Richard Ferguson

Boks throw it away


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Original Content, The Rugby Championship, Wallabies on 20 Jul 2015 at 07:27
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The Springboks went down 20 – 24 to Australia in Brisbane on Saturday morning, after earlier being in a commanding 20 – 7 lead, with the timing of certain substitutions costing the Boks.

Before analyzing the match, can I just mention that I admire the Australians for how they approached the game in those closing minutes, it must have taken some serious balls to take a line-out instead of having a second go at leveling the match with a penalty attempt.

The positives to come from this match are just as important as touching on the negatives, which there are a few of. But lets have a look. The Boks actually played great rugby for the first 60 minutes in the match. The scrum was absolutely dominant, and the best part was that the scrum remained dominant after the Sharks front row left the field. Malherbe was bent once or twice, but they were dominant for the majority of the scrums. On the point of the scrums, wasn’t it great to see the scrum take on the first set, instead of collapsing multiple times and wasting minutes of the match?

The loose trio, although questioned and doubted before the start, worked well in tandem with Bismarck du Plessis. Effectively, the Boks had four open-siders on the field of play, and it showed in the amount of turnover ball they won. Bismarck, I feel, had his best game of the year so far, and we can only hope he continues in the same vein. Brother Jannie also looked to have a point to prove and was seriously pumped after a few of the dominant scrums – some fire in the eyes is something we have not seen from Jannie in ages.

The talk of the match though was Lood de Jager, who replaced Victor Matfield early in the match. His loose play was brilliant, putting in tackle after tackle, so much so that even the mustard-yellow-biased-Aussie commentators sat up and took note. His work rate put into perspective exactly how much a lock should be doing around the field, contrary to what we might have seen from our captain. The negative in this regard was the fact that the Boks had two 4-locks on the field, and as a result, the lineout did fail.

This brings me to an interesting point. I have always been a great believer in that a player should be able to do his primary task first, before excelling at other things. With this in mind, Lood should lose a fair few points for not being able to continue the work done by Matfield in the lineouts. The Boks seem to have a problem in this regard should Matfield be seriously injured, as there seems to be a distinct lack of other world class 5-locks.

The loose trio, as mentioned earlier, performed really well, and it was a great relief to hear that Marcell Coetzee’s injury was nothing other than a lammie. Looking at the backline, there were fewer shining lights. Ruan Pienaar played like Ruan Pienaar, controlling the game to a certain extent without making any mistakes, but doing it slowly enough to have you screaming at the television screen while the ball lies waiting to be played at the back of the ruck. That said, Cobus Reinach did nothing off the bench to suggest he should start ahead of Pienaar.

Pollard seemed to have found his missing kicking shoe, even though he still missed a penalty, but that happens. It was his general play though, for which he is more renowned, that looked off. He dropped a sitter early in the game that could have had the Boks over for their first try in the match, and he just looked a rusty, almost as if he hadn’t played in a while. Lambie did make an appearance in the second half, but this was during the Australian dominant patch of play, and he literally had no ball to play with. It will be interesting to see who Meyer goes with for the match against the All Blacks.

For all his shortcomings, Meyer looks to have hit the nail on the head with his selection of Kriel at centre. His inside partner had very little ball to express himself with, but Kriel was able to make space out of nothing and proved to be a hard running back that always got the team over the advantage line, something the Boks have missed in recent years.

As for the back three – disappointing is a word that comes to mind. The wings did very little to show that they should be selected for the next match, but I suppose their selection is a given. The man who might be without a spot though is Willie le Roux, after having such a brilliant game against the World XV, had an absolute shocker this weekend. His kicking from hand was disgraceful, the decision making surrounding his kicks from hand was poor as well. All in all, not a great day at the office for the newly recruited Shark.

The replacement not mentioned somewhere above made little impact as a result of coming onto the field of play while the Boks were under pressure. Reinach, Lambie and Mvovo had very little to do other than defend, Oupa Mohoje was nowhere near as effective as the starting loose trio, and this is an area where Meyer might want to focus on, given that all the momentum was lost when the changes were made.

