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Black Monday?


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 8 Dec 2014 at 12:39
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Well, this isn’t really meant to be any sort of reference to load-shedding, but perhaps it’s apt all the same…

No, rather, I’ve opted to dub today “Black Monday” due to the fact that for Sharks supporters it really is a very dark day, given the absolute dearth of news (to go with the power). Those who’ve been reading this site since it started almost six years ago will know that I hate letting a day go by without some snippet of information, whether meaningful or not. Today, I got nothing for ya!

Let’s rather take the opportunity to chew the fat a little. Here’s my challenge to you all.

Name two alternate Sharks starting 15s for Super Rugby, using the players we have available. The proviso is this – one of the teams MUST be strong enough to push the Crusaders in Christchurch. The other must be strong enough to start as favourites against the Bulls at Kings Park.

Have fun and off we go!



75 Comments

  • Q question.
    How many players are returning from japan?
    I don’t want to go make a monkey of myself and pick players who won’t return again?

  • Comment 1, posted at 08.12.14 12:47:19 by Shane Hansen Reply
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  • @Shane Hansen (Comment 1) : hi Shane

    So we know about
    JP Pietersen
    Ryan Kankowski
    Frans Steyn

    Rumours about another….

  • Comment 2, posted at 08.12.14 12:53:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • Christchurch game:

    15. SP?
    14. JPP
    13. Sithole
    12. Steyn
    11.Mvovo
    10.Pat
    9. Reinach
    8.Tera
    7.Willem Alberts
    6.Marcell Coetzee
    5.PSDT
    4.Botha
    3.Jannie
    2. Bismark
    1.Beeast

    Bulls:

    15. Swiel
    14.Jordaan
    13. Williams
    12. Esterhuizen
    11. chavanga
    10. Zeilnga
    9. Wright
    8. Kanko – almost forgot about him
    7. Oosthuizen
    6. Bothma
    5. Wensel
    4. Lewies
    3. Adriaanse
    2. Cooper
    1. Thomas the Tank

  • Comment 3, posted at 08.12.14 12:53:52 by PTAShark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : You and your teasing….. ;-)

  • Comment 4, posted at 08.12.14 12:54:18 by Shakes34 Reply

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  • Hey Rob way of the point do you have any idea when the Sharkcage will close over the festive season and when it will reopen? I did try to phonebut cacan’t get hold of them so I presume they’re already closed? !?!

  • Comment 5, posted at 08.12.14 12:58:10 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 5) : according to the Sharks website, they were closed on Monday – Wednesday last week for a stock take but should be open again now.

  • Comment 6, posted at 08.12.14 13:00:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • @PTAShark (Comment 3) : I like what you’ve done, but I’m worried about your “Bulls” team, especially at the back.

  • Comment 7, posted at 08.12.14 13:01:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 7) : Don’t worry, me too! I basically wrote down the guys I remember and allocated them in two minutes without thinking too hard about it. Bit worried about 15 across the board actually.

  • Comment 8, posted at 08.12.14 13:06:54 by PTAShark Reply
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  • @PTAShark (Comment 8) : Certainly gives a good indication of depth if you can come up with those two so quickly.

    Would think Cronje had done enough to get a look in somewhere, after a disappointing season from Fred.

  • Comment 9, posted at 08.12.14 13:10:32 by Shakes34 Reply

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  • Crusaders:

    1. Beast
    2. du Plessis
    3. Adriaanse
    4. Wentzel
    5. du Toit
    6. Coetzee
    7. Alberts
    8. Mtembu
    9. Reinach
    10. Lambie
    11. Mvovo
    12. Williams
    13. Sithole
    14. Pietersen
    15. Marais

    Bulls:
    1. du Toit
    2. Cooper
    3. du Plessis
    4. Botha
    5. Lewies
    6. Bothma
    7. Oosthuizen
    8. Kankowski
    9. Wright
    10. Zeilinga
    11. Chavanga
    12. Steyn
    13. Jordaan
    14. Ndungane
    15. Cronje

  • Comment 10, posted at 08.12.14 13:11:19 by David12246 Reply

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  • @Shakes34 (Comment 9) : I’m betting on a huge pre season from Fred to get him into some form. Have to support my hometown player!

