Letgo

Moving on and looking ahead


Written by Maria Delport (Letgo)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 24 Mar 2015 at 07:09
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I think we are all in agreement.

Bismarck du Plessis’ actions on the field deserved punishment. However, it is time to move on and look at the rest of the team.

Talking about the rest of the team. Didn’t they do us proud. Again, under the greatest adversity, when your captain has shamed you and another senior player has been sent off and left the team outnumbered. You could be expected to hang your heads and take the inevitable defeat, but not these guys. As always, when the chips are down, the Sharks are at their best. I have to say, I was immensely proud of the boys. Now it is time to build on a fighting performance like that, something the Sharks usually don’t do. It is time for these boys to step up and play at that same level, when their numbers are up. Anything less than a win against the Force will not be good enough and will negate all the hard work done against the Chiefs.

Kyle Cooper did immensely well when he was forced onto the field unexpectedly. For a man that hardly gets 5 minutes each week, he got stuck right in and looked like he belonged and it is about time the coaches take notice and give him opportunities instead of using him only as a stopgap. Ryan Kankowski was another player who really stood up and played as a leader against the Chiefs. He is already a senior player and a leader in the squad and I believe he will do a fine job as captain. Pat Lambie stepped up as a captain and though it must feel like his inclusion for the next game is imperative, he must be rested, along with Marcell Coetzee and Cobus Reinach. If you do not rest them now fatigue will come in and play a role later on, maybe even an irreversible role. There are enough quality players in our squad to do the job against the Force.

The tougher replacements are the ones that are technically not forced on the Sharks, but rather requested. Replacing Lambie at this time seems like an impossible request, but for the players own sake, I feel management need to take responsibility and give him the week off, if not now, when? There is never going to be a good time.

Fred Zeilinga and Stefan Ungerer had a good run in the Vodacom Cup in the Super Rugby curtain raiser on Saturday and although their opposition didn’t bring much to the contest, the way both players came out and performed should be enough for the Sharks coaching team to trust these players to take over the mantle for one week. Of course there is also Conrad Hoffman who has been doing bench duty, but I am a strong believer in playing halfbacks in combination wherever possible. I would have the more experienced pair of Hoffman and Lionel Cronje on the bench. These two looked really good as a combination during Currie Cup 2014.

The toughest replacement could well be Marcell Coetzee. Not only do the Sharks not have a proper like for like replacement for Marcell in the squad, but no less than three of their top loose forwards are still on the injury list as well as the recent injury of Pieter-Steph du Toit who has been seen as a hybrid lock/loose forward in the past. Both Willem Alberts and Jean Deysel still have a couple of weeks left in their recovery and news has been scarce on Mtembu’s injury. Ettienne Oosthuizen, injured in pre-season, did have a run with the Sharks XV and could be an option in the back row. While Daniel du Preez has also been given a taste of Super Rugby in the last few weeks. Khaya Majola is the only one of these men that is actually an openside flank, but the Sharks might just opt to go without a fetching option if they do decide to rest Coetzee. Another outside option for the position, could be Johan Meyer, who had an exceptionally good game for the Sharks XV on Saturday.

Although the Force are not been the pushovers they have been in the past and in fact, could count themselves unlucky not to have walked away with more than a bonus point against the Bulls, one feels this will be the best opportunity for the Sharks to rest a few players. They should see this as a chance to test a few players at this level and give them a run in case they are needed again in the future. In fact though with all the changes it might not even be considered, a player like Jaco van Tonder is also long overdue a run, with the inconsistent performances of SP Marais continuing at fullback.



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  • And I just can’t believe it is raining in Auckland. This has shifted the balance of this game completely back in die favor of NZ. South Africa will have to fight to pull this one out of the bag now.

    AB and Faf had them staring down the barrel of the gun, now …

    Can’t believe it.

  • Comment 1, posted at 24.03.15 07:28:52 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 1) : The weather Gods really hate the Proteas!

  • Comment 2, posted at 24.03.15 07:31:47 by Ben Reply
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  • I absolutely agree Letgo. It’s so easy for us to look at the negative and slam a couple of players that let us down. But the fact STILL remains that we beat a very good, on-form Chiefs side, with 13 men on the field in atrocious conditions. Those men fought like warriors can came away victorious. I think Marco Wentzel also deserves special mention.. he was colossal and stepped up greatly when the chips were down.
    I for one am extremely proud of our performance, and like you said, would love to see more of the same.

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  • @Letgo (Comment 1) : SA cricket and rain – never a great combo

  • Comment 4, posted at 24.03.15 07:43:08 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Although from what I read if SA could not continue, the target would have been 264 from 38 overs for NZ.

