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Quotes from Gary Gold


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 5 May 2015 at 14:33
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The Sharks have sent through some thought from Gary Gold after last week’s loss to the Highlanders.

General thoughts post Highlanders:

It was obviously a very disappointing game on the weekend, for all involved, certainly not the result we expected and we made a very good team look outstanding by making so many errors. We counted about 15 times we lost the ball, coughed up possession at critical times and against a team with a backline like theirs, they’re going to hurt you. We saw it in the early exchanges when we lost the ball 2m from their line and they ran the length of the field and scored. We have a new challenge this weekend, the guys have worked particularly hard around the error rate.

Righting the wrongs:

The issue for us is that this is a matter of pride, of massive pride. We’ve let a lot of people down, we’ve let a lot of supporters down; the expectations were high for this team. I’m not about to provide any excuses for what happened in our performance, it was sub-standard and whatever the reasons are, we’ll investigate that. I take responsibility for it, I’ve said that before, but the bottom line is that we have to fix it. The business we’re in provides us with lots of opportunities to fix it. If we don’t fix it this weekend, we’re going to be on the end of another hiding and none of us wants that. We understand what this weekend is going to bring, there’s a big personal element involved, I’m a good friend of Plum but it doesn’t help that he knows the intricacies of nearly all of our players.

The Hurricanes are in a good position and not likely to ease up, are they?

No, especially when one considers how tightly-fought the New Zealand Conference is. The Hurricanes would be silly to even remotely take the foot off the gas and they’re going to play a team low on confidence, whose form has been particularly poor and they’re going to see that as blood in the water. We realise that the season is probably getting away from us and from our point of view, it’s a matter of playing for pride, week after week and showing our supporters that this jersey matters a lot to us. The performances have hurt us and we have to fix it.

Return of Frans Steyn

Yes, he is available for us this weekend and it’s wonderful to have a guy like Frans back. Jannie is also back which makes a difference for us, although we’ve lost Cobus who has returned home. It’s cruel how sport is – when things are bad they’re particularly bad. We’ve had an injury crisis but it is an opportunity for young guys to step up to the plate. We have some big challenges ahead but other teams have also been in this position before and came out stronger. So it’s exciting to have guys like Frans, Jannie and Renaldo back and it’s important that we focus on the positives.

Where to from here in terms of the tour and remainder of the season?

It’s about gaining pride. Letting the supporters realise that we are hurting in this matter; for us, this is far from what we expect. We have three games to go and nowhere to hide – no-one wants to hide – and it’s about showing some incredible courage. We want to show, as players, and to the supporters, that we have a lot of fight still in us. In the next two weeks, we’re playing two of the top teams in the competition, so we have our work cut out for us, but that’s what this sport does for us; it provides challenges that normal day-to-day life doesn’t. The unbelievable challenges with our backs against the wall. I have absolutely no doubt that we are going to learn a lot of lessons in the next few weeks and there are going to be some huge challenges awaiting us. From my point of view, this is a group that has to show that we want to fight for our pride and to show everyone what it means to us to be involved in The Sharks.



119 Comments

  • what’s that phrase again? Oh yeah…. “words are wind”

  • Comment 1, posted at 05.05.15 14:36:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 1) : Wind can smell some times.

  • Comment 2, posted at 05.05.15 14:43:48 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Oh f8ck, i forgot Plums at the Canes, saturday could be horrific.

  • Comment 3, posted at 05.05.15 14:45:44 by billy Reply

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  • What transpires on the field of play is a result of what happens off it. For your sakes, and that of your supporters, I hope your goals for the remaining two games are achieved.

  • Comment 4, posted at 05.05.15 14:46:33 by Morné Reply
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  • And thats the frustrating part of it all – this team should not be learning lessons, they have the personnel to be teaching other teams those lessons. Frustrating.

  • Comment 5, posted at 05.05.15 14:48:15 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • “We’ve had an injury crisis but it is an opportunity for young guys to step up to the plate.”

    You say young guys, I say retreaded locks… :???:

  • Comment 6, posted at 05.05.15 14:50:04 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @billy (Comment 3) : We just have to win this game, somehow.