  • Comment 11, posted at 08.12.14 13:12:33 by PTAShark Reply
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  • Crusaders
    15)SP
    14)Ndungane
    13)Jordaan
    12)Steyn
    11)Mvovo
    10)Lambie
    9)Reinach
    8)Kankowski
    7)Alberts
    6)Coetzee
    5)PSDT
    4)Lewies
    3)Adriaanse
    2)Bismarck
    1)Tank du Toit

    Bulls

    15)Van Tonder
    14)Pietersen
    13)Sithole
    12)Esterhuizen
    11)Chavanga
    10)Zeilinga
    9)Ungerer
    8)Bothma
    7)Oosthuizen
    6)Mtembu
    5)Wentzel
    4)Botha
    3)Jannie
    2)Cooper
    1)Beast

  • Comment 12, posted at 08.12.14 13:31:45 by BarendL Reply
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  • @PTAShark (Comment 11) : I think Fred’s problem this year was simply that Jake had no faith in him – and made that perfectly clear.

  • Comment 13, posted at 08.12.14 13:38:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 13) : Yep, hoping he flourishes under Gold!

  • Comment 14, posted at 08.12.14 13:41:36 by PTAShark Reply
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  • I think the Boks and our regulars will always be there. I am however interested to see if the coaches etc will give much Super rugby game time to Ndungane, Williams, Van Tonder, Swiel, Wright, Fisher, Hay, Kleinhans, Majola, Cronje. Of course inuries play their part but i just wonder if those guys are part of Plan A rotation

  • Comment 15, posted at 08.12.14 13:45:15 by SheldonK Reply

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  • I guess all these selections are going to lead themselves? :)

  • Comment 16, posted at 08.12.14 14:07:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • 15 Mvovo
    14 Pieterson
    13 Sithole
    12 Steyn
    11 Jordaan
    10 Lambie
    9 Reinach
    8 Bothma
    7 Alberts
    6 Coetzee
    5 PSdT
    4 Oosthuizen
    3 Janneman
    2 Bissie (c)
    1 Beast

    16 Cooper
    17 Thomas the Tank
    18 Adriaanse
    19 Botha
    20 Mtembu
    21 Ungerer
    22 Cronje
    23 SP

  • Comment 17, posted at 08.12.14 14:12:18 by Southern_Shark Reply
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  • Here are my XVs

    Christchurch:
    15 Steyn
    14 Pietersen
    13 Sithole
    12 Williams
    11 Mvovo
    10 Lambie
    9 Reinach
    8 Kankowski
    7 Ps du Toit
    6 Coetzee
    5 Lewies
    4 Oosthuizen
    3 J du Plessis
    2 B du Plessis (capt)
    1 Mtawarira

    Kings Park:
    15 Marais
    14 Ndungane
    13 Jordaan
    12 Esterhuizen
    11 Chavhanga
    10 Zeilinga
    9 Wright
    8 Mtembu (capt)
    7 Alberts
    6 Bothma
    5 Wentzel
    4 Botha
    3 Adriaanse
    2 Cooper
    1 T du Toit

    Some concerns here. We don’t have enough depth at 6, 9, 13, 11 or 15

  • Comment 18, posted at 08.12.14 14:12:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • If it is Bekker, I wonder if he can still ad value. a couple of years in Japan tends to make a guy soft, plus how old is he now? 33? Still he was an awesome super rugby player in his day….

  • Comment 19, posted at 08.12.14 14:36:04 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 19) : 31, still a laaitie :grin:

  • Comment 20, posted at 08.12.14 14:38:10 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 19) : it’s not Bekker.

  • Comment 21, posted at 08.12.14 14:39:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 13) :
    I disagree. Some concerns around his defence and decision-making on attack.

    Still young though, so lets see how he goes.

