions have bought 3 u21 players from the Bulls . if they are willing to come to the Lions , i think they should be queuing to come to the sharks

  • Comment 41, posted at 29.10.14 15:25:29 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 38) : Sharks can carry on as they are as far as Im concerned. It would be nice to win a bit of silverware at age group level but it is also very satisfying seeing youngsters progress within a setup from juniors to seniors and them knowing that they are valued as well.

  • Comment 42, posted at 29.10.14 15:29:28 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 41) I somehow think many a player would be happy going to the Lions these days based on what they have managed to achieve in 1 short year since they were allowed back into Super Rugby. They look like a really happy bunch of guys and they are all putting their hands up and performing – something is working for them and I think others would be willing to get a taste of that. I think the Lions are a union on the rise.

  • Comment 43, posted at 29.10.14 15:48:07 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • 12 Glenwood Rugby Boys off to Greener Pastures

    Player Club/Team
    Kenny van Niekerk Lions and UJ
    Percy Mngadi Western Province
    Koos Tredoux Lions and UJ
    Kevin du Randt Lions and UJ
    James Venter Lions and UJ
    McMillan Muller Lions and UJ
    Jaco Coetzee Western Province
    Kwazi Khanyile Varsity College and Sharks Academy
    Curtis Jonas Lions an UJ
    Philani Ngcobo Leicester Tigers
    Spamandla Ngcobo SA 7s
    Morné Joubert Sharks and Sharks Academy

    http://ysn.co.za/news/rugby/12-glenwood-rugby-boys-greener-pastures

  • Comment 44, posted at 29.10.14 15:57:48 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 44) : gee, you’d almost swear the Lions CEO had strong links to that school. Almost.

  • Comment 45, posted at 29.10.14 16:24:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 45) : its just the Glenwood lads returning home. These signings are down to Streauli as he was probably the one responsible for bringing them to Durban in the first place

  • Comment 46, posted at 29.10.14 17:31:34 by slammerboy Reply
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  • @Baylion (Comment 44) : Seems like UJ are keen on doing better come Varsity Cup time

  • Comment 47, posted at 30.10.14 07:53:56 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 43) :

    I really hope so . many years of suffering . Hopefully the Lions can turn it around .

  • Comment 48, posted at 30.10.14 09:25:58 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 41) : I heard than the centre we signed Roan Janse van Rensburg, turned down a better offer from the Bulls to join the Lions. If this is true, it is a good thing as it shows players are starting to see a future at the Lions

  • Comment 49, posted at 30.10.14 10:10:33 by Mutley Reply
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  • @Mutley (Comment 49) : he was just pissed off that they overlooked him for the semi

  • Comment 50, posted at 30.10.14 10:16:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • just realised something horrible…. This is the first group of recruits born the year AFTER I finished high school! :oops:

  • Comment 51, posted at 30.10.14 10:37:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 51) : haha feeling rather well aged hey Rob ;) now u can truly claim that famous line: Well back in my day… haha

  • Comment 52, posted at 30.10.14 11:06:12 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 51) : I have the same problem. I recently had a junior position open at my company and as I went through the CV’s and saw applicant’s dates of birth being 1993, 1994 and I thought it wasn’t actually possible having matriculated in 1992. :oops:

  • Comment 53, posted at 30.10.14 12:42:45 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 53) :

    Oom :mrgreen:

  • Comment 54, posted at 30.10.14 14:00:08 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Mutley (Comment 49) : Yep he is off to the Lions along with Mastriet, Orie and one other from the Bulls

  • Comment 55, posted at 30.10.14 14:45:41 by Saffex Reply

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  • @Zibbie (Comment 54) : Wie’s jou fokken Oom!? :twisted:

  • Comment 56, posted at 30.10.14 15:01:16 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 51) : Still a youngster Rob :)

    @SheldonK (Comment 47) : UJ and the Lions have an agreement. For the last two years, I think, all (most as there are a few with Wits too) the youngsters are enrolled as full time students and study for a degree. They play for UJ when the Lions don’t need them. I see a number of this years u21s who didn’t get senior contracts signed with UJ for next year (to finish their studies maybe?)

  • Comment 57, posted at 30.10.14 19:52:23 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Mutley (Comment 49) : I really dont blame him. He was next in line after Serfontein and then this Odendaal chap leap frogged him. He should have started tis cc from game 1. Sad to see him go as I rate him and would have loved to see him play 12 with Serfontein moving to 13 as with Boks next year.
    Hope he does well at the Lions.

  • Comment 58, posted at 31.10.14 02:27:22 by Blue Centurion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 57) :

    Do you maybe know who the u21 are who got new contracts ?