  • Comment 7, posted at 05.05.15 14:50:04 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • There are quite a few songs about words – It’s only words (Bee Gees),Words don’t come easy (F.R.David),Words (Hawk Nelson) & so on. Gary Gold, you manged championship teams in England & Japan as well as with Dick Muir, so what is going wrong here?Gaining pride?Where and why was it lost in the first place?There was no reason for it.Ever heard of “I get knocked down,I get up again”? :|

  • Comment 8, posted at 05.05.15 14:52:59 by markm Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 7) : looking at past results against NZ teams…. we might need an early red card…

  • Comment 9, posted at 05.05.15 14:53:21 by Kabouter Reply

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  • Reading this article i’m thinking: blah blah blah – same old story different venue.. #BloodyHell
    @Morné (Comment 4) : I’m sure one of those goals should be not to lose by more than 50pts :sad:
    @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 7) : If we win saturday – someone “fixed” the match lol :mrgreen:

  • Comment 10, posted at 05.05.15 14:55:05 by RedSharkUtd82 Reply

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  • Can you not start Hoffman then?

  • Comment 11, posted at 05.05.15 14:59:26 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • Seriously guys we need to get behind this team or else shut up.
    If you are a true Sharks fan,you probably have said it all.
    No good repeating ad naseum all the I told you so’s and if only’s.
    Right now if you ever felt anything for this team,and want to feel it again,
    be positive.
    Think what you like but don’t say it,the Stormers and Bulls fans are doing that already,
    the western cape press are having a field day,don’t stick your boot in with them.
    We know we are shite at the moment,but hell this is the Sharks.

  • Comment 12, posted at 05.05.15 14:59:35 by The hound Reply
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  • It’s easy to say “we’re hurting” and we want to do it for our fans” But I want to hear what the problems are and how you are going to fix them. None of this “whatever the reasons are, we will investigate that” bullshit! Last weekend’s thumping could hardly have taken you by surprise Gold. It’s not a new problem, the Sharks have been shit from game 1. If you don’t have a clue by now what they are it means you’re doing jackshit to fix them.

    The more I hear this guy talk the more I realise he has no substance. Smooth talker, says the right thing but at the same time says nothing at all. Make me wonder whether he actually has a clue.

  • Comment 13, posted at 05.05.15 15:02:48 by Feather Reply

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  • blah blah blah it is about pride blah blah blah we let the supporters down blah blah blah it is about pride blah blah blah we have an injury crisis blah blah blah it is about pride blah blah blah we made a lot of errors blah blah blah it is about pride blah blah blah Plum is going to kill us blah blah blah it is about pride blah blah blah we have our work cut out for us blah blah blah it is about pride blah blah blah

    If it were so much about pride and there was plenty of fight still in the players, why has none of this been shown on the field of play. On the field, the Sharks have shown nothing but disdain for the jersey and the loyal supporters. When is he going to present solutions and implement them :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

  • Comment 14, posted at 05.05.15 15:05:06 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • No comment on the incredible tactic of kicking straight to one of the best back threes in the business with the closest chaser 30 meters away? So we can expect more of the same this coming weekend?

  • Comment 15, posted at 05.05.15 15:06:29 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Gary Gold, I hereby dub thee Miss Alabama, in honour of all the vacuous answers delivered over the years by beauty pageant contestants. You do them proud!

  • Comment 16, posted at 05.05.15 15:08:20 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Honestly these quotes from Gold are no more enlightening than the infamous Brendan Venter “I have to think about that, think very deeply” Saracens interview. :mrgreen: :shock:

  • Comment 17, posted at 05.05.15 15:09:11 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 7) : from your keyboard to Gods ears, i hope:)

  • Comment 18, posted at 05.05.15 15:10:13 by billy Reply

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  • “We’ve had an injury crisis but it is an opportunity for young guys to step up to the plate”

    SO WHY DON’T YOU USE THEM??????

    What a bunch of damage control drivel.

  • Comment 19, posted at 05.05.15 15:10:32 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 16) : Hey you got a prollem with ‘merican suthners?????

  • Comment 20, posted at 05.05.15 15:11:10 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 14) : Do you honestly believe that nobody in the whole setup cares ,or is not bleeding.
    I am sure everything is being done that can be done,the damage is done you cannot undo it.
    Why and whatever are superfluous.
    The question is can it come right,if your answer is no,then the solution is simple find a team that is winning to support,because seriously man this supporting is an easy game if you want to always be on the winning side,just keep changing to the winning team.
    But if you are deep dyed in the wool Sharks fan,then you sign up to take the rough with the smooth.
    Right now its as rough as a Bear’s arse,hang on buddy,enjoy the rough side.

  • Comment 21, posted at 05.05.15 15:13:22 by The hound Reply
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  • If I look at this team at the moment I see a majority of players disinterested and just going through the motions, and a coaching staff who have absolutely no idea what to do next.

