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Out goes a youngster (and in comes….?)


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 6 May 2015 at 09:29
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Beeld has this morning lifted the lid on a story that has been bubbling under in Sharks circles for some time; promising Sharks junior scrumhalf Cameron Wright appears to be on his way to join Jake White’s growing South African contingent at Montpellier in France.

Wright, who took advantage of a temporary dearth at scrumhalf to establish himself as a first-choice player in Currie Cup last year, hasn’t had so much as a sniff of Super Rugby action in 2015, despite being named in the initial squad. While the Sharks’ decision to persist with Conrad Hoffmann, rather than backing their own youth, can’t have helped, it must surely be the contracting of 32-year-old Michael Claassens from Toulon that was the last straw for the youngster.

Just this week, the Sharks again overlooked the player, opting to call up a third hooker to replace injured Cobus Reinach in the Super Rugby tour squad; whether this is as a result of his move, or just further justification for a decision that has already been made, we cannot say.

Meanwhile, according to a journalist close to the Cheetahs camp, it seems that the Sharks may have snapped up utility back Joe Pietersen for the Currie Cup. While the player’s ability to slot in at either flyhalf or fullback could come in useful, one has to question the wisdom of yet again bringing in an aged journeyman, rather than making a longer-term investment in players whose best years are still to come. Pietersen turns 31 later this month.



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  • Rob, Sw app dont like lollipop for a matter of interest.

  • Comment 1, posted at 06.05.15 09:31:25 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • :roll:

  • Comment 2, posted at 06.05.15 09:31:35 by vanmartin Reply
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  • This is getting pretty frustrating… Hoffman tries hard but his skill level just isn’t cutting it. And then rumours of Joe P joining for the Currie Cup?

  • Comment 3, posted at 06.05.15 09:32:22 by The Quirk Reply
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  • Do the Sharks have some sort of unwritten policy that they only recruit a player who’s either:
    A. Moving into the twilight of his career
    B. Constantly struggling with injury
    C. Played for a minimum of two other South Africa unions

    Any combination of the above is considered a bonus.

    I’ll find something to be positive about later on today. I promise!

  • Comment 4, posted at 06.05.15 09:35:28 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Well if the Joe story is true, then they will probably justify it along the lines of “wealth of experience” and “mentoring the young guys”… Grinds my gears! :evil:

  • Comment 5, posted at 06.05.15 09:37:56 by Another Nick Reply

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  • Seeing as though i went to school with him, I am super disappointed about this, BUT I can’t blame him I would have done the same.

    And there we go buying another OLD player, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE SHARKS????

  • Comment 6, posted at 06.05.15 09:47:27 by Seth101 Reply
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  • If this is the cost of getting Reinach to play like a proper scrummie (referring to the Clasasens acquisition), I’ll take it (my positive spin on this :grin: ).

    Hoffman however – I can’t understand….maybe he’s being strung along as they know he’s happy enough with playing second-fiddle to anyone in the starting team (some more positive spin). He has no aspirations in other words :twisted:

  • Comment 7, posted at 06.05.15 09:52:31 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • What a mess,even personnel stratergy is a mess,what a mess

  • Comment 8, posted at 06.05.15 09:52:56 by benji Reply
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  • Wright is a big loss. Count on Jake to be able to spot talent. I would have had him in the match 23 the entire season. The guy has all the qualities to become a very good scrumhalf. With regards to Joe, I have always rated him and should have been identified and recruited by our guys last year already. How the Cheetahs continue to recruit better quality than us amazes me. Van de Spy is another…sorry spelling.

  • Comment 9, posted at 06.05.15 09:53:03 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • I can’t actually take this shit anymore. John Smit should get the fuck out because he is single handedly destroying this union now.

  • Comment 10, posted at 06.05.15 09:57:55 by JarsonX Reply
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  • John used to keep the best players out of the team because he didn’t want to retire. Now he wants to turn Kingspark into a retirement village so he could have some friends to play chess with.

  • Comment 11, posted at 06.05.15 10:01:49 by JarsonX Reply
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  • I was really looking forward to a Lambie/Wright combo this year.