  • Comment 5, posted at 24.03.15 07:45:09 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Great article Letgo.

    I’m looking forward to seeing a lot of changes to our team for this weekend.

  • Comment 6, posted at 24.03.15 07:52:36 by StevieS Reply
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  • Miller is smashing NZ.

  • Comment 7, posted at 24.03.15 07:58:45 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • NZ needs 298 from 43 overs

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 8) : Thanks for the updates. Please keep them coming.

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  • Miller smashed 49 of 18 balls. Not often that you see AB reduced to a spectator.

  • Comment 10, posted at 24.03.15 08:19:35 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Not a good start.

  • Comment 11, posted at 24.03.15 08:30:39 by Ben Reply
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  • Our bowling not of to a great start – 18 after 1.2 overs

  • Comment 12, posted at 24.03.15 08:31:15 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • The decision to bring Philander back in for Abbott looks to be backfiring on us.

  • Comment 13, posted at 24.03.15 08:32:38 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 32/0 after 3 overs

  • Comment 14, posted at 24.03.15 08:39:34 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 13) : :roll:

  • Comment 15, posted at 24.03.15 08:40:05 by Ben Reply
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  • We need to get McCullum out now!

  • Comment 16, posted at 24.03.15 08:42:05 by Ben Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 14) : Not good :shock:

  • Comment 17, posted at 24.03.15 08:43:45 by StevieS Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 16) : It is the McCullum show. Guptil still only has 2

  • Comment 18, posted at 24.03.15 08:44:25 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • If they don’t get some wickets soon, it is game over.

  • Comment 19, posted at 24.03.15 08:45:11 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • NZ going at a run rate of 13

  • Comment 20, posted at 24.03.15 08:47:48 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Piss poor bowling!

  • Comment 21, posted at 24.03.15 08:50:07 by Ben Reply
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  • Steyn just went for 25 in one over.

  • Comment 22, posted at 24.03.15 08:51:00 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 71/0 after 6 overs

  • Comment 23, posted at 24.03.15 08:55:37 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • McCullum out!

  • Comment 24, posted at 24.03.15 08:58:09 by Ben Reply
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  • McCullum out. Thank goodness

  • Comment 25, posted at 24.03.15 08:59:10 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 72/1 after 7 overs. Run rate down to 10.28 :roll:

  • Comment 26, posted at 24.03.15 09:01:41 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Morkel strikes again. Williamson gone.

  • Comment 27, posted at 24.03.15 09:08:55 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 81/2 after 9. Run rate down to 9

  • Comment 28, posted at 24.03.15 09:11:04 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 104/2 after 12.

  • Comment 29, posted at 24.03.15 09:22:47 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 112/2 after 14. Run rate down to 8.

    We need a wicket soon.

  • Comment 30, posted at 24.03.15 09:33:34 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Vern is also settling in now.

  • Comment 31, posted at 24.03.15 09:34:45 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 116/2 after 16

  • Comment 32, posted at 24.03.15 09:39:52 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Guptill run out. 128/3

  • Comment 33, posted at 24.03.15 09:45:32 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Just keep them wickets coming boys.

  • Comment 34, posted at 24.03.15 09:46:31 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 133/3 after 18

  • Comment 35, posted at 24.03.15 09:49:11 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 35) : Thanks for tjhe updates. Keep them coming. We can do this! #Proteafire #randomotherhashtagcomments

  • Comment 36, posted at 24.03.15 09:54:28 by StevieS Reply
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  • 143/3 after 20. This is incredibly tight.

  • Comment 37, posted at 24.03.15 09:57:56 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Another wicket by Duminy. 149/4

  • Comment 38, posted at 24.03.15 10:05:21 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Taylor gone.

  • Comment 39, posted at 24.03.15 10:05:48 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 151/4 after 22. NZ needs 147 runs from 21 overs.

  • Comment 40, posted at 24.03.15 10:08:51 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • I am super nervous.

    Would love another hat-trick!

  • Comment 41, posted at 24.03.15 10:09:31 by Letgo Reply
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  • 165/4 after 24. We need another wicket soon.

  • Comment 42, posted at 24.03.15 10:16:52 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 174/4 after 26.

  • Comment 43, posted at 24.03.15 10:24:24 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 183/4 after 28

  • Comment 44, posted at 24.03.15 10:34:11 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 196/4 (29.1)

  • Comment 45, posted at 24.03.15 10:40:08 by Letgo Reply
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  • The writing is on the wall. :roll:

  • Comment 46, posted at 24.03.15 10:40:24 by Ben Reply
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  • We need a couple of wickets. Quick!