    All I can hope for is for the senior players to stand up, pull this team together and go someway towards the magic they performed towards the end of the 2012 season.

  • Comment 22, posted at 05.05.15 15:15:27 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 17) : You do realise I hope what that interview was actually about.

  • Comment 23, posted at 05.05.15 15:15:48 by The hound Reply
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  • Blah blah blah. Do your talking on the field or shut up Gary Gold!

  • Comment 24, posted at 05.05.15 15:16:13 by Ben Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 20) : No problem. Feel free to insert the backwards hick state of your choice :mrgreen:

  • Comment 25, posted at 05.05.15 15:16:38 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 21) : I’m not going anywhere, I have been through worse as a Sharks supporter. Doesn’t change what I said above, I am not seeing the pride I want to see from our players and coaches, words are words, I want to see passion that does not involve an angry and stupid outburst. But I am never going anywhere else, you’re right, it is rough, but I am in for the long haul as they say.

  • Comment 26, posted at 05.05.15 15:18:01 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 26) : Good man .

  • Comment 27, posted at 05.05.15 15:20:09 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 23) : Oh I am fully aware of the history leading up to that interview. I also happen to think it is one of the funniest things available on YouTube and therefore watch :mrgreen: that interview often.

  • Comment 28, posted at 05.05.15 15:20:13 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 28) : Have you seen the original?

  • Comment 29, posted at 05.05.15 15:21:01 by The hound Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 19) : In Shady Pines Conrad Hoffmann would count as a youngster, although I expect a couple of the old geezers may just give him a go in getting back to dive on a ball behind the Sharks’ try line.

  • Comment 30, posted at 05.05.15 15:22:41 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 25) : First of all, you must work on your ‘merican suthner slang……certain words are contracted for no reason while other words the first few letters are simply dropped. The state you referred to in your comment is actually referred to as ‘bama. The suthern ‘merican accent is unique in that they can contract a multi-syllable word into a single syllable, while somehow pronouncing the word cab in five syllables. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 31, posted at 05.05.15 15:23:15 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 29) : Oh yes, and the full interview leading to his sanction in the first place.

  • Comment 32, posted at 05.05.15 15:24:18 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • All this from Gold sounds very familiar to what he sad when we lost to the Cheetahs…and the Bulls etc many many weeks ago…so shot for the words Gary. Seems there not much you capable of doing. Perhaps as supporters we need to realise how good we actually are these days…and dont get our hopes up of winning everything.

  • Comment 33, posted at 05.05.15 15:24:51 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 21) :

    A bear taking a dump asked a rabbit
    “Does shit stick to your fur as a habit?”
    “Of course not,” said the hare,
    “It’s really quite rare!”
    So the bear wiped his ass with the rabbit.

  • Comment 34, posted at 05.05.15 15:25:23 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Suggested answer for Gold’s next interview:

    We have identified several serious problem areas, and have worked out a solution to each, which we are currently implementing. I don’t want to provide the details, as I feel it is important to keep some cards close to your vest as you prepare for a top level opponent. :mrgreen: Now of course it would be even better if it were true :!: :twisted:

  • Comment 35, posted at 05.05.15 15:28:14 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • No one is listening anymore Gary…you have lost credibility. And your strategy of giving young talent the opportunity is so obvious with the inclusion of stevens and murray oh and Odwa too. Yup plenty of opportunity while waiting behind has been and never will be like hoffman. In any other team he would lose his spot after a performance like last week, but at Mr. Gold’s golf academy (where we go for the lowest score) he is a superstar.

  • Comment 36, posted at 05.05.15 15:28:33 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 34) : clever bear! ;-)

  • Comment 37, posted at 05.05.15 15:28:57 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 34) : The moral of the story being don’t shit with the bears,if you are a rabbit.
    Kinda reminds me of Bakkies Botha taking out Gio,Frans Steyn on Kolbe or better still Big Willem on Mark Richards.

  • Comment 38, posted at 05.05.15 15:30:36 by The hound Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 36) : I look at golf differently, I figured out that I get more bang for my buck the more I hit the ball…..makes sense no? :mrgreen: :razz:

  • Comment 39, posted at 05.05.15 15:31:14 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 38) : Frans Steyn turning Kurtley Beale into a rag doll last year was kind of fun. ;-) :twisted:

  • Comment 40, posted at 05.05.15 15:32:29 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Here is your problem Gary:

    “On average per game, the Sharks have missed more tackles than any other team after 12 rounds of the competition – 22.5% of tackles attempted are not effective.