  • Comment 22, posted at 08.12.14 14:42:18 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 21) : is it a south african? pushing my luck here. cant help it :oops:

  • Comment 23, posted at 08.12.14 14:42:32 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • 15 van Tonder
    14 Ndungane
    13 Fisher
    12 Esterhuizen
    11 Chavanga
    10 Zeilinga
    9 Ungerer
    8 Kankowski
    7 Mtembu (c)
    6 Majola
    5 Wentzel
    4 Lewies
    3 Stevens
    2 Cooper
    1 Dale

    16 Monde
    17 Mienie
    18 Wiehan Hay
    19 du Preez 1
    20 du Preez 2
    21 Wright
    22 Williams
    23 Swiel

  • Comment 24, posted at 08.12.14 14:44:52 by Southern_Shark Reply
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  • Riaan Viljoen?

  • Comment 25, posted at 08.12.14 14:51:48 by andredewaal Reply
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  • Crusaders

    Marais, SP
    Pietersen, JP
    Jordaan, P
    Esterhuizen, A
    Chivanga, T
    Lambie, P
    Reinach, C
    Kankowski, R
    Bothma, R
    Coetzee, M
    Du Toit, PS
    Botha, M
    Du Plessis, J
    Du Plessis, B
    Du Toit, T

    Stevens, M
    Cooper, M
    Mtawarira, B
    Oosthuizen, E
    Alberts, W
    Ungerer, S
    Zeilinga, F
    Esterhuizen, A

  • Comment 26, posted at 08.12.14 14:54:45 by Letgo Reply
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  • Bulls:

    Van Tonder, J
    Ndungane, O
    Sithole, S
    Steyn, F
    Lwazi, M
    Zeilinga, F
    Ungerer, S
    Mtembu, T
    Alberts, W
    Majola, K
    Lewies, S
    Oosthuizen, E
    Stevens, M
    Cooper, M
    Mtawarira, B

    Du Plessis, J
    Du Plessis, B
    Du Toit, T
    Du Toit, PS
    Coetzee, M
    Kankowski, R
    Reinach, C
    Lambie, P

  • Comment 27, posted at 08.12.14 14:55:08 by Letgo Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 21) : Based on who we have lost either Deysel or Keegan personally I hope the latter

  • Comment 28, posted at 08.12.14 14:55:11 by durbsguy Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 18) : Are Conrad Hoffman and Lionel Cronje staying on with us for super rugby? Thought they were just here for currie cup and potentially heading back to the Brumbies?

    u saying we don’t have enough depth at 13, I take it that means they deemed Waylon Murray not up to scratch?

  • Comment 29, posted at 08.12.14 14:55:49 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • @durbsguy (Comment 28) : ching

  • Comment 30, posted at 08.12.14 15:04:40 by robdylan Reply
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  • @RuckingFun (Comment 29) : woah, hang on!

    1) Yes, both are with us for at least the next 2 years
    2) Waylon is doing fine, according to what I’ve heard. Just because I’m not prepared to rush him straight back into a super Rugby starting lineup doesn’t mean he’s been got rid of.

  • Comment 31, posted at 08.12.14 15:05:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 31) : U mean they havnt made Waylon Murray captain yet?

  • Comment 32, posted at 08.12.14 15:20:32 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 32) : shocking, I know!

  • Comment 33, posted at 08.12.14 15:38:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 33) : Maybe next week ;) I also saw in some photos Stephan Lewies in a sling…training ground knock?

  • Comment 34, posted at 08.12.14 15:43:34 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 30) : I’m praying that ching means the rumours are around Keegan?I was hoping that,he was Brendan’s captain so I reckon he does rate him highly!My teams will be lead by Bissie in Christchurch and by Mtembu at Kings Park!
    @robdylan (Comment 18) : Do you think that PsdT makes a better flank than Oosthuizen or just based on this excercise?

  • Comment 35, posted at 08.12.14 15:45:24 by BarendL Reply
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  • Off topic,do you guys think the story about Etzebeth and Toulon has any merit?Its sad when current Bokke leave as well,no need to stay when you get selected no matter where you play and only 23 years old!