I understand that there is a bigger picture, that Meyer wanted to see how his bench front row worked against an Aussie pack so as to have an idea of who to pick come the World Cup, but surely a win against Australia in Australia will give the Boks the type of confidence to go out and beat them in the World Cup later this year. As mentioned, Bismarck was having his best game in a very long time, why replace him for Adriaan Strauss, a player who has been in the setup for years and who Meyer should already know will be in the World Cup squad. Those little shifts in momentum, coupled with the fact the Boks tried to defend their lead instead of just playing the game that got them in such a dominant position, is what ultimately cost them.

Hopefully this will be a lesson learnt for all concerned and that going forward, the Boks will be able to finish a game off and not lose it with 84 minutes on the clock.



139 Comments

  • Maybe a bit harsh on Habana, he did have a hand in both the Bok tries.

  • Comment 1, posted at 20.07.15 08:07:40 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I’m nowhere near as disappointed about the result as many of my mates and many on here. The Boks showed so much that was good that I actually think it augers well for the world cup! I think that, if the first priority was winning this game, Meyer would never have made all the changes he did. I think there were just a few mistakes in the last 20 that cost us (e.g. Pollard missing touch with that penalty). We’re almost there…

  • Comment 2, posted at 20.07.15 08:16:42 by pastorshark Reply
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  • I think you are being very harsh on Pienaar, Rob. I thought he was far, far sharper than he was last year. There was the odd moment when the slowness you talk about was there, but in general he was quick, he put in good passes and good kicks. I was very happy with his game. That was also the general consensus among the biggest Pienaar critics in my family around the braai fire that night! :lol:

  • Comment 3, posted at 20.07.15 08:19:07 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Pollard made a lot of mistakes and I was quite dismayed to see HM saying after the game that Pollard was very good! He was often poor, sometimes ok and rarely very good. Let’s see what happens at flyhalf in the next few games.

  • Comment 4, posted at 20.07.15 08:20:46 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 3) : I didn’t write the article :)

  • Comment 5, posted at 20.07.15 08:21:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • Kriel was really good. He is a very exciting prospect!

  • Comment 6, posted at 20.07.15 08:21:42 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) : Oops…my bad! This is what happens when it is early in the morning on holiday!!

  • Comment 7, posted at 20.07.15 08:22:29 by pastorshark Reply
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  • The loose trio was excellent before the replacements were made! And Bismarck had a biggie (except for that BLOODY KICK!). Together those four men absolutely bossed the breakdown!

  • Comment 8, posted at 20.07.15 08:24:15 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 3) :

    What you said got me thinking that we could have had Fourie du Preez there and who knows what sort of form he is in. It could well have been worse.

    So yeah, Pienaar still frustrates my with his delayed pass, but I never said he was poor. I said he played like we know Ruan plays – and that may be exactly what we need in England later this year.

  • Comment 9, posted at 20.07.15 08:28:08 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Personally I thought that no name brand prop replacement was on Greyling levels of awful.

  • Comment 10, posted at 20.07.15 08:34:00 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 10) : I tend to agree, Malerbe got folded quite a few times.

  • Comment 11, posted at 20.07.15 08:35:13 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Did the Boks miss the Doep brothers, YES. Will the Sharks miss them…..obviously despite what some of us here think.

  • Comment 12, posted at 20.07.15 08:42:04 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 9) : I still think that he has shown marked improvement from last year in exactly that aspect of his game. He was often very quick behind the ruck, which he never was last year. But I agree with you on FdP. He will not play before the world cup (?) and will be more of a risk than anything else (?)…

  • Comment 13, posted at 20.07.15 08:47:42 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 12) : Agreed big time…

  • Comment 14, posted at 20.07.15 08:48:28 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 10) : Do you mean Malherbe or van der Merwe?

  • Comment 15, posted at 20.07.15 08:48:52 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 12) : Your point? Should we be upset that we didn’t keep them or that they left?

    They coming to the end of their careers and need some retirement cash. Personally I neither think we should be upset with them or us not keeping them.

  • Comment 16, posted at 20.07.15 08:49:33 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 15) : Thank Hanke guy, ot what ever his name was. I have quite literally never heard him. But I have to disagree with Richard in that I thought our replacement scrum all round was pathetic.

  • Comment 17, posted at 20.07.15 08:51:22 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 16) : I think his point was just that we will miss them. I think he his correct in that…

  • Comment 18, posted at 20.07.15 08:51:25 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 18) : O yea definitely, but nothing can be done about it, just something that has to be accepted.