    Statistically, the Chiefs have the best defence in Super Rugby, and the Lions are not far behind them.

    The statistics on individual Sharks players reveal a great deal.

    Probably the best defender for the Sharks this year has been Marcell Coetzee, who has also played the most minutes – 787 – and has made 100 tackles while missing just 10.

    Veteran lock Mouritz Botha is at the other end of the scale, having missed 24 tackles for the 68 he has made. Let’s be fair to the 33-year-old, he is not the front-line of defence.

    Perhaps of more concern is inside centre Andre Esterhuizen, who has missed 18 tackles for the 55 he has made in 463 minutes of game time.

    The Sharks’ midfield is where the opposition are making the clean line-breaks.

    And the coaching staff would be concerned that fullback Odwa Ndungane has missed 15 tackles, having made just 25, in 719 minutes of game time.”

  • Comment 41, posted at 05.05.15 15:35:11 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 30) : Wait what? 27 is young? Well I guess it is when the rest of the team is over 30…. :x I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

  • Comment 42, posted at 05.05.15 15:35:37 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 38) : Albert’s vs Richards – that one still gives me the chills for all the wrong reasons. For a few seconds there I was convinced I had just witnessed a death on a rugby field.

  • Comment 43, posted at 05.05.15 15:36:54 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 41) : Never fear, Miss Alabama is one step ahead of you, and has already flown out an extra hooker to counter those ills…

  • Comment 44, posted at 05.05.15 15:38:45 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 43) : The beauty of that one was that Alberts wasn’t the tackler,Richard’s was.
    Do you remember that Samoan they called the Chiropracter taking out Derek Houghaard,

  • Comment 45, posted at 05.05.15 15:41:12 by The hound Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 30) : Hoffman showed the same urgency diving on that ball in goal as he does driving to the gym for his weight session.

  • Comment 46, posted at 05.05.15 15:41:38 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 45) : Brian Lima. Imagine a defensive lineup of Henry Honiball, Pieter Muller and him!

  • Comment 47, posted at 05.05.15 15:44:15 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 45) : Brian “the Chiropractor” Lima :lol: I think he was in his late 30s when he did that to Hougaard. Funny thing is there is a real chiropractor in Charleston South Carolina named Brian Lima, I wonder if anyone is brave enough to allow him to perform any chiropractic procedure on them? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 48, posted at 05.05.15 15:46:23 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 47) : And Butch James (with an extra set of arms). :mrgreen:

  • Comment 49, posted at 05.05.15 15:47:13 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 47) : + Butch James, granted he would only play 50% of the games and be suspended for the others, but would make them count.

    Edit: Lol that timing.

  • Comment 50, posted at 05.05.15 15:47:42 by Seth101 Reply
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  • I would still be concerned with Odwa as well since many tries were scored on wing where he was last line. But Esterhuizen a definite concern. His handling very poor too. Never mind having a battering ram can we just get a better ball player? Heimar would have done better. Hopefully frans will step in there, was hoping he could cover fullback but the need is greater at center

  • Comment 51, posted at 05.05.15 15:47:56 by coolfusion Reply

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  • So according to Gold: “We counted about 15 times we lost the ball, coughed up possession at critical times and against a team with a backline like theirs, they’re going to hurt you. We saw it in the early exchanges when we lost the ball 2m from their line and they ran the length of the field and scored.”

    So why the hell did we kick the ball straight back to the Highlanders back 3 pretty much every time we got it in the first half? I can’t speak for the 2nd half because I stopped watching (the first time ever). Zeilanga and Reinach must have kicked the ball away more than 15 times in the 1st half alone.

    Too dof to be anything other than tactics/instructions.

    Again, this inconsistency just boggles the mind!

  • Comment 52, posted at 05.05.15 15:48:21 by Feather Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 49) : Maybe if he had 4 arms he would use one of them in a tackle. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 53, posted at 05.05.15 15:49:05 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 50) : :lol: :lol: :lol: nice

  • Comment 54, posted at 05.05.15 15:49:45 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Frans at 12 is hardly the most dynamic player but he is a huge step up from Esterhuizen. We need Jordaan back soon. At least he can step. Sithole and JP on the wings. I would have Mvovo at 15. No way he can be worse than Odwa.