  • Comment 36, posted at 08.12.14 15:47:58 by BarendL Reply
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  • I’ll give this my best shot!
    Crusaders ………….. Bulls
    01. Beast Mtawarira ……./ ….. 1. Thomas
    02. Bismarck ….. / ….. 2. Kyle Cooper
    03. Jannie ….. / ….. 3. Adriaanse
    04. Lewies ….. / ….. 4. Botha
    05. PSDT ….. / ….. 5. Wentzel
    06. Marcell Coetzee ….. / ….. 6. Bothma
    07. Willem Alberts ….. /….. 7. Oosthuizen
    08. Terra ….. / ….. 8. Kankowski
    09. Cobus Reinach ….. / ….. 9. Wright
    10. Lambie ….. /….. 10. Zeilinga
    11. Mvovo ….. / ….. 11. Chavanga
    12. Francois Steyn …../ ….. 12. Esterhuizen / Williams
    13. Sithole ….. / ….. 13. Williams / Esterhuizen
    14. JP P ….. / ….. 14. Ndungane
    15. SP ….. / ….. 15. Mvovo

  • Comment 37, posted at 08.12.14 15:53:55 by [email protected] Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 34) : no clue what the issue is. I asked, but didn’t get an answer

  • Comment 38, posted at 08.12.14 16:04:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • @BarendL (Comment 35) : yes, the rumours do concern Keegan. No clue if there’s any truth to them though.

    I think PS is a better flank than Ettas, yes, but the justification here is more because we now have 5 good locks, but only 3 really good flanks.

  • Comment 39, posted at 08.12.14 16:06:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • @BarendL (Comment 36) : I don’t rate Etzebeth anyway. I think he’s a jumped up showpony – and trailer trash to boot.

  • Comment 40, posted at 08.12.14 16:07:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 40) :
    Eish.

  • Comment 41, posted at 08.12.14 16:11:39 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 39) : Fair point…in a space of a couple of months we went from having no locks to overstocked and from alot of quality flanks to being a bit thin,although,if true,Keegan would balance that out quite nicely!
    @robdylan (Comment 40) : I kinda liked him in the EOYT,got back that little menace he had 2 years ago…strong feelings you have there Rob,hahaha,although personally I wouldn’t dare telling him as much!Big pair of cahoonas Sir! :shock: :lol:

  • Comment 42, posted at 08.12.14 16:15:24 by BarendL Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 40) : No please Rob, tell us how you really feel :twisted:

  • Comment 43, posted at 08.12.14 16:30:01 by Southern_Shark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 40) : Harsh, very harsh.

  • Comment 44, posted at 08.12.14 16:41:26 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 44) : @Southern_Shark (Comment 43) : @Big Fish (Comment 41) : not a popular opinion? :roll:

  • Comment 45, posted at 08.12.14 16:45:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 45) : Hey, its not without merit. :|

  • Comment 46, posted at 08.12.14 16:49:16 by Southern_Shark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 45) : I have never heard or seen anything from him that warants the trailer park jibe. I agree on his form over the last 2 seasons.

  • Comment 47, posted at 08.12.14 16:56:05 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 6) : thanx sorry I missed that, will try again tomorrow.

  • Comment 48, posted at 08.12.14 18:11:35 by JD Reply
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  • Rob, any idea when the new kit will be released?

  • Comment 49, posted at 08.12.14 18:36:33 by David12246 Reply

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  • @David12246 (Comment 49) : I would imagine in time for Super Rugby 2016.

    Sharks change kit every other year.

  • Comment 50, posted at 08.12.14 19:38:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • unlike most I feel too many changes do more harm than good for the “team”

    I think the strongest possible team should play where possible, with maybe 1 or 2 per match, all it takes is a loss to sow doubt within the team.

    I also feel the likes of Mvovo or Steyn to possibly play 15 as SP is far to erratic, or play Fisher at 15 where he did show promise when tested.