  • Comment 19, posted at 20.07.15 08:52:00 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 17) : Heinke…if I’m not mistaken he has even played for the Boks before on an end of year tour sometime. I agree with you that there was a definite drop in scrum performance when the replacements came on. I was far more disappointed in Malherbe than van der Merwe. Van der Merwe stood steady, Malherbe folded…

  • Comment 20, posted at 20.07.15 08:54:39 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 19) : Agreed…

  • Comment 21, posted at 20.07.15 08:54:58 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 17) : That Heinke used to be the next big thing everyone and his dog called for to prop up the scrum a couple of years ago. He did get 5 Boks caps, but never really did manage to impress at that level.

    And BTW he even got 8 caps for the Sharks in 2006 before he went off to the Lions.

    I was surprised the HM tried him – perhaps he was really doing well for Stade Francais.

  • Comment 22, posted at 20.07.15 08:59:37 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 20) : Malherbe did a great Matt Stevens impression – both the boep and being folded by a friggin Australian prop. I reckon he needs plenty of Currie Cup time to get back into shape.

  • Comment 23, posted at 20.07.15 09:01:10 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • I am worried about Adrian been a while since I have seen him playing like that player that lifted Bissie…. Lineouts only started to fail when he came on.

  • Comment 24, posted at 20.07.15 09:01:12 by YamYam Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 22) : Apparently Heinke has been doing very well in France. I thought he was quite steady on Saturday…

  • Comment 25, posted at 20.07.15 09:09:50 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 23) : Malherbe had one or two very good games at the end of the Super Rugby season…so I was a bit surprised by him folding quite that badly! But you’re right about the boep…it was there for all to see…

  • Comment 26, posted at 20.07.15 09:11:21 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 20) : Yea I knew how to spell it ;-) I made the Greyling comparison because much like him he conceded two penalties (non scrum related) in like 5 minutes.

    @Bokhoring (Comment 22) : In 06 I was 12 years old, and not much of a rugby fan :P .

  • Comment 27, posted at 20.07.15 09:12:17 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @YamYam (Comment 24) : I am also concerned about that…though we did also miss the first two lineouts after Victor had gone off when Bissie was still on. I think the lineout struggles had a lot to do with the locks. But Strauss has struggled in recent times with his general play and scrumming…

  • Comment 28, posted at 20.07.15 09:13:09 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 27) : Fair enough… :lol:

  • Comment 29, posted at 20.07.15 09:14:07 by pastorshark Reply
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  • I also thought Oupa was pretty abysmal. Pretty much my take on the game is that we have a decent starting 15, but God help us if we ever have to use our bench in the world cup.

  • Comment 30, posted at 20.07.15 09:14:52 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 27) : 12 years old and not a rugby fan??? :roll: At least you fixed that problem now.

  • Comment 31, posted at 20.07.15 09:22:39 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 30) : if you use that “q” word on my site again I will ban you outright.

  • Comment 32, posted at 20.07.15 09:24:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 31) : When I say ‘not rugby fan’ I mean not the no lifer who sits on a rugby forum all day everyday that I am now :cool: . I still went to games and stuff, but I didn’t know all the players and that kind of thing. Youthful ignorance.

  • Comment 33, posted at 20.07.15 09:25:14 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 32) : Why? It’s a fundamental part of all South African sport? Ignoring it doesn’t make it less real…. :roll:

  • Comment 34, posted at 20.07.15 09:26:38 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 34) : the rules of this site are quite clear. You’ve been here long enough to know that.

  • Comment 35, posted at 20.07.15 09:28:40 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 35) : Have literally never seen anything about not using that word…

    If you’re referring to.

    “No racism will be tolerated in any form. A racist post will see your posting rights removed. Also, we reserve the right to edit a comment that is deemed even vaguely blasphemous. People are very sensitive about this and we’d rather just avoid the unhappiness altogether. ”

    My comment was by no means intended to be racist. By implementing ‘that’ system in sport you are always going to create doubt when a player of colour doesn’t perform. And I am of the opinion, looking at his performances for the Boks and Cheetahs that he is selected for that reason, he is definitely not the only person. Whether it’s true or not who knows, but by having the system in place they allowing for my doubt.