  • Comment 47, posted at 24.03.15 10:40:38 by Letgo Reply
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  • 199/4 after 30. Much better over from Steyn

  • Comment 48, posted at 24.03.15 10:43:34 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • AB is going to bowl

  • Comment 49, posted at 24.03.15 10:44:29 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • AB stuffs up a run out

  • Comment 50, posted at 24.03.15 10:51:15 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Pressure starting to get too much for SA?

  • Comment 51, posted at 24.03.15 10:53:27 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 208/4 after 32

  • Comment 52, posted at 24.03.15 10:54:10 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • NZ needs 85 from 60 now

  • Comment 53, posted at 24.03.15 10:58:38 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Actually 84 from 60 for a tie – which means NZ goes thru

  • Comment 54, posted at 24.03.15 10:59:40 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • We need a wicket urgently. AB is going to kick himself after the game.

  • Comment 55, posted at 24.03.15 11:06:41 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 66 of 48 balls needed

  • Comment 56, posted at 24.03.15 11:11:03 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • AB and poor bowling costs us the world cup, and of course dropping Abbott, and poor fielding.

  • Comment 57, posted at 24.03.15 11:12:34 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Oh and the damn rain

  • Comment 58, posted at 24.03.15 11:13:37 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Only a miracle will help us now.

  • Comment 59, posted at 24.03.15 11:16:31 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 243/4 at the end of the power play.

  • Comment 60, posted at 24.03.15 11:16:57 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Fat lady warming here voice now.

  • Comment 61, posted at 24.03.15 11:17:36 by Ben Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 57) : How did AB cost us the world cup? :roll:

  • Comment 62, posted at 24.03.15 11:20:25 by Ben Reply
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  • 46 of 36 balls needed.

  • Comment 63, posted at 24.03.15 11:21:09 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 62) : He fluffed a straight forward runout standing next to the stumps. Elliott was 4 meters out, and AB fumbled the ball and then fell over.

  • Comment 64, posted at 24.03.15 11:23:34 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 64) : AB wasn’t the only one at fault there. The throw wasn’t good enough.

  • Comment 65, posted at 24.03.15 11:25:19 by Ben Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 64) : Wouldn’t call it straight forward. Maybe straight forward for someone like AB but certainly not straight forward.

  • Comment 66, posted at 24.03.15 11:26:42 by Ben Reply
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  • Anderson gone. We have some hope.

  • Comment 67, posted at 24.03.15 11:27:33 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 45 of 30 balls

  • Comment 68, posted at 24.03.15 11:28:09 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • What was that all about? Checking if the ball hit the wire of the camera?

  • Comment 69, posted at 24.03.15 11:28:24 by Ben Reply
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  • Excellent over by Morkel. Now we need the same from Tahir and Steyn.

  • Comment 70, posted at 24.03.15 11:29:09 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 69) : Would have been a dead ball if it did – no wicket.

  • Comment 71, posted at 24.03.15 11:29:57 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • AB taking another over.

  • Comment 72, posted at 24.03.15 11:30:40 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 71) : That would have sucked big time!

  • Comment 73, posted at 24.03.15 11:31:04 by Ben Reply
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  • The man has some serious balls.

  • Comment 74, posted at 24.03.15 11:31:29 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Ben, the target is easy for them now and still 5 wickets in hand, simple task

  • Comment 75, posted at 24.03.15 11:32:07 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • 35 of 24 balls needed for a tie

  • Comment 76, posted at 24.03.15 11:33:24 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 28 of 18

  • Comment 77, posted at 24.03.15 11:36:53 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • I would hate for this to be another tie.

  • Comment 78, posted at 24.03.15 11:37:53 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 75) : And that’s AB’s fault?

  • Comment 79, posted at 24.03.15 11:37:56 by Ben Reply
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  • Steyn finally gets a wicket. We breathe

  • Comment 80, posted at 24.03.15 11:38:37 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • If we can just get Elliot out now.

  • Comment 81, posted at 24.03.15 11:39:26 by Ben Reply
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  • 22 from 12

  • Comment 82, posted at 24.03.15 11:43:34 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Nail-biting stuff now.

  • Comment 83, posted at 24.03.15 11:44:01 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 79) : uhm simple stumping when they needed 100 yes bad mistake

  • Comment 84, posted at 24.03.15 11:44:30 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Come on Morné!

  • Comment 85, posted at 24.03.15 11:44:35 by Ben Reply
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  • This is going to be close

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 84) : Simple? Have you ever played cricket?

