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Halfbacks cleared


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Springboks on 7 Jul 2015 at 07:41
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In a piece of good news for Sharks and Bok fans alike, both Cobus Reinach and Patrick Lambie have been declared fit for selection for the Springboks this week.

Both have been out of the game for lengthy periods after sustaining injuries during the Sharks’ Super Rugby campaign; Lambie hurt his neck against the Crusaders back around Easter, while Reinach suffered a hand fracture during the opening tour game against the Highlanders.

Bok team doctor Craig Roberts has given the pair the all clear, though – along with Bok captain Jean de Villiers – and they will come into the selection frame for this weekend’s match against a World XV at Newlands.

The news is less good for number 8 Duane Vermeulen, though – his neck problem will require surgery which rules him out of the entire Rugby Championship campaign and also places his World Cup participation in doubt.



58 Comments

  • Awesome!! Though I naturally want both of them to start, I think it would be wise to rather ease them back in, giving them the last 20mins or so from the bench. Very important that they are managed properly for the WC later this year.

  • Comment 1, posted at 07.07.15 07:49:08 by Another Nick Reply
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  • @Another Nick (Comment 1) : I highly doubt they will or even would have started anyway.

  • Comment 2, posted at 07.07.15 08:07:31 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Rob becos i love making you do research haha Any chance of a list of the fit guys in the Bok squad? I know they will prob release the team for SATurday soon but just wondering who is actually available to pick from. I hope they dont start Lambie- that could be a risk

  • Comment 3, posted at 07.07.15 08:18:32 by SheldonK Reply

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  • I’d like to see Faf and Elton start this Saturday…and be allowed to play to their strengths.

  • Comment 4, posted at 07.07.15 08:35:50 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 4) : yes, with Whiteley at 8…

  • Comment 5, posted at 07.07.15 09:54:00 by grant10 Reply

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  • ja just hope they’re 100% ready and not “ready”!!!!!

  • Comment 6, posted at 07.07.15 09:54:50 by JD Reply
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  • Excellent news for these two, although i really feel for Duane, it would be a huge loss to not have him for World Cup.

  • Comment 7, posted at 07.07.15 09:56:11 by stevovo Reply
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  • @stevovo (Comment 7) : Indeed

  • Comment 8, posted at 07.07.15 10:03:06 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @grant10 (Comment 5) : My biggest nightmare is that HM will willingly use those 3 players, and force them to play his mysterious game plan.

    I say mysterious, because he vehemently argues that players shouldn’t kick the ball away aimlessly and that opposition will punish you for doing it, then coaches the Boks to do exactly that…

    …or he is unable to get his message across, which means that he shouldn’t coach, but rather become technical assistant. :twisted:

  • Comment 9, posted at 07.07.15 10:03:51 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 9) : Heyneke came over well on Boots and All the other night….he is an intersting fellow. Had a change of heart on Brussow which I find heartening, but then proceeds to being back M Steyn! I also feel an over reliance on crocked experience. For the life of me I cannot see a Bok team consisting of starters like FDP, JDV, Matfield, M Steyn, J Fourie et al getting anywhere even close to winning the WC…in fact if we go past the quarters with those old men I would consider it something of a miracle.

  • Comment 10, posted at 07.07.15 10:20:48 by grant10 Reply

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  • …and so the news broke

  • Comment 11, posted at 07.07.15 10:22:43 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @grant10 (Comment 10) : Yeah, I’d also be surprised if the Boks make it to the semi’s.

    I’ll always back them, and hope for a win every time they play…but I won’t be getting my blood pressure to far up if we lose.

  • Comment 12, posted at 07.07.15 10:24:51 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Stank vir dank.