    So my main 15 would be

    15 Steyn
    14 JpP
    13 Jordaan
    12 Esterhuizen
    11 Mvovo
    10 Lambie
    09 Reinach
    08 Kanko
    07 Alberts
    06 Marcel
    05 PSDT
    04 Lewies/Botha
    03 Jannie
    02 Bismark
    01 Beast/Du Toit

    16 Cooper
    17 Du Toit/Beast
    18 Adriaanse
    19 Botha/Lewies
    20 Bothma
    21 Ungerer
    22 Fisher
    23 Sbura

    Backup
    SP
    Odwa
    Chavangha
    Stevens
    Cronje
    Wright
    Zeilinga
    Wentzel
    Heimer
    Van Tonder
    Khaya
    Chadwick
    Monde
    Mienie
    Wiehan Hay
    Du Preez 1
    Du Preez 2
    Oosthuizen
    Swiel
    Waylon
    Hoffman

    That’s 21 extras of which all or most can be used for rotation, but whole sale changes are never a good thing, Also I know there are a few names I am not thinking of, like the blonde lock from Border who’s name I just cant think of.

  • Comment 51, posted at 08.12.14 20:47:33 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 51) : you’re in for a LOOOOOONG season bud :)

    Rotation is the mantra to which both GG and BV adhere.

  • Comment 52, posted at 08.12.14 21:10:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • lol Hi Rob, Nope I take it as it comes they can rotate as they wish, I just know that for the most it back fires, I will happily be wrong :wink: I was in a long season this past season when they rotated and watched things fall apart.

    but like I said, few changes would prolly be ok, its like changing the whole every week which would be killing.

  • Comment 53, posted at 08.12.14 22:13:42 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 51) : You mean Astle… :mrgreen: ?

  • Comment 54, posted at 08.12.14 22:37:36 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 40) : You sound like you’d get on well with my brother…he feels quite strongly about that particular topic! :mrgreen: :lol:

  • Comment 55, posted at 08.12.14 22:39:45 by pastorshark Reply
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  • My Crusaders side:
    1. Beast
    2. Bismarck
    3. Jannie
    4. Botha
    5. PSdT
    6. Marcell
    7. Alberts
    8. Kanko
    9. Reinach
    10. Lambie
    11. Mvovo
    12. Steyn
    13. Sbura
    14. JPP
    15. Hugh Reece-Edwards

  • Comment 56, posted at 08.12.14 22:43:20 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Only kidding about Reece-Edwards…although he was always a favourite of mine! I’ll go with SP and back him to find the form he showed under BV in the 2013 Currie Cup…

  • Comment 57, posted at 08.12.14 22:45:19 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Perhaps these selections are a bit unorthodox, however after watching the Springboks on the eoyt I’m feeling rather tired with traditional SA styles. So, Christchurch; 1.Beast 2.Cooper 3.Jannie 4.Alberts 5.PSDT 6.Mthembu 7.Coetzee 8.Daniel(if the rumors are true)/Kanko 9.Reinach 10.Lambie 11.Ndungane 12.Jordaan 13.JPP 14. Sithole 15.Mvovo. Bulls 1.Du Toit 2.Du Plesis 3.Adriaanse 4.Botha 5.Lewies 6.Bothma 7.Oosthuizen 8.Majola 9.Wright 10.Zeilinga 11.Van Tonder 12.Steyn 13.Esterhuizen 14.Marias 15.Cronje…Some out there selections

  • Comment 58, posted at 09.12.14 01:47:06 by Talent Reply
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  • Don’t know how to edit from my phone. Team to face Bulls:
    1.Beast
    2.Bismarck
    3.Jannie
    4.Botha
    5.Psdt
    6.Coetzee
    7.Alberts
    8.Mthembu
    9.Reinach
    10.Lambie
    11.Jpp
    12.Steyn
    13.Esterhuizen
    14.Sithole
    15.Mvovo

    Crusaders: More ball in hand approach
    1.Du Toit
    2.Cooper
    3.Adrianse
    4.Alberts
    5.Lewies
    6.Mthembu
    7.Coetzee
    8.Daniel(if he returns) Kanko
    9.Wright
    10.Lambie
    11.Esterhuizen(used as a decoy runner/high ball fetch/1st channel carrier/inside center defence)
    12.Steyn
    13.Jordaan
    14.Sithole
    15.Mvovo

  • Comment 59, posted at 09.12.14 02:13:00 by Talent Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 51) :

    I only picked to completely different teams since I thought it was the point of the article. I don’t think I’d ever have more than, let’s say 5 alternate players to my first choice. So I would certainly rotate, but always try to keep the core of the first choice together.

