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Sharks at Newlands – Post Mortem


Written by Maria Delport (Letgo)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 9 Mar 2015 at 10:37
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The Sharks were beaten by the Stormers. It was a hard match to watch, especially after so much of the emphasis last week was on the referees and how “THEY” lost the match. To be trampled like we were against the Stormers, after our team was boosted with Sprinbok returnees and after, in our opinions, we “technically” beat the Bulls, was painful.

The first half wasn’t all that bad though. Within the first few minutes Pat Lambie put Odwa Ndungane through a small gap, for perhaps, our first clean break of the season. The Sharks did effectively get 3 points from that play, Lambie obliging with an easy penalty.

Soon after, the Stormers decided to drive a kickable penalty deep into our 22. They were camped in our 22 for 15 minutes, but mostly because the Sharks couldn’t scrum. We conceded 2 tight-heads in this period and they broke our backs on their own scrums. Ironically the try was conceded after we managed to get out of our half and under pressure, Catrakilis sent what looked like a poor kick up field. You should never let a rugby ball bounce.

The lead up to Pat Lambie’s try was encouraging. An attack down the short side and a Reinach grubber re-gather, seemed sure to setup a try, with oodles of space to the right. Cynical play in this instance already stopped any chance we had so when Groom was yellowed for collapsing a driving maul that was sure to end in a try, I was surprised that the penalty try did not follow. Pat Lambie was the beneficiary of that decision as the next line out set-up some space out wide for Lambie to slip over for a well worked try, although, this one could also have been a penalty try and Scarra Ntubeni was lucky that his team wasn’t reduced to thirteen. A dangerous tackle on Lambie’s collar, completely ignored by the officials. Catrakilis got a chance to even up the scores with a penalty soon after.

Another good period of attacking play was started by Lambie when he slipped through a gap and set the Sharks up on attack inside the Stormers 22, the attack broke down, when Jaco Peyper called accidental offside on Marcell Coetzee and Frans Steyn – strictly according to the laws, a Stormers scrum was the right call. Unbelievably, the Sharks decided to put their legs into it and got a tight-head of their. Unfortunately another good attack broke down, when the ball was ripped from Kankowski’s hands. Strictly according to the book, play on, ripped, not a knock-on would have been the right call.

Catrakillis slotted another penalty just before the end of the half, giving the Stormers a 3 point lead going into the sheds, but at this point the Stormers started to look very dangerous on attack, especially Damian de Allande and Cheslin Kolbe were very difficult to contain.

The second half was scrappy. While the Stormers looked much more dangerous on attack and only a few desperate tackles saved us from conceding more than two penalties, there were far too many errors from both teams in this half to make it a classic. The Sharks were specifically good at spoiling good possession, but unfortunately that of their own, as much as that of their opposition. Careless passes and handling errors, the order of the day.

With less than 20 minutes to go, the Sharks were still hanging on, a Pat Lambie penalty keeping them within scoring distance, but the Stormers dominance and pressure were finally too much and a charged kick by Cobus Reinach – an unfortunate common practice in his game – ended in a penalty try after more poor decision making under pressure. All in all, a good summary of the match, as the pressure the Stormers put on us and the way the Sharks handled it, was ultimately what won and lost the match.

The Sharks coaches will have a lot to think about, a few things that need serious attention, however, I feel, there are still a few pleasantly surprising positives lurking, that should not be thrown away because of this bad performance. It would be difficult to keep faith in your plan under the circumstances, easy to revert back to the old way of thinking, but then the first 4 games would really have been a waste. I’m hoping for a better platform next week, but for our backs to continue looking for the gap and taking the opportunity when it seems to present itself.



73 Comments

  • Scrumhalf and prop, biggest issue we have. JPP showed no effort in the try they scored.

  • Comment 1, posted at 09.03.15 10:40:18 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • Post Mortem is a good description, cause we got killed. Technically, Performance, set-piece, individual effort – team effort – klapped on all fronts. Hopefully the kick in the fins we needed to play some rugby!

  • Comment 2, posted at 09.03.15 10:47:32 by Richard Reply

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  • Have to say I am confused with rulings on rips and knockons. However Kanko was way to upright running into something like four defenders. We showed some glimpses of good attacking (keeping the ball alive well, changing angle of attack, backline actually running the ball behind forwards, placing the ball well back at rucks), but reverted more and more to one up bashing as the game progressed.

    Second half we hardly saw any ball to attack with.

