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Smit’s open letter to the fans


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :In the news, Sharks, Super Rugby on 6 May 2015 at 12:48
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The following rather lengthy note from John Smit has appeared on the Sharks’ official Facebook page.

So I got this sent to me by some mates and must admit it got me thinking, laughing at first but then thinking!!! Which is why I decided to write a note to all of you. There is so much that has been done, not done, said and not said, and along the way, the fans of a team like The Sharks justifiably feel heartbroken, hurt and in desperate need for answers.
I could ramble off a list of excuses that would read like a horror story for any management team, but that is not what this letter is about. We understand how important this team is to so many, as it is to us, and frankly I think my staff are in desperate need of counselling after the last four results as they hurt like I’ve never seen, some of them having worked here for over 20 years. We also understand that in the current environment we all find ourselves, with inflated fuel costs, a currency under siege and load-shedding to mention just a few items, our Sharks team become the custodians of hope come the weekend.

They represent our inner warrior and deep instinct to see good conquer evil! And when they do, the beer tastes better and Monday mornings become a proud moment to walk in with shoulders back and revel in the success of our team. Sadly, we have not had enough of this and we are working tirelessly as administrators, management and players to rectify the current form of our team. Never in a million years is it what we regard as satisfactory and I say it openly knowing full well our boys feel exactly the same way. We will stop at nothing to become the best again and can assure you that tons of work and hours have gone into planning the future of this great brand/team.
I’ve now been here almost 2 years, having started in July of 2013 and there has been significant change implemented during that time, most of it planned but the odd curve ball that forced us to find an alternative route while never deterring from the course chosen. Have there been mistakes made? Absolutely, but with every lesson, the firm resolution that the lessons learnt or being learnt will make us stronger going forward.

Everyone wants to know how we have gone from a conference topping team to a team leaking tries and in desperate need of a win; how do seasoned internationals drop balls and why does it seem very difficult to work out what the team strategy is? It’s impossible to dissect each one of the questions out there but having been a player that sadly played a part in some pretty spectacularly bad seasons in 2000 and 2006, I can tell you that the best made plans with the best players can often amount to nothing when a team loses its confidence. Our job is to lead the players in a way that allows them to regain this confidence even though the opposition we play and still have to play don’t allow for too much room to do so. We have what we believe to be a strong succession plan of players coming through and players chosen to join us in the near future, plus, for the first time in a while, we finally have the ability to make these changes and acquisitions with our dismal financial past being rectified and the proper business structures and governance being implemented over the last two years.

I completely understand the barrage against myself and other senior people within the organisation and it is our responsibility to deal with all of this while keeping a steady hand on the wheel to ensure long term success and I can honestly tell you that any decision I have taken or will take is to benefit this organisation. Not all of them have been spot on but we have made huge progress in this business in two years with a very dedicated team behind the team. Critically, I have learnt and continue to learn from both our successes and failures. Having addressed the commercial issues, full focus has been given to the coaching and player structures. We want the Sharks to be competitive at Under 19 and Under 21 levels. To this end, we needed to retain our home grown talent. You would have noticed the improved relationship between The Sharks and our schools that has resulted in them playing curtain-raisers at the Stadium. In time we will be rolling out our strategic plans around our procurement initiatives and our vision on creating a young pipeline of talent that will secure our future for years to come. Adversity is often the catalyst for creative thinking and I believe we have learnt a considerable amount over this period, which will stand us in good stead in the years to come.

It has been a rollercoaster ride so far both on the field where we find ourselves currently placed in Super Rugby, to us having won a Currie Cup in 2013, topped an SA conference for the first time in 2014, picked the first ever player of colour to captain a Currie Cup side and contributed more than 10 players a season on average to the Bok cause.
Off the field has also been an amazing journey, from acquiring new sponsors and increasing our sponsorship revenue by 67% from 2013 to 2015. We have also aligned for the first time in decades with our own city and of course the much needed R22million rand swing in 2014 to rectify our financial issues of 2013. All of this is of no immediate consequence if we don’t have a team performing on the field, but we will reap rewards later now that we have the financial strength to ADD to our squad, players who are hungry to don The Sharks jersey.

This campaign is not working out as we had hoped and the many reasons will be debated at length; our jobs will be to make sure we rectify the problems and at no stage will we be the leadership that hangs individuals out to dry. We will take the heat, listen to your constructive concerns and implement whatever change needed to put us back on track so that we can all enjoy the only thing that matters to us, a team willing to fight for us with an ethic that makes us proud to be Sharks. We recognise that your patience has been tested but appreciate your concern and promise you we will do whatever is needed to make you proud again. The team deserve it, The Sharks culture demands it, but mostly we want it for YOU, our proud supporters.

John Smit



170 Comments

  • Well said John! I’ll always support the Sharks, hell I keep picking them by 15 on superbru each week. It was the first time that I got the ‘Warning: this will be a massive upset’ message, and that hurt. Alot.

    I’m damn glad that they got the behind the scenes financial stuff sorted out and that they are focusing on the youth. This will really help during the long term. I guess we have to bite the bullet this season, keep hoping for some improvement in play and hope all the hard work pays off!

    Sharks Forever!

  • Comment 1, posted at 06.05.15 12:59:46 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • Good to eventually hear from Smit. Let’s hope they stick to supporting the youth because they are sure as hell not doing that now.

  • Comment 2, posted at 06.05.15 13:01:18 by Pokkel Reply
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  • That is how a leader should address a bad situation, at least the talk side of it, now let us see the action side.

  • Comment 3, posted at 06.05.15 13:01:36 by Seth101 Reply
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  • “we have the financial strength to ADD to our squad”
    Seriously? – I just think of what happened today with this statement. Wright leaves, Joe coming to dbn….
    This letter reads more like “Fools Gold” to me.

  • Comment 4, posted at 06.05.15 13:04:43 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • Smitty dammed if you do,dammed if you don’t,
    At least you put your colours up the mast.
    I for one am pleased with your statement of commitment,would hate to see another stuffed blazer in your job.