  • Comment 55, posted at 05.05.15 15:51:50 by Feather Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 53) : He would still do his horizontal dive tackles managing to land all 4 arms around the players neck rather than the body. :mrgreen:

    Edit:
    http://cdn1.rugbydump.com/posts/butch-james-high-tackle-yellow.jpg
    Only with 4 arms instead.

  • Comment 56, posted at 05.05.15 15:52:00 by Seth101 Reply
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  • What a mess even down to this PR mess,what a mess

  • Comment 57, posted at 05.05.15 15:54:08 by benji Reply
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  • @Feather (Comment 52) : Coughing up the ball and turning over possession is an error a mistake. Kicking the ball straight back to them is part of the game plan. What consistency are you looking for??? :mrgreen: :razz:

  • Comment 58, posted at 05.05.15 15:54:09 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 45) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxLoS0k-68g

  • Comment 59, posted at 05.05.15 15:55:13 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 56) : :grin: :grin: :grin: :lol: :lol: :lol: just imagining that 4 arm high tackle now. I still loved Butch as a player though. That picture does reveal his problem though, his eyes are closed.

  • Comment 60, posted at 05.05.15 15:56:42 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Thank your lucky stars Beauden Barrett is injured

  • Comment 61, posted at 05.05.15 15:56:51 by Morné Reply
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  • I agree sithole,jp on wing and mvovo on 15. Would have been nice to move Andre to 15 frans to 12 but Andre is no where near ready. But more likely they will panic and bring jp on wing next to frans and keep sithole mvovo on wing and Odwa at 15. If there is one thing I have seen about Gary it’s that he is a very slow learner.

  • Comment 62, posted at 05.05.15 15:57:44 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Feather (Comment 55) : I have a feeling we will see Frans at 10 this week. Personally I am hoping for 15 with Cronje at 10.

  • Comment 63, posted at 05.05.15 15:58:10 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 61) : Unfortunately the rest of the team isn’t or we would have a chance, if only a chance.

  • Comment 64, posted at 05.05.15 15:58:15 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 60) : If you look back pretty much every time he ever tackled he closed his eyes and threw his whole body at the player, sometimes high, sometimes forgot his arms, but always effective! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 65, posted at 05.05.15 16:02:42 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Agree with bokhoring. Gold will panic and stick to old combos. Don’t expect any creativity or competence in selection and pairing. The fact that he called up Cooper and not rely on Marais shows this.
    If Jordan can go back in we can have sithole steyn centers Cronje flyhalf JP,Jordaan wings Mvovo fullback

  • Comment 66, posted at 05.05.15 16:06:27 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Seth101 (Comment 65) : Sometimes effective in earning a penalty or card. His eyes being closed in the tackle was something I remember discussing many years ago, when he was still playing. I honestly believe that many of his shoulder tackles were simply mistimed and he didn’t get his arms up because his eyes were closed and he could not see his opponent, same with the high tackles. Loved watching him play though.

  • Comment 67, posted at 05.05.15 16:06:41 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 67) : Indeed, one of my favorite players ever.

  • Comment 68, posted at 05.05.15 16:09:44 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 68) : If it weren’t for Butch’s injuries early in Jake White’s tenure as Bok coach, we would have seen a 10/12 combo of Butch and DeWet Barry. Not sure anyone would be happy trying to attack that channel.

  • Comment 69, posted at 05.05.15 16:18:38 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 68) : the best 10 the sharks and Bokke have ever had

  • Comment 70, posted at 05.05.15 16:26:24 by benji Reply
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  • Who James, the best? No way.

    Honiball.

  • Comment 71, posted at 05.05.15 16:28:53 by Feather Reply

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  • (In the modern era)

  • Comment 72, posted at 05.05.15 16:29:13 by Feather Reply

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  • What qualifies as the modern Era. Cause the best 10 is pat Lambie and Henry honiball.

  • Comment 73, posted at 05.05.15 16:31:58 by coolfusion Reply

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  • The wisest thing any of us supporters can do right now….prepare for the worst, the absolute worst.

    Alas, it’s time for a phrase that has become a right of passage for any true Sharks supporter – “Maybe next year”

  • Comment 74, posted at 05.05.15 16:35:53 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 17) : To be fair, I think in that interview he was being sarcastic after being in hot water after criticizing a match official or something>

  • Comment 75, posted at 05.05.15 16:54:44 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 75) : Yes, he was sanctioned after comments made in a previous interview. I thought it was a hilarious way to deal with the sanction he received.

  • Comment 76, posted at 05.05.15 17:05:16 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 75) : That doesn’t change my comment that Gold’s interview was as informative as that infamous interview with Venter.