  • Comment 87, posted at 24.03.15 11:45:14 by Ben Reply
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  • If we win this it is a little miracle, DeKock also misses easy stumping

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  • Who is going to crack here

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  • @Ben (Comment 87) : yes simple, ans as a pro he should have done the job, just like you hsd your opinion due re the sharks? I have mine

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  • Score and Balls?

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  • 13 of 7

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  • Update faster please :mrgreen:

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  • And you think we are not chocking? Wtf

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  • How useless is that?

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  • My Walka said cheers 2 overs ago. Getting from ESPN cricket now

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  • 11 balls from last over

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  • Steyn owes us a big one.

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  • 10 from 5

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  • 10 needed from 5

  • Comment 100, posted at 24.03.15 11:52:02 by Ben Reply
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  • 9 from 4

  • Comment 101, posted at 24.03.15 11:52:41 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Come on Dale!

  • Comment 102, posted at 24.03.15 11:53:21 by Ben Reply
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  • Steyn hurt. Physio on the field.

  • Comment 103, posted at 24.03.15 11:54:54 by Ben Reply
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  • We are 3 dot balls away from a world cup final!!! I can’t take it anymore!

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  • Seems Steyn is getting some attention for his hammy

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  • 5 of 3

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  • 4 of 2

  • Comment 107, posted at 24.03.15 11:56:40 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • NZ wins

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  • Well done NZ.

  • Comment 109, posted at 24.03.15 11:57:51 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 90) : Steyn didn’t cost us the game?

  • Comment 110, posted at 24.03.15 11:58:23 by Ben Reply
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  • Oh well

  • Comment 111, posted at 24.03.15 11:58:34 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 110) : Steyn certainly was one of the culprits with some poor bowling at the start.

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  • Nice one Duminy. Bloody idiot!

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  • @Ben (Comment 113) : ??

  • Comment 114, posted at 24.03.15 12:00:19 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Oh well. SA and playoff games.

  • Comment 115, posted at 24.03.15 12:00:56 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Chokers, yes or no?

  • Comment 116, posted at 24.03.15 12:01:37 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 114) : Did you see the dropped catch in the second last over? Duminy ran into Behardien.

  • Comment 117, posted at 24.03.15 12:01:38 by Ben Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 116) : Nah. Wouldn’t say that this time.

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  • NZ should be very thankful for the rain.

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  • @Ben (Comment 117) : My Walka stopped grafting before then.

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 120) : Behardien dropped Elliot. Last ball off Morné’s last over.

  • Comment 121, posted at 24.03.15 12:04:31 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 118) : We did fluff a couple of straight forward wickets there though.

  • Comment 122, posted at 24.03.15 12:04:51 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • If you want to find a culprit then look to the person that didnt pick Abott

  • Comment 123, posted at 24.03.15 12:05:17 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 123) : It is just stupid to change a team at this stage.

  • Comment 124, posted at 24.03.15 12:06:07 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 123) : @Bokhoring (Comment 124) : Idiotic.

  • Comment 125, posted at 24.03.15 12:07:25 by Ben Reply
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  • gutted

  • Comment 126, posted at 24.03.15 12:07:51 by Letgo Reply
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  • I hope NZ go on and win the world cup.

  • Comment 127, posted at 24.03.15 12:09:27 by Ben Reply
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  • Seems we’re able to only dislodge one choker tag at a time….we got rid of the play-off choking tag…now we need to work at reaching the final….then only can we work at winning the darn thing.

    For now….when’s the next test match :twisted:

  • Comment 128, posted at 24.03.15 12:09:27 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 126) : Your headline is very apt for the cricket…somehow, you knew :|

  • Comment 129, posted at 24.03.15 12:11:03 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 127) : I really did not enjoy their supporters today.

  • Comment 130, posted at 24.03.15 12:11:38 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 128) : So in 8 years time if every thing goes to plan?

  • Comment 131, posted at 24.03.15 12:12:32 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 130) : They are better than the Aussie and Indian supporters.

  • Comment 132, posted at 24.03.15 12:13:05 by Ben Reply
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  • If India goes through, I will support them. Otherwise NZ

  • Comment 133, posted at 24.03.15 12:14:37 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 131) : Well, it took us 23 years to finally win a CWC play-off match…so using linear reasoning, it might take a tad more than 8 years. ;-)

  • Comment 134, posted at 24.03.15 12:16:06 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 125) : @Bokhoring (Comment 124) : Its damn frustrating to wake up at 3.00 in the morning, seeing that a form player is left out and at that stage already knowing deep down that its going to end ugly. Im gutted for all these guys but I honestly feel for Abott having to watch this knowing that he has been shafted. Bloody disgusting really.

