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What they had to say: Sharks vs Waratahs, Round 14


Written by Stephen Smith (StevieS)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 18 May 2015 at 22:49
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Hi Sharks fans. What a terrible display by the referee Rohan Hoffman! It borders on blatant bias and I hope SANZAR will sanction him, but I won’t be holding my breath. His call for a high tackle against Lionel Cronje on Kurtley Beale was pathetic, with Cronje’s arm at waist height. Let’s see how the Aussie press, in particular, viewed the game.

South Africa:

“The Waratahs should have adopted an old Beatles song as their anthem in Sydney on Saturday as their 33-18 Vodacom Super Rugby win over the Cell C Sharks was certainly a case of them getting by with a little help from a friend, the friend in this case being referee Rohan Hoffmann.” – supersport.com

“Sharks CEO John Smit has backed Sanzar to deal with Rohan Hoffman following the Australian referee’s questionable display in Saturday’s Super Rugby clash between the Waratahs and the Durban-based side.” – news24.com

“It was perhaps closer than the scoreline suggests, but all that matters is that the Sharks slumped to a 33-18 loss to the Waratahs in a Super Rugby clash in Sydney on Saturday.” – news24.com

“Rohan Hoffmann had a shocker with the whistle, and it was the Sharks who often found themselves on the wrong side of the referee’s calls. His decisions baffled commentators and viewers alike and left the Sharks hopelessly frustrated.” – sarugbymag.co.za

“Defending champions New South Wales Waratahs were pushed to the limit before fending off South Africa’s Sharks 33-18 in their Super Rugby match in Sydney on Saturday. The Waratahs only sealed the match with a runaway solo try by Bernard Foley in the final minute after a Sharks handling error.” – rugby365.com

“The New South Wales Waratahs got their stuttering Super Rugby title defence back on track with a 33-18 victory over South Africa’s Sharks at Sydney Football Stadium on Saturday.” – iol.co.za

“The NSW Waratahs have overcome the Sharks 33-18 in a gripping arm wrestle at Allianz Stadium. Both sides traded blows in a see-sawing second half but it was Bernard Foley’s perfect night with the boot that sealed the game for the defending champions; his personal haul of 23 points equalling Mat Rogers’ record against the Sharks from 2004.” – rugby15.co.za

New Zealand:

“Cheika was livid after referee Rohan Hoffman penalised prop Benn Robinson for apparently entering a ruck from the side as the Waratahs pressed the Sharks line just before halftime. The incident sparked a melee and Waratahs hooker Tolu Latu was fortunate to escape with a warning for striking Sharks Lwazi Mvovo in the head as tempers flared.” – nzherald.co.nz

“Cheika admitted the scoreline didn’t reflect the closeness of the match. “We’re just staying in there somehow. I’m not quite sure how,” he said. “I suppose we just expect such a high standard of play from ourselves, but tonight I think our effort was there. “Perhaps we were even trying a bit too hard. They were so keen to get the ball moving again, get the movement back in our game.” Sharks coach Gary Gold said a sixth straight defeat was tough to swallow. “We’re a proud union and we’re in uncharted territory. We haven’t been this low on the log before,” he said. “We just have to stay in the fight.” – stuff.co.nz

“There was more bad blood in the second half as Hoffman struggled to keep a lid on proceedings. He was loudly jeered by Waratahs fans before overturning a dodgy call against the Tahs upon a video replay of Israel Folau’s long clearing kick.” – tvnz.co.nz

“Both sides traded blows in a see-sawing second half but it was Bernard Foley’s perfect night with the boot that sealed the game for the defending champions; his personal haul of 23 points equalling Mat Rogers’ record against the Sharks from 2004.” – superrugby.co.nz

Australia:

“THE Sharks refused to bite on calls for neutral referees to be re-instated last night after some contentious decisions from an Aussie whistleblower helped the Waratahs claw their way to a much-needed win. … A 23-point haul from Bernard Foley was enough for the Waratahs to overcome the spirited Sharks, who weren’t helped by the fact almost every 50-50 call by referee Rohan Hoffman went against them.” – dailytelegraph.com.au

