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What they had to say: Sharks vs Chiefs, Round 6


Written by Stephen Smith (StevieS)

Posted in :In the news, Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 23 Mar 2015 at 09:48
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Hi Sharks fans. What a strange start to a game and what an incredible result from the 13 players we had on the field. In other news, Liam Messam will also appear before a SANZAR judiciary panel for foul play, so it seems the drama is not yet over. I’m sure Rob will go into a fuller analysis of the game for us, so let’s get to what the press had to say.

South Africa:

“A 13-man Sharks team registered a gutsy 12-11 victory over the Chiefs in an ill-tempered Super Rugby clash that featured three sendings-off on Saturday night.” – news24.com

“A 13-man Cell C Sharks team weathered a late onslaught from the 14-man Chiefs to score an important 12-11 win in a Vodacom Super Rugby game that won’t be remembered for the quality of rugby produced but rather for the bizarreness of a first half that featured no less than three red cards being dished out for foul play offences.

If ever there was a game where a match report could feature the words “and there was also some rugby” this one was it… After that it was 14 against 13, but even before the red cards the game had been a poor one, with players knocking on balls and both teams, but particularly the Chiefs, being uncharacteristically loose and poor in holding onto the ball and protecting their possession. The play frequently swung this way and that as teams took turns to lose possession and the other team ran it back at them.” – supersport.com

“The Sharks did just enough to secure a 12-11 victory over the Chiefs at Kings Park in a match marred by poor discipline.

Sharks hooker and skipper Bismarck du Plessis and centre Frans Steyn and Chiefs hooker Hikawera Elliot were red-carded by Australian referee Angus Gardner within 28 minutes of the kick-off in Durban.

And several other players were lucky to escape at least a yellow card with Chiefs replacement back Tom Marshall not punished for striking scrumhalf Cobus Reinach in the back with his knee.” – rugby365.com

“It was a night of disgrace and delight for the Sharks as they edged the Chiefs 12-11 in an ugly representation of southern hemisphere rugby, writes MARK KEOHANE.

The Sharks won a match they simply had to in order to sustain an interest in the South African conference and push for the play-offs.

How they won is not for celebration. That they won is what needs to be celebrated.” – sarugbymag.co.za

New Zealand:

“8 Sharks (last week 8)

What they lacked in discipline they made up for in ticker en route to a remarkable victory over the Chiefs with just 13 men. Hopefully this gets them going, though will need to find a little more attacking fluency to really turn the corner.” – stuff.co.nz

“When red cards outnumber tries scored in a Super Rugby contest, you know something bizarre is happening.

That was the case as the 13-man Sharks defeated the 14-man Chiefs 12-11 in Durban on Sunday morning.

In truly bizarre scenes, three players were sent off in a 12-minute first half period as both sides lost discipline and horrid weather began to roll into Kings Park Stadium.” – stuff.co.nz

“If the Chiefs wish to break the unfortunate pattern they are following, the next fortnight presents an ideal opportunity.

Yesterday’s unseemly defeat to the Sharks saw history repeat for the Chiefs, with the ugly outing arriving a week after an impressive victory over the Stormers.

And it was exactly the same before the side headed for South Africa – the good will generated out of the crushing of the Crusaders was immediately lost with a wasteful effort against the Highlanders.” – nzherald.co.nz

“Home first five-eighths, and captain for much of the match, Patrick Lambie landed four penalty goals for his side while Chiefs first five-eighths Aaron Cruden missed two chances to goal in the final quarter, one from a penalty and one from a dropped goal attempt.

It was a gutsy effort from the home team who played 53 minutes with 13 men in a game that was marred by three red cards.” – superrugby.co.nz

“In a bizarre game with three red cards the Sharks just held on to beat the Chiefs 12-11 at Growthpoint Kings Park in Durban this morning.

The game was messy from the get go with the wet conditions hindering both teams’ efforts in points.” – tvnz.co.nz

Australia:

“Three players were sent off during the first half as the Sharks edged the Chiefs 12-11 in a bruising Super Rugby clash in Durban.

It was a huge win for the Sharks who were a man down for most of the match due to the red-card frenzy.” – smh.com.au

“The Chiefs were well below par and struggled for any cohesion with a number of regulars out and poor decision making. Their usual handling skills deserted them and they probably asked too much of themselves in the conditions.

Of more concern was their inability to utilise their one-man advantage, and while the conditions explain some of that, the Chiefs’ brain trust won’t be overly happy. They return home this week and while they are still in a good position they will not want to drop any further behind the Hurricanes in the New Zealand conference.

The Sharks kept their season alive with a tough one-point win over the Chiefs in Durban. An ill-tempered affair played in terrible conditions, the Sharks lost two of their more experienced players in the first half to red cards, both players who should know better, and had to see out the majority of the match with 13 men.