  • Comment 5, posted at 06.05.15 13:11:42 by The hound Reply
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  • So this years Super rugby is a disaster and embarrassment. Barring a miracle i cant see us making CC semis. So now if the u19s and u21s are a dismal as they were last year then what??

  • Comment 6, posted at 06.05.15 13:12:32 by SheldonK Reply

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  • He should have done the talking from the start.

  • Comment 7, posted at 06.05.15 13:14:00 by Southern_Shark Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 6) : Well he said all the right things. Pro Rugby is a business, so if the financial side is in shambles, the rest will fall apart. It might be that we are still feeling the effects of the mess Smit walked into. If they sorted the money troubles, then the rest of the problems can be fixed. Lets hope the young guys performs well!

  • Comment 8, posted at 06.05.15 13:15:16 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • Then why do you keep on playing and recruiting older players while the younger players leave one after the other. Some of your actions contradict your words.
    Why does a player who underperforms week after week still make the match day 22? Because you don’t want to admit that you have made more mistakes than you have gotten right.

  • Comment 9, posted at 06.05.15 13:15:58 by JarsonX Reply
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  • Communication at last…
    Thanks John. We appreciate the sentiments and the information and we really do hope you succeed. Of course it will take more than just these words…but, then, you already know that.
    Time will tell…
    In the meantime we will still be there supporting the Sharks!

  • Comment 10, posted at 06.05.15 13:17:26 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 8) : Lets be honest- the PR dept wrote this not Smit. Lets not kid ourselves. Yes Smit has done some good but he also created a lot of financial stress for himself with paying out Plum, then buying and finally paying off White. Then having a thousand coaches for Super rugby…all those are his decisions. Yes funds got ‘misdirected’ before he arrived which he cant be blamed for but he has still caused himself quite a bit of financial stress.He makes no mention of the poor player discipline this year…no mention of how the top side will put things right in CC.

  • Comment 11, posted at 06.05.15 13:22:16 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 11) : Do you know the extent of the financial mismanagement, were legal steps taken?

  • Comment 12, posted at 06.05.15 13:24:31 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • The caption on the photo should read “CAN YOU SEE WHERE THE LIONS ARE IN THE LEAGUE”

  • Comment 13, posted at 06.05.15 13:25:35 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Remains to be seen. Anyway, thanks for the letter John. Much appreciated.

  • Comment 14, posted at 06.05.15 13:27:13 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • Actions speak louder than words

    Good start tough but needs to go to more than fbook

  • Comment 15, posted at 06.05.15 13:27:15 by Kabouter Reply

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  • Well this press release was necessary. Be sure Sharks fans are going to be keeping an eye on the context and expect to see the implementation thereof.

  • Comment 16, posted at 06.05.15 13:27:26 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • What a mess,amateurs night.what a PR mess.what a mess

  • Comment 17, posted at 06.05.15 13:28:58 by benji Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 12) : It was very much kept in house so not much info leaked. I know that there were scapegoats that were let go and guys higher up “opted to move on”…but the exact details im not sure. All i know is the one year they struggled to pay the club grants and players salaries- they were counting on the proceeds from the CC semi and final etc

  • Comment 18, posted at 06.05.15 13:32:44 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Good to hear from you John. Hope a long hard look is taken at the current Sharks culture.

  • Comment 19, posted at 06.05.15 13:37:40 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Well thinking about it, it now makes sense why we have so many journeyman in the team. There was no money to recruit the Etzebeth and Fouries, only these cheap journeyman. Our youth structures has always been in shambles, that might be why the youth was never really trusted to make the step up. Let’s hope that with the finances now sorted out, we will be able to offer young rugby players the same type of contracts that the Bulls do. And without competitive u19 and u21 sides, our Vodacom Cup team will continue being the laughing stock of that competition.

  • Comment 20, posted at 06.05.15 13:41:33 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @benji (Comment 17) : actualy more to the point,what drivel and what an insult,this is not nursery school

  • Comment 21, posted at 06.05.15 13:44:49 by benji Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 18) : Thanks, that sounds like a pretty bad situation they were in.

  • Comment 22, posted at 06.05.15 13:44:59 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 21) : So actually how do you think he should have handled the situation,from your obvious extensive P.R back ground.
    I thought the man came across as humble, sincere and generally shouldered the blame.

  • Comment 23, posted at 06.05.15 14:00:31 by The hound Reply
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  • Everyone shouted they wanted answers and they wanted it from John directly. You get what you asked and some people still stomping their feet.

    He has put his neck on the line now give him a chance to prove himself.

    We speak about bulls supporters but sometimes I think we are the worst in world of rugby.

  • Comment 24, posted at 06.05.15 14:02:48 by YamYam Reply
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  • I think (hoped) we’ve moved beyond the juvenile name calling. I for one will be making more positive comments from now on…well for awhile anyway ;)

  • Comment 25, posted at 06.05.15 14:12:56 by Southern_Shark Reply
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  • Not listening to any more words or sincere and humble apologies from the sharks management. The cheek of expecting anything from me the supporter. How about you start showing a little more than words and then beg for our support again? I WISH the sharks would lose some major sponsors, because then it becomes a money thing and then the fancy footwork and words will dissappear. Sometimes you need to burn the house down…as the saying goes.

  • Comment 26, posted at 06.05.15 14:14:56 by coolfusion Reply

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  • John Smit says:

    “We will take the heat, listen to your constructive concerns and implement whatever change needed to put us back on track ”

    John Smit does:

    blocks everyone who is critical of him on Twitter, including me.

    Hypocrisy, they name is John Smit.

  • Comment 27, posted at 06.05.15 14:17:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 26) : thank you

  • Comment 28, posted at 06.05.15 14:17:53 by benji Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) : Interesting

  • Comment 29, posted at 06.05.15 14:20:06 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • I would like to know what answers he gave in this letter. To me this letter gives no answers no solutions just stating the obvious, oh and regurgitating their financial success whoopee! Too bad your accountants can’t play scrumhalf or flyhalf. There is no substance in this letter. How about a big fan poll about what needs to change and then actually implementing the most popular requests even if just to show good faith? Or just carry on with the empty words.