  • Comment 3, posted at 09.03.15 10:59:31 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • However after the scrums my biggest worry is our struggle to exit our 22 after kickoffs. We need to slow the game down in this area, get the players time to get into position. 9 needs to do less of the kicking from there and allow 10 and 15 to kick us out of trouble. Other teams know Reinach will take the exit kick, and all put pressure on him. That charge down was just waiting to happen all season.

  • Comment 4, posted at 09.03.15 11:04:24 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 1) : Absolutely agree even prop replacement solved nothing. Scrummie….eeeek I think Reinach wants to take some pills to blank out this game forever, while he’s at it he should take pills to make him forget the kicking game, he is no fourie du preez and sometimes I wish even fourie du preez would forget he is fourie du preez. I enjoy him (Reinach) much more when he is the dangerous runner and sniper than this awfull kick tactics. Distribution is the SH most important job, maybe he should give Pat a chance to get the ball and dictate somewhat? As for prop….any suggestions apart from bring Jannie back? What happens when he and beast get their bok-resting-time? What then?

  • Comment 5, posted at 09.03.15 11:05:48 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 5) : I would assume that we have Jannie and Beast for the next five games now?

  • Comment 6, posted at 09.03.15 11:06:53 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Well, like I said in the previous post, our scrums needs some work! We got killed on saturday. And yes, Reinach had an off game which does happen unfortunately. Our backline did look quite a bit more dangerous I must say, and that’s a big positive.

  • Comment 7, posted at 09.03.15 11:09:06 by PTAShark Reply
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  • It was concerning that we were generally out muscled. The Stormers were very good though. They are going to be tough to beat this year. Let’s give credit where credit is due.

  • Comment 8, posted at 09.03.15 11:14:40 by MikeSebMatt Reply

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  • @MikeSebMatt (Comment 8) : I think this coming weekends game against the Chiefs will really show where the Stormers are at.

  • Comment 9, posted at 09.03.15 11:18:59 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Standout players for me this week was definitely PSDT, Pat and SP. The others… stomach in, chest out boys! We can do this!

  • Comment 10, posted at 09.03.15 11:34:33 by Another Nick Reply

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  • In hindsight, Jannie was rested too soon, and Alberts should have come off the bench, Bothma deserves his 7 jumper. But even if lets say we had all playing who could possibly play – would the result have changed?

    Our set-piece is not functioning, and we are not dominating the breakdown area, we are not dominating the collision and we do not have cohesion on attack. The partnership of Frans Steyn, Pat Lambie and JPP deserves time to settle – its infuriating that the Japan league dictates when big money comes back. We need to find our rhythm and we need to be more consistent. That is stating the obvious, but it’s concerning that we do not see the continuity and aggression to which we are accustomed. Other than the Lions, we have not enjoyed any form of dominance over a period of time, it’s as if we hang on, and then slip. Some serious headaches and has nothing to with the names on the paper. It’s like Rob said, too many Chefs these past few seasons and too many recipes and dogma, but the same bunch of players. The team is rudderless sorry to say, and we need to fight for our survival.

  • Comment 11, posted at 09.03.15 11:42:04 by Richard Reply

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  • That’s basically how I saw it…first half we showed much that was good, second half the Stormers put us under tremendous continuous pressure and deserved the win…

  • Comment 12, posted at 09.03.15 11:43:21 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 1) : Tighthead is the main issue…to put it bluntly: how can we have such crap backup!?

  • Comment 13, posted at 09.03.15 11:45:08 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 1) : That JPP moment was the most infuriating in the game…for flips sake!!

  • Comment 14, posted at 09.03.15 11:46:01 by pastorshark Reply
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  • I think we should also not discount the impact of the rotation policy on the team, especially the tight five….this will surely also take time for the players to get used to.

  • Comment 15, posted at 09.03.15 11:47:52 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 5) : When Jannie gets his Bok resting time we get exactly what we got on Saturday. At this stage the only option is to do it against the weakest scrums in the competition…

  • Comment 16, posted at 09.03.15 11:50:52 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @MikeSebMatt (Comment 8) : Agreed…

  • Comment 17, posted at 09.03.15 11:51:47 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 9) : Also agreed…

  • Comment 18, posted at 09.03.15 11:52:12 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 13) : We don’t, Lourens is not bad at all. He just needs more game-time imo. But for some reason they keep selecting Stevens…?? Our scrums actually started to stabilise once Lourens came on.

  • Comment 19, posted at 09.03.15 11:57:16 by Another Nick Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 13) : My question is how did Stevens go from propping up the England scrum to a player that repeatedly got folded in half by the Ginger Ninja.