The Chiefs also lost a man to a red card early in the match for a 14 on 13 man affair. It seems the secret to the Sharks’ success is to play out matches with a man down (if you can recall the 14-man effort against the Crusaders last year) as this seemed to galvanise the team.

A previously porous defence was shored up as they restricted the Chiefs to a sole try and took all of their opportunities off the boot of Pat Lambie to secure a much needed win. Sure, the conditions were a great leveller, but it was still a much needed win and keeps the Sharks alive in South Africa.” – theroar.com.au

International:

“The Sharks denied the Chiefs back-to-back wins in South Africa on Saturday as they held on to win 12-11 at a very wet Growthpoint KINGS PARK.

The result also means the Sharks end a five-game losing streak against the Chiefs, but they had to do it the hard way, having played with man down for over 50 minutes.” – sanzarrugby.com

“After a chaotic night in Durban, four players have been cited for foul play during the Sharks one-point win over the Chiefs. Sharks captain Bismarck du Plessis and centre Francois Steyn and Chiefs hooker Hikawera Elliot were all red carded within the opening 30-minutes of the match, while Chiefs flanker Liam Messam was lucky to escape a yellow card but was later cited following the match.” –espnscrum.com

“The game was turned on it’s head on the 15-minute mark when referee Angus Gardner sent Elliot off. With the Sharks camped on the Chiefs’ line, the visiting hooker shoulder charged into Tendai Mtawarira, who was lying on the side of a ruck. The officials deemed the impact on the Sharks prop’s head to be worth a red card.

That should have been the end of the contest but, just two minutes later, Sharks captain Bismarck du Plessis stupidly kicked out at the head of Chiefs number eight Michael Leitch when held on the floor. A red card was obvious, meaning parity was restored. “ – planetrugby.com

“Chiefs flanker Sam Cane scored the only try at Kings Park stadium and Cruden slotted two penalties while missing two other shots at goal.

Victory lifted Sharks three places to fifth on the southern hemisphere inter-provincial championship table while two-time champions the Chiefs remained fourth.” – superxv.com

Twitter:

“Pat Lambie for captain!! Well done to the 13 men! #SSRugby #sharksrugby”

“@FionaMcDonaldSA @Timatkin #sharksvchiefs has turned into a 7s game!”

“Gees this rugby match is resembling the after math of WWE Wrestling #sharksvchiefs”

“An ugly game of #SuperRugby. Would need to look at Messam arms around throat of Bothma. #SSRugby #SharksvChiefs”

Until next week Sharks fans.



53 Comments

  • Definitely not the best game by both teams but we will take that win for sure ;-)

  • Comment 1, posted at 23.03.15 10:36:33 by RedSharkUtd82 Reply
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  • @RedSharkUtd82 (Comment 1) : Agreed, a win is a win. I thought Lambie was superb. Well spoken and humble when interviewed.

  • Comment 2, posted at 23.03.15 10:50:12 by StevieS Reply
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  • So the international press pick up that the Sharks played with real ticker to win the game and we, as Sharks supporters can only crap, whinge and moan at the team for not scoring a bonus point victory. Go figure.

  • Comment 3, posted at 23.03.15 10:52:04 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 2) : True Lambie was immense for us. Yeah the interview just showed what maturity he has as a player and captain.

  • Comment 4, posted at 23.03.15 10:54:48 by RedSharkUtd82 Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 3) : The international press don’t expect any better from the Sharks.

  • Comment 5, posted at 23.03.15 10:58:36 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 3) : The international Press probably spent their time watching the 6 nations, and they never even saw this game. ;-)

  • Comment 6, posted at 23.03.15 11:03:27 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 6) : Sounds like that is what Mallet and co in the studio were also doing.

  • Comment 7, posted at 23.03.15 11:09:07 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 7) : Only time Mallet actually watches the game before giving his over-inflated opinion, is when the streamers are playing :roll:

  • Comment 8, posted at 23.03.15 11:20:07 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 3) : Ag no man…read the first comments after the game again! Everyone was super chuffed and highly praised the 13. The criticism of those carded – sometimes expressed in words I would not use – then followed and was (for the most part justified!)…

  • Comment 9, posted at 23.03.15 11:22:19 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Hi StevieS…thanks again. I look forward to this post every week…

  • Comment 10, posted at 23.03.15 11:24:06 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 9) : I bet you had to hold yourself in for those words not to have escaped your mouth on Saturday. :grin:

  • Comment 11, posted at 23.03.15 11:28:20 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 9) : Clearly the good stuff was lost in all the negativity, the reams and reams of negativity.

  • Comment 12, posted at 23.03.15 11:30:42 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 11) : I was vloeking about Bismarck the moment I read on live updates what had happened. But to say that Sharks supporters only crap, whinge and moan is just not accurate…there was much praise for the remainder who pulled this through!!