  • Comment 30, posted at 06.05.15 14:22:45 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) : Maybe you were not constructive in your tweets…. Lol

  • Comment 31, posted at 06.05.15 14:25:51 by YamYam Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 26) : Once again I ask you what would you have done,seriously dude you are getting hysterical.

  • Comment 32, posted at 06.05.15 14:26:14 by The hound Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) : And you reserve the rights to censor anyone here whose views are contrary to yours,maybe you should take the rugby :cool: :cool: post out of your eye.

  • Comment 33, posted at 06.05.15 14:28:44 by The hound Reply
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  • @YamYam (Comment 24) : Some of us…

  • Comment 34, posted at 06.05.15 14:30:06 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Well seems John gives some answers and still gets ripped to shreds. What were you expecting, him to start dumping on the players and coaches?

  • Comment 35, posted at 06.05.15 14:33:21 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • Talk is easy, but actions and results will count.

    My worry is that the coaching / management team has no clue how to dig the team out of this hole. I am 100% sure they want to get out of the hole, but the million dollar question is “Do they have any idea where to start?”

  • Comment 36, posted at 06.05.15 14:35:18 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 23) : if I were JS and had respect for the Sharks I would step down as clearly I am not hacking it as CEO and let a more competent person come fix ,but this is just history repwating itself with JS

  • Comment 37, posted at 06.05.15 14:35:28 by benji Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 30) : Huh? You want people who do not know exactly what is going on and dont’t have all the information to vote on what should be done to improve the situation?! That doesn’t sound very sensible to me…

  • Comment 38, posted at 06.05.15 14:37:06 by pastorshark Reply
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  • What would I have done? How about a word to the coach about about his selections, how about honoring the young player initiatives, declining fruitless spend, counter offering Cameron , getting rid of the passengers, recalling cooper sending the required cover, setting up performance management contracts with coaching staff with non performance penalties including dismissal. Being transparent about player movement. Actually setting up a platform for discussion before saying you will and then responding to the people ….just off the top of my head…that’s what I would have done..note done…not said….

  • Comment 39, posted at 06.05.15 14:38:04 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @benji (Comment 37) : Are you putting yourself up for the job or do you have anyone in mind.You seem to have a huge handle on what is required and what is not being done.

  • Comment 40, posted at 06.05.15 14:38:10 by The hound Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 34) : True some ;)

  • Comment 41, posted at 06.05.15 14:39:39 by YamYam Reply
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  • Oh boy…

  • Comment 42, posted at 06.05.15 14:41:10 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) : You shouldnt have asked him what he is doing this weekend.

  • Comment 43, posted at 06.05.15 14:41:58 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 43) : I was remarkably restrained and haven’t even mentioned that point

  • Comment 44, posted at 06.05.15 14:42:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) : Wow, well that throws this whole open letter down the toilet in my eyes, that is just ridiculous.

  • Comment 45, posted at 06.05.15 14:43:11 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 42) : Amen!

  • Comment 46, posted at 06.05.15 14:46:04 by Moon Moon Reply

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  • In the absence of proof to the contrary I and the rest of the critics have as much a handle on things as the current management has…or have they set forth a clear cut plan and strategy of turnaround. …thats right they haven’t. ..maybe if they did show control did show direction…yeah rest of us could shut up and trust them. But it seems it only takes a few appeasing word and things will come right magically. Properly communicate some real strategy to your stakeholders the fans,I dare you..tweet him and ask him nicely…

  • Comment 47, posted at 06.05.15 14:46:31 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 44) : I dont know what you said or asked but I have picked up (in my mind at least) that around here you have been very restrained over the last couple of weeks, mostly measuring your words and thoughts or not even getting involved in discussions, so I imagine you would have excercised the same retraint on Twitter, if so then Id guess that Smittie is starting to fray at the edges.

  • Comment 48, posted at 06.05.15 14:48:47 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • I doubt the invitation to open discussion was genuine. Problems have been rolling on since beginning of the season. If genuine This platform for discussion would have existed long ago.

  • Comment 49, posted at 06.05.15 14:51:42 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @benji (Comment 37) : So you are saying the CEO should step down because the game on the field is falling apart? He has no input on the training, doubt if he has much say in who gets signed. There’s a whole board running the union, Smit isn’t all powerful. He steered the union into a stable financial position which is nothing to sneeze at.

  • Comment 50, posted at 06.05.15 14:51:47 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 43) : Everyone already knows, riding some MTB race.

  • Comment 51, posted at 06.05.15 14:54:22 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • John ek dink jy moet di brief raam en in jou kantoor en ‘n ander in die ingang van Kingspark hang sodat jy en almal dit elke dag kan sien en weet as dinge nie verbeter soos jy beloof nie kan die brief terugkom na jou John om jou aantekla en dit kan vir jou slegte gevolge he – neem baie duidelik kennis – ons as ondersteuners wil nie net beloftes he nie ons soek goeie spelers en wen rugby. Hoelank gaan ons nog wag vir ‘n SR wen of moet ons maar vergeet daarvan – nee ‘n 1000 nee ons kan dit doen en ek dink die Sharks en ons hulle ondersteuners verdien dit teen die tyd – so asb maak dinge reg en gou ook. Vir nou is die Sharks soos ‘n broer in die tronk – jy is lief vir hom maar praat nie oor hom nie. Sharks Groete
    Leon Schrenk

  • Comment 52, posted at 06.05.15 14:54:38 by Leon Schrenk Reply

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  • So sharks make more money but lose more games. Just a quick question, what is the sharks reason for being? Cause I can go cheer for Alexander Forbes if it’s the money. The CEO in this case was a great rugby player himself so yes I would expect him to take charge if the core business is falling apart even if it is one of his lower level managers that needs help or support or to be disciplined…whichever ails Gary and team…

  • Comment 53, posted at 06.05.15 14:57:12 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Great work sharks fans. We get some feedback from Smit and everyone just dumps on the guy. Would you have been happy if he fired Gold? After half a season? If he stepped down and let a suit take over the running of the union? If he fired half the squad, buy out clauses be damned and dump the union back into the red? If he publicly started pointing fingers to those that work for him, blaming everyone and ruining any relationships that have been built? So fucking what if the bloody CEO rides mountain bike some weekends, he’s not the bloody coach! His job is behind the scenes and I bet you that it mostly happens weekdays. Should he tour with the squad and sit in the stands every week? Who will run stuff then? And what can he do from the stands in any case? All it would mean that the touring squad expenses will be higher, that’s all. There are problems at the Sharks, and it just might be that they decided to ride out some contracts and not pay some players and support staff a crapload to get rid of them.