    Rant over.

  • Comment 135, posted at 24.03.15 12:16:40 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 135) : In the end the selectors shafted themselves for selecting a player just returning from injury over one who has been on form. Apparently the reasoning was that Vern is a better batsman, but in the end he was not even needed.

  • Comment 136, posted at 24.03.15 12:24:06 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 133) : NZ might find it a bit harder to win on a real cricket field ;-)

  • Comment 137, posted at 24.03.15 12:28:14 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Pity the fool who seriously expects the Proteas to win a tight knock-out game. I’m happy with our tournament performance.

  • Comment 138, posted at 24.03.15 12:28:28 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 136) : Might be a better batsmean but honestly any fool knows what Abotts ability is to take the big wickets upfront and be very tight throughout his spell now couple that with the Black Caps ability to get going from ball one and the folly of leaving him out is obvious. It was always obvious even to the apologists who try to justify his exclusion.

  • Comment 139, posted at 24.03.15 12:33:29 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 138) : Im that fool, have always been. :cry:

    To be honest both India and Pakistan gave us a good whack.

  • Comment 140, posted at 24.03.15 12:36:57 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 137) : :grin:

  • Comment 141, posted at 24.03.15 12:37:57 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 139) : Sounds like they should have started him!

    One ball, what a way to lose.

  • Comment 142, posted at 24.03.15 12:38:46 by StevieS Reply
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  • Well at least it wasn’t a tie…..I would never have survived that.

  • Comment 143, posted at 24.03.15 12:46:03 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 143) : 1999 counts with 2007 as sporting days to rather forget.

  • Comment 144, posted at 24.03.15 12:48:46 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 144) :

    Yip.

    It wasn’t great sitting in the rain at Kings Mead in 2003 either.

  • Comment 145, posted at 24.03.15 13:23:50 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 145) : How could I forget that disaster?

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 138) : @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 140) :

    Me too. I’m that fool to. :cry:

  • Comment 147, posted at 24.03.15 13:25:07 by Letgo Reply
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  • so once again South Africa was snookered by the weather.
    What is it with the Proteas and the weather.
    I would like to ask the resident dominee and all the other God botherers on this site is this God’s doing does he hate the Proteas.
    I know this is a loaded question but every week we have to endure some sportsman thanking his saviour for a victory on the sports field.Hell I even heard Coennie Oosthuizen thank the Lord for allowing him to smash his opponents non stop into oblivion for 80 minutes.
    So while I am confused that if God actually does play rugby, why would he back the Bulls.
    I reckon if he does have an effect on the weather,then he sure as shite doesn’t like the Proteas.

  • Comment 148, posted at 24.03.15 13:25:18 by The hound Reply
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  • Will there be heartbreak on the rugby side again this year. I hope not. I will have to give up one code if it happens.

    The Sharks need to start losing now or win the whole thing.

    Really, really gutted.

  • Comment 149, posted at 24.03.15 13:26:47 by Letgo Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 148) :

    Very philosophical question that. Are you actually looking for a genuine answer to that.

    God doesn’t care about sport.

    Players thank God for giving you the talent and the privilege to play the sport, not for the win and therefore you will see losing captains sometimes also taking a knee.

    Btw, God can allow adversity to make us stronger or to draw nearer to him. The Bible talks a lot about God testing his children because he loves them.

    Like AB said in his interview last night, the sun will come up again tomorrow.

    And with that, I have to thank you, because now I feel a lot better.

    Sport is sport. It is there for our enjoyment and entertainment and this game certainly was that.

    Admittedly I still feel a nauseating feeling at the pit of my stomach.

  • Comment 150, posted at 24.03.15 13:32:18 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 150) : There was no disgrace in that loss, I was merely taking the mumbo jumbo out of the equation.
    If you have ever been to New Zealand you will understand why they absolutely had to win.
    The whole country is defined by one thing the All Blacks,and now the Black Caps.
    We were hungry for a win they were desperate,a loss would have meant mass suicides,and the Prime Minister resigning.
    Ia

  • Comment 151, posted at 24.03.15 13:40:38 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 151) :

    I think maybe some of our boys were also too desperate.

    AB’s stuff up with the run out. Faf running backwards for a catch when Amla was coming in from the boundary, Duminy diving into Behardien while trying to make a pretty simple catch. De Kock missing the ball trying to effect a run out. Muller missing the stumps to run Vittory out.

    Choke. And I don’t like giving teams that tag, but really. The pressure got to us and we choked.

  • Comment 152, posted at 24.03.15 14:01:28 by Letgo Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 151) :

    I thought you may have just been asking in jest.