  • Comment 12, posted at 06.05.15 10:05:41 by durbsguy Reply

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  • Loosing Wright is a travesty,
    Whose mate is Hoffman,who brought him back here and who is behind his continued selection.
    I initially thought he was picked for his kicking game,he used to have quite a good tactical boot.
    But that’s behind a pack that was dominant.
    But he is too tall,too frail and too timid to play behind a retreating pack.
    Wright on the other hand is a strong hard boy with rugby brain way beyond his years.
    This sort of proves the lack of influence that Brad has in the current setup.
    Unless I am mistaken Wright was one of his Hilton boys.

  • Comment 13, posted at 06.05.15 10:13:37 by The hound Reply
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  • Cant blame Wright for leaving…low down in pecking order and no shot at Boks…so why not earn sum cash. Joe Pieterson is an interesting one..Lambie will probably be with the Boks..so that leaves us who exactly for CC? Zeilinga has been woeful..Cronje they dont fully trust. So Its only Inny Radebe left. Same with FB- outside of SP Marais- who else? So yes maybe not a long term investment but the Sharks need to get results now no matter what…a failed CC will result in very few good players sticking around. Winning games breeds success…just ask the Lions

  • Comment 14, posted at 06.05.15 10:20:14 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @durbsguy (Comment 12) : Bummer losing Wright but there is lots of competition at the Sharks…Reinach, Hoffman, Ungerer, Venter, Classens. Maybe we should expect one or two more youngsters to relocate somewhere else before too long.

    As for Joe P, I presume he will be used as a utility back but mostly as a full back. I dont have a probelm with this signing. I dont know of a youngster that is so glaringly good whose position he is threatening. I think he has been very good for the Cheetahs so far this year, in fact better than he was for the Stormers. He would be a standout player on current form in our current squad.

  • Comment 15, posted at 06.05.15 10:21:32 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • :shock:

    :grin:

    :sad:

    :oops:

    :evil:

  • Comment 16, posted at 06.05.15 10:24:47 by Dryden Reply

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  • I like Petersen. He’s a good player, but I’d hate for a young player to miss out because of him. Then again we haven’t needed a player of his quality to keep young players from advancing at the Sharks. We’ll play any more experienced ahead of potential. So if he’s at least going to add value to the team, I’m not going to complain.

  • Comment 17, posted at 06.05.15 10:25:47 by Letgo Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 13) : You are correct re Brad and Wright at Hilton. A lot of Sharks combos puzzle me…we must be missing something at the practices surely

  • Comment 18, posted at 06.05.15 10:26:46 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 1) : hmm, I’ve been on 5.0 for ages and it seems fine. Now on 5.1 and still no issues on either of my devices.

    Can you tell me exactly what you’re seeing?

  • Comment 19, posted at 06.05.15 10:31:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 17) : At the moment there are no young players he would be keeping out the team…

  • Comment 20, posted at 06.05.15 10:37:07 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 13) : I know that both Cam and and Calvin Smith (No Idea what happened to him) were approached by Jake when they were still at school. Jake did a few weeks of coaching at Hilton and took a liking to those two as well as Chris de Beer, It was Jake who told Chris to move to hooker from loose forwards to succeed after school. So this doesn’t really surprise me.

  • Comment 21, posted at 06.05.15 10:39:34 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Balls. So we buy another old ballie and lose another young player. It’s insane.

  • Comment 22, posted at 06.05.15 11:02:10 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • Why the hell would we waste money on Joe?? Full back is covered with SP and Odwa, for FH we have Fred and bloody Cronje. Pretty sure that Fred will be buggering off as well is this happens. I know he’s struggling at the moment, but we all know he’s class. It’s bloody ridiculous.

    Start fred, fire lionel and bring Innocent into the game from the bench. Then we have two young guys fighting for the starting jersey giving it their all. Slotting Joe into the frame, one of them will miss out. And are you telling me that there isn’t another up and coming FB anywhere at the sharks?

  • Comment 23, posted at 06.05.15 11:06:27 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 17) : @SheldonK (Comment 20) : @Dragnipur (Comment 23) : At flyhalf we currently have Fred, Lionel and very likely Inny for the CC. At fullback we have SP, Odwa and perhaps even Isaacs. In addition to this we’ve also recruited Garth April who also covers both positions lest we forget. Joe might be good but it still makes little sense to me unless a few more players are exiting after Super Rugby.