  • Comment 13, posted at 07.07.15 10:27:02 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 11) : …now for the most exciting combination to never play together. :twisted:

  • Comment 14, posted at 07.07.15 10:28:25 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Cape Town – Springbok lock Pieter-Steph du Toit has confirmed his departure from the Sharks at the end of his contract, which expires in October 2015.
    Having made his debut for the Sharks in 2012, du Toit with his strong physicality and presence has become an influential player for the franchise with strong performances that earned him Springbok colours in 2013.
    Commenting on his departure, Sharks CEO John Smit said: “We are terribly disappointed to lose a player of the calibre of Pieter-Steph du Toit. Despite our best efforts to keep him in the province, he has chosen to move on.
    “He was scouted and signed by the franchise whilst still in school and ever since his arrival in Durban, he has emerged as a stand-out performer. Sadly, he suffered two serious injuries, which saw his 2014 and 2015 seasons being curtailed prematurely.
    “Our medical team has invested immense time and effort into Pieter-Steph’s rehabilitation and recovery process and we are saddened to lose him, but I guess we cannot hold the player back if he has made up his mind.”
    Pieter–Steph thanked the Sharks for the unconditional support the province has always given him during times of fitness and especially injury.
    “This was the hardest decision of my life. The Sharks have always been good to me and if it was not for what the province has done for me I would never have been able to achieve from rugby what I have to date. For this, I will be forever grateful. My decision is one that has a specific focus now already for my life after rugby and also my family. Thank you to every Sharks employee and fan for the privilege I have had to be part of your family. All of you will always remain dear to me.”
    “On behalf of the Sharks, I would like to take this opportunity to thank Pieter-Steph for his contribution to Sharks rugby and wish him the very best in his playing career moving forward,” concluded Smit.

  • Comment 15, posted at 07.07.15 10:36:39 by grant10 Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 14) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 16, posted at 07.07.15 10:37:40 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @grant10 (Comment 15) : Still no official confirmation that he has signed with the WP yet.

  • Comment 17, posted at 07.07.15 10:38:13 by grant10 Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 14) : This is just shit. After all he said about wanting to stay loyal bla bla.. thanks Steph. Cheers on that one.

  • Comment 18, posted at 07.07.15 10:38:15 by Another Nick Reply

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  • @Another Nick (Comment 18) : He clearly felt like a dog for saying that :twisted:

  • Comment 19, posted at 07.07.15 10:39:32 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 12) : Sadly feel the same.

  • Comment 20, posted at 07.07.15 10:40:25 by grant10 Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 19) : :lol: Touche. But you know what, like Rob said, no player should wear the jersey if they don’t want to. You don’t want us, we don’t want you. #dankiebaai

  • Comment 21, posted at 07.07.15 10:42:35 by Another Nick Reply

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  • Disgraceful, well good bye then, don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

  • Comment 22, posted at 07.07.15 10:43:47 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @grant10 (Comment 15) : And that is why investing in the youth coming through is very risky business. The first chance at another offer and they gone. Welcome to professional sport.

  • Comment 23, posted at 07.07.15 10:44:06 by SheldonK Reply

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  • At least we will have some saving left on the medial aid bills. :twisted:

  • Comment 24, posted at 07.07.15 10:46:12 by Rvw Reply

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  • There really is no loyalty anymore. nothing. yes yes professionalism and short career etc. etc but seriously fuck that guy.

  • Comment 25, posted at 07.07.15 10:49:10 by Dryden Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 23) : The problem with signing these young Stellenboch/ Paarl / Westen Cape country boys is plain to see….those guys grow up in a very rugby specific environment. If you have ever been to a Paarl Gym / Paarl Boys annual match you will understand what I mean….25000 spectators…its an intense way of life for them….they miss it badly…

    I would be careful when contracting them, look at 4 years maybe as opposed to 2….or with option to renew…or else its high risk…Jean Luc Du Plessis another case in point…

  • Comment 26, posted at 07.07.15 10:59:24 by grant10 Reply

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  • There are some big upsides here. Lots of extra cash. One less yes-man in our system. Province now have both the most injury prone fwds on their books. If Smit really wanted him he wouldve kept him

  • Comment 27, posted at 07.07.15 11:11:30 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @grant10 (Comment 26) : Yeh fully get what you mean. But its not just them. Its young guys coming through these days. They want instant success and to be number 1 so will up and go as they please. Gone are the days where a team is groomed from u19 to Super rugby level. Unions need to start being clever and start putting stricter clauses in contracts or like the Sharks they will fork out millions on medical only for the guy to say shot, cheers , see you around

  • Comment 28, posted at 07.07.15 11:16:10 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 28) : …which is probably why Ackerman is having success with his group of unwanted misfits – no egos to contend with, as they each know that they are nothing without the team.