  • Comment 36, posted at 20.07.15 09:34:26 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 36) : use the word again – or mention race again – and you will be banned. End of this discussion.

  • Comment 37, posted at 20.07.15 09:35:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 36) : You don’t see me doubting Beasts selection, because he is good. I am just not a fan of the ‘ignoring and covering something up will make it go away’ approach, but your site, your rules.

  • Comment 38, posted at 20.07.15 09:36:56 by Seth101 Reply
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  • After the performance of the front row bench will HM be able willing to trust them against the All Blacks or Arg? Would he consider giving them a start? Matfield out so Lood to start…and then bench option? Surely its time to see what other options we have at 15 and wing? Again i raise my point that the bench will play a huge role this RWC…do we have the right bench mix?

  • Comment 39, posted at 20.07.15 09:46:59 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 39) :”do we have the right bench mix?” Based on the showing of the bench this weekend, no.

  • Comment 40, posted at 20.07.15 09:54:16 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 40) : So who would you have instead then?

  • Comment 41, posted at 20.07.15 10:06:06 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 39) : I think Koch and Whiteley should certainly be given a go again. I would like to see Franco Mostert getting a chance. I don’t think our wings were so bad. They weren’t really given any chances other than chasing kicks. I would also like to see Lambie getting a start…

  • Comment 42, posted at 20.07.15 10:10:36 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 39) :

    HM said last week that the changes from the World XV game was planned. I wonder what changes he has already planned for this match.

    Honestly I would rather go with Koch again, and I thought Nyakane was better than Malherbe. But both those will have to be on the bench, and hopefully the Sharks front row will be able to stay on the pitch for longer. It’s a problem if you don’t have faith in your bench options.

    As for the second row, would you start Lood and Eben together even though both are more 4-locks? If not, what other option do we really have?

  • Comment 43, posted at 20.07.15 10:11:28 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Its time for some bench time for Koch this weekend. …Henke wasnt so good kast week…its not that the Lions front row boys should’ve been in the mix….its not about how good you are by rep but about taking the chance given and playing out of your socks! Kitshof and Koch a chance as Subs this week.

  • Comment 44, posted at 20.07.15 10:12:15 by Sharkfinn Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 41) : I think it’s less a case of person for person changes, and more a case of our depth quality just not being good enough. This problem should have been solved over the last 4 years with the coach planning out a team, using rotation and finding depth so that when it came to world cup year there wasn’t panic every time a player gets injured because there is no good replacement.

    I watched the New Zealand Maori vs New Zealand Barbarian game, and depth is definitely not a problem for them.

  • Comment 45, posted at 20.07.15 10:13:00 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 43) : I agree that Koch and Nyakane were good. Strauss till no.2 hooker? I think U hav to start Eben and Lood…but then id start Whitely (Coetzee possibly injured so Schalk can start again) to give another lineout option. Bench lock is a problem…mayb worth having a look at Mostert. In terms of 15 and wing…its not that i think they played badly…but do we honestly know who would be next in line in those positions should an injury occur? Yes we can throw names around but who is genuinely the no.2s ?

  • Comment 46, posted at 20.07.15 10:31:04 by SheldonK Reply

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  • I thought de Jagger was magnificent,and it is such a pity we never flashed PSDT copious salary under his nose,what a replacement that would have been.
    The weakest link in the Bok team this week end was Heineken Meyer,and his insecurities,the idiot decision to replace Bismark cost us the game.As he came off Cheika inserted Pocock,and we were hit with a double whammy.
    The second mistake he made was giving the captains armband to Pienaar,if you are going to play Burger then pick him as a leader.Pienaar has about as much leadership in him as Alistar Cook.
    With Mattfield off the pack was leaderless.
    By now we should have finalised our team,I think Meyer is betting the house on Fourie du Preez,Mattfield and heaven help us Jean de Villiers,
    Three players who were old and washed up at the last World Cup

  • Comment 47, posted at 20.07.15 10:32:13 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 47) : “it is such a pity we never flashed PSDT copious salary under his nose”

    We did try – not sure how much was offered, but I’m sure it would have been attractive. Bear in mind he only committed to the cheetahs for one more year, so there could still be a chance.