  • Comment 24, posted at 06.05.15 11:13:08 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Well F*cking Done Sharks Management on chasing more Young talent away!! I am sure NOBODY at the Sharks Management team have a Bloody clue WTF they are doing!!! #IDIOTS

    P.S. Yes saying that felt damn good and I am now -once again- in control of my emotions lol :mrgreen:

  • Comment 25, posted at 06.05.15 11:13:47 by RedSharkUtd82 Reply

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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 22) : How many scrummies do we have?
    How many good fullbacks / utility backs do we have?

  • Comment 26, posted at 06.05.15 11:14:15 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 23) : Actually with that I have to disagree, SP and Odwa are useless and I wish they never touched the Sharks jersey ever again, respect to Odwa for what he used to be, but he is not that anymore.

    However why bring in a 31 year old for cover? Why are South African Rugby teams so afraid to spend money, do like the northern hemisphere and BUY A GOOD YOUNG PLAYER.

  • Comment 27, posted at 06.05.15 11:15:02 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Should I start to question my allegiance to this union? How did we go from losing Jesse Kriel, to Sp Marais, and now Joe P? :sad:

  • Comment 28, posted at 06.05.15 11:16:56 by Ryan Ferreira Reply

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  • @Seth101 (Comment 27) : I meant we have them on the books, and Odwa is damn solid at fullback. We are paying them already, why bring in more cover? And we bought that April dude who is at least 23 I think. Joe is surplus to requirements.

  • Comment 29, posted at 06.05.15 11:20:59 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • I believe that, as Sharks supporters, we’re falling into an unhealthy habit of complaining for the sake of complaining.

  • Comment 30, posted at 06.05.15 11:21:23 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Stop busting your heads about playing Joe P in only one position. He will be very good cover for the whole backline barring scrumhalf.

  • Comment 31, posted at 06.05.15 11:22:52 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • As much as I didn’t like the guy, Rudi Strauli is sorely missed at the tank.
    Who the fuck is our talent scout these days.

    Scraping the fucking barrel the Sharks are.

  • Comment 32, posted at 06.05.15 11:25:33 by John Galt Reply

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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 29) : Odwa has scared the hell out of me at fullback this year. I didnt want to say it but its the truth.

  • Comment 33, posted at 06.05.15 11:26:27 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • I don’t even know what to say anymore …something has to change!!

  • Comment 34, posted at 06.05.15 11:28:55 by Sharkfinn Reply

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  • @John Galt (Comment 32) : Preach it. Apparently our recruitment is in good hands.

  • Comment 35, posted at 06.05.15 11:29:31 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 27) : you forget that the bulls buy every other youngster in this country

  • Comment 36, posted at 06.05.15 11:29:32 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 30) : I seriously wonder sometimes. We have a dearth of fullbacks and utility backs, sign one who is in good form and get lambasted for that. On the other hand we have an oversupply of scrummies whom we cant hope to keep all happy and we whinge about that. Yes Wright is good but at the moment he is really only on the fringes.

  • Comment 37, posted at 06.05.15 11:35:12 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 36) : And it is working for them…..

    @Dragnipur (Comment 29) : Odwa personally conceded two tries this weekend….

  • Comment 38, posted at 06.05.15 11:35:43 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Joe Pietersen will be 31 next year, Odwa 35.

  • Comment 39, posted at 06.05.15 11:37:30 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 38) : Still the problem is how are the Sharks or the Lions expected to contract and keep young players if the bulls keeps on poaching

  • Comment 40, posted at 06.05.15 11:40:35 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 39) : The difference is Odwa has been a Shark since forever. The dude is probably in his last season with the Sharks, so that’s why I’ll support him.

  • Comment 41, posted at 06.05.15 11:43:22 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 40) : So make them better offers? This is a business and the Sharks need to accept that.

  • Comment 42, posted at 06.05.15 11:45:12 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 33) : Same here! :shock:

  • Comment 43, posted at 06.05.15 11:45:50 by Another Nick Reply

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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 41) : He was a great player, and I will always appreciate his service to the Sharks, but it is a season to late.

  • Comment 44, posted at 06.05.15 11:46:14 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 19) : it works hundreds except when a new article gets forwarded to my phone. (Same issue on tab and second lollipop phone with same issue) when I click to open it it bombs out, asks me to report the problem or close it. reported it a few times, don’t know if you actually get the reports?
    I then have to open the app normally to view new stuff.

    Worked perfect on my new phone until it upgraded to lollipop so same issue all three devices when lollipop came.