  • Comment 77, posted at 05.05.15 17:06:37 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 46) : HAHAHAHAHAHA…Excellent!!!!!! And so true

    What a goon that Hoffman. He shouldn’t be allowed close to a sharks jersey. He is absolutely spineless, boneless, gutless.

    At least Stevens take contact when he has to scrum, so he is doing something for the sharks, not at all a good job, but at least he is making contact.

  • Comment 78, posted at 05.05.15 17:17:38 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • As for Gary Gold…
    Good luck boet, all of this will have to transpire into something on the field. Only then will I believe you.

    But until then, I won’t bash / sledge/ or shout at you, I will just calmly keep my comments for myself.

  • Comment 79, posted at 05.05.15 17:19:33 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • I have a question. Could it be that the Sharks have financial crisis and that is the reason for substandard players being signed?

  • Comment 80, posted at 05.05.15 18:35:20 by YamYam Reply
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  • @YamYam (Comment 80) : I’ve asked that question several times…no answers in sight!

  • Comment 81, posted at 05.05.15 18:36:55 by pastorshark Reply
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  • This interview just includes too many de ja vu moments! :sad:

  • Comment 82, posted at 05.05.15 18:38:00 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 12) : The first seasons that feature in my rugby memory are all of the seasons we spent in the B-section. It didn’t matter one little bit back then…I was a passionate Sharks supporter! It doesn’t matter one little bit now…and it wouldn’t matter if there was a B-section to get relegated to now and we got relegated to it…I remain a passionate Sharks supporter. Every week I watch them or follow them on some live scoring site with a flutter of hope in the tummy. I still wear every item of Sharks clothing that I have…and it’s a lot. I stand up for my team when other fans mock them. I try to remain objective when talking about them. All that doesn’t mean there aren’t also several things I am critical of and several questions I would love answers to. I will keep saying communication could be better. But nothing would ever, EVER make me stop supporting my team…E…V…E…R!!!

  • Comment 83, posted at 05.05.15 18:44:04 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 81) : It just seems all is not right. What young players of promise do we honestly have on the books? And if there is will we keep them with the current selection policy.

    I also remain loyal to the Sharks. But we can’t close our eyes and pretend all is well when there is obviously deeper underlining issues.

    Are the players being paid? Another question that pops into my mind.

  • Comment 84, posted at 05.05.15 18:55:25 by YamYam Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 83) : That’s nice to know because hopefully one day soon we are going to put together a run of three consecutive victories,and all the haters on here will be back telling us how great Gold and Venter really are.
    You know even last week there were three moments that could have changed that game.We had a perfectly good try disallowed,they were given a try where there was blatant crossing and interference,and Hoffman’s moment of utter incompetence off of a lineout steal.
    If all those moments had gone our way we are talking about a 21 point swing.Unfortunately they didn’t and we had to play serious catchup,something this side doesn’t know how to do.Panic set in,no on field leadership and we caught a hiding.
    But somewhere sometime that luck will change,and I honestly believe there are some seriously gifted rugby players in that team.
    So Pastor show a little faith

  • Comment 85, posted at 05.05.15 18:58:06 by The hound Reply
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  • Smit; I am a big fan of yours but your decision to get rid of arguably the most successful coach the Sharks have had (Plum) and appointing a selfish egotistical overrated Jake White was the wrong decision. What’s done is done but it’s really set the franchise back. Harsh I know but that’s my opinion.

  • Comment 86, posted at 05.05.15 20:42:25 by Shred Reply

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  • Here we go again about Plumtree… *sigh*

  • Comment 87, posted at 05.05.15 21:36:00 by Feather Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 73) :

    “Best player” off course is subjective, but if you asked the question: Which Bok fly-half in the professional era, scored the most points, the most tries, the most penalties, the most dropped-goals, the most wins against the All Blacks, the most points against the All Blacks and won the most silverware?

    You’re probably not going to like the answer.

  • Comment 88, posted at 05.05.15 23:27:22 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @fyndraai (Comment 88) : Can I have three guesses if the first two don’t count? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 89, posted at 06.05.15 00:17:35 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 89) :

    Hint: Most unpopular 10 on Sharksworld.

    It’s pretty shocking how short and interrupted the careers of your typical SA 10 has been.

  • Comment 90, posted at 06.05.15 00:53:08 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @fyndraai (Comment 90) : I know exactly who it is. You are absolutely correct about the length of careers and interruptions due to injury. Certainly since the professional era (1996) no SA 10 has had anywhere near an extended run, except for the most unpopular 10 on Sharksworld.