“In match that will be remembered for some deeply controversial officiating as much as any of the rugby, the Waratahs scored three tries to the South Africans’ two, although the visitors will feel aggrieved at winger Sibusiso Sithole’s disallowed try that would have made things interesting late in the game.” – smh.com.au

“The most disputed of the night came for the Durban side when they were surging back into the match, and trailing by 8 points in the 70th minute. A superb solo effort by Sharks winger Sibussio Sithole saw him dive into the left hand corner for a possible try, but after a potential Kurtley Beale shoulder charge was ruled out, so too was the try by TMO George Ayoub.” – foxsports.com.au

“Cheika’s jovial mood post-match was in stark contrast to when he fumed throughout an ill-tempered affair blighted by some bewildering decisions by referee Rohan Hoffman and TMO George Ayoub.” – theroar.com.au

International:

“The Waratahs have claimed a controversial 15-point victory over the Sharks in Sydney. Some poor officiating decisions seemed to put the Sharks on the backfoot and allowed the Tahs to make easy work of the visitor’s defence in the opening half, before they secured the win in the final minutes with a Bernard Foley runaway try.” – espn.co.uk

“The Sharks almost got back into it with ten minutes remaining when S’bura Sithole looked to have crossed acrobatically in the corner, but after consultation with the TMO it was deemed that he had just put a knee in touch before dotting down. It was cruel on the Sharks, who were on the wrong end of a lot of decisions on the night, and their evening finished in disappointment when a loose ball in midfield was hacked forward by Foley, who then scooped it up and sprinted over unchallenged for the final try of the game two minutes from time, adding the conversion for a 23-point haul.” – planetrugby.com

“A high tackle from Cronje on a slipping Beale gave Foley an easy shot at three points, and he made no mistake to stretch the hosts’ lead once again, before adding three more when JP Pietersen produced an intentional knock-on, to make it 26-18.” – sanzarrugby.com

“The Sharks caught the Waratahs napping when Cronje angled his quickly taken free kick for winger Odwa Ndungane to score in the 49th minute. The Sydneysiders hit back minutes later when giant winger Taqele Naiyaravoro carried Sithole over the line to be awarded a try via the video referee before the Sharks fought back with their second try.” – superxv.com

Twitter (all quotes courtesy of news24.com this week):

“Pat Symcox @PatSymcox77

“Once upon a time it was Darrel Hair…now its Hoffman…WTH.” – Pat Symcox

“Hoffman was bad but TMO George Ayoub shouldn’t escape ridicule either. Staggeringly inept. #WARvSHA #SSRugby”

“I’m not South African, but when their #SuperRugby teams tour Aus/ NZ, they suffer from some awful refereeing decisions #WARvSHA”

“What a joke of a ref today clearly robbed the Sharks and we need all the help we can get this season”

“To borrow a line from the Beatles, the Waratahs got by with a little help from their friends. The Friends being the ref and his assistants.” – Gavin Rich

“David Campese calls Rohan Hoffmann a joke. He’s being kind. #ssrugby”

“If Phil Kearns says “the Sharks were really stiffed” tells you how bad Rohan Hoffman was” – Dan Retief

“Rohan Hoffmann doing his best Stuart Berry impersonation. Super Rugby really need to look at improving standard of refs #WARvSHA #SuperRugby”



48 Comments

  • This is one time when it is really nice to be on the wrong end of refereeing calls. I don’t feel like my blood is boiling and my head about to explode. I’m just glad there is some attention on the bad officiating. Hopefully we saved other teams from the same. Imagine if this had to happen to one of the top 6 – 8 and they end op being knocked out of the play – offs.

    This is bad for rugby. It really needs to be sorted.

    And though the line from the Sharks are that we should stick with “best man for job” regardless of nationality, this is the second time we’ve been stiffed by refs affiliated with the team we played against… just something to consider.

  • Comment 1, posted at 18.05.15 23:05:12 by Letgo Reply
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  • I’d rather they’d not go back to so called “neutral” referees.

    South African teams will once again be screwed by an Aussie ref in all games against New Zealand and by a Kiwi ref in all games against Aus teams.

    At least under the current system our teams get a fair shake some of the time.