  • Comment 48, posted at 20.07.15 11:12:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 46) :

    If not Strauss at hooker, then who? I am not happy with either of Scarra Ntudeni or Callie Visagie or anybody in that group. It’s another problem area. Last year this time Strauss was keeping Bissie on the bench, now the only thing keeping Strauss on the bench is the lack of another hooker.

    I would give Eben and Lood a chance to play together now and see if a week’s training can right the wrongs. One of the two will have to step up and make the calls at lineout time. Let’s hope the Mohoje at lock experiment is also a thing of the past.

    I hear what you are saying about the wings. I would try a few others, Mvovo and Hendricks to start a game, but if you think about it, Meyer will always default to Habana and JPP, so why not give them as much time out there to run into form.

    As for Willie – Meyer mentioned in an interview earlier in the year that he was not against the idea of having both Pollard and Lambie on the field, so whether that means one of them will play fullback, or whether he means they will play alongside each other at 10/12 – we will have to see.

    If they do play 10/12, De Allende could always shift one down and Kriel take the fullback jersey – but with our 13 options as thin as they are, I would play Kriel at 13 until the World Cup starts..

  • Comment 49, posted at 20.07.15 11:21:24 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 49) : Yeh fair all on the hookers, id perhaps consider Schalk Brits against Arg…mayb. As for locks…eish…HM needs a serious rethink there as he may need to take more than the allocated locks to the RWC as they are all known for breaking down. Perhaps he needs to think of loosies that can either cover lock or can jump in the lineout as options. As for backline…id love to see Mapoe on the bench…lets see Lambie/Pollard start in same side. Pienaar has done well but lets see what the other 9s standards are like. Im very fearful that HM will back too many ‘injured” guys n his RWC squad and them breaking down could cost us

  • Comment 50, posted at 20.07.15 11:35:26 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 2) : Agree, has to be seen in context of prep for WC

  • Comment 51, posted at 20.07.15 11:58:53 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 4) : I think Meyer referred to the fact that Pollard played with two rookies outside him, which does in a sense add pressure and responsibility on his shoulders. His defence was solid, and he did attack the line well. I think Pollard has been earmarked to do the job, so wrong or right, Meyer is giving him the time to settle. He knows he can fall back on Lambie/Steyn… and he knows exactly what they offer.

  • Comment 52, posted at 20.07.15 12:01:40 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 52) : We will not win the world cup with Pollard at 10. He had an absolute shocker! Missed tackles, kak kicking and poor decision making. He will be great in a few years, but right now hes a flat track bully like Spies. He will destroy any team as long as they have already been destroyed.

  • Comment 53, posted at 20.07.15 12:16:32 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 49) : Craig Burden should be on the bench for Bismark,and with Victor gone,Warren Whitley should not only be the 8,but also the captain.
    Think Teich,

  • Comment 54, posted at 20.07.15 12:47:01 by The hound Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 49) : Strauss has been coasting this whole year, unfortunately there are no alternatives at this stage – of course Burden is an alternative but Meyer wont consider him.

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  • @The hound (Comment 54) :

    Craig has always been a bit iffy on the stuff that matters – getting the lineouts right and in the scrums. Big fan of him, but I doubt he is in the picture at this stage..

  • Comment 56, posted at 20.07.15 13:06:48 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 54) :
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    Here’s a question – Whatever happened to Chilliboy Ralapelle? He must have about 50 Bok caps coming off the bench?

  • Comment 57, posted at 20.07.15 13:07:43 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 57) : not in a good place. Failed a drugs test in France and had his contract terminated.

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  • @robdylan (Comment 58) :

    Oh wow- That’s not the first time his name has come up in a drug related matter.. Interesting to note, thanks Rob..

  • Comment 59, posted at 20.07.15 13:26:24 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 58) : Wasn’t he one of the guys who got caught when a couple boks did, but it turned out to be flu medicine or something? Interesting coincidence.

  • Comment 60, posted at 20.07.15 13:29:40 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 56) :He is still a better bet than Britzs in every single facet of the game,and is very much the modern hooker,like Coles.
    Meyer actually has a cheek selecting Britzs ahead of him.I can understand the selection of Ntubeni and Straus,but if you are going to pick a foreign based player at least pick the best one

  • Comment 61, posted at 20.07.15 13:51:22 by The hound Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 60) : ja…. that time they argued their way out of it (Chilli and Bjorn Basson were the guys caught).