    Should Smit have final say on team selections? Or should he run the union? Pretty sure his main job as CEO is to look at the overall health of the Union, and financially that has been achieved. Now the people he trusts has to implement a damn plan on the field that works.

    People keep dumping on the coaches, but if you actually read what was said regarding them being almost broke, who could they get to coach the team? Might be they got what they could afford. It’s certainly not ideal and White bit us in the ass big time, but you live and you learn. We all lauded Smit when he signed White, and we were all wrong. He didn’t fit in with the culture and that’s that.

    Great support form the number one fan site guys. I’ll be watching on Saturday supporting my team hoping they play better. Hell I’m hoping they win!

  • Comment 54, posted at 06.05.15 15:04:00 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 54) : “Hell I’m hoping they win!” I actually lol’ed

  • Comment 55, posted at 06.05.15 15:06:31 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 54) : I am sorry but what answers did we actually get in this letter?

  • Comment 56, posted at 06.05.15 15:07:49 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 55) : Anything is possible. Barrett is out and he’s in great form. If we remember to tackle we could shock them. Sharks vs Hurricanes has always been a great game.

  • Comment 57, posted at 06.05.15 15:08:44 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • Yes pastor shark take a poll of most popular changes weigh them up and implement some. You and many others are on this site week after week suggesting as well now you say the fans have no expertise or voice? We can all see that the “in John we trust ” society is getting smaller with each new fiasco and each new day. And right now my vote doesn’t matter much to John but when there are enough voices they will revolutions start the same way. Remember the union cannot survive on only a handful of unquestioning blind faith supporters they must keep the majority happy. They need to ensure the majority still trust them and that they curb the growth of the non trusting contingent. Show some good faith and win me back…I’m easy…promise…

  • Comment 58, posted at 06.05.15 15:10:57 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 56) : The only difference between this and the statements from Gold is that this was written by a PR person (I will bet all my money it wasn’t John). IMO both are just as hollow and purely all talk no action.

  • Comment 59, posted at 06.05.15 15:11:07 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 54) : Like I have asked before, has all his decisions been based intellectually or on personal reasons?

  • Comment 60, posted at 06.05.15 15:11:43 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 56) : Like I said, what did you expect from the guy? To assign blame? He hints to some huge unforseen problems and roadblocks behind the scenes, admits that the season has pretty much sucked ass thus far and promises they are working to sort said issues out. Seems he’s damned if he keeps quiet and damned if he speaks.

  • Comment 61, posted at 06.05.15 15:12:32 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • Exactly Uli. .no answers…feels a lot like the way a seasoned politician like richard nixon would answer …by not really answering at all!

  • Comment 62, posted at 06.05.15 15:12:35 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 57) : Believe it or not they are a whole team, and leading Super Rugby for a reason, one player out injured means nothing.

  • Comment 63, posted at 06.05.15 15:13:38 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 59) : Well that’s the Sharks biggest issue, all talk no action. The one person who actually talked the talk and walked the walk got dismissed.

  • Comment 64, posted at 06.05.15 15:13:43 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 51) : Wrong, this weekend its a motorsport.

  • Comment 65, posted at 06.05.15 15:13:52 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 54) :Thank you couldn’t have said it better myself.
    Hell the guy is being blamed for everything ,he even gets attacked for making the union profitable.

  • Comment 66, posted at 06.05.15 15:14:18 by The hound Reply
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  • We are going to rain on Plums party on the weekend.

  • Comment 67, posted at 06.05.15 15:14:57 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 60) : I’m sure that John doesn’t decide on his lonesome who to appoint, be it a coach or a player. He will have a say, but I’m damn sure they are trying their best to make the correct decisions. Some blows up spectacularly, some will work.

  • Comment 68, posted at 06.05.15 15:15:19 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 61) : What happened to the “OPEN” policy JS started with at the union? That was the first thing he said was going to change.

  • Comment 69, posted at 06.05.15 15:15:39 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 66) : Money means nothing if you don’t use it to improve.

  • Comment 70, posted at 06.05.15 15:15:50 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 63) : Yes they are, but Barrett is damn good. With him out they’ll be a little bit worse off. Always a chance mate.

  • Comment 71, posted at 06.05.15 15:16:27 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 64) : Plum, who we all wished would leave? Or White, who’s player management was so bad that loads of guys wanted to leave seeing as he treated them like schoolchildren?

  • Comment 72, posted at 06.05.15 15:17:35 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 70) : It’s not like the sharks suddenly found themselves with millions in the bank. They are in the black again, and the sponsorships means that we’ll stay that way a few years to come hopefully. Should they have thrown it all at Graham Henry and hope to hell it works out?

  • Comment 73, posted at 06.05.15 15:19:15 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • What is happening with Kankowski? Is he recovered? Is he still in the country? What happened to Wilson? No one knows?

  • Comment 74, posted at 06.05.15 15:19:30 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 69) : Hmm. So would you like a weekly fan letter? Or should the CEO of a company attend a weekly question and answer session? Or should Smit phone you personally each week? Maybe right before bedtime?

  • Comment 75, posted at 06.05.15 15:21:06 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • Im sorry but did those praising Smit actually read the letter or just the headline? All he says is that he is sad we losing…that we arent in financial shite after him costing us plenty with Plum + White…and that hopefully some of the school boys that played the curtain raisers will stick around. Are some paragraphs not showing on my feed then perhaps? I see no solutions? No holding players and management to account for their performance and discipline? No mention of inquiry as to why we have fielded the same players and got the same results yet no change? No mention of why we employ a defense coach, attack coach and intensity coach yet we are worse at those 3 things than before they were employed? No mention of why advertising banners cover half the stadium during matches? No mention of where Brendon Venter is hiding? Lets call a spade a spade- this letter is pretty pathetic – only honest part is the picture attached.