  • Comment 153, posted at 24.03.15 14:02:16 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 152) : you are so wrong we lost on the second last ball,that is not a choke.If we had won it would have been a great victory,and we were two balls away from winning.
    Steyn couldn’t do it today unfortunatelyAnd we were beaten by a South African.

  • Comment 154, posted at 24.03.15 14:13:41 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 154) : Sad but true.

  • Comment 155, posted at 24.03.15 14:54:41 by Ben Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 154) : We choked boet, when the pressure came we couldn’t handle it and thus the mistakes as we know, that’s choking with a capital C :???:

  • Comment 156, posted at 24.03.15 16:17:24 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 156) : We mostly looked flustered in the NZ innings – totally flustered in the last 15 overs. The pressure got to us.

  • Comment 157, posted at 24.03.15 16:29:25 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 156) : You are such a dick with a capital D.You have a contest there is a winner and a loser.It doesn’t get closer than this.In that cauldron .that atmosphere,with the majority willing you to lose to come that close is hardly a choke.
    You my friend have probably never played anything more competitive than playstation.
    That team left nothing out there.Fuck I hate South African fans,where is it written that we have rights to every contest we enter.
    We made it to within two balls of a world cup final,and you call it a choke.

  • Comment 158, posted at 24.03.15 16:29:58 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 158) :

    I find myself agreeing 100% percent with you hound.

    SA did us proud and ABdV was the perfect sportsman. After the game there was no blaming DL, the rain, the crowd, the dropped catches. Just thank you to the electric crowd, the better team won and walks off with tears in his eyes.

    That was no choke – we got beaten by a team that was better than us, both on the day and throughout the last 6 months or so.

    I’m proud of the boys. They played decent honest cricket, made the semi and lost with a ball to spare. Sad, but such is profesisonal sport. Small margins win matches.

  • Comment 159, posted at 24.03.15 16:35:29 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 157) :

    WTF are you talking about.
    If anythign we handled the pressure better than, for exmaple, in the Indian game.

    End of the day our batting hasnt been quite good enough and we were seriously short of a 5th bowler.

    Its worth mentioning, we seriously, seriously missed JK in this WC.

  • Comment 160, posted at 24.03.15 16:36:50 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 159) : Thanks Lucky,best sports contest I have watched in ages went all the way to the wire.That is what T.V Sport is about.

  • Comment 161, posted at 24.03.15 16:46:33 by The hound Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 160) : McCullum’s little blitzkrieg set the tone for the innings. An excellent over from Tahir slowed down the carnage, but by then the damage (to the scoreboard and our psyche) was done. We had our chances to win the game – we just did not take enough of them. Nothing to be ashamed of – I just think NZ handled the pressure a lot better in the end.

    I do agree – we missed an all-rounder of the calibre of Kallis.

  • Comment 162, posted at 24.03.15 16:48:59 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 160) : And it is a damn pity that a once in a lifetime player like AB will probably never win a world cup.

  • Comment 163, posted at 24.03.15 16:56:32 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 162) : Who is that all rounder and who played so appallingly that you would have dropped him.
    And give us an example of someone who couldn’t handle the pressure,because I watched the whole game and must have missed some one crumbling under the anxiety.

  • Comment 164, posted at 24.03.15 16:58:24 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 164) : We did not have one to select – that was one of our weaknesses. There is just no one currently in SA that can perform the role Kallis did for us.

    How many lifelines did we give Elliott in the end?

  • Comment 165, posted at 24.03.15 17:09:29 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • hey guys, any news on what happened at liam’s citing hearing?

  • Comment 166, posted at 24.03.15 17:13:49 by Stiko85 Reply

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  • @Stiko85 (Comment 166) : No punishment.

  • Comment 167, posted at 24.03.15 17:16:04 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • seriously??? nothing at all? is there like an official report on his hearing like with bissie and steyn?

  • Comment 168, posted at 24.03.15 18:15:48 by Stiko85 Reply

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  • Choke:
    “An act in which a team or a person collaspe when they are expected to win no matter what the other team does.” – Urban Dictionary

    I guess we didn’t choke….

    “The failure of an athlete or an athletic team to win a game or tournament when the player or team had been strongly favored to win or had squandered a large lead in the late stages of the event.” – wikipedia.

    I guess the Sharks never choked either.