  • Comment 20, posted at 09.03.15 11:57:17 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 20) : I guess I can understand that they wanted to give Stevens a proper run, but my question is, if it is a clear as daylight a player is struggling like he did in the scrums.. why on earth wait 65mins to replace him??

  • Comment 21, posted at 09.03.15 12:02:03 by Another Nick Reply

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  • Just one comment after a very disappointing game on Sat, it seems their is an inverse relationship between the number of coaches you have and the number of games you win.

  • Comment 22, posted at 09.03.15 12:15:01 by stevovo Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 20) :
    I thought he was rather unlucky. He woudnt have played at tight head with Bismark alot and he had a new lock partner. The ref did not ref it very favourably either with lots of pushing before the ball.

  • Comment 23, posted at 09.03.15 12:56:03 by byron Reply

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  • Having a second look at the penalty try and I thought we were very unfortunate. That to me was the match turner. Ball dislodged by Burger (Knockon) and Reinach got back behind the ball before moving forward. Though we’d just got some momentum at that point.

    You can climb into Reinach for poor clearing etc but my question is where was the support at the kickoff.

  • Comment 24, posted at 09.03.15 13:00:57 by byron Reply

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  • I take no pleasure seeing the Sharks lose.

    But my oh my was it good to see Frans Steyn schooled in the midfield.
    What a seriously sh!t attitude he has.

  • Comment 25, posted at 09.03.15 13:04:12 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @byron (Comment 24) :

    That decisions was spot-on mate.

  • Comment 26, posted at 09.03.15 13:04:45 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @byron (Comment 24) : We need to slow play down when we have the ball in our own 22. Give the guys time to get into a supporting position. Get some forwards to drive up the ball to pull in defenders.

  • Comment 27, posted at 09.03.15 13:06:14 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 26) :
    I thought so too when I watched it on Saturday but geez dude its far more complicated a decision when you watch it slowed down. It looks pretty cut and dry but its not!

  • Comment 28, posted at 09.03.15 13:31:53 by byron Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 27) : Exactly what I thought … and where was the support for the catcher? Infront of him… Nobody made an effort

  • Comment 29, posted at 09.03.15 13:33:27 by byron Reply

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  • @Another Nick (Comment 21) : Matt looked better than Adriaanse on Saturday. I know Lourens needs game time and I rate him higher but the fact stands. Also why is Lourens being blackballed and not made the preferred Prop? He was good enough when we were bok-less and now Matt gets all the attention? I say 4 games is enough rotate make Adriaanse the starter. Agree fully that Botma deserves his nr 7 jersey maybe Alberts should have come off the bench for Kankowski? Also Giant Mtyanda seems to be an onvious choice instead of Marco and even Mo, his workrate is good to exceptional also he is younger and we SHOULD be working toward the future team. Thomas didn’t WOW me but I think he must stay on, I think he has greater potential than Chadwick. I keep saying this but why are we not grooming Chadwick for tighthead?

  • Comment 30, posted at 09.03.15 14:10:03 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @byron (Comment 29) : I have been saying for a while now. Sharks lack the killer instinct. The will to utterly demolish opponents. We seem to get shunted into everyone else’s preferred gameplan and not stamping our own authority and gameplan on the match. Then we panic and resort to some halfhearted neither here nor there gameplan where we cannot decide if we want to play a kicking or running game and end up failing at both. At least if we executed the kicking game properly Steyn and Lambie could have booted them into submission but there was NO clear direction. I will say it again. reinach must distribute, focus on being the scrumhalf he is best at being not some poor imitation of Fourie du Preez.

  • Comment 31, posted at 09.03.15 14:16:23 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @byron (Comment 28) :

    I dont see the confusion myself.

    Are you saying he didnt knock it on or are you saying it wasnt played after the knock?

  • Comment 32, posted at 09.03.15 14:40:05 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Well there were a couple of elements to the penalty try that were marginal …
    (1) Burgers hand dislodged the ball out of our wings hand and it went towards the out of goal line before coming off his legs and this the ref called “was knocked forward”. Neither ref or the linesman can see this the ball is obscured.
    (2) Where Ndegane ends up after the tackle and where the knock on occurs are two very different points. Reinachs feet are behind the point of the knockon before he moves forward to play the ball – Rule 11.2 – its open play – he’s onside
    (3) Lastly Reinach (and I know this one is reaching) but actions did not prevent a try – he dropped the ball and a stormers player knocked it on out of play. There’s doubt that a try would have been scored.