  • Comment 76, posted at 06.05.15 15:21:13 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 62) : Actually it was Nixon’s deputy a guy called Agnew who summed up your hysterical out bursts in the phrase Nattering Nabobs of Negativity,good call dude.

  • Comment 77, posted at 06.05.15 15:21:46 by The hound Reply
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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 72) : I never singled out anyone. But they both walked the walk.
    To get back on the JW issue, JW has publicly said that he was tired of coaching the support coaches.
    Secondly the same Sharks players who are now so shit, then they deserve to be treated like school kids if that gets them to the top of the conference. Thats obviously what they need, be treated like school kids.

  • Comment 78, posted at 06.05.15 15:22:18 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • So in summary John.
    There is a problem at the sharks we know there is a problem and we are going to try and fix it. We made some extra money but lost many games and have no answers we will continue making some plans and try to win because we don’t like to lose. We want you to tell us what could possibly be done but we have no real way for you to do so or to show that we actually listened. Thanks for your support everything will be ok cause we said so and no other proof offered. – Sadly many other journalists and expert people who know more about rugby than I do also think you have no plan and show no signs of your promised improvement.

  • Comment 79, posted at 06.05.15 15:25:59 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 76) : Amen, can someone please confirm to me if Gold is still living in Cape Town, as this is what I heard when last in Durban.

  • Comment 80, posted at 06.05.15 15:26:06 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 72) : To be honest do they deserve being treated in any other way? The Brumbies players had no complaints about Jake.

    There were a couple of things I did not like about Jake’s way of operating – main being that he played his prime players into the ground. However he had a clear plan, and he got a fair amount of success with that in his first year at the Sharks.

    I did not have a problem with his game plan – it was well suited for a team where the players have very little attacking nous and generally poor skills. You can’t play NZ / Aus type of rugby if the players don’t have the skill set. I did hope that he (and his coaching team) would gradually build up the attacking side of play.

  • Comment 81, posted at 06.05.15 15:26:47 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 76) : Pretty much my feelings on that PR exercise.

  • Comment 82, posted at 06.05.15 15:27:58 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 78) : We are playing like crap, and I’m hoping and praying for some improvement. We did win the conference with White, but it was with the most boring rugby imaginable. When the other teams figured us out we were toast. I’m pretty sure that if white stayed quite a few of the players would just have walked out, including the Du Plessis brothers.

    I can understand that most of the players are trying their best, but when there isn’t any confidence, crap happens like routine passes being dropped and mistakes made. We might not like some of the team selected each week, but we don’t really have a say now do we?

  • Comment 83, posted at 06.05.15 15:28:27 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 81) : Exactly

  • Comment 84, posted at 06.05.15 15:29:45 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @the hound Agnew was indicted and convicted of embezzling and tax fraud. Good call on using a crook and a fraud and a liar to make your point. You will excuse me if I take no quotes advice or life lessons from him or you. And maybe you should look up hysterical since I am calmly criticizing a failed institute. And I as many other sharks fans have had it up to here with empty promises and am exercising my right to criticize them without prior approval from yourself.

  • Comment 85, posted at 06.05.15 15:29:54 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 80) : He may as well be living in Japan with the impact he has had…

  • Comment 86, posted at 06.05.15 15:31:09 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 83) : Id much rather have boring winning ruggas that what we currently have. Look at the Bulls for example, the type of ruggas they have dished up over the years was boring rugby, yet they sit with how many cups over the years?

    JS said we are going to bread new players bla bla bla etc etc… what has happened since his arrival? Stevens, hoffman, cronje, now Joe. How many players have we lost due to this?

  • Comment 87, posted at 06.05.15 15:34:30 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 81) : I always found that very strange. Jake has been successful and praised where ever he goes, but when he comes to the Sharks suddenly he is the devil because the players don’t like him? Maybe they just didn’t like have a couch who actually pushed them hard, to much effort required for his game plan I guess.

  • Comment 88, posted at 06.05.15 15:36:04 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 86) : and that can go with all our Japan players as well.

  • Comment 89, posted at 06.05.15 15:36:08 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • Tell you guys what. I might be the only one who still believes in our union. We’ve been through some horrible seasons. Kevin Putt as coach jumps to mind. We’ve ended dead last on more than one occasion. We’ll end up dead last again. That’s professional sport, you can’t win every time.

    The union has been through massive changes with Brian van Rooyen leaving after half a lifetime in charge. Some bullshit and irregularities that would have sunk the union in a few years were uncovered, addressed and fixed. We got another new head coach during all this upheaval and you expect the team to just trundle along into the semis? We bought some duds, but it’s probable we couldn’t afford other players.

    I’ll support my team through this dark times, I just know we’ll end up on top soon.

  • Comment 90, posted at 06.05.15 15:36:17 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 88) : Yea I think they would much rather sit on the beach and surf, than work hard and be successful.

  • Comment 91, posted at 06.05.15 15:37:27 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • I would also love to know what transpired during the handover between Venter (pre-season) and Gold. Did these guys actually talk to each other at all?

    The whole defense debacle case in point – it was pretty clear there was an issue fairly early on. Why did the coaching team have to wait for Venter to identify what the problem was when he eventually popped in after the Crusaders game? We have a full time coaching team of five – probably the largest coaching team in SA.

  • Comment 92, posted at 06.05.15 15:38:07 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 79) : Come on guy tell us what you wanted him to do.Because I bet you that if he had done it you would have been just as pissed off.
    You started off by saying he was a shit naive businessman who would ruin the Union.
    When Steven Saad,who I am dam n sure is a better businessman than you published figures to prove that he had as the C.E.O. turned the finances around you then said that money doesn’t buy results.
    I can’t remember B.J ever coming out and apologising to the fans.Can’t remember any other C.E.O. ever doing it,especially old Jabba the Hut at the Stormers who won a single Currie Cup in 14 years.
    What do you want the guy to do,except not ride his mountain bike or racing car on the week end.
    You claim to know a lot about the inner workings of Kings Park,I severely doubt it.
    Trust me John Smit is a lot better for Natal rugby than the corrupt regime he replaced

  • Comment 93, posted at 06.05.15 15:39:02 by The hound Reply
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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 90) : I believe in the union, just not the idiots running it.

