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Swiel set for Northern exposure


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks on 29 Oct 2014 at 11:21
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The Sharks have confirmed that Tim Swiel will play for Harlequins in the UK for the next four month, as part of a loan deal agreed with the Twickenham club.

Swiel is no stranger to the UK, having been born in Taunton in Somerset and the fact that he holds a British passport makes this sort of short-term move far more viable than it would be otherwise. With the young player having battled with injury and thus missing out on much Currie Cup game time, all parties felt that a good block of time on the field would be the best thing for Tim right now.

Tim arrived in the UK last weekend and will remain at Harlequins until February, at which point he will return to the Sharks for Super Rugby.

Good luck, Tim – we hope it goes well.



45 Comments

  • Nice, the Harlequins train at my club sometimes :grin:

  • Comment 1, posted at 29.10.14 11:24:28 by David12246 Reply
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  • @David12246 (Comment 1) : what club is that?

  • Comment 2, posted at 29.10.14 11:26:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • Awesome for swiel! Great to see some loan deals coming through

  • Comment 3, posted at 29.10.14 11:26:45 by PTAShark Reply
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  • I wonder if he will come back…only returning in Feb probably means he wont feature in Super rugby much unless there injuries. With Nick Evans at Quins I wonder if and where he will play

  • Comment 4, posted at 29.10.14 11:33:04 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @David12246 (Comment 1) : University of Surrey

  • Comment 5, posted at 29.10.14 11:35:13 by David12246 Reply

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  • Think it will be good for the young man!!!!! Good luck Tim!!!!

  • Comment 6, posted at 29.10.14 11:41:13 by JD Reply
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  • Don’t Some top players in the UK want to be loaned to the SHarks for SR :mrgreen:

  • Comment 7, posted at 29.10.14 12:03:40 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Is there a chance that Swiel may not come back to the Sharks? As I understand it he has aspirations to play for England one day.

  • Comment 8, posted at 29.10.14 12:37:44 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 8) : I think that maybe a lot has been read into an event…. namely Tim opting not to play SA under 20 in order to keep his options open.

    I don’t think he’s ever expressed so much as an “aspiration” to play for England. Just that he doesn’t see why he should shut that door. I would imagine he has a stronger aspiration to play for the Boks.

  • Comment 9, posted at 29.10.14 12:52:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) : At the moment he should aspire to make the Sharks side first…

  • Comment 10, posted at 29.10.14 13:21:48 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 10) : yes well….

  • Comment 11, posted at 29.10.14 13:40:02 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) : I probably fell for the media hype in that case.

    @SheldonK (Comment 10) : @robdylan (Comment 11) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 12, posted at 29.10.14 13:45:40 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Good News.

    Hope he comes back a much improved player!

  • Comment 13, posted at 29.10.14 14:32:00 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • I have a feeling he will stay in the UK. The Sharks have hardly embraced his talents……something the Sharks have a habit of doing with talented players

  • Comment 14, posted at 29.10.14 14:51:10 by Saffex Reply

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  • True, but then we havent exactly been exposed to those talents.

  • Comment 15, posted at 29.10.14 15:57:21 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 15) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 16, posted at 29.10.14 16:26:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Saffex (Comment 14) :

    Will depend on how it goes i think.

    If he gets short thrift like MS in France, then maybe not.

    That said, for a young and talented player, that is where the smart money is. More cash and less games in a season. There’s also less contact as its a more tactical slower game in the Premiership.

  • Comment 17, posted at 29.10.14 16:52:02 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Good luck to Tim! Hope the break from Durban works out for him, sometimes a different environment does a world of good. It took a change of coaching to get the best of many players (as criticized as White is, something clicked with Sithole). I’d love to see Swiel back in Feb after a few months of solid rugby and a clear head.

  • Comment 18, posted at 30.10.14 02:15:13 by Here be dragons Reply

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  • Can some one please enlighten me ,Brendan Venter is contracted to two unions the Sharks and Saracens,Both unions are so dependant on his talent that they are prepared to settle for half his time,rather than not have him at all.At both unions he is the top tactical man,and has the final say on the game plan.
    Here’s my question,if the Sharks are prepared to release Swiel for a British sojourn,why doesn’t he go to Saracens.He would be playing in a similar system,and his game would be much more in keeping with the Sharks game when he comes back.
    Or am I missing some thing here.

  • Comment 19, posted at 30.10.14 10:45:28 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 19) : Because Saracens don’t have a place for him and harlequins do. Why pay for a player you don’t need?

  • Comment 20, posted at 30.10.14 10:51:02 by gregkaos Reply
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  • Glad for Tim and hope this is a good opportunity for him to be exposed to a different atmosphere, grow and build up some confidence, coming into the S15 next year.

  • Comment 21, posted at 30.10.14 12:21:04 by stevovo Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 19) :

    Would be great for the Sharks, but whats in it for Saracens?
    They’re the top English club and have Farrell, starting English flyhalf, as well as Charlie “Mr. Reliability” Hodgson on their books.

    Along with that they have young Nils Mordt, the Enlgand Saxons flyhalf.
    Yup, Nils is family of Ray.

    So there’s really just no place for Swiel at Saracens.

  • Comment 22, posted at 30.10.14 12:22:17 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Never convinced of his special talent? He struggled. 1. Lambie, 2. Fred (look after him he will leave) 3. Lionel and then Tim ?
    we should have never let the young du Preez go. He is going to be good.

  • Comment 23, posted at 30.10.14 12:41:27 by Observer Reply

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  • @Observer (Comment 23) : Tim as a counter-attacking fullback?