  • Comment 91, posted at 06.05.15 00:59:19 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @fyndraai (Comment 88) : Pfft, those criteria are all fine and well, but I see you deliberately exclude the most important one, namely number of games played in a Sharks jersey… :wink:

  • Comment 92, posted at 06.05.15 05:23:22 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Just to check, you know the criteria was best sharks flyhalf not best bokkie flyhalf. OK so who is the best SHARK flyhalf?

  • Comment 93, posted at 06.05.15 06:42:23 by coolfusion Reply

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  • The trip to the finals was the peak and we went backwards from there under plum.

    Its also worth noting that the later plum years and the. 1 under white we didnt exactly play attractive running rugby and maby fans were fed up with so called Jake ball.

    You know before we all get misty eyed about plum and jake.

  • Comment 94, posted at 06.05.15 07:56:53 by Dryden Reply

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  • So Cameron Wright off to Montpellier according to the Beeld.

  • Comment 95, posted at 06.05.15 08:06:49 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Comment 95) : If that is true it is to be expected – playing absolute over the hill journeymen ahead of our youngsters.

  • Comment 96, posted at 06.05.15 08:10:44 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Dryden (Comment 94) : How easy it is for people to forget, so let’s recap the Plum head coach era:

    2008 was an above average season, but we ultimately only made the semi’s away from home.

    2009 started like a house on fire, then it all came tumbling down.

    2010 was very much like 2015 is, back then we couldn’t buy a win for the first 6 or 7 games.

    2011 – the year Terblanche played at 13, in what can only be described as the most 1D Sharks backline ever to take a rugby field (even worse than the one we have this year).

    2012 Plum’s best year (and most attractive rugby year) – and we had Michalak as fh (after Plum had initially used him at 9 – FAIL, we also got hammered by the Canes that year, before things finally turned around).

    2013 was back to the Plum status quo, another average mid-table finish.

    Those are the glory years some folks so wish to revisit upon the Sharks :roll:

  • Comment 97, posted at 06.05.15 08:13:52 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 97) : Thanks for the research. How about giving us your sequence of “the glory years” and their coach. Im sure it will make interesting reading.

  • Comment 98, posted at 06.05.15 08:41:29 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • It’s easy to get too negative in a difficult time like this, but if we want to be brutally honest, there hasn’t been a steady upwards curve at our beloved Sharks since what, 2006/2007?

    We’ve gone from being regular serious title contenders (interspersed with clown seasons) to being pretty average. Even with the final and last years conference title (conference titles mean sfa btw), what is our median (is this the correct word) finishing position? 8th? 7th? 10th? Whatever it is, it’s not 1st 2nd or 3rd and that says enough.

  • Comment 99, posted at 06.05.15 08:48:03 by Dryden Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 98) : We’ve only just begun (that famous song ;-) )

    The Sharks have not experienced glory years during the pro era – we have had intermittent and sporadically semi-successful years, where we’ve reached SR semis and finals, but never have we had consecutive years of prolonged success (which would include at least one final).

    I do believe Smit has taken the one (major) step that was required before this franchise could be built into a truly pro-era (hopefully winning) rugby franchise.

    Right now it hurts, but a solid foundation is being laid as apposed to previous years where the roof was continually rebuilt upon a rickety structure.

  • Comment 100, posted at 06.05.15 08:53:21 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 97) : 2011, ended on 57 points, won 10 and reached the playoffs. That with the most sterile backline ever, hmmmthe coach must have been doing something to superhuman to get those results.

  • Comment 101, posted at 06.05.15 08:54:39 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 101) : Oh yeah…we finished 6th, by being a little less mediocre than the bulls (golf clap :roll: )

  • Comment 102, posted at 06.05.15 08:57:08 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 100) : Ok if you dont want to call them glory years then give us your most successful Sharks years and the coach/s that was involved with those teams.

  • Comment 103, posted at 06.05.15 08:59:43 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 102) : You can reach and win a final from 6th, you cant from 7th.

  • Comment 104, posted at 06.05.15 09:02:52 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 103) : We haven’t had any…

    I’ll give Plum credit as far as CC success is concerned, where we finally broke that embarrassing 12 year cup drought.

    But we need to be successful/competitive at age group CC, voda cup, senior CC and SR. We haven’t been that…well, ever.

    @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 104) : Yes we can win it from 6th…but never did.