  • Comment 94, posted at 06.05.15 15:39:04 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Uli I would even stomach losing a season as long as I am contingent there really is a rebuild and a future.

  • Comment 95, posted at 06.05.15 15:40:30 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 92) : Well it seems to be the obvious, too many Chiefs.

  • Comment 96, posted at 06.05.15 15:40:54 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 95) : For sure, I think anyone would, but it seems pretty hopeful right now.

  • Comment 97, posted at 06.05.15 15:41:41 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 93) : You can’t use the example of the past people being bad to justify that the new ones are good. They have both been bad in their won ways, hence the Sharks have never managed to win Super Rugby, while arguably having the talent on several occasions.

  • Comment 98, posted at 06.05.15 15:41:53 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 77) :
    Hereunder the full lyrics of the ballade of Spiro Agnew.

    “I’ll sing you a song of
    Spiro Agnew
    And all the things he’s done…”

    :mrgreen: :lol: Hmm this could be adapted for just about any non achiever. :twisted:

  • Comment 99, posted at 06.05.15 15:44:47 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 90) : Its not a matter of support…its a matter of informed people with a genuine interest and concern at the moment for a team that they love. Just because we question doesnt mean we dont support. However, unlike some people that support certain parties (sorry Rob for the political dig) us Sharks supporters are mostly well informed and want to see the best decisions made for the Union and team. I have no problem with any of the coaches or players at the Sharks- I just would like to see better thought given to how to use them more effectively. Yes nobody will ever agree with all a coaches selections…but what we can agree is that doing the same thing over and over will prob yield the same results over and over again

  • Comment 100, posted at 06.05.15 15:46:25 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 90) : Amen to that! I am with you. Very easy to slaughter and point fingers, but I genuinely believe that it is in the toughest of times that true supporters stick with their team. My dad is probably one of the biggest Stormers/WP supporters out there, and time and again he offered to buy me a Stormers/WP jersey, with me each time politely declining. And I will continue to decline his kind offer, again and again and again. AND I WILL wear my Sharks jersey every time I go visit him. Whether we are 1st on the log, or dead last.

  • Comment 101, posted at 06.05.15 15:46:27 by Another Nick Reply

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  • I wish I could stop speculating but right now it’s all I have. I wish they had some better communication strategy. Lack of information can be deadly and half ass communications can arouse more suspicion than put rumours to bed.

  • Comment 102, posted at 06.05.15 15:46:55 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 99) : No it suits the one it was targeted to. :mrgreen: :cool:

  • Comment 103, posted at 06.05.15 15:47:05 by The hound Reply
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  • @Another Nick (Comment 101) : Huzzah! I actually wear my sharks jerseys more when we are crap. Makes me stand out and easier for my wife to find me then.

  • Comment 104, posted at 06.05.15 15:49:34 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 100) : That is true, and Hoffman infuriates me to no end. And Murray. But we do have a ridiculous amount of injuries. Hopefully with JPP, Bismark and Steyn back the coaches feel they can play a young scrummie, seeing as there will be loads of experience on the park then.

  • Comment 105, posted at 06.05.15 15:51:20 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • Oh come on hound man up little guy and stop the little insinuations u are really not as subtle as you may think also based on what evidence can anyone call anyone here an underachiever or maybe that is yet another fail on your part.

  • Comment 106, posted at 06.05.15 15:53:15 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 105) : What is the bet Hoffmann will start this weekend? Gold backed himself into a corner here – if he gave Ungerer more opportunities from the bench earlier on, he could have started him for this match. No way will he start him in such a crucial match.

  • Comment 107, posted at 06.05.15 15:54:19 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Most of what John is saying, means long term solutions.

    Schools rugby is where the Sharks are planning on building (and probably recruiting) from. From there they’ll go to Varsity Cup (hopefully Ukzn will make it there), after that u/19 and u/21, then hopefully be good enough for senior rugby.

    The schools will probably recruit from all over the country.

    Anyways, there seems to be no short term solution to this problem that had seemingly been coming since the start of the pro era.

  • Comment 108, posted at 06.05.15 15:56:31 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Really have to commend Smit for writing this.
    Shows passion for the Sharks.

    Its not like this is the worst the Sharks, or any other struggling team through the years for that matter, has ever been and I don’t recall any other CEOs coming out and showing real passion such as this.

  • Comment 109, posted at 06.05.15 15:56:46 by John Galt Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 107) : Lets be honest, the season is fucked. They should be giving the young guys a good go. And Hoffman showed his commitment or rather lack of it last week on our tryline. Praying he picks Ungerer, but yes, Hoffman is probably going to start. Here’s to hoping he runs into a prop in the first five minutes. Or Bismark gets hold of him in training. Hell, they might even pick cooper at 9 seeing as he’s reinach’s replacement.

  • Comment 110, posted at 06.05.15 15:56:58 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @DRAGNIPUR I agree with Sheldon if people weren’t real supporters they would not be this upset. Like I said I and probably everyone else would be very easy to win over all it takes is a little hope..

  • Comment 111, posted at 06.05.15 15:57:07 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 105) : Ok Hoffman is a case in point- he is a safe choice…so why have him in th team when you have a current Bok starting in Reinach- rather let the more robust and exciting Ungerer play and play Hoffman in the VC side to add stability there. Murray combined fairly well with Williams but definitely not with Esterhuizen…so dont play them together. JPP lacks well everything at the moment so put him back on the wing where he knows how to play. Play Mvovo at 15 to get sum speed on the ball. How i wish we could play Steyn at 10 with Williams at 12 and Sithole at 13. JPP and Wilson on the wings. Thats just the backline…utilise the talent we do have. Defense coach- get some from of structure in place- even if its just the super simple rush defense…but get something in place. Paul Anthony forget coaching Intensity go Coach the forwards in the VC team that are young and need guidance to step up, and take Stevens with you- he will cope at that pace and his knowledge to teach kids as long as its not diet advice.