  • Comment 59, posted at 31.10.14 07:37:27 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 59) : That hasn’t been announced yet. I suppose we’ll have to wait and see who rocks up when training commences mid November but the Lions 2014 u20 Boks are still with us next year and about half the squad was u20 this year.

  • Comment 60, posted at 31.10.14 07:57:07 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Blue Centurion (Comment 58) :

    What happened to Dries Swaneoel? Played Baby Boks in 2013 but hasnt played for the U21s this year.

    Lock is another position where the Bulls have ample depth. Out of the U21s Nicolaas Janse van Rensburg looks like the one the Bulls will hang onto. Not surprised Marvi Orie left when you consider they have Irne Herbst, Jannes Kirsten and Dennis Visser.

  • Comment 61, posted at 31.10.14 08:21:32 by slammerboy Reply
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  • @Baylion (Comment 60) : 3 Names i didnt see in that Lions Training squad were Jaco vd Walt, Stephan Vermeulen and Harold Vorster. Of the 3 I think Vorster is one who may be considering his options.

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  • @Baylion (Comment 57) : Well that is a good structure and player management not only on the field but off it too as lets be honest not all guys make it to the top and even those that do are 1 injury away from having nothing so having a degree is crucial. I also think that the application and thinking required for studies helps make smarter rugby players. Something is definitely brewing up in Jhb…will def keep an eye on how it develops.

  • Comment 63, posted at 31.10.14 08:37:18 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @slammerboy (Comment 62) : Jaco and Stephan are both still u20 and another year on junior contracts. I’m sure Ackers will fight to keep Harold

  • Comment 64, posted at 31.10.14 08:37:47 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 64) : they all have good potential. Are you surprised that Jannie Stander moved to the Pumas?

  • Comment 65, posted at 31.10.14 08:49:32 by slammerboy Reply
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  • @slammerboy (Comment 65) : I don’t suppose he would have got much game time at the Lions, better then that he move where he can get game time. And moving to one of the Lions franchise partners means he is still available to the Lions for Super Rugby should they need him.

    I would like to see the Lions move to a similar system the European soccer clubs use where they place young players with potential at feeder clubs for development

  • Comment 66, posted at 31.10.14 09:35:11 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 64) :

    we need to keep van der walt and Voster !!!!

  • Comment 67, posted at 31.10.14 10:52:17 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : Not so sure that Barend Smit is joining the Sharks.

    Heard that he is joining the Lions next year.

  • Comment 68, posted at 02.12.14 13:15:04 by Koos Reply

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  • @Koos (Comment 68) : there does seem to be some doubt about it, yes. My info is that he did sign a contract with the Sharks but then tried to renege on it. Not sure if that’s true or how far he got, if it is indeed the case.

    Do you have anything concrete to share?

  • Comment 69, posted at 02.12.14 13:52:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 69) : my first feeling was if the kid does not want to play for thr Sharks let him go but then again if you signed a contract you must do it even if you later receive better offers so maybe it will be a good thing for him and others to find out that contract are binding even if you’re just 18 years old.

  • Comment 70, posted at 02.12.14 14:46:24 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 70) : I’m now wondering whether Koos isn’t spreading stale info, though.

    Latest I have from the Sharks camp is that he’s going to honour his contract.

  • Comment 71, posted at 02.12.14 14:49:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 70) : Nothing concrete.
    Just comments I heard.
    He will definately add value to the Sharks team next year. Very good player.

  • Comment 72, posted at 03.12.14 12:19:24 by Koos Reply

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  • @Koos (Comment 72) : well, as an SA Schools captain, I would certainly hope that his word would be his bond and that he would honour a contract that he signed.

    The alternative is too horrendous to contemplate. A soulless mercenary at the age of 18?

  • Comment 73, posted at 03.12.14 12:47:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 70) :

    may i point out the irony in that comment ?

  • Comment 74, posted at 03.12.14 13:37:31 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 74) : ja I know but that’s how I feel I did not say that’s how the Sharks do things!!! ;-)

  • Comment 75, posted at 03.12.14 16:15:27 by JD Reply
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  • @Koos (Comment 72) : @robdylan (Comment 73) : did not meant anything against the player as I don’t know him but ja I hope that he will play were he signed first like Rob said otherwise it will really be sad!!!!!

  • Comment 76, posted at 03.12.14 16:19:59 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 73) : Looking at the Lions u19 squad for 2015, it seems that Barend Smit will join the Lions.

  • Comment 77, posted at 10.12.14 09:17:54 by Koos Reply

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  • @Koos (Comment 77) :

    With the Lions history , i would first want to see him run out in a Lions jersey before i get excited .

  • Comment 78, posted at 10.12.14 10:04:24 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Koos (Comment 77) : yes, I fear you’re right.

  • Comment 79, posted at 10.12.14 10:18:49 by robdylan Reply
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