    This second time, it seems there was no arguing.

  • Comment 62, posted at 20.07.15 14:09:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 61) : I agree with you. To me Burden is a must.

    I mean come on…. the establish yourself as starting hooker in the all-star Toulon side, you’ve got to have something.

  • Comment 63, posted at 20.07.15 14:11:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • I was massively annoyed with Willie le Roux towards the end of the game.
    Minute to play and he fields the ball in the Bok half and then just punts it back the Ozzies?
    Just poor decision-making, not to mention a poorly executed kick.

    Not the first time I’ve questioned WlR’s BMT either, sadly.

  • Comment 64, posted at 20.07.15 15:05:54 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 63) :

    He’s not capped, is he?

  • Comment 65, posted at 20.07.15 15:06:43 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Meyer at the start of his tenure mentioned that his first priority was the Boks winning every game they played. He wanted them back at number 1 in the rankings. He actually stated that he wasn’t going to be the kind of coach whose sole focus was winning the World Cup in four year’s time. Sort of feels like he’s now scrambling to at least get a World Cup behind his name before his time is up.

    I used to defend a lot of Meyer’s decisions on this site but I’m struggling to find the motivation to keep doing that this year. My ‘trinity’ of SA rugby coaches have all burnt me in some way in the past two years: Venter, White & Meyer. That’s my sad little story done :grin:

  • Comment 66, posted at 20.07.15 15:06:45 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 62) : I saw his hearing was meant to be in March, but can’t find anything on the outcome, any idea what happened?

    Becomes a lot harder to talk your way out of it when it’s an anabolic steroid :lol: Not exactly something you’re going to take accidentally.

  • Comment 67, posted at 20.07.15 15:08:45 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 64) : He needs to forget that he has the option to kick. Willie’s magic came from running himself out of trouble and creating countering opportunities in the process.

  • Comment 68, posted at 20.07.15 15:10:54 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 65) : nah. Toured, but didn’t get a cap

  • Comment 69, posted at 20.07.15 15:27:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 67) : there was some convoluted defence based on a contaminated B-sample, or something. Gerrie Swart is the lawyer-cum-agent, of course, so no end of wrangling and looking for loopholes.

    I think Toulouse got tired of waiting and just cancelled his contract.

  • Comment 70, posted at 20.07.15 15:41:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 47) : top post

  • Comment 71, posted at 20.07.15 15:46:42 by grant10 Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 64) : WLR is becoming a luxury item….a non neccessity…

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 64) :@grant10 (Comment 72) : Ive nicknamed him Deuce le Roux. The good he does in a game is cancelled out by the not so good he does in the same game

  • Comment 73, posted at 20.07.15 16:06:10 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 73) : Yes….not sure its an acceptable risk at a WC….lately it seems more stupidity than good things….frustrating player. Needs to clean up his act….

  • Comment 74, posted at 20.07.15 16:56:00 by grant10 Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 47) : I thought our pack responded very well to the loss of Matfield. They didn’t look rudderless until Bismarck was replaced…

  • Comment 75, posted at 20.07.15 16:57:47 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 47) : I also think Strauss needed the game time. HM would surely not have replaced Bismarck at that stage if it was the World Cup Knock outs!! You are a bit harsh on HM…

  • Comment 76, posted at 20.07.15 16:59:36 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 52) : I’m not so harsh in evaluating Pollard as some are on here. :mrgreen: But his game management does concern me…and I worry that he can’t learn that in the 3 test matches that remain…but he should definitely be going to the World Cup and should play in certain game plans and not in others!

  • Comment 77, posted at 20.07.15 17:05:17 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 54) : In my humble opinion Whiteley has too little experience at this level to captain the Boks at the World Cup…but that is just my opinion…

  • Comment 78, posted at 20.07.15 17:06:44 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 56) : Yeah, I agree. I think Strauss has to be the guy to back…

  • Comment 79, posted at 20.07.15 17:09:05 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 57) : The drug thing?

  • Comment 80, posted at 20.07.15 17:10:06 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 59) : Ah, I see Rob answered that! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 81, posted at 20.07.15 17:10:58 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 66) : I do think that in the actual world cup year that changes, don’t you think? I’m quite happy with his decision so far this season…

  • Comment 82, posted at 20.07.15 17:16:30 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 69) :

    But then he’s not eligible, is he?