  • Comment 29, posted at 07.07.15 11:19:15 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 28) : very true…

  • Comment 30, posted at 07.07.15 11:29:32 by grant10 Reply

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  • PSDT HAS LEFT THE SHARKS :cry:

  • Comment 31, posted at 07.07.15 11:32:58 by StevieS Reply
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  • Sorry to see him go, he’s going to be big if he stay injury free for any decent length of time…but we all pretty much knew this was coming and this is just the final confirmation. So cheers and good luck to you PSDT but no use crying over spilt milk, whats done is done, time to move on and focus on the Sharks and the road ahead.

  • Comment 32, posted at 07.07.15 11:33:54 by SharkED Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 23) : The same argument holds for experienced players too money is money. Ask Bismarck bakkies etc. The argument doesn’t hold. The only trick I can see is nr 1 don’t get the team in the position of absolute dependence by ensuring you have depth per position and giving each player enough airtime at the position. Secondly breed an environment stable and controlled enough so they are comfortable to stay. More than that you can’t do. Times change people change. Control what you can.

  • Comment 33, posted at 07.07.15 11:34:12 by coolfusion Reply

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  • It’d sad. But he is only one player a short while from now we will all be discussing the next best thing at lock and he will be forgotten. Players come and go coaches come and go. The union stays..

  • Comment 34, posted at 07.07.15 11:36:16 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 33) : You can’t put Bismarck in the same catogory as PSdT. Bismarck stayed for 10 years, and I am very sure in that time he got some very good offers from other unions.He never played in Japan over December and then came back after the seasson has started. I don’t think he ever would have left to play for another union in SA. Through all his mistakes (red cards,etc), he was always loyal to the Sharks

  • Comment 35, posted at 07.07.15 11:40:30 by HeinF Reply

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  • I agree, but still sad to see him go as he was one of my favourites.

  • Comment 36, posted at 07.07.15 11:40:47 by StevieS Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 33) : You are right, my point was just that youngstrs are no longer happy to just play behind a Bok etc. Not for 1min saying that the established guys are any more loyal. Money and game time are the drawcards. If u cant pay and dont rotate your squad then you will end up with guys coming and going. Central contracting in NZ seemed to be a solution but even now times are changing there and guys chasing opportunities elsewere.

  • Comment 37, posted at 07.07.15 11:43:47 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 34) : It’s less about losing the player, and more about the disrespect and lack of loyalty shown.

  • Comment 38, posted at 07.07.15 11:49:21 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 37) : I do think the D.O.R. will now have a very important role towards long term sustainability of a union then. Gary must be removed from coaching ASAP cause he has to focus on contracts feeding systems and development. How would central contracting work in SA? One thing I think kiwis have over us is that the players will fight tooth and nail to wear the black jersey, maybe even forego a lucrative contract if that’s what it takes. I doubt anyone feels that way about any union in SA including bok selection.

  • Comment 39, posted at 07.07.15 11:56:07 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @HeinF (Comment 35) : Point being that even veterans can be lured away by money not just youngsters. No one was comparing him to psdt the statement was this is what happens when you promote youngsters they leave you for better pastures, I said so do older guys.

  • Comment 40, posted at 07.07.15 11:59:19 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 39) : top post…..there is talk about Smal doing the superrugby coaching here in CT….i say no way! Do your designated DOR role!