  • Comment 24, posted at 30.10.14 12:42:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 24) : @Observer (Comment 23) : I agree ,this is more hype than substance,he cost the Sharks 3 SR games,Van T should be FINALY given a chance

  • Comment 25, posted at 30.10.14 13:12:17 by benji Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 22) : So basically what you are saying is Brendan really couldn’t swing it at Sarries,or is it because Swiel was Jakes protege who he brought from U.C.T.
    I always thought Robert du Preez was just loaned to Maties,is he now officially off our books.

  • Comment 26, posted at 30.10.14 13:34:04 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 26) :

    Nah, no comment on Venter. Have met him a few times and have great admiration for the guy. He, more than anybody else, is probably responsible for where Sarries are today, from a playing perspective.

    Just saying that there is no upside for Sarries in taking on Swiel. Their cupboard is full with proven flyhalves, to the extent they dont need to shopping around Durban looking for talent.

  • Comment 27, posted at 30.10.14 13:49:50 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 27) : whereas Quins, on the other hand, have a short-term injury situation that they need cover for.

    No brainer.

  • Comment 28, posted at 30.10.14 13:55:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 28) :

    Yeah exactly.

    And lets be honest – Quins have been pretty rubbish for several seasons now.
    Much more likely that Swiel will get some game time there than at Saracens, who are one of the top clubs in Europe, where he’d be fourth in line for a start.

  • Comment 29, posted at 30.10.14 14:17:24 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Observer (Comment 23) : Rubbish – Swiel is better than Fred and Cronje

  • Comment 30, posted at 30.10.14 14:43:35 by Saffex Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 24) : Lack “Cahunnas” – Bit soft. How about Fred at flyhalf and Pat at fullback with lionel on the bench ?

  • Comment 31, posted at 30.10.14 14:44:44 by Observer Reply

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  • @Observer (Comment 31) : I really hope you are joking,the only place for Pat is 10,even HM can see that took him a bit of time,but he’s finally come around.He needs to be left there to hone his game.I look forward to seeing him in partnership with Wright or Ungerer.

  • Comment 32, posted at 30.10.14 15:45:58 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 26) : He was initially only loaned to Maties for the duration of the Varsity Cup. He made an immediate impression, WP managed to get him released from his Sharks obligations and he signed a 2 year contract with them.

  • Comment 33, posted at 30.10.14 16:21:55 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Saffex (Comment 30) : lol do you just enjoy being different or do u have a nack for seeing what no one else can?? All the hype u guys had bout him initially when the news broke that he was coming here died quickly. Maybe he was great in cpt but at the sharks he was a dud in virtually every game. And no ways is he better then fred even this cronje oukie is better then him here in durbs. Maybe that talent u talk about wil be realized under gold though hey. Maybe he just didnt gel with jakes style.

  • Comment 34, posted at 30.10.14 19:13:22 by Stiko85 Reply

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  • @Saffex (Comment 30) : Bwahaha !
    I didn t realise you re overseas and haven t seen any of the sharks matches this year!
    Surely that s the only explanation you can offer for that ridiculous statement?

  • Comment 35, posted at 30.10.14 19:55:50 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • Brilliant concept if executed properly. I hope it doesn’t have a lot of Gary Gold influence though. He once lent Nick Koster out & we almost never heard of him again. Hope this move is fruitful though.

  • Comment 36, posted at 30.10.14 20:20:45 by AP8 Reply

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  • @Saffex (Comment 30) : What has Swiel shown us at top level that makes you say that?

  • Comment 37, posted at 30.10.14 20:45:16 by David12246 Reply

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  • @David12246 (Comment 37) : LOL the thing about Saffex is that he has no real knowledge about Rugby, but posts in a tone that he is the be all and end all. The tone of his posts are also very condescending, which just means I take nothing he says seriously. In common American parlance, he would be referred to as an asshat. ;-) :mrgreen: :razz:

  • Comment 38, posted at 31.10.14 01:25:29 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Observer (Comment 23) : Fred is third on that list and is in danger of being overtaken by Tim (I think Tim must focus on 15). With Brendan back the guys will get coaching and their natural talents will come out.

  • Comment 39, posted at 31.10.14 07:49:20 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @Observer (Comment 31) : Stop it.

  • Comment 40, posted at 31.10.14 07:51:32 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • Fred was one of the jw(ahole) casualties!
    Watch this space as Brendon/Gary help him back to his full potential/form as when we won the CC. :razz:

  • Comment 41, posted at 31.10.14 08:34:21 by Observer Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 32) : Pesonally i don’t think HM is convinced yet, judging from the squad he chose 4 this end of year tour. With MS, Johan and pollard at FH its clear lambie is going to cover fullback from the bench with his golden boy le roux getting the lions share of the playing time there. Why else would he put four flyhalfs in the squad if he isnt planning to use pat as a bench warmer for willie. The only time pat will play FH wil be when goose gets injured and old age catch up with steyn.

  • Comment 42, posted at 31.10.14 09:57:07 by Stiko85 Reply

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  • @Stiko85 (Comment 42) : Not true. HM has specifically said that Goosen is being picked as a 15.

  • Comment 43, posted at 31.10.14 10:31:49 by jonnow Reply

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  • @jonnow (Comment 43) : Ok i apologize. Have to admit i didnt read the post about the team and there positions before hand. I just hope he sticks with that decision then. Lambie and pollard has been pretty awesome

  • Comment 44, posted at 31.10.14 17:03:05 by Stiko85 Reply

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  • @Stiko85 (Comment 44) : naughty naughty :)

  • Comment 45, posted at 31.10.14 23:49:21 by robdylan Reply
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