  • Comment 105, posted at 06.05.15 09:08:11 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 100) : You see a solid foundation being laid, I see an incredibly solid foundation, that could have been built on as having been well and truly effed up and now being attempted to be patched up with bubble gum, that has been chewed by mostly friends and associates.

    I hope I am so very wrong with my view. I hate being negative about the Sharks.

  • Comment 106, posted at 06.05.15 09:10:28 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 105) : :shock: Wouldnt you call 2001 a successful season, especially after what happened to us in 2000. I was really hoping you would have picked at least that year. Who coached them again. :twisted:

  • Comment 107, posted at 06.05.15 09:14:50 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 106) : Two things that shows me a solid foundation is being laid:

    1. Ukzn rugby – since Smit’s arrival, the Sharks have finally decided to work with UKZN, and it is slowly paying dividends.

    2. According to Morné, the Sharks have established a very good recruitment structure.

    …best thing to do, is to see how our age group CC teams do this season, that will show us where the Sharks are headed.

  • Comment 108, posted at 06.05.15 09:16:16 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 107) : As I said, we never had consecutive years of success.

    One year up, next year down…one year down, next year up – sounds like the standard Reinach game :lol:

  • Comment 109, posted at 06.05.15 09:18:34 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @JarsonX (Comment 95) : Not confirmed yet, or is it.

    While having a nice hot shower yesterday Icame to the conclussion that I dont really mind all these foreign players playing in France if only because it weakens the French national team. True I miss their brand of rugby but I couldnt give a toss about them being a good team, especially in a world cup year.

  • Comment 110, posted at 06.05.15 09:20:36 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 97) : When Freddy arrived he was playing 9 unspectacularly in France
    ,Pat Lambie was our 10,it was only after Lambie was injured that Plum moved Freddy to 10.
    He was so good that at the end that season he returned to France and straight into the National team at 10.
    Find it hard to see the Plum FAIL in that.

  • Comment 111, posted at 06.05.15 10:02:12 by The hound Reply
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  • @ Salmonoid.
    I don’t care much for any team other than the Sharks. Sharks 1st, Boks 2nd. But right now the Sharkies are breaking my heart with all this bullshit going on.

  • Comment 112, posted at 06.05.15 10:14:43 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 111) : Plum played him at 9 – the Sharks were rubbish until Plum was FORCED to move Fred to 10.

    In other words (and I’ll type this slowly :roll: ), Plum decided to play Fred at 9 in place of McLeod – Plum knew what Fred could do at 10, as he played him there in 2008.

    Conclusion – Plum should never have played Fred at 9.

  • Comment 113, posted at 06.05.15 10:21:27 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @JarsonX (Comment 112) : I’ve always been a Boks first, Sharks second man which is why I’m dreading the imminent announcement of Spies instead of Whitely as part of the RWC squad. That’s going to further challenge my already frail rugby priorities :grin:

  • Comment 114, posted at 06.05.15 10:22:59 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 113) : And where did you want Lambie to play?

  • Comment 115, posted at 06.05.15 10:32:45 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 115) : I wanted Fred to play behind Lambie….McLeod to start at 9

  • Comment 116, posted at 06.05.15 10:38:15 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 116) : :cool:

  • Comment 117, posted at 06.05.15 10:50:31 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Many people on here persist with the argument that we don’t have youngsters ready to replace the older guys (who are already not performing) My question is this what happens in few weeks time when Heineke starts calling his boks up? We sit with a failed opportunity to get international exposure for the young guys that we have, lose the veterans anyways and have nothing ready for CC. I say Gold has no choice but to play young guys since all the vets are temp workers this year. JP Frans Marcell Bissie Janie Beast Reinach Pat Pieter Steph maybe even Mvovo. That almost the whole team. So what do we do pass on the CC say we’re not ready come back next year when we like our young players more

  • Comment 118, posted at 06.05.15 11:08:21 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 113) : Read this slowly,When Lambie was injured and we had no other cover Plum was the genius that moved his reserve 9 to 10.
    Michiak arrived here injured and very disinterested,he came on a medical holiday at the end of his career.He was very out of favour in Franceat the time.
    It was only when he was forced into his non preferred position that he found his mojo again.
    Now either you are saying Plum should have dropped Lambie who was just coming into his own as a Shark and a Bok,for an out of sorts 9,or you are just talking crap for the sake of it.

  • Comment 119, posted at 06.05.15 12:30:37 by The hound Reply
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