  • Comment 83, posted at 20.07.15 17:19:06 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 68) : I’m happy for Willie to kick then…I’m not happy for him to put in a kak kick like that, though! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 84, posted at 20.07.15 17:19:16 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 73) :

    I just couldnt believe what i was seeing at the end of that game.
    I mean really. Who kicks the ball away with seconds to play?

    Even bigger question – which team is stupid enough to kick on Israel Dagg?
    He took like 23 high balls on Saturday. Thats like one every 3.5 minutes. One guy. And he didnt miss.

  • Comment 85, posted at 20.07.15 17:21:40 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 68) : @grant10 (Comment 72) : @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 73) :

    Reckon Willie could soon find himself playing as a speciality first half player.

  • Comment 86, posted at 20.07.15 17:23:18 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @grant10 (Comment 72) : Wow! Really?!

  • Comment 87, posted at 20.07.15 17:25:04 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 85) : Do you mean Israel Folau?

  • Comment 88, posted at 20.07.15 17:26:43 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 88) :

    I do indeed!!
    Getting my antipodeans in a tangle.

  • Comment 89, posted at 20.07.15 17:35:40 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 87) :

    Would you want Willie there with 2 minutes to play, leading by two points, in the WC final?
    That could be a Ronan o’Gara all over again, with us on the wrong side this time.

  • Comment 90, posted at 20.07.15 17:36:51 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 89) : :mrgreen: The point is valid for both players though!!

  • Comment 91, posted at 20.07.15 17:42:46 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 57) : That roughly amounts to 50mins. of Springbok rugby for Chilli – man he was messed around.

  • Comment 92, posted at 20.07.15 17:44:49 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 90) : The point is absolutely fair…but that is not the same as questioning his place at the World Cup! (You didn’t say that…but grant10 did…) For the record, I would prefer Lambie there with 2 minutes to go leading by 2…

  • Comment 93, posted at 20.07.15 17:46:10 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 93) :

    Completely agreed. HE is a remarkable player, just not in all circumstances.
    Also why i commented that he could find himself a first half player, incapable of dealing with the pressure when it comes down to the business end of the game.

    Would even take Zane for those final two minutes at this point.

    I just couldnt believe my eyes on Saturday.

  • Comment 94, posted at 20.07.15 17:49:50 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • In other news: What a British Open this is turning out to be!!

  • Comment 95, posted at 20.07.15 17:50:08 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 93) :

    Grant10 just want Kolbe there. Or Aplon. Maybe even Bilbo Baggins.

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 94) : Fair comment…

  • Comment 97, posted at 20.07.15 17:50:58 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 96) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 98, posted at 20.07.15 17:51:23 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 95) :

    Got it on above my desk. Come on the Oost!
    He’s in prime position at the moment, but Johnson is playing a screamer in the final round.

  • Comment 99, posted at 20.07.15 17:51:52 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 99) : Amazing round by Johnson…Louis has left a few putts out there, but is hanging in somehow…

  • Comment 100, posted at 20.07.15 17:55:19 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 99) : I smell a playoff in the air!

  • Comment 101, posted at 20.07.15 17:55:45 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 101) :

    We can hope!! Might just be a beeeg payoff too!

  • Comment 102, posted at 20.07.15 18:03:15 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Oost really needs to pull back a shot and get into contention.

  • Comment 103, posted at 20.07.15 18:09:06 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 103) : The misses on the par 5′s will cost him! He parred them while everyone else birdied them!

  • Comment 104, posted at 20.07.15 18:10:43 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 104) :

    Especially annoying as he has a decent drive.

  • Comment 105, posted at 20.07.15 18:15:33 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Louiiiiiiis! Get in there…

  • Comment 106, posted at 20.07.15 18:19:25 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 106) :

    Yeeh hah!!
    Gotta love it. Playing last too.

  • Comment 107, posted at 20.07.15 18:20:55 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Johnson drops one on the 17th!!

  • Comment 108, posted at 20.07.15 18:25:27 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 107) : But Louis has followed every birdie up with a rubbish hole!!

  • Comment 109, posted at 20.07.15 18:27:38 by pastorshark Reply
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  • What the hell is up with this hole Louis? Is that it?!