  • Comment 112, posted at 06.05.15 15:59:42 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 105) : Look if they haven’t got the message on Hoffman by now we have to start questioning if he has photos of Venter and Gold in a compromising position in the showers.
    I have a lot of patience with things these days,but that one i cannot fathom.There is absolutely no logic to it.
    At a hug push I can argue that Stevens has an impressive C.V. he kept guys like Sheridan out of the English team.
    Murray most of us can remember as a magic partner with Brad Barrit.
    But somebody please justify Hoffman

  • Comment 113, posted at 06.05.15 15:59:44 by The hound Reply
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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 110) : So you say that we have players coming back so hopefully they try new players, but you admit the most likely won’t. I fail to see your logic behind why we should be blindly following and supporting?

    I support the Sharks name and always will, but I don’t support the people involved.Apparently you are willing to support the people no matter how much they fail to improve.

  • Comment 114, posted at 06.05.15 16:01:07 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 113) : Hoffman is tiny so can fit on the same seat as Zelinga on the plane and doesnt cost a lot to feed…he is the economical pick. Did you not read Smit’s letter? He is about saving money

  • Comment 115, posted at 06.05.15 16:03:23 by SheldonK Reply

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  • What a patronising piece of shit did I just read? Are we school kids?

  • Comment 116, posted at 06.05.15 16:03:27 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • Guys, I understand that we are frustrated but it took a lot for John to do this. I for one am thankful and glad to hear that there are plans in place to improve the current situation. We are probably going to lose most of our remaining games, at least the defeats won’t make me want to break my television.

  • Comment 117, posted at 06.05.15 16:03:57 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • I wonder if hoffman messed up this badly at any aus or nz club if he wouldn’t be packing his bags or at least fighting for a berth right now? Why so tolerant with the guy?

  • Comment 118, posted at 06.05.15 16:04:18 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 115) : LOL ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)

  • Comment 119, posted at 06.05.15 16:05:43 by The hound Reply
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  • But what plan did he tell us about great shark? He is regurgitating the direction with the juniors and schools that was communicated when Jake was still here as for the senior teams no plan or strategy mentioned only that they are working on it….it tell me about as much as a please stand by we are experiencing technical difficulties message from sabc or a reassurance from eskom…

  • Comment 120, posted at 06.05.15 16:08:07 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 117) : Yes and no. all he said was what we already know, in fact I think he got all his info from SW to write that “open” letter.

  • Comment 121, posted at 06.05.15 16:08:30 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 121) : In the business I used to be in we referred what we did ”as being in the business of polishing turds”
    John is sitting with a turd,and as far as I am concerned he’s put a bit of spit and polish on it.

  • Comment 122, posted at 06.05.15 16:12:32 by The hound Reply
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  • He should have started with…I can neither confirm nor deny…there may or may not be plans afoot for the remedy of a situation that may or may not exist. Details to which we may or may not disclose whichever is the least informative.

  • Comment 123, posted at 06.05.15 16:13:16 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I really am keen to hear what is the story with kanko. Does ANYONE know?

  • Comment 124, posted at 06.05.15 16:15:23 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 124) : Well we just signed Jaques Potgieter so assuming some high paid loose forward is gone or going

  • Comment 125, posted at 06.05.15 16:16:29 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 125) : Wait what?

  • Comment 126, posted at 06.05.15 16:18:32 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 125) : For real? So we will have to un-teach him running into space, and make sure he tries to run over the nearest defender.

  • Comment 127, posted at 06.05.15 16:20:32 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Ja hold up we signed potgieter? I thought Jake poached him?

  • Comment 128, posted at 06.05.15 16:20:50 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 127) : Exactly…absolutely no thinking or tackling is allowed on the field. And under no circumstances will you offload in the tackle

  • Comment 129, posted at 06.05.15 16:23:33 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Oh Jacque not the blonde bomb. Didn’t see the first part. So at least we are getting the age right with the new signings. Is this a positive new trend signing under 30 ‘ s?

  • Comment 130, posted at 06.05.15 16:25:57 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 130) : He’s 29….

  • Comment 131, posted at 06.05.15 16:28:17 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 131) : Well at least we signed him when he was younger than 30. Babysteps.

  • Comment 132, posted at 06.05.15 16:29:21 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Could also have gone horribly the other way could have been Jacques potgieter the flyhalf

  • Comment 133, posted at 06.05.15 16:30:37 by coolfusion Reply

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  • The complete caption must have been edited out. It said: “Yes my love, I can, they’re up there just below the Bulls.

    I had to stop reading there. The rest was just to lengthy.

    Thankfully he did not say, “I’d like to get my life back”, like that BP guy, on his sail boat, whilst oil was gushing into the ocean.

    If it meant sailing on a smaller boat, he got his wish, because shortly after he was a CEO no more.

  • Comment 134, posted at 06.05.15 16:34:52 by fyndraai Reply
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  • Since I don’t have facts I will speculate. Things have been very quiet around kanko returning to play..more subterfuge from sharks management?

  • Comment 135, posted at 06.05.15 16:36:15 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Or maybe he said …one day I would like to play for that team (pointing at a winning team)…then when I retire I’ll come play for your team. …

  • Comment 136, posted at 06.05.15 16:38:42 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Life can be cruel sometimes.

    When you’re a celebrity CEO, you’re to busy to accept these cool invitations to drive off-road race cars. Then later on, when you’re not a celebrity CEO anymore and have the time, you won’t get the invites.

  • Comment 137, posted at 06.05.15 16:47:27 by fyndraai Reply
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  • Yes this message was probably typed by PR department, but it would’ve crossed his desk before it was distributed. And so what, give me any other major CEO out there writing statements on their own??

  • Comment 138, posted at 06.05.15 16:56:35 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • I have huge respect for John Smit. met him personally on a couple of occasions.