    I just thought that the ref was very quick to make a decision even though he could not see the ball at the time and what is the point of TV refs is on field referees don’t make use of them. I’m not saying the penalty try might not still have stood but geez when you actually stop the frame at the point of the knock-on and look where reinach played if from its not clear cut decision in any way. It was a massive moment in the match and I called it unfortunant not because the final decision was necessarily wrong but because of the manner in which the decision was made.

  • Comment 33, posted at 09.03.15 15:54:42 by byron Reply

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  • @byron (Comment 33) : one can look at it over and over, the ref called it that Odwa had knocked on, he did not as he was facing the dead ball line, the ball bounced in front of him and then bounced back infield, wrong call, not that it would have changed the result

  • Comment 34, posted at 09.03.15 16:01:24 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Richard (Comment 11) :

    Hi Rich, reason Jannie got arest was because of the birth of his 2nd child on the weekend. So not really by choice.

  • Comment 35, posted at 09.03.15 16:04:07 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @byron (Comment 33) : @sharks_lover (Comment 34) :

    Now that I think about it (although I don’t agree with this law), when a ball is dislodged out of a players hands by another player, the last action was not made by the player in possesion of the ball, but rather the player who dislodged it. Therefore, a Stormers player played the ball last, therefore Reinach was not offside, therefore no penalty try, or penalty. Actually, if they blew it like that, it should have been a 22 drop-out.

    Did they change the above law. I remember a try score by the Lions, when a player was tackled, very similar to how Odwa was. The ball was dislodged, forward over the line, but the try was given, because it was rule that the defender slapped it out of the ball carriers hands, therefore, ball backwards of defender hands.

    I never disputed that penalty try though, felt it was poor play by the Sharks and couldn’t even find it in myself to argue about the refs call.

    But now that you mention it. Maybe they should have had a longer look at it. It was a massive moment in the match and Peyper already ignore other instances in the match, against the Stormers, which could have also been penalty tries.

  • Comment 36, posted at 09.03.15 16:09:08 by Letgo Reply
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  • We were worse than the refs in this match. :???:

  • Comment 37, posted at 09.03.15 16:10:32 by Letgo Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 34) : My original comment was that it was unfortunate because we had just gained some momentum and points. I then said it was a much tighter decision than it initially looked But the actual point I was trying to make (or was hoping to make) is that Reinach has taken a lot of heat over the clearance/penalty try and if our forwards had just secured the kickoff we would have had a clear exit and a different game. Rabbit trailed a bit but hey its a forum

  • Comment 38, posted at 09.03.15 16:17:23 by byron Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 36) :

    Now that I think about it (although I don’t agree with this law), when a ball is dislodged out of a players hands by another player, the last action was not made by the player in possesion of the ball, but rather the player who dislodged it. Therefore, a Stormers player played the ball last, therefore Reinach was not offside, therefore no penalty try, or penalty. Actually, if they blew it like that, it should have been a 22 drop-out.

    Thats not strictly speaking true.

  • Comment 39, posted at 09.03.15 16:46:03 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @byron (Comment 38) :

    I dont blame Reinach actually. 99% of players wouldve picked up that ball if it was behind the tryline.

    I dont blame Odwa either. It was just really good work by the Stormers players.

  • Comment 40, posted at 09.03.15 16:47:48 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 40) : once that kick was charged down, the writing was on the wall. Can’t really blame either of the players for what they did, but don’t disagree with the penalty try decision one tiny bit.

  • Comment 41, posted at 09.03.15 17:44:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 41) :

    IT was just great pressure mate.

    I personally hate, hate, hate seeing my guys give away charge-downs.
    It can end up anywhere.

  • Comment 42, posted at 09.03.15 17:51:50 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 42) : yeah, agree with you. And I’m kind of glad it ended the way it did because SOMETHING has got to click in young Reinach’s mind at some point. He gets charged down way too often.

    And for fks sake, the week before he even scored one himself from exactly that mistake by his direct opposite.

  • Comment 43, posted at 09.03.15 18:35:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 43) :

    Its a shame because i quite like him.
    But then i do like my scrummies nuggety and tough.
    Perhaps he should spend a bit of time creating quicker, crisper execution, both with kicks and passes.

    Its the basis of scrumhalf play. Get that right and the rest is icing. Especially when you have decent backs.

  • Comment 44, posted at 09.03.15 18:45:46 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 44) : I would like him too if he was playing against my team. I would absolutely adore him. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 45, posted at 09.03.15 18:58:02 by Ben Reply
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  • Reinach needs a rude awakening. He needs to be rested/dropped.

  • Comment 46, posted at 09.03.15 18:59:20 by Ben Reply
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  • Hoffman should get a chance. Imagine what a wake-up call it would be to Reinach if Hoffman had a blinder.