  • Comment 45, posted at 06.05.15 11:46:37 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 41) : I cant think of a better person that deserves our support but the reality is that age has been catching up to him for a while now. It also doesnt help that we are playing him in a position that is, in essence new to him.

  • Comment 46, posted at 06.05.15 11:49:27 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • I’m over this circus that the Sharks have become. I withdraw all money from now and I will urge all my friends to do the same. Shit just goes from bad to worse :roll:

  • Comment 47, posted at 06.05.15 11:53:32 by Mephisto_Shark Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 46) : Just out of interest, do you know how old was Stef Terblanche when he played his last season for us? Also about 35?

  • Comment 48, posted at 06.05.15 11:54:01 by Another Nick Reply

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  • Best players are built not bought.

  • Comment 49, posted at 06.05.15 11:55:33 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 49) : American football, Baseball, Basketball, European Football and Rugby ALLLLLL disagree with that statement sorry.

  • Comment 50, posted at 06.05.15 12:00:29 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Another Nick (Comment 48) : Not sure but I think it was 37/38.

  • Comment 51, posted at 06.05.15 12:02:15 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 45) : ok thanks – I think I see them now.

    What device(s) are you using, please? Just so I can match you up to the crash reports.

  • Comment 52, posted at 06.05.15 12:03:52 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Another Nick (Comment 48) : ja but jeez he was one hell of a physical specimen! still had the strength and speed to cover 13 with aplomb!

    Damn, did he not add the experience, skill, stability and drive we are expecting JPP to bring to our backline? Terblanche will always be a legend. Same value Percy brought so I have no issue with Joe P – his kicking at goal is also needed with Fred and Cronje being dismal so far.

    Van Tonder is out for a while and Isaacs need some age group time to develop – is he also not in the Namib squad?

    Loosing Cam is sad but we can live with that if Ungerer and Venter gets developed by Claasens – Zoolander needs to go unfortunately. I was actually impressed with the games Claasens played for Toulon – solid clearing and kicking much better than our current crop

  • Comment 53, posted at 06.05.15 12:05:09 by Kabouter Reply

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  • @Mephisto_Shark (Comment 47) : Are you the blogger that sponsored the Sharks at some stage?

    I presume you are a big money player with the union, in which case I also presume that you have been airing your grievances directly with the big boys there. I would be interested in how willing they were to listen and what their attitude was when you raised these concerns. Were they at least willing to listen?

  • Comment 54, posted at 06.05.15 12:06:05 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 51) : :shock: Sheesh.. didn’t realise he was THAT old. Shows how fit he was to still be able to perform on the level he did.
    @Kabouter (Comment 53) : Absolutely! Terblanche will definitely be remembered as one of the all time greats, no doubt. I was just trying to put age into perspective when playing, but I guess using Stefan as an example is not really helping ;-)

  • Comment 55, posted at 06.05.15 12:13:20 by Another Nick Reply

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  • App works fine on the lolli for me.

  • Comment 56, posted at 06.05.15 12:16:18 by Dryden Reply

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  • How does rugby Disagree? Guys like Habana built by the bulls played best for them. Remember built by doesn’t mean the same as “originates from” I would say Bismarck is a built by the sharks guy even if he isn’t an originates from. Buying a mercenary means you buy him for what he is now and no guarantees he will do the same for you as he did for the team that grew him. Growing a guy means you get his best or his golden Era, depending of course on his talent and how well you grew him.

  • Comment 57, posted at 06.05.15 12:23:26 by coolfusion Reply

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  • If true, it will be a blow to the Cheetahs, as Joe has been influential. His attacking from FB has been sublime, and he has been very good at controlling matches for the Cheetahs.
    Elgar watts is almost ready to play, whilst Willie du Plessis hasn’t really impressed.
    Will be interesting to see if the pace of CC rugby will be too much for the Shimlas pivot. He is a big lad, and was pretty useful in the VC.

  • Comment 58, posted at 06.05.15 12:23:35 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 57) : But for you to be built at another union you have to be bought…. you’re contradicting yourself.