  • Comment 2, posted at 19.05.15 01:07:26 by fyndraai Reply
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  • Thanks for the effort…some vindication in there…but still tough to read without ending up with blood pressure issues…

  • Comment 3, posted at 19.05.15 01:48:02 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 1) : Second time? By my count it is at least 3 this season!

  • Comment 4, posted at 19.05.15 01:48:50 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 3) : My pleasure. I hope I didn’t raise your blood pressure too much lol

  • Comment 5, posted at 19.05.15 07:24:47 by StevieS Reply
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  • Strangely enough, I didn’t feel so bad after the game. I guess it’s because even though we lost, it was never due to lack of effort from the guys. They gave their all and played with pride again, which was great to see.
    This to me was classic from Cheika though: “We’re just staying in there somehow. I’m not quite sure how…” Really? You are not sure how?? Seriously!?! SMH… :???:

  • Comment 6, posted at 19.05.15 07:31:29 by Another Nick Reply

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  • @Another Nick (Comment 6) : Lol, that last part of your comment :lol:

    I think the boys played a lot better. More heart and some clever play.

  • Comment 7, posted at 19.05.15 08:04:24 by StevieS Reply
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  • Sad thing is I don’t see any signs of things changing in regards to poor referee performances. Rugby union (and SANZAR rugby especially) has some serious problems. Empty stadiums, poor refereeing, complex rules, rewarding teams that play without the ball, Super 18, inconsistent citings… Sevens may very well overtake it at some point.

  • Comment 8, posted at 19.05.15 08:13:12 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 7) : Agree. We created some fantastic opportunities and scored a few very good tries, even if one of them didn’t stand. The cross-kick from Lionel that set up the try for Ndungane was brilliant! More of the same please! I reckon we stand a very good chance of beating the Reds. Finger crossed for a fair ref though…

  • Comment 9, posted at 19.05.15 08:14:21 by Another Nick Reply

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  • @Another Nick (Comment 9) : Referee – Angus Gardner. Assistant referees – Matt O’Brien and Damien Mitchelmore. TMO – Peter Marshall.

  • Comment 10, posted at 19.05.15 08:33:33 by Ben Reply
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  • Seems like Rohan Hoffman has been dropped to assistant referee.

    http://www.sanzarrugby.com/superrugby/news/super-rugby-referees-round-15/

  • Comment 11, posted at 19.05.15 08:38:13 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 10) : Don’t know much about Angus to be honest. Can’t surely be worse than Hoffman. @Ben (Comment 11) : Seems like a mere slap on the wrist to me, but at least some action was taken.

  • Comment 12, posted at 19.05.15 08:40:52 by Another Nick Reply

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  • For me a referee will always make mistakes…its human nature and nobody is perfect. And having a human as opposed to a robot ref the game is what we want. However, the TMO was put in place to ensure that the correct calls are made when the ref isnt sure when he views it in real time. How the TMOs have in recent past made so many glaringly obvious errors is beyond belief and if this was cricket their watch be an enquiry into match fixing. So yes a ref will make mistakes and that can be excused…what can not be excused is the ref refusing TMO help and then the TMO making glaringly obvious incorrect calls.

  • Comment 13, posted at 19.05.15 08:53:26 by SheldonK Reply

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  • This is going back a year to what Kaplan had to say after Hoffmann reffed the Crusaders vs Sharks game last year.

    “I thought Rohan Hoffman (Crusaders vs Sharks) had a poor day at the office. It was a difficult game to referee with so much at stake, but he looked flustered, rushed and made some poor calls. He must have known what was coming with the constant holding back of players, as was the case in the Crusaders v Stormers game and did very little about it, leading to a lot of niggle. This type of preparation is not good enough. I have no issue with the red card for Deysel. It is the only decision to make, however what about the issuing of a yellow to the perpetual transgressors??? It’s ridiculous how often they get away with it, with no sanction. Something needs to be done about this from a refereeing coaching perspective, as this type of behaviour may well determine the outcome of a very important playoff game in the near future!”

  • Comment 14, posted at 19.05.15 09:09:57 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 14) : Thanks for the info. Gives great perspective on Rohan’s performance this year.