  • Comment 47, posted at 09.03.15 19:01:25 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 45) :

    Kaksnaaks.

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  • @Ben (Comment 47) :

    How much are we missing Kokott right about now…

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 49) : Right now I’d even go as far as to say McLeod…

  • Comment 50, posted at 09.03.15 19:32:50 by Ben Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 49) : Why don’t we see you around more often Vinnie? Only come to boast? ;)

  • Comment 51, posted at 09.03.15 19:33:21 by Ben Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 49) : don’t go there. Do you really want to hurt me?

  • Comment 52, posted at 09.03.15 19:35:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 52) :
    Boy George, is that you?

  • Comment 53, posted at 09.03.15 19:47:43 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 52) :

    Lol. Sorry mate. Now, about Brad…

  • Comment 54, posted at 09.03.15 20:20:55 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 50) :

    Lol.

    @Ben (Comment 51) :

    If only. I find if i spend too much time on this forum I fear my role of the Dark Knight would be brought into question.

  • Comment 55, posted at 09.03.15 20:23:32 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 53) :

    Had never thought of that resemblance before today…

    I’d always referenced James Dalton…

  • Comment 56, posted at 09.03.15 20:25:10 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 46) : I thought he was much better for the first 25 minutes or so. Then he slowly regressed into his old habits.

  • Comment 57, posted at 10.03.15 08:26:01 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 57) : He always does that though. Like a box of smarties.

  • Comment 58, posted at 10.03.15 08:54:35 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 58) : Like the proverbial box of chocolates – as Forest’s momma used to say

  • Comment 59, posted at 10.03.15 09:05:50 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 58) : In extreme pressure situations a scrum half’s natural instinct takes over and the best scrum halves operate on automatic pilot
    Reinarch tends to stop and think and by that time he is in deep shite and he panic kicks.
    A scrum halve’s prime role is to provide reliability under pressure to the team.
    Reinarch should be playing sevens,he would probably be one of the best sevens players the game.

  • Comment 60, posted at 10.03.15 09:11:30 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 60) : Like Hougaard, Reinach does not seem to be a natural scrumhalf. He actually has the speed and boot for a wing, but not really the size.

  • Comment 61, posted at 10.03.15 09:16:09 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 60) : In those situations, he should just concentrate on providing his 10 with good clean ball, and let him make the decisions. Be more of a Gregan and less of a FdP.

  • Comment 62, posted at 10.03.15 09:18:11 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 61) : The Bulls seem to have accepted this but our brains trust haven’t.

  • Comment 63, posted at 10.03.15 09:19:14 by The hound Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 61) : Completely agree.

  • Comment 64, posted at 10.03.15 09:24:52 by Ben Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 62) : I still think he is very talented and if he lived in Australasia he could have been a Matt Gitaeu or a Christian Cullen,but Heinekke Meyer’s obsession with size,has forced him into a position he is not suited to.
    I listened to Mallett trying to make a case for turning Kolbe into a scrum half on the weekend.

  • Comment 65, posted at 10.03.15 09:27:09 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 65) : I can’t see how Heyneke forced Reinach into playing scrumhalf. Hasn’t he always been playing scrumhalf?

  • Comment 66, posted at 10.03.15 09:32:20 by Ben Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 65) : As for turning Kolbe into a scrumhalf – Absurd.

  • Comment 67, posted at 10.03.15 09:33:15 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 66) : Reinarch was a wing at school,like his father.
    If you have followed Meyer’s selection policy he has made it very clear that guys like de Jong ,Applon,etc. were far too small to make it into the Bok setup.Everyone knows he has an infatuation with size,do the math.

  • Comment 68, posted at 10.03.15 09:38:59 by The hound Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 67) : @Ben (Comment 67) : I agree but he was deadly serious, even read out an endoresement from Divan Serfontein

  • Comment 69, posted at 10.03.15 09:40:39 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 68) : I’m very well aware of Heyneke’s idiotic theory that ‘big enough is good enough’, I just don’t think that is what forced Reinach to play scrumhalf.

  • Comment 70, posted at 10.03.15 10:06:42 by Ben Reply
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  • I sometimes think SA was done a disservice by Joost.
    He was probably responsible for this scrumhalf obsession whereby they think theyre the playmaker, not the flyhalf.

  • Comment 71, posted at 10.03.15 11:34:05 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 71) : THIS! AMEN! THIS!

  • Comment 72, posted at 10.03.15 11:42:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 71) : Vinnie is on a roll. :cool:

  • Comment 73, posted at 10.03.15 14:08:24 by Ben Reply
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