  • Comment 59, posted at 06.05.15 12:25:48 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 24) : If the Sharks go into the CC with Zeilinga as their 10 then we can forget bout playing in the Semi finals- he has been horrid since last years CC. The Union has no faith in Cronje so we cant judge him as he has barely played 80min. Sp Marias only real option at 15- If Isaacs was an option he would have been included on the bench at least by now when SP injured. Odwa needs to be told thank but no thanks- he has lost all pace and has been found wanting numerous times. On the odd occassion he ill beat a prop and get into space but very rarely. Joe Pieterson could do the same job Fred Michalak did- both creative players but not the best on defense. At the moment our 10 is playing next to our fb so we have zero attacking threat. Inny Radebe is def a bench option- however id hate to see some of the bigger forwards up north running at him…Mark Richards take 2

  • Comment 60, posted at 06.05.15 12:28:50 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 58) : Pietersen has been damn good for the Cheetahs this year. I wish we could get our hands on him now already.

  • Comment 61, posted at 06.05.15 12:32:05 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Wright has been the one young Sharks scrumhalf who got me to sit up and notice. He can actually pass from the base without having to take three steps towards the flyhalf. Was a bit rough around the edges in the CC, but I think he will still progress into a very good player. Add the fact that he can play 10. I am really sad to see him go.

    Pietersen on the other hand has been very good for the Cheetahs, and not that old actually.

  • Comment 62, posted at 06.05.15 12:39:54 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 61) : Agree totally,playing best rugby of his career at the moment,excellent fullback and back up 10 to Pat.

  • Comment 63, posted at 06.05.15 12:41:23 by The hound Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 62) : For some reason I thought he was under 30 – did not realize he is 31 already.

  • Comment 64, posted at 06.05.15 12:42:31 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 54) :

    So what you’re saying then is that it’s ok for the union to bleed fans and money? A few thousand a year may seem like a drop in the ocean for you but X that by a few and then a few more and a few more and it will add up. You obviously loved the heydeys when we couldn’t even get more than 10000 spectators in the stadium.

  • Comment 65, posted at 06.05.15 12:44:33 by Mephisto_Shark Reply

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  • This Cameron Wright thing is devastating news I was so looking forward to seeing him devlop into a truly great scrumhalf for the Sharks.

    Somebody needs a fat slap! Soon we are going to lose ANYBODY WHO IS A GOOD PLAYER. JOHN SMIT IS SLEEPING WHEN HE’S NOT CYCLING!!!! HE MUST TAKE A WALK!

  • Comment 66, posted at 06.05.15 12:46:56 by [email protected] Reply

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  • I am just so disheartened by whats going on at the Sharks at the moment, which is playing itself out in the results on the field.

    If find it increasingly difficult to justify why I invest 9time and money) in supporting the franchise.

    More and more I’m becoming less of a Sharks supporter and more of a rugby supporter.

  • Comment 67, posted at 06.05.15 12:49:05 by stevovo Reply
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  • U mm no how is it a contradict ion. They were bought as youngsters not as mercenaries or journeymen. Which is the context of the discussion. No one is saying source only from the sharks pool, that makes no sense, else why would I even mention bissie? what I am saying is however you get the youngster after this he will be built by the union into something. All players are bought at some stage even at the beginning of their career.
    And how does Rugby Disagree with that?

  • Comment 68, posted at 06.05.15 12:57:42 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 37) : I hear you. My view is that we should have seen this guy’s potential and invested in him ahead of all the other reserve 9′s. I don’t blame him for leaving if he is going to be seen as the fifth best option.

  • Comment 69, posted at 06.05.15 12:59:50 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @Mephisto_Shark (Comment 65) : Why so defensive. I asked you genuine questions based on your statement.

    As for loving the Sharks, yes you are right, I have loved them from their Natal days when there were sometimes less than 10 000 in the much, smaller than now, stadium.

  • Comment 70, posted at 06.05.15 13:02:53 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Joe Pietersen is a good buy….finish and klaar. Now let’s also get Sergel. Again, very disappointed that the Cheetahs are far better than us in identifying and recruiting talented guys.

  • Comment 71, posted at 06.05.15 13:04:34 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 52) : Nexus 7 (2012), used to have Motorola Moto G (GPE), currently using Sony Xperia Z3 Compact.

  • Comment 72, posted at 06.05.15 13:06:03 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @stevovo (Comment 67) : OH boo hoo hoo.
    Where was it ever written that the team had a responsibility to win for you.
    When you sign on as a fan,nobody says that you have to stay through thick and thin.
    A true supporter is the one who is there when all the others have gone.
    Remember that movie Wild Thing with Charlie Sheen as a baseball pitcher,the team was so kak that they only had five fans,who would sit in the stadium and try and do a Mexican wave.
    When we start getting there I might think of leaving,until then I still can’t think of anything better to do on a Saturday afternoon in Durban.