    I still think he is the right CEO for this union.
    He just needs the right support structure below him… And that is where the problem might be at.

  • Comment 139, posted at 06.05.15 16:57:08 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 139) : I.e. Gary and Brendon was proven to be successful in the past. However, Gary cant be coach and DOR. It needs to be one of the two. preferably DOR. Same with Venter, cant be temporary Technical Analyst, Need to be fulltime.

    These decisions/actions from the workings below John, will make him succeed .. or not.

  • Comment 140, posted at 06.05.15 17:00:10 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • Commiserations to all the old Sharks buds… We WP supporters do truly understand and feel your pain… they hand out the T-shirts at Newlands…! :-)
    As bad as it gets for you guys.. just remember It could be worse… you could be Stormers fans…! ;-)

    Chins up guys… the wheel turns.. and the Sharks will be back… and making you all proud again…
    Only question is… will the Stormers ever even get there? :roll:

  • Comment 141, posted at 06.05.15 19:52:47 by ufo Reply

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  • Make us proud boys.Even if you lose.
    Walk the JS talk.

  • Comment 142, posted at 07.05.15 08:41:56 by ryecatcher Reply

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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 139) :

    Really? Can I ask why? Is it still because of 2007?

    IT cant be because of his exemplary experience as a CEO – he has none.

  • Comment 143, posted at 07.05.15 18:41:24 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @ufo (Comment 141) : Wash your mouth. WPRU already has what you’re trying to get.

  • Comment 144, posted at 07.05.15 23:43:20 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 144) : I see now you’re a province fan. Just a question – what more do you want than the most successful side in the history of sa rugby?

  • Comment 145, posted at 07.05.15 23:46:02 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 145) : I’m guessing a SR trophy

  • Comment 146, posted at 08.05.15 00:26:35 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 145) : lol. “The most successful side in the history of SA rugby”. Emphasis on the word “history”. Maybe in the 1800s.

  • Comment 147, posted at 08.05.15 03:38:54 by Feather Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 145) :
    Nostalgia’s one thing… would rather read about our success in tomorrow’s paper than in a dusty history book…

  • Comment 148, posted at 08.05.15 06:52:28 by ufo Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 146) :
    Indeed Van… same as you guys… that elusive SR title…
    But not holding my breath… will have to see who our new coach is next year…

  • Comment 149, posted at 08.05.15 06:54:33 by ufo Reply

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  • @Feather (Comment 147) :

    Better than the Sharks in history, better than the Sharks currently.

  • Comment 150, posted at 08.05.15 11:31:17 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @ufo (Comment 149) :

    It’ll be an ex-Bok coach… from Paarl…

  • Comment 151, posted at 08.05.15 11:32:06 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @ufo (Comment 148) :

    Would you rather have a successful history than not.

  • Comment 152, posted at 08.05.15 11:33:30 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 151) : you reckon?

  • Comment 153, posted at 08.05.15 11:49:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 153) : Is mallet from Paarl? Only good thing for us if WP appoint him then we don’t have to listen to him on SS lol :mrgreen:

  • Comment 154, posted at 08.05.15 11:58:22 by RedSharkUtd82 Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 153) :

    Wouldnt bet the house on it, but it makes sense.

  • Comment 155, posted at 08.05.15 12:15:43 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 153) : @VinChainSaw (Comment 155) :

    Wouldnt be at all unhappy if that came to pass btw.
    His style of rugby would work well in Super Rugby.

  • Comment 156, posted at 08.05.15 12:26:53 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 150) :
    Not sure about that… We’ve had maybe one good game this season… the rest varied from so-so to crickey-ugly…!

  • Comment 157, posted at 08.05.15 12:31:56 by ufo Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 151) :
    Divvie’s not a bad coach… but am hoping for Eddie or Dobbo….

  • Comment 158, posted at 08.05.15 12:33:17 by ufo Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 152) :
    Unfortunately we play the game on a rugby field… not in a history book…
    V=BUt sure… proud of our history… for what it’s worth… (which is not much when the whistle blows)

  • Comment 159, posted at 08.05.15 12:34:49 by ufo Reply

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  • @RedSharkUtd82 (Comment 154) :
    Hehehe… don;t think mallet would take the job… even it was was offered to him…

  • Comment 160, posted at 08.05.15 12:35:43 by ufo Reply

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  • @ufo (Comment 160) : Lol ok..

  • Comment 161, posted at 08.05.15 12:45:02 by RedSharkUtd82 Reply

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  • @ufo (Comment 157) :

    Yeah, but playing poorly and still winning and with a shot at a home semi says something all by itself.

  • Comment 162, posted at 08.05.15 13:22:22 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Would be good to get mallet back into SA coaching.

  • Comment 163, posted at 08.05.15 13:32:49 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 162) : And you were the first in line to congratulate the Sharks when Jake White did just that last year.

  • Comment 164, posted at 08.05.15 13:37:01 by The hound Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 162) :
    We’re just too inconsistent to realistically challenge for a home semi… although would be very cool if we did manage it… I just don’t think it will…

  • Comment 165, posted at 08.05.15 14:59:42 by ufo Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 163) :
    It would indeed… I just can’t see it happening… He’s on a good wicket with Supersport… The Nick and Naas Show is very good… IMO…

  • Comment 166, posted at 08.05.15 15:01:35 by ufo Reply

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  • Supersport must be paying very well even na as hasn’t even bothered to re enter the coaching arena

  • Comment 167, posted at 08.05.15 15:11:38 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Yip… big money to be ‘backseat’ coaches… perfect job….! ;-)

  • Comment 168, posted at 08.05.15 15:21:11 by ufo Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 164) :

    Hahahaha, touche.

    But then i detest Jake, i detest his playing style, i detest his attitude, but mostly i detest his lack of loyalty.

    So its somewhat unlikely ill ever have anything good to say where hes involved.

  • Comment 169, posted at 08.05.15 15:50:34 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 164) :

    That said, i did go on and on last year about there being deep underlying problems at the sharks and i was pilloried for it.

  • Comment 170, posted at 08.05.15 15:51:18 by VinChainSaw Reply
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