  • Comment 110, posted at 20.07.15 18:30:31 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Louis drops back again…

  • Comment 111, posted at 20.07.15 18:33:28 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Ai.

  • Comment 112, posted at 20.07.15 18:36:38 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Wow Zach Johnson!! Great putt…target set!!

  • Comment 113, posted at 20.07.15 18:37:39 by pastorshark Reply
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  • This is tight!!

  • Comment 114, posted at 20.07.15 18:52:04 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 82) : I don’t think goal posts should be shifted, especially in a World Cup year.

  • Comment 115, posted at 20.07.15 18:58:25 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 115) : I just think in a world cup year you need to be a bit more pragmatic. I think you set targets for successful seasons…and in a world cup year winning the world cup has to surely be the priority! In a world cup year that is the goal post! So I am perfectly happy if everything is focussed on the world cup at this late stage…

  • Comment 116, posted at 20.07.15 19:10:02 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 93) : Willie can go as a utility….covers wing and 15…..but he is far too loose for me lately. His kicking out of hand is amateurish….right now I would prefer F Steyn, Kitchner or Lambie

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 116) : I’m just seeing a little more panic than pragmatism at the moment. Also, I think the goal posts were already shifting before this year.

  • Comment 118, posted at 20.07.15 19:24:49 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 115) : @pastorshark (Comment 116) : I don’t think in any year, World Cup or otherwise, it should be acceptable to post golf commentary on Sharksworld. I mean, what’s next? The Annual Cornwall Ladies’ Scrapbooking Jamboree…!?

  • Comment 119, posted at 20.07.15 19:32:29 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 119) : Ai Louis… :cry: That’s what I get for posting golf comments here…

  • Comment 120, posted at 20.07.15 19:39:01 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Go the Oost!!!!!

    Playoffs!

  • Comment 121, posted at 20.07.15 19:53:29 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • BMT of note. Birdied the 18th.

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 122) : The cracker though was his par putt at 17…oh my word!

  • Comment 123, posted at 20.07.15 20:05:19 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 122) : 3 perfect shots on 18…drive, pitch, putt…wow!

  • Comment 124, posted at 20.07.15 20:05:59 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 119) : I don’t trust any sport played with a ball that round.

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 125) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 126, posted at 20.07.15 20:11:26 by pastorshark Reply
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  • *sigh*

  • Comment 127, posted at 20.07.15 22:12:02 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 127) : I take it the guy didn’t win the thing?

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 128) : @vanmartin (Comment 128) : He’s a golfer; he’s already lost, result notwithstanding

  • Comment 129, posted at 21.07.15 10:22:40 by Culling Song Reply
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  • So it seems the Boks did their 67 minutes for Mandela. And then nothing for the remaining 13 minutes…

  • Comment 130, posted at 21.07.15 10:43:09 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 129) : Wisdom

    @VinChainSaw (Comment 130) : They owe Madiba another 7 minutes at the very least by my count

  • Comment 131, posted at 21.07.15 10:56:42 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 130) : :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 132, posted at 21.07.15 10:58:53 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • so flip van der Merwe and PSDT added to replace Matfield.

    Surely Schalk will be captian. will he stay at 8 or move to 7 in place of Super Coetzee. they cant risk playing Coetzee – he is our standout loosie and needs to be protected for RWC. The combo of Coetzee, Louw and Schalk worked actually very well.

    Man, I would have loved to see Planet being called up – surely he could have played same role as Johan Muller did in 2007

  • Comment 133, posted at 21.07.15 12:12:14 by Kabouter Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 48) : Talking about lood? The guys is a machine. We should really really try very hard to get him. Plus I think he is a little more solid than psdt just need someone like Andrews to mentor him on line outs.

  • Comment 134, posted at 21.07.15 12:13:35 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 134) : ja, big unit. lineout calling suspect but aproper mentor should do the trick

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 130) : I would rather say the second half was the charity bit. When they so sportingly gave ausies the chance to get back in. Nice of them…maybe they will give a world cup away to charity as well….

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  • Any news on Marcell yet?

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 129) : Career earnings = 20 million dollars.

  • Comment 138, posted at 21.07.15 14:18:21 by Ben Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 129) : @Ben (Comment 138) : Can I lose too, please? :)

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