  • Comment 169, posted at 24.03.15 18:33:21 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 169) : New Zealand have yet to lose a game, we lost to India and Pakistan.They are at home, playing on a rugby field with vey short boundaries,they were heavy favourites.They only caught our total in the last two balls,so how is that a choke.
    Wait till New Zealand get to the MCG,and have to play on a real field,a lot of their sixes at Eden Park will fall vey short of the boundary.
    by the way Sharks won last week.
    @Bokhoring (Comment 165) : There is currently no Jaques Kallis any where in the world,so don’t feel left out.

  • Comment 170, posted at 24.03.15 18:52:15 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 170) :

    Crikey, yes, Eden PArk looked like a mini-crickt field.

    We were beaten by the better team on the day and the better team over the tournament.
    Amazing that we got so close, given how lacking weve been in the fourth and fifth bowler category.

    I also didnt say we should left a JK replacement at home – im saying we missed his allrounding and the gap he left was where this campaign fell down.

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 169) :

    We werent close to being favourites.

  • Comment 172, posted at 24.03.15 19:00:43 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 170) : @VinChainSaw (Comment 172) : Which is why I said, I guess we didn’t choke.

    Agree RE: the field, had it been a cricket oval (and not a glorified rugby rect-oval) I’m fairly certain we would have taken it.

    For me though…bring on the real cricket, bring on test cricket ;-)

  • Comment 173, posted at 24.03.15 19:17:23 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 171) : Parnell and Behardien were sent over there to do the Jaques job.
    Bigest mistake today was to play an unfit Philander and an injured Steyn ahead of Abo.

  • Comment 174, posted at 24.03.15 19:19:44 by The hound Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 173) : O.K. Sorry I read you wrong,I see what you mean,yup playing in Eden park would be like playing in Ellis Park.

  • Comment 175, posted at 24.03.15 19:22:07 by The hound Reply
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  • @Stiko85 (Comment 168) : http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_38922,00.html

  • Comment 176, posted at 24.03.15 21:10:30 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • You could see the panic written all over the SA cricket players’ faces in those last 10 overs. Botched run outs, dropped catches. Yes, it was a clear choke.

    But then, it was SA in a CWC. What did we expect?

    My take is that you only had to listen to AB de Villiers in press conferences and his post loss conference to realise the team were placing FAR too much pressure on themselves. The press here in NZ ramped up the self imposed pressure and we had comments from NZ players that SA were placing themselves under too much pressure to win and”cricket is meant to be fun”.

    Worst part for me is the number of SA expats here in NZ who now support NZ. These guys are so bitter with SA and the circumstances which caused them to leave that they’ve gone overboard in their support for their new but still foreign country. Heard a few times the phrase “I support the country which supports me.” They seem especially pleased – as if its a justification for their decision – that the winning runs were smashed by a SA expat. They disgust me. But its their choice.

  • Comment 177, posted at 24.03.15 21:51:04 by Feather Reply

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  • @Feather (Comment 177) : Ah mate, yeah it’s distasteful, but each unto his own.

    Everybody justifies their choices in their own way.
    I’ve been living abroad for more than 10 years and my experience is that expats showcase the best and worst that SA has to offer. It’s a very bipolar bunch and each has his or her cross to bare.
    I hold another passport but will always see myself first and foremost as a South African.

  • Comment 178, posted at 24.03.15 22:19:39 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 176) : thanks #okhoring. horible reasoning if you ask me. so because liam has a good track recorded he has licence to choke hold our player and get away with nothing. mxm. sick of these damn new zeelanders being treated like gods by sanzar. whats the damn point in finding a player guilty and yet imposing no sanction. ken ma net gese het hys ‘n all black so hy kom vry. kag man. mxm

  • Comment 179, posted at 24.03.15 22:51:10 by Stiko85 Reply

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  • @Feather (Comment 177) : are they any worse than the one’s who emigrate but still have one foot on the plane.
    Hell friend if you are going to emigrate either adopt the country you have voluntarily gone to or come home.
    I have lived outside the country many times in the past forty years,but have always come home to Durban.U.K. ,Canada,Australia,Singapore,
    My pet hate are theS.A. expats who took the chicken run and years later are now incredibly pissed off that terrible blood letting they were convinced was going to happen never did.
    It is almost as if they resent the fact that we are still alive,and most of us still living the life20 years after apartheid

  • Comment 180, posted at 24.03.15 23:13:38 by The hound Reply
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  • So Liam Messam is found guilty but gets no punishment?! Hmmm…

  • Comment 181, posted at 25.03.15 06:57:25 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Stiko85 (Comment 179) : It was Jannie Lubbe – same guy that canceled Frans’s red card.

  • Comment 182, posted at 25.03.15 07:58:40 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 170) : JK is a special case, but most top teams do have an all rounder in the mix. Take Anderson from NZ – ODI batting ave=36.72, bowling ave=24.68, economy=6.31. The closest we have is Duminy – batting ave=39.66 but bowling = 39.98.