  • Comment 13, posted at 23.03.15 11:48:20 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 12) : Well, the negative will always be around – on here and in life – and it’s never a good idea to lose sight of the positive completely in the midst of it. I know that sounds a bit like a sermon, but it is not less true because of it. It is also not an excuse for inaccurate statements… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 14, posted at 23.03.15 11:53:47 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 14) : I went back and read that thread, only mildly euphoric, nothing like the Crusaders game last year though but still most giving credit to the players for gutsing it out, so sorry for the inaccurate statement to all you that were offended.

  • Comment 15, posted at 23.03.15 12:08:26 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 15) : No problem :lol: …and I wasn’t offended :mrgreen: …just making a point…
    I reckon it wasn’t as euphoric because of the nature of the two games and the circumstances. We beat the Crusaders in a “normal” game of rugby 14 against 15. Saturday the rugby was dour due to the conditions…and the conditions certainly help us to grind out the win. Still I for one, and plenty of my mates, were ecstatic that we managed to pull it off!!

  • Comment 16, posted at 23.03.15 12:53:24 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Thanks Stevie!

  • Comment 17, posted at 23.03.15 12:58:01 by vanmartin Reply
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  • It was truely a great win, I will now concentrate on celebrating that aspect of this game.

  • Comment 18, posted at 23.03.15 12:59:46 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 3) : @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 18) : Hear! Hear!

  • Comment 19, posted at 23.03.15 13:48:36 by Another Nick Reply

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  • Can anyone please post a screenshot of how Beast & Renaldo looked side by side, it looked liked they had a fight :mrgreen:

  • Comment 20, posted at 23.03.15 14:34:44 by Johnnydp Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 3) : Agreed :grin:

  • Comment 21, posted at 23.03.15 15:27:13 by markm Reply

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  • I believe that it is evident that the psychological / mental / emotional / leadership aspects of the game are becoming more prevalent in determining the outcome of the game- in this department NZ r winning the race. If a team is able to ‘get under the skin’ of a hot tempered player, they will use those tactics to force cards. In SA we need to start choosing match day teams with BMT, temperament and mental acumen in mind.

  • Comment 22, posted at 23.03.15 15:30:32 by Julesgr8ter Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 14) : Exactly. As much as we have the inalienable right to comment with passion, let us get our ducks in a row first.As I said in another thread, love the passion of SW. :lol:

  • Comment 23, posted at 23.03.15 15:31:37 by markm Reply

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  • And in other news.. FS found not not guilty and his red card removed.

  • Comment 24, posted at 23.03.15 15:35:33 by Another Nick Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 10) : My pleasure boet. Glad you appreciate it.

  • Comment 25, posted at 23.03.15 15:36:21 by StevieS Reply
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  • Steyn has been cleared & red card rescinded. http://www.sarugbymag.co.za/blog/details/steyn-off-the-hook1

  • Comment 26, posted at 23.03.15 15:36:37 by markm Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 17) : My pleasure Van :lol:

    @Another Nick (Comment 24) : Great news about Frans. I was hoping common sense would prevail.

  • Comment 27, posted at 23.03.15 15:38:35 by StevieS Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 27) : Me too! I’m just kind of annoyed that after numerous replays AND a suggestion from Marius to rather make it a yellow, the ref STILL decided to go for red!! :evil:

  • Comment 28, posted at 23.03.15 15:40:38 by Another Nick Reply

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  • @markm (Comment 26) : Hi Mark, hope you are well boet? about time a fair decision was made,

  • Comment 29, posted at 23.03.15 15:44:06 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • They went as far as expunging the red card. shows you people are to quick to judge……

  • Comment 30, posted at 23.03.15 15:45:06 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Another Nick (Comment 28) : Same as the only 1 week ban for the Chiefs hooker, it was far more dangerous than the Bismark kick, I spoke to a bloke who specialises in back and spine injuries this morning and he was shocked that the player only got 1 week as the area where he connected Beast is a very dangerous one.

  • Comment 31, posted at 23.03.15 15:47:29 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 31) : Exactly! Also, the knee into Reinach’s back?? Nothing, not a word. Only a penalty and nothing more. Even though the ref could see the player is in a great amount of pain caused by the reckless knee-dive.

  • Comment 32, posted at 23.03.15 15:55:04 by Another Nick Reply

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  • Botha’s eye is left unexplained. I saw he and Bismarck having a quiet conversation on the bench after Botha had been replaced and there appeared to be some conciliatory words to Bismarck from Botha.
    My take is that the Chiefs did not come to Kings Park for a game of rugby, they came for a fight. I think they lost both.