    @Another Nick (Comment 9) : I think the ref will be on his best behaviour, given the scrutiny on all refs after Rohan’s performance.

    @vanmartin (Comment 8) : I think they need to make a two tier competition, like the old Heineken Cup. You have bottom 10 and top ten with promotion and relegation on merit. No set number of teams from a country in any competition e.g. all five NZ teams could end up in top competition. It would mean less games and fairer competition. You could invite Samoa, Fiji and Tonga in as well.

  • Comment 15, posted at 19.05.15 09:44:13 by StevieS Reply
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  • Major problem for rugby union – too many yellow and red cards in the game today. They are game killers.

  • Comment 16, posted at 19.05.15 10:40:55 by Feather Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 13) : good article again Stevie,and I agree and my view which may be radicle and was suggested by someone else albeit in anger ,when faced with this rubbish the Sharks or any other SA team,as this rubbish is constantly dished out to SA teams, should make a decision to walk off and let SANZAR then deal with real repercussions resulting out of the farce

  • Comment 17, posted at 19.05.15 11:03:16 by benji Reply
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  • Does anyone remember a T.V comedy series of a few years ago called Scrubs,set in a USA hospital.
    The central character spent the series dodging the hospital janitor,who terrorised him.
    That janitor is the splitting image of Hoffman,a nasty phychopath.

  • Comment 18, posted at 19.05.15 11:06:24 by The hound Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 17) : cause let me tell you if that was FS or any other Sharks player who tackle Beale in that manner would have received a red card,a penalty try awarded in the blink of an eye,its enough of this biased nonsense

  • Comment 19, posted at 19.05.15 11:10:36 by benji Reply
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  • Hoffman may get disciplined and only because he is not nz or aus…same as the player bias. But the big problem will always be the huge inconsistency and bias in sanzar its self. SA rugby doesn’t have the balls to fight for our player rights. I have been hoping for a long time now that our clubs would get involved in other overseas leagues besides what sanzar dishes up. SA is supposed to be an equal partner in sanzar but I don’t see it.

  • Comment 20, posted at 19.05.15 11:13:55 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 18) : Yes, but he was areal softy in The Middle.

  • Comment 21, posted at 19.05.15 11:16:00 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 20) : Hoffman is an Australian.

  • Comment 22, posted at 19.05.15 11:28:30 by Ben Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 21) : Does he play Mike Heck? How tall is that guy?

  • Comment 23, posted at 19.05.15 11:34:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 22) : He was born in Aus but then went to Portugal to play rugby,was naturalised and played in the Portuguese team at the WC before returning to Aus
    to start a post rugby career as a referee.

  • Comment 24, posted at 19.05.15 11:44:56 by The hound Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : Very tall, about twice as tall a s Hoffmannn.

  • Comment 25, posted at 19.05.15 11:47:17 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 25) : Hoffman is also quite a tall pile of shit.

  • Comment 26, posted at 19.05.15 11:50:30 by The hound Reply
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  • I note with interest that it appears that having Hoffman as a surname seems to guarantee mediocrity/incompetence on the rugby field…

  • Comment 27, posted at 19.05.15 11:50:45 by Culling Song Reply
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  • My mistake but I still say on the whole sanzar is a very biased and one sided org so to expect justice from them would be a stretch. At least for any SA based side. In the past I have seen them stretch and bend their own rules to the advantage of the other two supposed equal partners in this sanzar setup. I say we should get into some NH rugby competitions, sanzar is not the only show in town.

  • Comment 28, posted at 19.05.15 11:51:10 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 20) : Well just last month Hoskins did take on SANZAR about the perceived inconsistancies with regards to disciplinary decisions. It was a first and I think he did not get as much recognition for that stance as he should have.

  • Comment 29, posted at 19.05.15 11:53:54 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Besides which, being exposed to NH style of play might benefit SA clubs. A very exciting brand of rugby being played there at the moment wasn’t there a plan some time ago to start a rebel league to do just that?

  • Comment 30, posted at 19.05.15 12:00:54 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 30) : Dont hold your breath on the style of play with NH exposure….being exposed to lots of NZ style of play has still done nothing to change our style. Cant see it happening.