  • Comment 60, posted at 09.12.14 08:43:02 by Letgo Reply
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  • Shoot!! I picked a full team for the Crusaders, I forgot we only need 13. :twisted:

  • Comment 61, posted at 09.12.14 09:43:01 by Southern_Shark Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 61) : that was the point of the article. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 62, posted at 09.12.14 10:08:02 by robdylan Reply
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  • Time for a Black Tuesday article.

  • Comment 63, posted at 09.12.14 12:00:37 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 63) : was thinkin the same thing ;-)

  • Comment 64, posted at 09.12.14 12:23:22 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • After the EOYT I really thought I could use a break from watching rugby…I’m over it now, the SR season can start again!

  • Comment 65, posted at 09.12.14 13:02:33 by HeinF Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 63) : you know, I was tempted…. and yet? What should I put in it?

  • Comment 66, posted at 09.12.14 14:34:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • Great Black Monday article Rob.

    My favourite topic locks :

    Our long term Future :

    1. Stephan Lewies
    2. PSDT
    3. Etienne

    Nor Etienne or PSDT are born and bred flanks but they can help out.

    Support/Alternate players if we have injuries or Springboks :

    1. Botha
    2. Planet

    Not convinced about JC – he needs balls, maybe a few years in France will harden him up ?

    5 Quality locks enough for a long season ?

  • Comment 67, posted at 09.12.14 14:36:14 by Observer Reply

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  • @Observer (Comment 67) : well, if previous seasons are anything to go by, even 10 wouldn’t be enough.

    Let’s hope we have better luck with injuries. It’s always our locks that are hardest hit.

  • Comment 68, posted at 09.12.14 15:25:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 62) : I know it was the point boet, just saying how I felt it should be selected, it is also why I added the extra 20 plus players names.
    ;-)

  • Comment 69, posted at 09.12.14 15:33:26 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 68) : Now we know why Matfield hardly ever got injured :mrgreen:

  • Comment 70, posted at 09.12.14 15:37:56 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Man I hope the rumours about Keegan are true, would be great to have him back, playing to his potential with a coach who believes in what he can bring to the table

  • Comment 71, posted at 09.12.14 17:13:01 by stevovo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 60) :

    I also picked two completely different teams for the same reason!

  • Comment 72, posted at 09.12.14 17:49:55 by [email protected] Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 21) :

    Ohhh . an Entertaining scrumhalf ?

  • Comment 73, posted at 10.12.14 09:01:39 by Zibbie Reply
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  • Best Sharks side:

    15. SP 14. JP 13. Esterhuizen 12. Frans Steyn 11. Sithole 10. Lambie 9. Reinach 1. Beast 2. Bismark 3. Jannie 4. PSDT 5. Lewies 6. Coetzee 7. Oosthuizen 8. Mtembu

    Alternate:

    15. v/Tonder 14. Mvovo 13. Fisher 12. Williams 11. Jordaan 10. Swiel 9. Wright 1. du Toit 2. Cooper 3. Adriaanse 4. Botha 5. Astle 6. Bothma 7. Alberts 8. Kankan

  • Comment 74, posted at 11.12.14 14:20:55 by Saffex Reply

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  • 1. du Toit/Chadwick
    2. Bismarck
    3. Adrianse
    4. Botha
    5. Du Toit
    6. Coetzee
    7. Mtembu
    8. Kanko
    9. Reinach
    10. Lambie
    11. Mvovo
    12. Esterhuizen
    13. Sithole/Jordaan
    14. JP
    15. ????

    Unless Brendan and co can lift Jannie and Beast’s game – they havnt even scrummed well if we are perfectly honest with ourselves – I see no reason why we shouldn’t try out the youngsters

  • Comment 75, posted at 12.12.14 11:12:31 by pienaar111 Reply

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