  • Comment 33, posted at 23.03.15 16:07:08 by charlieharvey Reply

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  • @charlieharvey (Comment 33) : Well I would hate to be the guys fist that connected with the Beast, I’m pretty sure he has more pain now :mrgreen:

  • Comment 34, posted at 23.03.15 16:12:39 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • So with Fransie cleared i guess that means he will play flyhalf on Saturday against the Force.

    So much for Gary Gold’s rotation policy.

    I was really hoping to get a look at Zeilinga at 10.

  • Comment 35, posted at 23.03.15 16:19:52 by jonnow Reply

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  • Please no Steyn at 10.Zeilinga is our man.Frans can captain.

  • Comment 36, posted at 23.03.15 16:28:22 by tigershark Reply

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  • @tigershark (Comment 36) : After the way Fred played on the weekend he has to start at 10.

    @Another Nick (Comment 28) : I was also annoyed, but have to admit I can see how they gave the red, what with the way Cruden landed. I would have gone for a yellow personally, but the ref was on the spot.

  • Comment 37, posted at 23.03.15 16:40:20 by StevieS Reply
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  • Good read again, thanks Stevie.

  • Comment 38, posted at 23.03.15 17:14:43 by Ben Reply
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  • @jonnow (Comment 35) : I really don’t think it would be wise of Gold to break up the centre pairing now, Frans and JP needs to play more at 12 and 13 together to start gelling. Would be seriously unwise to break them up now.

  • Comment 39, posted at 24.03.15 07:00:31 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 38) : Thanks Ben. I’m glad you guys are enjoying it. Makes it worth the effort.

    @KingRiaan (Comment 39) : I’m still not convinced about JPP at 13. I’d like to see S’Bura back there and JP on the wing.

  • Comment 40, posted at 24.03.15 07:42:12 by StevieS Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 40) : I think most of us would prefer that, but seeing as it looks that Frans and JPP is Gold’s prefered centre pairing, it just makes sense to give them as many games together as possible.

  • Comment 41, posted at 24.03.15 07:52:01 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 41) : Ok, I agree then. We need them to gel 100%.

  • Comment 42, posted at 24.03.15 08:14:29 by StevieS Reply
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  • @Another Nick (Comment 32) : There was a word about the Reinach incident: Marshall was given a warning for his conduct and issued with an off-field yellow…

  • Comment 43, posted at 25.03.15 07:25:04 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @jonnow (Comment 35) : I am really hoping that Fred will play at flyhalf, but if he doesn’t that will not say anything against the rotation policy – there will still be rotation as Pat will rest and one of Esterhuizen or Williams will get a game. It just means Fred won’t be the one rotated in…

  • Comment 44, posted at 25.03.15 07:27:43 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 37) : The TMO was as on the spot as the ref…both based their decisions on the video footage. I can understand how the ref went red…but in the end the advice of the TMO was vindicated. Now I want to see consistency for the rest of the season though, with all tip tackles where a player lands on neck or head leading to a red card!

  • Comment 45, posted at 25.03.15 07:31:14 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 45) : I’d like to see the same consistency, but will we? I mean Bakkies got a 4 week ban back in the day for clearing out Gio Aplon with no arms in a ruck, Hika Elliot did the same, or worse, as he hit Beast in the head, yet he only gets 1 week?

    I know previous disciplinary record comes into it, but really, dirty play is dirty play.

  • Comment 46, posted at 25.03.15 09:30:37 by StevieS Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 46) : LMAO,Hell man do you really think Bakkies against Gio,is the same as Reed agains the Beast,you need to get out more.

  • Comment 47, posted at 25.03.15 09:57:36 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 47) : Yes, because that’s exactly the point I was trying to make :roll:

    I’d say you need to read more carefully and thoroughly. And who is Reed?

  • Comment 48, posted at 25.03.15 11:36:58 by StevieS Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 48) : That one does show my age,Hika Reed was the original Hika the hooker,played at the same time as Fitzpatrick,and I am certain this one moulds himself on the original.
    Really chap still think Bakes on Gio is about as unfair contest as you can get,Beast on the other hand can look after himself.

  • Comment 49, posted at 25.03.15 11:43:40 by The hound Reply
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  • Which was worse, Bismarks boot work or Hika’s clearing attempt?

  • Comment 50, posted at 25.03.15 11:46:40 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 49) : I know sizewise there’s more scope for damage to Aplon, but the point is that the action is inexcusable.

    Nobody would want done to them what Hika did to Beast.

  • Comment 51, posted at 25.03.15 11:47:59 by StevieS Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 51) : Must say the Beast incident happened right in front of where I sit.At the time I never noticed how bad it was as it happened away from the immediate play.I just remember Beast getting seriously pissed off which is unusual for him,he hardly ever moans or retaliates.

  • Comment 52, posted at 25.03.15 13:07:30 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 52) : Lol I think it would take a lot to upset Beast, so it must have been serious.

  • Comment 53, posted at 25.03.15 14:50:56 by StevieS Reply
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