  • Comment 183, posted at 25.03.15 08:07:13 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 182) : same guy that gave bissie 4 weeks. the difference is he found steyn not guilty. liam on the other hand was found guilty but apparently choke holding someone on the ground, intentionally, is in the lower region of offences and therefore no further sanction is needed. mind you the player wasn’t punished during the game itself. so what sanction were given to the player besides the fact that he was guilty? no apology no warning nothing.

  • Comment 184, posted at 25.03.15 08:09:58 by Stiko85 Reply

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  • @Stiko85 (Comment 184) : He was found not guilty of a dangerous tackle – “The original charge of a breach of Law 10.4 (e) Dangerous Tackling was amended to a breach of Law 10.4 (m) Acts contrary to good sportsmanship.”

    Bissie appeared in front of Adam Casselden.

  • Comment 185, posted at 25.03.15 08:17:11 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • with steyn they admitted the ref made the wrong call. with liam they admit he broke the law that he acted unsportman like and he himself pleads guilty. but suddenly lubbe decides that it would be wrong to punish him for his actions. no we just parden him. not even a slap on the wrist mind you. u cant just parden someone who commits a red card offense without any form of panishment. if he got a yellow card or a red during the game than fine. but he gets away with what he did just like that. unfair!

  • Comment 186, posted at 25.03.15 08:18:28 by Stiko85 Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 185) : so the folks that laid the charge against him called charged him with breaking the wrong law? kag man. this is still unfair. wonder what will happen if a south african chokes someone like that. i bet you he isnt going to get away with “no further santion”. so bissie should have appeared before lubbe ne. he might have gotten away with a slap on the wrist or one week.

  • Comment 187, posted at 25.03.15 08:25:44 by Stiko85 Reply

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  • @Stiko85 (Comment 187) : For sure – it seems Lubbe is the man you want to judge your case.

  • Comment 188, posted at 25.03.15 08:46:32 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 158) : @VinChainSaw (Comment 159) : Ok maybe we didnt choke, but we as sure as hell dont have BMT, couple that with dodgy team selections and the writing was on the wall. No one is saying they didnt try, they did right down to the end but the more they tried the more they fumbled and stumbled – no BMT.

    A few weeks ago Domingo said we didnt need a sports psychologist for this team and so none accompanied the them. They needed one and they probably need one even more today.
    You want an allrounder – Ryan McLaren should have been there. he would have filled a huge void. Why wasnt he selected?

    In the end Im immensely proud of them, they are my team after all.

  • Comment 189, posted at 25.03.15 08:52:03 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Feather (Comment 177) : @VinChainSaw (Comment 178) : Yeah we are an enigma unto ourselves. Safffas for the larger part cant love their homeland and their new country equally and that should be the easiest thing to do.
    And the emigrants just cant stop scanning all forms of SA media looking for a rant.

  • Comment 190, posted at 25.03.15 09:11:46 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 190) : Every South African no matter what colour is the descendant of emigrants.
    Mclaren was not there because Parnell and Behardien were selected ahead of him.

  • Comment 191, posted at 25.03.15 09:17:07 by The hound Reply
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  • McClaren should have been there. Abott should have played yesterday.

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 192) : I agree with you 100% on both counts,Abo should have been chosen ahead of Steyn who was carrying an injury,and Philander who hadn’t played for two weeks.
    If anyone choked it was the management,which consists of a huge team of coaches and not the players.
    But imagine if Steyn had been dropped and we still lost,we would never have heard the end of it

  • Comment 193, posted at 25.03.15 10:37:46 by The hound Reply
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  • Interesting that Kaplan reckons the ref made the right call by red carding Steyn…

  • Comment 194, posted at 25.03.15 10:49:02 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 193) : Spot on, management needs to man up on this one, far, far more than any one of the players.

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 194) : Did Kaplan see the additional video?

    Also interesting is that Kaplan feels the refs need to “protect” players more, referring to Bismark being constantly targeted with off the ball crap.

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 194) :

    I agree with Kaplan and the on field refs. Since when is it not a red card when the tackled player manages to brace himself with his forearm before landing on his shoulders/neck/head. I thought it was dangerous and could have ended up seriously injuring Cruden.

    I also thought Steyn would get at least 2 weeks.

    But then the shoulder charge of Hika only got a week and Messam got of complete free, the player who went into Reinach with his knee and injured him, was never even mentioned.

  • Comment 197, posted at 25.03.15 12:20:11 by Letgo Reply
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