  • Comment 31, posted at 19.05.15 12:05:07 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Well if he did then good on him. But just looking at the steyn banning debacle I say that in most cases they let these guys slide. they get to do whatever they want and seem to overule us in any event. Way to little from sari in the way of fighting for SA rugby. And if there is then the rest of our unions should get behind those individuals.

  • Comment 32, posted at 19.05.15 12:08:50 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @benji (Comment 17) : Thanks benji.

    We could play in both competitions. We don’t need to have all of our teams in either one or the other competition, we could split them. Just a thought.

  • Comment 33, posted at 19.05.15 12:22:07 by StevieS Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 32) : Hoskins took them on about the Steyn debacle. Good on him. The only problem is: What became of that?! Sounds pretty much like nothing…

  • Comment 34, posted at 19.05.15 12:29:55 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 14) : @coolfusion (Comment 20) : Hoffman gets “demoted” to touch judge?! Don’t the refs act as touch judges regularly? Next week he’s back reffing…what the hell is the point if that? So we’ll read about him and his rubbish reffing again :!:

  • Comment 35, posted at 19.05.15 12:33:46 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Maybe I’m just being cynical, but despite all of Lyndon Bray’s fancy talk…I’ll believe it when I see it…

  • Comment 36, posted at 19.05.15 12:35:08 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 27) : This comment needs more love :grin:

    Give that man something brewed at Devil’s Peak.

  • Comment 37, posted at 19.05.15 12:39:12 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 37) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 38, posted at 19.05.15 12:46:56 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 37) : :lol:

  • Comment 39, posted at 19.05.15 14:48:43 by StevieS Reply
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  • Rohan Hoffman has to be exhibit A to put it to SANZAR that, whatever approach they are taking to improving refs and curbing their stuff ups…it is not working!

  • Comment 40, posted at 19.05.15 15:27:52 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Tony Johnson makes a good point in his article on supersport.com: Is improved accountability really good enough when SANZAR doesn’t mention any names of or actions taken against referees. We just have to guess who was stood down and who just part of normal rotation. For example, was Glen Jackson, who – bar one mistake made by his TMO at the end of the game – had a pretty good game, hand the same “punishment” as Hoffman who has been consistently poor all season?! Very little transparency to be had…

  • Comment 41, posted at 19.05.15 22:15:40 by pastorshark Reply
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  • :shock: Holy Moly, I never had a chance to watch the game on the weekend and have now only managed to get through the first half and in that alone this Hoffmann guy is just diabolical, unbelievably so. He has missed so much its unbelievable but for me the cherry on the cake is calling half time with the penalty, us kicking the ball out adjacent to where the penalty was given and then Hoffmann saying that there was still time on the clock. Im looking forward to the 2nd half.

    This guy doesnt need sanction, he needs a sanitorium.

  • Comment 42, posted at 20.05.15 09:32:13 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • When the Aus papers even mention the kak reffing you know we were shafted. Wonder who paid Hoffman and how much??

  • Comment 43, posted at 20.05.15 13:10:01 by RedSharkUtd82 Reply

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  • @RedSharkUtd82 (Comment 43) : If this was cricket he would have been in deep shit.

  • Comment 44, posted at 20.05.15 13:21:16 by Ben Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 42) : Ja no look!

  • Comment 45, posted at 20.05.15 13:27:26 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @RedSharkUtd82 (Comment 43) : Personally I just think he has always been kak…no money needed to change hands for him to ref poorly!

  • Comment 46, posted at 20.05.15 13:28:21 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Read the bit about Hoffmann in Superwrap…that was my concern…all refs are rested after a certain number of games…Hoffmann was due to be rested this week…so dropping him to touch judge duty says nothing at this stage! If he is reffing again next weekend I will have a cadenza!!!
    http://www.supersport.com/rugby/super-rugby/news/150520/SuperWrap_Week_14_2015

  • Comment 47, posted at 20.05.15 21:40:57 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 46) : Lol also true.

  • Comment 48, posted at 21.05.15 09:26:24 by RedSharkUtd82 Reply

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