  • Comment 73, posted at 06.05.15 13:06:03 by The hound Reply
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  • Problem is that these mercenaries are just a stopgap. Sharks are still not the kind of organisation that builds for the future. We can never sleep easy knowing we have 3 Willie Albers es in the making and that they will be used. Also we are fast gaining a rep as a stepping stone academy and you should leave as soon as another union shows the least bit interest else you career goes into pause mode. Ask Redelinghuis, Herbst, Whiteley, combrinck, du preez, Kockott, kriel..and on and on the sad sad list goes.

  • Comment 74, posted at 06.05.15 13:10:55 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Look guys and girls…right now we have just bought some flyhalf who sort of looked could in the CLUB tournament (what’s it called? The community cup?) because our depth at flyhalf is NON-EXISTENT! On that basis, how can recruiting Joe be a bad thing? I hope he doesn’t keep a fit again Inny or a form again Fred out…but I’m sure as hell glad that when those guys are out we don’t have to pick the Community Cup dude we imported. Of course, it does concern me that our pipeline hasn’t produced another flyhalf option…

  • Comment 75, posted at 06.05.15 13:27:44 by pastorshark Reply
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  • The pipeline produced Du preez but we fckd it up so he left it produced combrinck ditto…it’s not like we can harvest a pearl from each batch each year, hence it is critical we look after and use the ones we do get. This acquisition the stormers another kneejerk mistake by the clown Co. Best playersplayers are built but we don’t build anymore…

  • Comment 76, posted at 06.05.15 13:49:07 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Kockett opened the door,now a seriously good youngster can get paid huge money and still have a chance to play for his adoppted country,the age of pro rugby is here

  • Comment 77, posted at 06.05.15 13:52:48 by benji Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 77) : Friend Rob Lowe and Ray Mordt put that era in place when they left the Boks to play rugby league in the U.K for money,long before Union went pro.
    Kockert was way ,way down the line,hell even Brad Barritt beat him to the gun.

  • Comment 78, posted at 06.05.15 14:06:56 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 78) : yes but not the big money in France mate

  • Comment 79, posted at 06.05.15 14:13:00 by benji Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 79) :John Smit did that years ago,Sean Sowerby before him.

  • Comment 80, posted at 06.05.15 14:35:21 by The hound Reply
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  • I’m with Salmo on this one. If Joe P can keep SP out of the team then I’m all for it! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 81, posted at 06.05.15 16:09:52 by Ben Reply
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  • Jaques Potgieter signed…boom guess we do have money haha

  • Comment 82, posted at 06.05.15 16:13:03 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 70) :

    I do apologize for being snappy. It’s just one of those periods of frustration with the team I’ve been a supporter of for so many years and week in week out, nothing long term is being done. Man not even one of my exes caused these levels of moody, lol :lol:

  • Comment 83, posted at 06.05.15 17:03:26 by Mephisto_Shark Reply

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  • No this sucks…
    Wright is a great player! and still young……. FML

    Part of the support structure below John Smit is recruitment. It needs to be solid for John to succeed, and with losses like this and gains like Joe Pietersen and Jacques Potgieter (29 , 31) there seem to be an “old / out of date” approach to recruitment

  • Comment 84, posted at 06.05.15 17:04:42 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • You Sharks guys should welcome Joe… A very solid player… IMO… and a good utility stop-gap signing … Had a good understanding with Gio… and can play exciting rugby.., In the right environment he could do very very well for the Sharks…
    To put our teams into perspective… many supporters in Cape Town would welcome Joe back with open arms…

    BTW… commiserations to all the old Sharks buds… We WP supporters do truly understand and feel your pain…
    As bad as it gets for you guys.. Just remember It could be worse… you could be Stormers fans…!

    Chins up guys… the wheel turns.. and the Sharks will be back… Only question is… will the Stormers ever even get there?

  • Comment 85, posted at 06.05.15 19:21:55 by ufo Reply

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  • I surely hopes it’s for the Currie cup and next years Super rugby. would make no sense to sing him for only the Currie cup?!?!

  • Comment 86, posted at 07.05.15 15:17:06 by JD Reply
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