  • Comment 41, posted at 07.07.15 11:59:26 by grant10 Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 39) : A DOR has to create an attractive atmosphere in order to lure a player and retain a player. The core points are to attract, retain and motivate players. That will be done through the training/rehab environment as well as the on field game plan and upskilling of players. I dont think central contracting will work in SA- what would work is privatising teams- but will never happen as it means Union CEO’s would lose control and they would have to vote for it so ya not gonna happen. Without privatisation there is no big money. You say the lure of the Black jersey keeps guys in NZ- just wait 5years…it will no longer be the case trust me, its already happening. No Union in SA will ever keep all the top players it wants, just wont happen Best bet is to try create an environment where most of your top guys want to stay and believe they will flourish AND have prolonged careers.

  • Comment 42, posted at 07.07.15 12:12:52 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 39) : Why would our players fight tooth and nail for the Bok jersey, it’s clear that the national coach won’t reward their efforts because he is hell bent on sticking to his old age home players.

  • Comment 43, posted at 07.07.15 12:27:52 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @grant10 (Comment 26) : Eish, whenever I think of sport and Stellenbosch my mind wonders back to that upstanding chap (a lawyer I think) that cheated to finish in the top 10 of the Comrades. :twisted:

  • Comment 44, posted at 07.07.15 12:28:57 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @grant10 (Comment 41) : If he does it would mean that they cant get the coach they want or think that is the right one to take them forward. As a Sharks supporter I would be very wary of a team that is coached by Smal.

  • Comment 45, posted at 07.07.15 12:31:15 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 43) : Which National coach has picked the fresh new faces on the block over older established guys? I dont think many if any. Changing coach wont change that fact

  • Comment 46, posted at 07.07.15 12:41:55 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 46) : I don’t care much for age…I’m talking about in-form players, guys deserving of selection because of what they did on the field of play this year, not 5 years ago.

  • Comment 47, posted at 07.07.15 13:51:54 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 47) : Yes and fair enough. My point is which SA coach has done that ever? All coaches have their favourites they stick with throughout their tenure

  • Comment 48, posted at 07.07.15 13:58:22 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 48) : 2007 would be the closest to my mind – a fair few talented in-form players got to play for the Boks…off the top of my head: JP and Frans Steyn (I remember Steyn playing the EOYT in 2006).

  • Comment 49, posted at 07.07.15 14:05:17 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 45) : Yes, I am not knocking Smals credentials as a HC….but you cant be a slave to 2 masters….and it clearly did not work when Alister Coetsee tried to do both roles…..

  • Comment 50, posted at 07.07.15 14:11:08 by grant10 Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 48) : That’s the problem. Jake White had his favourites and now Heyneke wants the exact same favourites. “What worked for Jake will surely work for me.” :roll:

  • Comment 51, posted at 07.07.15 14:13:50 by Ben Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 49) : Lets not forget Steyn wasnt taken to the 2007 RWC as a number 1 choice. he was a fringe squad player until Devilliers got injured. The majority of that 2007 side were the same side that had been together since 2004 when White took over.

  • Comment 52, posted at 07.07.15 14:14:47 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 51) : The same problem will be with the next guy and next guy and so on. Its a trait of every coach. He picks the guys he has faith in and sticks by them. And i can understand why.

  • Comment 53, posted at 07.07.15 14:16:18 by SheldonK Reply

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  • “Front Row Grunt [email protected] 17s17 seconds ago

    Lambie with a big knock to his right eye. Off to hospital it seems”

    Great…

  • Comment 54, posted at 07.07.15 15:36:08 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Sharks really know their timing in announcing departures and re-signings.

    Some 15 first choice guys re-signed….and then the 8 new signings.

  • Comment 55, posted at 07.07.15 15:39:59 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Seth101 (Comment 54) : The timing of our SA players lately is impeccable

  • Comment 56, posted at 07.07.15 15:43:38 by SheldonK Reply

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  • See Mvovo and Beast have both re-signed… Was that known?

  • Comment 57, posted at 07.07.15 17:36:50 by JR Reply

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  • Good luck, men!

  • Comment 58, posted at 07.07.15 23:16:19 by pastorshark Reply
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